THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF SONY

>Insider Jeff Sneider revealed that Sony initially wanted Andrew Garfield to be the Spider-Man of the Madame Web world. The production studio altered its course after Garfield declined and decided to include Tom Holland's Spider-Man. However, this caused a timeline error as Madame Web was reportedly being set in the '90s, prompting them to reshoot and eliminate any references to Spider-Man and a specific year. Sneider also indicated that the primary reason for the movie's reshoots was to eliminate all '90s references, ensuring alignment with the timelines.

https://gamerant.com/madame-web-movie-spiderman-reshoots-timeline-fix-sony/

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you know there's some braindead execs and writers who are thinking"10 years ago, you know, the 90's"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're not wrong though

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey i have been saying for years i want more shit set in the 90s.
      the fact that we're getting it and it SUCKS is beside the point.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sony shoving a Spider-Man spin-off through production without even having a concrete idea of how, even if, it'll connect to one of the existing films? Unheard of.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    how does sony still have a film division

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost entirely Spiderman, aside from inside out and the Jumanji movies they haven't had anything else enter the top 10 for a decade.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        inside out is by pixar tho also spiderman carrying sony outside of gaming has got to be the most random thing ever

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus Christ it's even worse than I thought. What's weirder is that Jumanji is the only other pillar they have. Those are the two most random ip's to keep you afloat.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >spiderman carrying sony outside of gaming has got to be the most random thing ever
            It's pretty fascinating to watch a company scrape the bottom of the barrel just to not lose the Spider-Man rights. I was surprised they cancelled El Muerto, I figured they'd be desperate enough to keep going with that.

            i mean theyre trying to diversify their movie output w video game adaptations but considering uncharted & the rest of sonys recent live action films..

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Now that you mention it the playstation has always been successful while having the least noteworthy ip's in the medium. Like aside from god of war and ratchet they kill everything off each generation.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                xbox literally only has halo & a racing game but yeah sonys modern gaming output has pretty much just been remaking the last of us a billion times and its a shame too cuz sony actually has rly great ips

                And now they're adapting games from their competitiors with the Zelda movie. The frick's goin on over there

                imagine if nintendo makes a film studio but cant use zelda cuz sony has the film rights

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                most sony exclusives are japan only

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That hasn't been the case for a very long tine.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              And now they're adapting games from their competitiors with the Zelda movie. The frick's goin on over there

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought that was universal.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sony's fronting the cash for Zelda. Universal still has production rights.

                xbox literally only has halo & a racing game but yeah sonys modern gaming output has pretty much just been remaking the last of us a billion times and its a shame too cuz sony actually has rly great ips
                [...]
                imagine if nintendo makes a film studio but cant use zelda cuz sony has the film rights

                >xbox literally only has halo & a racing game

                Palworld too.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                no way palworld is actually owned by microsoft

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                no way palworld is actually owned by microsoft

                They don't. Pocket Pair is indie

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >spiderman carrying sony outside of gaming has got to be the most random thing ever
          It's pretty fascinating to watch a company scrape the bottom of the barrel just to not lose the Spider-Man rights. I was surprised they cancelled El Muerto, I figured they'd be desperate enough to keep going with that.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >inside out

        inside out is by pixar tho also spiderman carrying sony outside of gaming has got to be the most random thing ever

        Didn't that shit come out almost ten fricking years ago
        it wasn't even that good

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Venom x jumanji crossover when

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their bad movies don't cause them too lose as much money as their successful movies. They've been a mess for decades.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        but surely their bad movies cant make that much right? like morbius bombed

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how does sony

      Almost entirely Spiderman, aside from inside out and the Jumanji movies they haven't had anything else enter the top 10 for a decade.

      >Almost entirely

      inside out is by pixar tho also spiderman carrying sony outside of gaming has got to be the most random thing ever

      >the most random thing ever

      Jesus Christ it's even worse than I thought. What's weirder is that Jumanji is the only other pillar they have. Those are the two most random ip's to keep you afloat.

      >even worse than I thought.

      Their bad movies don't cause them too lose as much money as their successful movies. They've been a mess for decades.

      >They've been a mess for decades.

      I love how the special needs rejects here can't spend 5 seconds on a simple browser search.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        While the last decade IS a lot of Spider-Man, similar things are true of the other studios. The third column represents market share....

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you go back just the past 15-18 years, it's Fox that has really shit the bed - especially since it's been a steep downhill trend since 2015, or well before the House of Mouse bought them, and Paramount which hasn't been able to even keep in the 10% range, save for the Top Gun outlier.

          Everyone is bunched together for market share, except for about 4-5 years between 2014-2020, before lockdown, that Disney/Buena Vista had huge paydays but even then, they barely made it above 25% market share a few of those years, so 10-12, even 15% is the norm for the major studios, so Sony/Columbia has been at norm for the past two decades.

          NOW - do they have brain dead ass hats in their C-Suites? Sure, the LEGIT leaked emails more than proved that.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sony is barely above Universal who made almost the same amount of money with less movies
        Ouch.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The horrifying thing is that Sony is better off now than it was in the mid/late 2010s

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Venom made a billion dollars

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony Pictures Entertainment is a prime example of falling upward. The more they frick up royally the more successful they seem to get.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK OFF

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least that means we might get awkward Brie hitting on Sydney Sweeney?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Context?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The context is it's an edit.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank god. civil war was dumb enough that it could be real.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you wanted to bump the thread off page 10 because you couldn'taccept people don'tcare about this thread. Pathetic.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here, let me bump it again from page 10 just for you.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >let's keep making Spider-Man movies without Spider-Man!
    >*SNOOOOOOOORT SNORT SNORT*
    >It's gonna work sooner or later!
    >*SNOOOOOOOORT*
    >Coke slave! Bring me another cocaine bucket, this one is empty!

    Cocaine = instant bad idea powder.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Venom made money, Venom 2 did well considering it was released during a Covid year.

      They're making the others on a much lower budget, so they're not in the same situation as the MCU where they practically need to make a billion just to break even. That's going to be a trend Hollywood as a whole is going to have to start following, and just scale down the budgets of movies.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cocaine is not a drug that makes you more rational.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MCU where they practically need to make a billion just to break even.

        You can't honestly believe this.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are anons on this site that have claimed the MCU has been dead since the first Avengers movie.

          The funniest part was when Black Panther came out and the anons kept claiming it was a flop even as it kept making shit tons of money.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Disney put so much money into the Marvel movies that they have to be hugely successful to make a profit. Had these films had standard budgets, they could’ve gotten by with small successes for several of them.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just make a Venom verse?
    Make it a little darker, edgier. If the movies are not explicitly set in the 90s, they can still feel like the 90s New Line Cinema era. There's nostalgia for that Blade/Spawn/The Crow era of capeshit.

    A Venom movie.
    Morbius in a Venom sequel.
    Man Wolf in a Venom sequel. (Just put the Spider Monster characters in Venom)
    Sydney Sweeney in a sexy Black Cat movie.
    Silver Sable in a sexy Black Cat sequel.
    A sexy noir ish Jessica Drew Spider Woman movie (Madame Web can still be the clairvoyant character)
    A Sinister Six heist movie
    Kraven as an ongoing antagonist across the movies.
    Carnage as the big bad Thanos and Maximum Carnage is their endgame.

    Call it the "Dark Web" Universe.

    If you can actually nab Andrew Garfield, have the twist be that he's in his 30s, wears the Black Suit, is married to MJ. Evoke that 80s/90s MacFarlane era.

    Is it schlocky? Yeah. So? People like schlock as long as it's fun. It's just capeshit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it schlocky? Yeah. So? People like schlock as long as it's fun. It's just capeshit.
      Exactly. Nothing wrong with making popcorn entertainment for the masses.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sydney Sweeney in a sexy Black Cat movie.
      Modern day Halle Berry Catwoman

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does a studio so completely lack self-awareness that they keep pumping out shit, when it's obvious they should have just fired everyone above the line and started from scratch?

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    how do these people have jobs? I don't understand. It's not hard to know what the story is before you start shooting. Get a guy to write you a script. Get garfield's answer before the script is written. Then you can incorporate Tom Holland if you want. I'm honestly impressed by the incompetence.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because thats not how franchise movies get made now, even marvel is shooting on a weekly basis, and thats why most of it is awful greenscreen.
      What/where/when scenes take place change constantly, which is also why reshoots are constantly happening, theres an entire rooms full of producers that contractually have to be heard and whoever is on assembly has to desperately stick all these lego pieces together to construct a half decent movie that test audiences (read: morons) think is good.
      Its a nightmare.
      Source: worked vfx on a couple marvel projects and have plenty of friends that stayed in the field.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good for Garfield. He wants no part of that shit movie

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Reviving a dead spin off idea made after the conclusion of Spiderman 3
    Its amazing how Snoy can easily hire writers to destroy the MShitU with one character and yet they keep fricking up.

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