The age of capeshit is beginning to end. Do you see this as a good thing or a bad thing?
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The age of capeshit is beginning to end. Do you see this as a good thing or a bad thing?
*bowling 4 soup 1985 anime music video starts playing*
it’s still a nostalgia-bait sequel
Even if cape stuff is demonstrably on the decline it still just encourages more of one of the only other kinds of big movies that still get made, not exactly a seismic shift
Give it time. Top Gun, while its story is a little one note has some pretty amazing practical stunts, effects and some solid acting. It's just Tom doing what he does best, making batshit insane kino with his love of American propaganda. It's very overambitious but commendable for trying something that isn't capeshit. Hopefully more films like this follow the trend of not needing superheroes anymore as we progress further into the 2020s.
Top Gun Maverick isn't nostalgia-bait at all. It barely references the original movie and you can watch it by itself just fine. Compare this to No Way Home, where you'll be completely lost if you've never seen the previous Spider-Man films, causing the quality of the film to fall apart.
Anon please this cope is just embarrassing
Tons of nostalgia bait sequels end up being inconsequential. Remember the Independence Day sequel? The MIB reboot?
My zoomer gf liked it and she's never seen top gun
Nothing ever ends, Adrian
I mean, according to the second law of thermodynamics, everything will end, and the universe will be a cold, empty void.
Yo, Dr. Manhattan didn't go to middle school, but the government let him be a scientician? Moore's a hack.
>capeshit OUT
>planeshit IN
Except it's not, moron. Unless Tom Crusie can put out a bunch of movies a year like Maverick, most years are still gonna be filled with MCU/DC movies near the top of the charts. Maverick is also sort of an anomaly for Cruise too. His movies usually never make this much. This is one big military propaganda.
Do capeshitgays think capeshit will be the first ever fad that doesn't die? Do they really think humans will care about this shit 25 years from now? Zoomers already stopped caring. It's mostly just cringe millennial shit now. You're gonna be like your grandparents in 50 years, obsessed with a genre of movies people don't care about anymore like spaghetti westerns.
People who think capeshit is eternal have no eye for how culture changes with time.
No, moron, it's obviously going to end. But it's not ending yet.
The only capeshit film released this year that failed to turn a profit was Morbius. Some of these films might be performing less than expected COMPARED TO OTHER CAPE FILMS, but they're still making money and lots of it.
The well hasn't run dry yet, and the industry isn't going to stop drawing from it just because it might run dry some day.
The well is running dry now. If you told me the Dr Strange Multiverse if Madness movie with the Illuminati directed by Sam Raimi would make less than Aquaman and Joker I'd call you crazy, but here we are.
What if someone had told you Dr Strange 2 would make more money than a Justice Film and The Batman?
Well yeah the MCU is supposed to be king right now, dumbass. I certainly didn't think it would be beat by a Tom Cruise movie where he flies planes.
>The well hasn't run dry yet, and the industry isn't going to stop drawing from it just because it might run dry some day.
aquaman and joker are both more popular than dr strange, normies dont give a flying frick who Sam Raimi is
>People who think capeshit is eternal have no eye for how culture changes with time.
Yep. Look at the fads that exist across the decades of HollyJew.
>50s - atomic monsters, aliens, sci-fi B movies
>60s - a split between the generations, a lot of the older content for adults and going into the money that younger adults had
>70s - embracing the 60s with drug and counterculture movies
>80s - open to newer IPs but a lot of the popular movies were throwbacks to concepts from radio dramas of the 30s to 40s
>90s - nostalgia for those that grew up in the 70s to 80s.
>00s - a split between the 80s and 90s with new changes due to how movies were heavily using CGI
>10s - capeshit
>10s - capeshit
Raimi Spider-Man was 2002
Iron Man was 2008
TDK Trilogy started 2005
Also a bunch of X-men movies and a fair number of other smaller properties...... actually i wonder if the 2000's had more cap movies than the 2010's
No, it'll probably decline greatly eventually, but at the same, we've never seen anything like the MCU. It's what every company dreams of. Basically a universe where you can tell all sorts of fantasy and sci fi stories forever and people are just hooked and many can't get out because of the investment they've put into all of it.
Unless somebody starts making a bunch of interesting movies in those genres, then people will just stick with the MCU for their fill. And here's the thing, rarely is there ever any big hits in those genres anymore. Very rare to see a big sci-fi hit that isn't very capeshittey like Jurassic Park. Fantasy has yet to replicate anything like LOTR on the big screen.
People are getting tired of Marvelshit but they are eager for more capekino.
God, you aren't about to make promises about Teh Rock vs Knock-off Avengers are you?
homie pls.
>Zoomers already stopped caring
Zoomers can't even get into it. Every year they have 6 shows and 4 films and every year it just becomes more and more daunting
homie, Zoomers are gay. Who gives a frick about them?
Young people are needed to stay interested in the MCU because you are getting old and will eventually die. If the average MCU fan keeps getting older it's doomed to die.
Pokemon has stayed relevant for 25 years only because it still manages to pull in kid audiences. MCU has a millennial problem.
What makes you think young people arent interested? Just because top gun is a more successful movie?
You will die too.
This does not address in any way the fact that Zoomers are all gay, and therefore why give a frick.
>Do capeshitgays think capeshit will be the first ever fad that doesn't die?
Pokemon hasn't done poorly since Gen 6.
Capeshit is cinema, the entire thing would have to die for capeshit to die
Cope. I watch new movies all the time and I don't watch capeshit at all. You'd have to be a moronic Cinemaphile manchild to think even a tenth of all new movies are capeshit.
Most people on here don't watch movies made outside of Hollywood for $200 million.
Ok? Most of the theatre going audience watch Marvel movies
No, they watch Top Gun movies.
Yeah the Marvel audience also watched Top Gun
Clearly not since Top Gun is making more.
🙂
Spider-Man
>10 years from now when Top Gun 5 comes out and makes $2bn, this anon will be coping about Endgame beating it
kek
Looks like the same audience to me, if it wasn't Top Gun would have made no money
Then why did Top Gun beat DS2 if they have the same audience, anon?
Stop acting obtuse. I'm not even sure why this matters so much to you. Just take the win before you rope yourself, you clearly need it
Hard cope. Avengers was bigger then the moon landing, deal with it already.
And Top Gun is bigger than the MCU now. What next?
Your mom's ass is bigger than both combined.
>Avengers was bigger then the moon landing
>was
Thanks for proving our point.
A good thing.
We'll get a couple of years with some good movies again before studios start hyper focusing on a new trend.
COVID government/social regulations/environment literally make any box office money estimations bullshit because you've got a 50/50 of anyone going outside to watch movies. Stop worrying that this actually reflects anything or will stay the norm.
COVID. IS. OVER. STOP. USING. THIS. COPE. NO. ONE. CARES. ABOUT. COVID. ANYMORE.
covid shit is still on going, we have barely felt the ramifications of the event yet and it seems many governments want it to come back (but average person doesn't give a shit of it anymore)
Covid is literally over you coping Disney shill. We don't even have masks on planes anymore. Theaters are wide open for everyone. People just aren't as excited for these movies anymore.
>Covid is literally over
Keep telling yourself that when you get it in a few weeks.
I've probably already had it and didn't even realize it because it's such a non-issue at this point.
>but average person doesn't give a shit of it anymore
You may not give a shit, but supply chain shortages, constant dock problems, missing labor, too much labor, delayed movies/projects, etc. The average person doesn't care, but it is still affecting the world. Fricking summer child, I swear.
Covid isn't what's causing that. Covid is fricking over. It's basically just a seasonal cough now. What you're thinking of is the upcoming recession. If you want to use that as cope then go ahead.
>supply chain shortages, constant dock problems, missing labor, too much labor, delayed movies/projects, etc.
All the governments fault, dimwit.
Look up current footage of American and European big cities on YouTube, anon. Any channel of whatever topic will do. They're all fully open, the people are all maskless and going on with their pre-pandemic lives.
The pandemic is over.
>muh COVID
homie did I just get transported back to 2020?
So you're telling me manchildren breaking quarantine all over the world to watch NWH a fever dream I had
>Covid
Disney shills will be using this cope for years lmaoo.
It's a stupid cope too, as if covid only effects Disney movies
*monkeypox
Isn't that a gay disease? I take it back, Disney gays. That probably did put a dent in the DS2 box office.
Good. Even if all capeshit movies were amazing, they don’t need to be making fifty ‘leven million of them for all of time. Overuse makes any idea tiresome.
It’s a great thing.
>one dumb action CGI-ladden blockbuster that's just retreading an old IP replaces another
I miss when there were mid-budget movies with actually creative premises
>Top Gun
>CGI laden
They used actual planes for interior shots and CGI exterior shots for the dogfights. Wtf are they supposed to do? Fight actual planes and film it, moron?
I mean, that would be crazy! No one could make a film called Top Gun with practical jet effects, that would just defy all reason!!!
Go watch the original top gun, moron. The dogfights sucked because they were practical and filming jets fighting without CG leads to bad shots. There's a reason everyone only remembers the original for the homoerotic scenes. Everyone agrees the new one is much better.
Ok boomer. I don't give a shit.
KEK, clearly you do as you replied to their comment. A person that didn't give a shit would not have replied.
Get a job zoomer.
there was so much CGI though, even the classroom they used was clear CGI on multiple occasions
What's the alternative fricking moron? You need CGI for good dogfights. They aren't going to fight actual fricking planes. That's like crying about capeshit having CGI for magic, something they can't film.
You should cry about Thor 4 having CGI everywhere. They even CGI'd his fricking helmet even though they didn't need to.
Different anon here but I had a conversation over a similar topic with a friend last week. Without the use of CG for shows, you run into the following issues with fight scenes:
>the Toku/Power Ranger situation where cutaways for action scenes are used.
>the CW situation where the footage is filmed in slow motion and sped up for the audience.
>largest movie franchise right now
>can't even afford a fricking helmet
Disney is so hilariously cheap.
The majority of helmets that capes wear are horrible looking. They are meat for 2D perspectives and not 3D environments.
Doesn't excuse the fact that a real helmet could have been made and then quickly discarded.
They can, they just want to cheap out with CG because wardrobe departments are unionized
CGI is much much more expensive even if the costume department is unionised you absolute moron, it's to get the skin tight look of comic helmets
Thor 4 is easily the most visually ugly movie I've seen from the MCU up to this point. Thor Ragnarok looked cheap too.
Right? The CG was so good in the original I honestly didn't think the new one could top it
You haven't watched either. The CG in the new one is part of why it's so much better than the original. Stick to capeshit.
Capeshitters are morons who don't understand CG is good when used properly. They're so used to constant green screen garbage in the MCU that they unconsciously associate CG with low quality.
We won't see that again sadly. While RLM can be laughed at for multiple reasons. I will always agree with their take on the future of theaters after the China Fluke or in general:
>theater releases will be BIG budget films only from studios such as Disney, Sony, etc.
>most content will go straight to streaming platforms
>smaller budget movies will be placed on streaming platforms with little marketing
Add in how Netflix will die before 2030 as the streaming platform collapse will hit and cause the 60+ different services to consolidate into fewer than 20. Anyone that is a fan of good content will not be happy.
I haven't even hit the topic of woke-ism hitting new content such as the flop of Halo or the upcoming Lord of the Rings.
Final top 10 of 2022:
1. Thor Love and Thunder (sequel)
2. Avatar Way of Water (sequel)
3. Black Panther 2 (sequel)
4. Top Gun: Maverick (sequel)
5. Jurassic I don't even give a frick (sequel)
6. The Batman (reboot)
7. Water Gate Bridge (Chinkery)
8. Minions: Rise of Gru (sequel)
9. Black Adam (spin-off)
10. Uncharted (vidya gaem)
>forgot to list DS2 because like everyone else he already forgot it
>Final top 10 of 2022:
>1. Thor Love and Thunder (sequel)
>2. Avatar Way of Water (sequel)
>3. Black Panther 2 (sequel)
>4. Top Gun: Maverick (sequel)
>5. Doctor Strange 2 (sequel)
>6. Jurassic I don't even give a frick (sequel)
>7. The Batman (reboot)
>8. Water Gate Bridge (Chinkery)
>9. Minions: Rise of Gru (sequel)
>10. Black Adam (spin-off)
Fix'd.
Based James Cameron is literally the ONLY hope for capeshit not taking the top 3, and the only outside hope for a capeshit not being #1 (again).
>thinking Thor is actually going to make that much money
> 3. Black Panther 2 (sequel)
Going to be tricky considering the main Black person literally shat himself to death.
They put in some Boseman footage/a homage and advert it right, everyone who saw it in theaters will will see the sequel TWICE, Wakanda-forevering while you chud out about it.
I unironically vomited, kys, get raped by a flock of storks and eat a cum omelette
>1. Thor Love and Thunder (sequel)
That thing comes out in like 2 weeks or something and no one even really knows it's a thing.
Is BP2 even coming out this year? It's basically been dead in the water in terms of production. We usually have full blown set and plot leaks by now.
Scratch that, found this.
Doesn't matter. Thor will rape this boomershit next month.
>forgot about DS2 like everyone else
It probably won't even hit DS2's box office, I can see Thor 4 getting The Batman levels of box office.
I don’t think it’s going to reach that either
moron. Everyone loves Thor and Taika is probably the biggest director in the world right now. It will make Avengers-lvl money easily.
>Taika is probably the biggest director in the world right now
Ragnarok is the only film he’s directed that actually made more than $100M while everything else has been indie films, that hardly qualifies him as the biggest director right now.
Name one director more important than him.
Based James is always the correct answer. Particularly this year.
Feel free to bet against James, I will take that bet.
Lmao no. Cameron is irrelevant boomercore hack and he will get BTFO with his avatarshit by Taika and Thor.
Maybe he was talking about Gunn? kek
JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson
The last Thor movie pulled $850 million, each of them has outgrossed the one before, there's no reason to believe this pattern will break.
The only real question is if Boseman-free BP can equal the last one, and if James can fascinate the world with blue cat people again.
That was when the MCU was more popular. With fatigue setting in, I can see it only making $750k. DS2 was supposed to be huge and only hit $900m.
>With fatigue setting in
Spidey nearly broke 2 billion, Strange 2 made 50% more than Strange 1. You are delusional.
Strange 2 was a big multiverse "event" movie . Strange 1 was just an origin movie. Strange 2 was supposed to hit $1bn.
>Strange 2 was a big multiverse "event" movie
Oh get the frick off pretending Strange 2 was Endgame 1.5.
It was a middlingly popular MCU character chasing another middlingly popular character through some silly dimensions.
Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy are both vastly more popular then Strange or Wanda, and both franchises are in Love and Thunder.
I am absolutely loving this "DS2 was never supposed to be big" cope. Watching MCU shills struggle to defend their flailing franchise is genuinely more entertaining than anything in the MCU right now.
I was forecasting it to be a billion for months. It did not quite make a billion. There it is.
It simply did not have enough MCU star power to be an Avengers movie or Civil War, which had EVERYBODY.
Trotting out billion year old Picard and nobodies does not change that. Maybe a Cruise cameo would have, but I have doubts.
Oh and honestly you are trying comically hard right now.
>Oh and
Follow up post = butthurt
Just admit DS2 was kinda shit and people are kinda getting over capeshit. Your cope is embarrassing.
Are you a complete imbecile?
Strange 2 doesn't have the 300M from China and still hit a Billion
Are you an imbecile? Top Gun doesn't have money from China and still beat DS2.
Imagine thinking posts like these are clever and not just admitting you lost.
>things that never happened
Marvel is God and God cannot die. Period.
If Marvel is God, what does that make Top Gun? Super God?
there there dccuck, one day you might exist too
I'm a Top Chad, MCUck. It's okay, maybe in 30 years people will have nostalgia over the MCU and people will care about it again.
>ima tup chad i- s-swear!
>tup
Hahaha this homie so mad at Cruise he can't even type straight.
Good Lord, man, there's got to be a way you can bait without degrading yourself like this. Have some dignity.
Why have dignity when you can have Disney's boot down your throat?
Marvel is the top of the world and we are in it.
TOP Gun, you mean
Marvel, MCU
... was beat by Top Gun.
>math is hard
$1bn > $950m
And the last one just had a cameo from Hulk, this one has the highly popular Guardians in support, and dubs-man as the villain.
Love and Thunder will easily cross a billion.
Yeah bro just like how doctor strange 2 crossed $1bn because of the illuminati showing up
Without Illuminati buzz Strange 2 would have been hard-pressed to equal The Batman.
Strange is just not that big an MCU draw.
Cope. Both Strange and Wanda are more popular than any dc hero, including Batman.
They are though. Here's another hard truth, Dccuck : nothing ever happens until Marvel does it.
Hemsworth is one of the biggest stars around, you seriously can’t overestimate how much women horny over shirtless Momoa helped Aquaman hit a billion
Cumberbatch and Pattinson have their fans but they’re past peak popularity as sex symbols and aren’t conventional beefcakes either (they were more for teens who like boyband types)
>DS2 WILL MAKE $1BN GUARANTEED
>doesn't
>IT WASN'T GONNA BE ANOTHER ENDGAME OKAY???
>Thor 4 WILL MAKE $1BN EASY!!!
>doesn't
>IT WASN'T GONNA BE ANOTHER ENDGAME OKAY????
Making a single billion would never be "another Endgame", can you even into math? It wouldn't even be another Civil War.
>Boomer capeshit
Capeshit is boomer capeshit. The average capeshit fan is like 30 now. Kids don't care about your 20 year old film franchise.
This
moron, read
Does capeshit just mean any effects-heavy action film?
Thor will be the biggest box office success of the year BY FAR. You're a delusional moron if you don't think so.
You said that about DS2 tho.
I have never seen anyone claiming DS2 would outgross Thor 4 or Black Panther 2.
No one.
I don't even recall anyone giving DS2 odds over Avatar 2.
Taika and Thor are much, muuuch bigger than Raimi and Strange.
What's your cope gonna be when Thor 4 makes even less than DS2?
They'll say it was shit anyways and shill the next product.
>Slumberpatch outgrossing naked Hemsworth, Groot, Rocket, Pratt and Dubsman
This will always be a rhetorical question.
If Thor 4 falls below DS2 I promise to stop abusing your Mother's holes for the whole rest of the year.
Well you also said you'd eat a Joker Blu-Ray if it hits $1bn and you never did that, why would I take your word on anything?
I'm not every human being you've shitposted at for the last couple of years.
And honestly I am getting tired of your Mom anyways.
Most funny Disney shill.
It will outgross it in 2 weeks. Will make more than first 2 Avengers movies. Taika is unstoppable.
Thank god.
I'm actually fricking sick of capeshit.
Cope moron. MCU will never die. Not in 10 years, not in 50 years, never. We're going to rule the world forever.
MCU will "die" the moment that it stops being profitable for Disney and by extension, Sony. Rather than 5+ movies being released. You'll see maybe 1 while more low-budget series will go to streaming platforms.
Mr. Marvel is a prime example of this already happening. It was lower budget than past Disney+ MCU series and has received little fanfare. I fully expect Disney to push the MCU to its streaming platform over the next few years as the capeshit boom ended with Endgame.
The only thing even competing with it is tentpole blockbusters, and even most of those are falling well short.
Harry Potter, Jurassic, even Tom will MAYBE eke a full billion. Star Wars and Avatar are the main competition for capeshittery. And Disney is fully capable of producing Avatar, Star Wars and MCU simultaneously.
>Star Wars
Lol not anymore
Rise of Skywalker still made a billion. They'll be fine. They're letting Taika make Star Wars movies, and he's like the hottest shit right now.
It gives me hope that we might see some good westerns or space opera movies. I would love some good fantasy but I'm too bitter about how shit they are treating LotR, WoT, etc. I want to see the Malazan books get a movie.
Star Wars and Star Trek have killed Space Opera for good I fear.
I'm happy. X-Men can return to receiving middling blockbusters without the MCU drama.
>Nerd culture: Capitalist products to infantalize & control consumers
Pegg
>Embracing unambiguously childrens characters: emotionally subnormal
Moore
>Fans don't want to admit SW is for children, get upset about being childlike
Lucas
>A 12yo boy had seen SW over a 100 times: I said can you promise never to see it again? He burst into tears. I hope the lad, now in his 30s, isnt living in a fantasy world of childish banalities
Guinness
>SW created the big-budget comics mentality, ate the heart & the soul of Hollywood
Schrader
>Superheroes flying in spandex saving the world are fine for children, children of all ages btw, but its not for me
Friedkin
>I read comics when I was a kid, now I prefer adult oriented stuff
Eastwood
>Became an elevated art form? Its still Batman running around in a stupid cape. Its for kids, adolescent in its core
Cronenberg
>Action without human beings. A 1st in film history. Kids used to be able to learn how a man should act by watching films. Morals. Comics = heroes for businesses
McTiernan
>I hope we get Avenger fatigue. There are other stories to tell
Cameron
>Superman Vs Spiderman, Vs Iron Man… I cant believe people are paying for this shit
Verhoeven
>Spandex must cost a lot. Baffling
Gibson
>Superman makes me vomit. That empire, religion. So important that superheroes suffer… I dont give a damn, I shit on the US
Jodorowsky
>Hate em. Theyre bullshit. Grow up
Gilliam
>SW & Superman have nothing to do with art
Tarkovsky
>Theyre punishment
Ceylan
>Theyre hamburgers
Loach
>Poison, cultural genocide. Plot & explosions & shit that means nothing about human experience
Iñárritu
>Not cinema
Scorsese
>Despicable
Coppola
>Made for kids!
DePalma
>X-Man is for 14yo boys!
Altman
>Going to date very badly
Bogdanovich
>Dull
Fincher
>Boring, not good
R.Scott
>I had to escape!
Noé
>They turned audiences into zombies
Villeneuve
>I'm in combat w/ them
QT
>For fat morons
Boll
>Otakus: humans who cant stand looking at other humans
Miyazaki
Pegg sounds like a massive homosexual, but almost everyone else is correct
>A giant list of cope.
Also:
>Boll
Boll seriously has something to say about any other movie made, especially adaptations of traditionally children's entertainment? The dude is hilariously unaware.
How is any of it a cope?
>cope
A good deal of these people are acclaimed directors responsible for some of the best movies ever made, what do they need to cope for?
that QT quote is out of context
he got into a distribution war over theaters with disney but he obviously loves all movies including superhero movies as a genre. he gave interviews about catching up and marathoning the MCU. he almost did a luke cage movie back in the 90s
he fricking wrote this for godsakes
http://youtube.com/watch?v=miOpmWYLp-k
Cringe
Based
Jesus Christ that looks awful. Why is Taika so cheap? Even the green screen work looks abysmal.
They'll still make capeshit maybe less of it when popularity dies but still make ir cuz we had capeshit since 1920 on film.
We'll have superhero movies, just nothing under the banner of a shared cinematic universe. This can be a good thing as the MCU and DCU bloat are present.
True. The issue is that we are seeing burnout with nearly every IP you cited.
>Harry Potter
The last movie was not well received by viewers and financially was so-so.
>Jurassic Park
The last movie was received poorly by viewers, but the name alone brought in money. This is the last movie of the new trilogy, right? As that could be the saving grace. We don't want another Transformers issue where the series is viewed as bad by existing.
>Avatar
Only 1 movie has come out. Once 3, maybe 2, are out. A better decision can be made.
>Star Wars
Dying due to burnout. Audiences rejected the new trilogy and associated movies. From the Disney+ series, only 1 has been regarded as watchable.
TOP 2010s FILMS (unadjusted domestic gross totals)
1. Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015)
2. Avengers: Endgame (2019)
3. Black Panther (2018)
4. Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
5. Jurassic World (2015)
6. Marvel's The Avengers (2012)
7. Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017)
8. Incredibles 2 (2018)
9. The Lion King (2019)
10. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)
11. Beauty and the Beast (2017)
12. Finding Dory (2016)
13. Frozen II (2019)
14. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
15. The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
16. Toy Story 4 (2019)
18. Captain Marvel (2019)
19. The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013)
20. Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)
21. Toy Story 3 (2010)
22. Wonder Woman (2017)
23. Iron Man 3 (2013)
24. Captain America: Civil War (2016)
25. The Hunger Games (2012)
That's 18 of 25 by Disney, all other studios combining for a whopping 7.
List of worldwide highest-grossing films 2010-present
1 Avengers: Endgame
2 Star Wars: The Force Awakens
3 Avengers: Infinity War
4 Spider-Man: No Way Home
5 Jurassic World
6 The Lion King
7 The Avengers
8 Furious 7
9 Frozen II
10 Avengers: Age of Ultron
11 Black Panther
12 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Pt 2
13 Star Wars: The Last Jedi
14 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
15 Frozen
16 Beauty and the Beast
17 Incredibles 2
18 The Fate of the Furious
19 Iron Man 3
20 Minions
21 Captain America: Civil War
22 Aquaman
23 Spider-Man: Far From Home
24 Captain Marvel
25 Transformers: Dark of the Moon
That's 12 of 25 that are Capeshit. Gee, wonder why the studios produce Capeshit!
Also, the top 40 from 2010 onwards are all Capeshit, and a large chunk are cape flicks.
Christ, Disney leave some for the rest of us will ya
Even when Disney owns the entire TV and film industry they will won't hold a candle to Twitch, YouTube, TikTok, anime/manga, etc.
This will be their argument for when they buy WB and get hit with an anti-trust suit. Even when Disney is at max power people will still prefer to watch something else.
Until Disney buys theater chains and/or Internet Providers, it will never see a monopoly challenge. There are dozens of studios, and no one can prevent you from making movies. Buying WB's tired old franchises changes nothing about that.
Doesn't change my point. Disney owning TV and movies in general isn't a threat because TV and movies are dying. Disney is just buying up a bunch of old legacy mediums and running them into the ground like what happened with radio and music.
The Internet will always be the final frontier of true entertainment.
They have absolutely dominated the last 12 years. some years they have accounted for over 40% of TOTAL worldwide box office.
Why?
Disney is one of the few studios remaining that is not experiencing some form of financial turmoil.
Again, as RLM said, all theaters will become Disney showcases as other studios will only release their BIGGEST BLOCKBUSTERS.
God I'm so glad I stopped watching American (Disney) media.
Agreed. I went full anime+manga and never looked back. American media becoming owned by Disney isn't the win they think it is.
Christ, weebs are as bad as LGBTQ+ for insisting on shoving their business in your face.
DIDJA, DIDJA KNOW I WATCH ANIME!?!?!
Not him but I do it precisely because I know it pisses off white people.
And it works every time.
No, you do it because you are underage B& and it's all you have to blabber on about.
EXACTLY like LGBTQ+, it sums up the whole of your being.
But I'm 26.
Like I said, I do it because it upsets you.
The more asshurt you get at it, the more it'll happen.
Yeah, you sure are trolling me by being a broken-record homosexual who can't contribute to thread topics.
I'm so in tears right now!
But this thread is about how people are sick of capeshit.
And I can definitely relate, because I've gotten kind of sick of American media as a whole.
I'm sorry if that upsets you so much.
Look at it this way, I'm not white anyways, so you don't really have to worry since none of this shit is my culture regardless, it's only yours.
No one honestly cares what your "race" is either. More than half the hilarious /misc/ racists are not white. WHY do you think anyone gives a single frick?
>No one honestly cares what your "race" is either.
Then you shouldn't care when I shit on American media.
Why would you care about the opinions of people who aren't even the same race/culture as you?
Get used to hearing about it. Japan is supplying entertainment that westerners crave and America is supplying less and less of.
I'm trans btw
Now lets see it adjusted for inflation.
>Now lets see it adjusted for inflation
It's only from 2010 onward, there's minimal shift for inflation.
>Disney now owns so many properties and has such a huge output that they have effortlessly dominated the box office for the past 13 years, regardless of the quality of their work
But you guys said Marx was wrong...
Disney shills want this. They genuinely want all media to come from Disney, unironically.
>and has such a huge output
Disney is one of the least productive movie studios, it typically puts out less than half as many movies as either Warner Brothers or Universal, and generally less than even Sony.
What are you fricking on about?
Nah these movies have the same audience, Top Gun is just a fun Marvel tier movie.
>the action blockbuster does better than the other action blockbuster
This seems like a weird side to take.
>take
wienersucking homosexual terminology aside, this the first year non-capeshit blockbuster will beat out capeshit in probably a decade.
>this the first year non-capeshit blockbuster will beat out capeshit in probably a decade.
It has no chance whatsoever to finish ahead of all 3 MCU films. It has yet to pass even the first one.
It's already on pace to beat DS2, which means it already did barring a sudden global pandemic that shuts down theaters again.
Thor 4 won't even hit DS2.
>Thor 4 won't even hit DS2.
DS2 will be well in 3rd place in the MCU this year.
The ONLY MCU sequel to make less than the previous film was Age of Ultron, across 12 years.
Combining the GotG and Thor will crush DS2, and I wouldn't bet against Black Panther 2 easily surpassing a billion and even the first film, because of my first point.
GOTG Vol. 3 is the one movie that can be a guaranteed hit. the final GOTG movie, its gonna be a tearjerker.
People don't care about cameos anymore. DS2 had fricking Mr. Fantastic and it still didn't make a $1bn. Thor 4 looks even more cheap and shit than DS2, and I don't care about GotG outside of Gunn writing for them.
>DS2 had fricking Mr. Fantastic
Oh Very Much Wow!! The star of a trio of incredibly shitty movies was in DS2, played by some other guy.
Well see, one of them is an actor reprising a role in a low-brow CGI splosion-fest, and the other....wait.
>IT'S THE SAME THING!!! THAT MEANS CAPESHIT FATIGUE ISN'T HERE!!!
Holy cope. The difference here is we won't see a Top Gun Cinematic Universe that constantly references itself and brings in characters from other Top Gun Multiverses for maximum cancer.
Tom Cruise is the Tom Cruise Universe, playing the exact same role (Tom Cruise) across the multiverse as a cool guy who's taller than he is irl.
Seriously, he has less range than Stallone.
All MCU characters are just clones of Robert Downey Jr.
>All MCU characters are just clones of Robert Downey Jr.
Frick, Disney only WISHES it were so. Most of them are straight-men to RDjr's shenanigans, Pratt and co. are just straight silly.
You Black folk are acting like Spider-Man didn't make a morbillion dollars a few months ago
Damn, maybe they should put Tobey Maguire in all the MCU movies now to keep them relevant.
Because Top Gun would be making money if it didn't bring back an old actor playing an old character?
If the movie was shit and still starred Tom Cruise, yes it would've flopped.
Lucky another studio decided to make good fun movies like Marvel, it's about time we mousechads had some competition and something else to watch. Thanks for making good movies Tom 🙂
T-that's not fair!!
The post above yours BTFO'd you. Read before posting.
Maverick was rote formula with some cool CGI, and absolutely made money because Murrican's are getting all pro-uniform again and Tom Cruise is in it.
That same movie without Tom's rep would have been lucky to clear $400 million.
Doesn't matter. Point is we don't need homosexual capes for blockbuster kino anymore.
You never did. Familia-shit, transforming robots, Dinosaurs, Star Wars and Princess cartoons have all easily kept pace with Capeshit over the last 12 years, see
Nobody even knew he was in it, Tom Cruise was clearly in Top Gun
You're moronic. Tobey in NWH is often regarded as the worst kept secret in the history of Hollywood. It's quite literally the only reason people saw it. They certainly didn't see it for those piss performances from the villains, except Dafoe of course.
>It's quite literally the only reason people saw it.
The last Tobey-less Spider-Man easily cleared a billion you know.
That was pre-fatigue. Now we're at a point where $1bn in the MCU is unattainable without stunt casting, even then DS2 failed with that.
Your goalpost shifting on cape fatigue is fatiguing.
The goalposts have always been $1bn. It's never changed. All that's changed is people's interest in the MCU.
Capeshit routinely pulling a billion was with China not being locked up and contributing hundreds of millions to worldwide box office.
It wouldn't have been enough to propel The Boreman to a billon, but it would have Strange 2 even if it made half of the original film in China.
Capeshit is dead, Detective movies are IN!
>The age of capeshit is beginning to end
I have been hearing this for years now. Also, Doctor Strange? Call me when an Avengers movie bombs.
Well this will be the first year in a decade the #1 movie isn't capeshit or Star Wars, my dumb friend.
>DS2 wasn't supposed to be big!
Cope.
You may be right, but that's wholly in the hands of Based James Cameron.
Amazing how Dr. Strange 2 can gross 50% more than Strange 1, even without the $100 million from China, and Cape Fatigue Autist sees it as "a sign".
That's a lot of cope for DS2 making less than fricking Top Gun LMFAOOOOOOOO
He's a Disney slave now. Avatar 2 looks worse than Avatar 1 from a visual standpoint already, which means he's doing the same MCU money laundering that Disney does.
Betting against James Cameron confirms you for a complete idiot, if anyone in the thread had lingering doubts.
As long as it means you frickers go back to your damned board that's optimal
Now frick off Wrong board
How the frick did the MCU break everybody so badly to the point that the rare film that isn't based on a comic doing better than them is worthy of note? Why is a fricking billion a benchmark of all things? When hitting a billion was an ultra-rare occasion, and only held by the number of movies you could count on one hand, a movie making around $350-500M or so was seen as a great success, but nowadays it's seen as a mark of failure.
Is this how you're coping with losing to Top Gun?
You are obsessed.
It got problematic when even old shits like Scorcese started insisting on a Capeshit budget to make movies.
>It got problematic when even old shits like Scorcese started insisting on a Capeshit budget to make movies.
Why would he bother? If he's out to make art rather than some popcorn-munching, turn off your brain, "shut up and pay me $15" movies, he wouldn't need that much fricking money. If he just sticks with what worked for him and doesn't fricking bloat the budget, he should be just fine, right?
Because the bar has been both lowered and raised. Used to it was impressive to live past 30, not you actually have to do shit.
Pardon this guy
he's convinced everyone on Cinemaphile is the same guy, and refuses meds.
>mfw fricking planes beat out your homosexual Rick and Morty multiverse movie
>DBSpic
I should have known.
Americans love the frick out of planes, almost as much as the Japs love trains (but not quite).
Then why did Captain Marvel flop? It had planes.
>175 Million vs 1.2 Billion Box Office
How the FRICK is this a flop?
Damn, I had no idea Captain Marvel made $1.2bn. I assumed based on today's numbers it would've made less since DS2 didn't even hit $1bn and people seemed to like that more.
>source: my ass
Post proof or frick off.
Early stages of fatigue != Failure, moron. If you want to see failure look at the MCU shows.
The MCU shows were never going to be Game of Thrones, and Disney+ is killing HBOMax and gaining millions of subscribers while Netflix is bleeding them.
So I'm interested in your "MCU shows are failing metrics". I assume tweets from other aspiring Disney-haters.
>DS2 doesn't have to hit $1bn
>The MCU shows don't have to be popular
>Thor 4 doesn't have to hit $850m
>DS2 doesn't have to hit $1bn
I called it hitting a billion, it fell 50 mil short.
>The MCU shows don't have to be popular
Something is selling Disney+, WB and Netflix wish they had it
>Thor 4 doesn't have to hit $850m
Thor 4 has even odds of being the highest grossing movie this year, with only 2 real competitors, both of them Disney.
>Make art
DeNiro feebly flailing around with bad CGI that makes him look 50, while everyone pretends he looks 20 is not art. It's an embarrassment.
>50 million short
Aka not $1bn and less than Top Gun's projected final haul.
>DeNiro feebly flailing around with bad CGI that makes him look 50, while everyone pretends he looks 20 is not art. It's an embarrassment.
That's my point, why is he inflating his budget and using new methods he's obviously not accustomed to when he could just stick to what works for him? Why is he the one trying to follow the trend?
>why is he inflating his budget and using new methods he's obviously not accustomed to
Because he's a senile doofus who only wants to make movies with his old geezers (apparently Leo had better shit to do), and thus to tell a story that isn't about old geezers he has to CGI the same guys.
Tom Cruise will be dead someday. Peter Parker will outlive fricking you, OP.
Normies are tired of the same woke shit they see in every movie. Maverick is proof that woke movies like Liteyear, Star Wars and the MCU. Normies are done and Hollywood is going to be in a head spin because of it.
Tom Cruise has been around forever, zoomie. You probably just didn't watch his movies because the majority of them usually only do OK at the box office, rarely great like the MCU regularly does.
I’ve been watching movies for over 20 years. Cruise is a consistent draw. Maverick is good because it’s not a woke disaster like Love and Thunder is going to be and like Liteyear was. Liteyear couldn’t dethrone an awful Jurassic Park movie. It bombed. Doctor Strange 2 losing to Top Gun is also proof that people are done with woke media in general.
>woke
>Oh, no! There's women in a film!
He's a consistent draw but he's never crossed a billion ever. He simply cannot pull a Maverick every time out. This was probably Cruise at his highest. He's likely going to fall back down to where he always is. A good box office draw for Mission Impossible, middling with everything else. He's made some great movies people just didn't show up for because there as no nostalgia factor and push like Maverick. People pinning their hopes on Cruise to keep this up every year are delusional. No one does it like him.
Why is american propaganda so unsubtle
The answer to this is sadder. It is advertising. Top Gun had A LOT more advertising, even to the point of restaurants not affiliated with the movie was selling tickets to it.
Show me proof that Top Gun had more advertising than DS2.
Your reply to this post will not contain proof, therefore yor statement is null and void.
>Show me proof that Top Gun had more advertising than DS2.
Not him but are you nuts? DIsney barely even advertises more than 2 weeks out, Maverick had 2 separate huge advertising pushes, both before and after the Coof. I have lost track of how many times I've seen the Maverick teasers/trailers.
Not him but did your worthless parents drop you on your thick subhuman skull as a kid? I've seen way more DS2 marketing than I ever did for Top Gun.
Aren't anecdotes fun, anon? You can just say whatever you want and expect people to believe you.
Top Gun's budget has been very inflated due to all the delays, it's been marketed for years it's bound to be close to 400Mil
DS2 has been known about for years too. Keep coping. More people probably knew about DS2 than Top Gun when it was released just from pure brand recognition.
You have NO excuse for Top Gun winning except admitting it's better and audience tastes are shifting.
It hasn't been advertised for years though anon there is a difference, even without the delays it needed $450Mil just to break even.
Also since when is it a competition? It's the same audience and the movies made basically the same amount of money. We are in this together, everyone wants good movies like Marvel and Top Gun
Anon they played the trailer in front of every big budget movie for 2 YEARS and every other commercial break of the NBA playoffs etc etc. The thing people are forgetting is the military probably ate up a lot of the costs, marketing would have been insane compared to Strange but with the military both movies probably seen even enough profits
I can't. The best I can do is show that out of $175 million budget, TGM used $125 million for marketing, while the only number I can get for DS2 is their total budget being $200 million.
>I can't
Okay cool I won't read the rest of your post then, I assume it's filled with assumptions and more meaningless crap.
>even Ms Marvel
I like how even when people try to agree with you and shit, or give you ammo against disney for say not showing all of the budget of a film while topgun does, you still shit on them.
Your post is utterly incomprehensible.
You're 53 and you shill for Disney? What's wrong with you? I'm half your age. What an embarrassing manchild grandpa you are.
Damn Ms Marvel got 30Million views in 5 days? Quite impressive for some random spin off kid's show
It is not ending yet.
>The age of capeshit is beginning to end.
You've been saying that for years.
Brilliant, now post Top Gun's marketing budget
Yes. Post it. Show proof that it was marketed more than DS2, coping homosexual. You won't though so keep seething.
Both tests of fire went well. Spiderman grossed more then 1 billion and stranged neared it. They can still create social events.
And secret wars is looming.
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
What's next?
They're coping about advertising now.
My cope is that having movies gross more than the mcu doesnt mean the mcu is doing bad.
No one said the MCU is doing bad, you insecure homosexual. But it's undeniable that fatigue is setting in, especially when you look at the MCU shows starting to lose any audience they had.
Just because top gun does better than the mcu, it doesnt mean fatigue is setting in.
>ignoring the second half of my post that talks about the MCU shows audiences dropping off with every new show
I am focusing on OP, which generated 170 replies.
MCU shows are capeshit too, just even worse than the usual capeshit.
Moon Knight did pretty bad too.
The shows ratings are a stronger argument thsn top gun grossing out more. Let's see how they will handle that.
Disney doesn't obsess over ratings metrics, Twitter-tards trying to contrarian against Disney obsess over them.
Disney cares about paid subscribers. It has already gained over 7 million in the US this year, to HBOMax's 3 million and Netflix's -200,000.
So they aren't worried about Disney+, it was never intended to be more than advertisement for future movies, and the movies are doing fine now.
I don't care about paid subscribers. Neither of us work at Disney. I care about MCU fatigue, and Ms Marvel only getting 750k viewers while Wandavision got 2m is fatigue in action. Even Moon Knight barely hit 1m.
>I care about MCU fatigue
MCU will almost certainly pull 3 billion with 3 MCU movies this year. You are literally the only sperg claiming MCU fatigue, because it's become your OBSESSION.
It didn't even pull $1bn with 1 movie.
Close enough
But not enough to bruise the cruise and hit $1bn, apparently.
Tom hasn't into a billion yet either. Ever.
Tom Cruise has yet to a billion dollars, this will be his first if he pulls it off.
>If
What part of on-pace do you not understand? Unless a meteor destroys earth, Top Gun is passing DS2 and hitting $1bn.
This is the first time in a decade a non-cape movie was #1 for the year, moron.
>This is the first time in a decade a non-cape movie was #1 for the year, moron.
So that means it's dead? A SINGLE YEAR?! Also we still have six months, bro. Calm yourself down a bit.
I get you autstically hate capeshit and you've made disliking it a part of your core personality but you're really really reaching.
He has almost solely piped this Capeshit fatigue narrative for over 5 years, easily.
>Top Gun is still capeshit!
NEW COPE ALERT
NEW COPE ALERT
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
Top Gun is still capeshit (even though it's literally not, most pathetic cope so far)
What's next?
>Covid (effected both movies)
True
>China (both not showing in China)
True but Marvel had an audience there I guess was their cope so it's still cope
>Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Very true not sure how this is cope, he is a small character
>Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
True but it's impressive he reached a billion
>Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
Top Gun has been advertised for 2 years, it's budget is going to be high but that doesn't take away from it's achievements even if it's takeaway is lower than Strange's the gross wasn't effected by it's ballooned marketing
>It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
They were both released around the same time, obviously Top Gun has a slight edge and is making slightly more. It's actually a good cope considering the gap in gross is so small, would be even better if you add the fact Strange had Top Gun to kill it off and Top Gun should have been quickly killed off by Jurassic World if it was good
>Top Gun is still capeshit (even though it's literally not, most pathetic cope so far)
Both are basically the same genre but it's not capeshit even if the ending is just inverted Star Wars and the whole movie is about blowing up the bad guy's superweapon while fighting faceless CGI enemies
What possees people to become such Disney warriors that they unironically type out embarrassing shit like this to defend their new Disney product from being beat by a movie about planes?
What drives Disney shills? I know you aren't being paid or laid.
Did you even read what I said you dumb moron? I praised Top Gun multiple times I am just explaining how this shit works to you seething capeshitters who just want marbel to lose because it's popular as if it's a fricking competition because Marvel and Top Gun have the same fricking audience.
You seem awfully mad that your Disney product lost to movie about planes going brrrr.
No like everybody on the planet I enjoyed both, I like good fun movies. Glad another studio made one finally
At least pretend to be shattered about it, this has to sustain him for the entirety of the year.
>Glad another studio finally made one
Yeah you're a Disney shill dude lmao. I watch good movies all the time and rarely do they come from Disney.
I'm talking about fun blockbusters about straight white male American heroes like Captain America, Iron-Man, Spider-Man and Maverick. The audience for these movies have all been the exact same people
It's also not making that much more money than Dr Strange
Actually it is only theoretically making more than Doctor Strange over the next weekend or two.
>It's barely beating DS2!
NEW COPE ALERT
NEW COPE ALERT
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
Top Gun is still capeshit (even though it's literally not, most pathetic cope so far)
It's barely beating DS2 (which means it still lost moron LMAO)
What's next?
It's basically the same genre though, maybe Top Gun has been the only good non-Marvel blockbuster movie in the past decade? Something about it made the Marvel audience go see it above everything else and it's not as simple as fatigue
Yes, the non-Summer movie with it's weakest stars this year pulled only 95% of a billion. It's big summer flick and BP2 will make up the rest.
>non-summer
NEW COPE ALERT
NEW COPE ALERT
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
What's next?
What a massive cope
I dont think ms marvel will have a second season
Why not? It's cheap to make and Captain Marvel 2 will certainly boost it's profile.
Top Gun didn't gross more than Spider-Man though? And the shows are just for the hardcore fans like (you)
If you divide the box office by the three spifermen, top gun grossed out more
Technically yes...I guess you would be right
>OMG! Ms Marvel numbers, the MCU is entirely FINISHED!!!
>But it's undeniable that fatigue is setting in
You said this when Black Widow came out, and now movies are tripling Black Widow's box office with ease.
You've been piping this tune for years and years now. Do you not get tired?
>DS2 doesn't have to make $1bn
>MCU shows don't have to stay above 1m ratings
>MCU shows don't have to stay above 1m ratings
They are way above that though, even Ms Marvel. You dumb chuds don't even know how sample sizes work
It's just DCucks false flagging, nothing to worry about
>blaming DC fans
That’s a cope
No one claimed Strange was irrelevant, you keep claiming he's more popular than Thor or the Guardians, which is completely laughable.
Not even you believe that, you are just soaking up (You)s being ass-headed.
Congratulations for top gun for grossing more money than any movie this year. Tom cruise is a monster.
Mcu is here to stay, though.
I'd rather capeshit than 80's nostalgia shit
Capesht is 80's nostalgia shit you moron. Thor 4 literally has a Guns n Roses song and old references to classic Thor comics.
Not him but every MCU movie I go to is mostly 25+ year olds.
>Not him but every MCU movie I go to is mostly 25+ year olds.
I can say with certainty that the Tom Cruise audience is at LEAST as old as the MCU one.
Okay wiseguys. Since you're so smart, what genre/franchise will replace capeshit when it "dies"? Nobody can answer this.
Once it dies cinema is over
Honestly? A full reboot of the MCU and possibly Transformers. Quite potentially animated remakes of classic Disney live action films that are remakes of even classic-er animated films.
>being such a capeshitgay that your idea of what's after capeshit is just more capeshit
I feel bad for zoomers that weren't conscious before the MCU. They really have no idea how different things can be.
Nobody knew capeshit was going to replace zombies. We don't know what will replace capeshit.
Zombies didn't last anywhere as long as capeshit, Westerns, or 80s action films.
That was a 5 year fad.
>Nobody knew capeshit was going to replace zombies.
Zombies were barely a factor in theaters. What is the highest grossing zombie film?
>I feel bad for zoomers
I'm 53. I love a lot of non-cape movies, but that's what fills theaters. I have no idea what he trend on Streaming will be in years to come... maybe fantasy adaptations with added diversity??
>Guardians 1: 772.8 Million
>Guardians 2: 863.8 Million
I'll start believing in MCU fatigue if Guardians 3 does worse than the first two.
Everyone likes Gunn though. I hate the current state of the MCU and I'm watching that day 1. Most friends I talk to say this is the only movie in Phase 4 they care about.
>Everyone likes Gunn though.
Tell that to the producers of Suicide Squad.
I liked that movie, and I'm pretty sure Peacemaker has better reviews and ratings than all MCU shows.
I'm pretty sure you believe that, too. Regardless of any basis in fact.
Not him but Peacemaker does have a higher IMDb rating than any MCU show at 8.5, and it definitely is better.
I have heard DCkeks go back and forth on IMDB, adn Metacritic and RT so many goddamn times that I cannot even be bothered to care what their take on critics is THIS week.
Pretty sure people just liked Peacemaker and everyone is mid on the MCU shows. It's not that difficult.
>it doesn't need to make $1bn
>it doesn't need to make $1bn
Yes, I heard that about The Batman for weeks now.
What's funny is I actually do see way more Batman threads than DS2 threads. People dropped this movie like a rock after the week it came out.
cope
Yes, I'm sure Warner's goal was to make a hundred million or more less, but to spawn a year's worth of "there are too many nigs in The Batman" threads.
Not him but DS2 did have the biggest drop after week 1 in the MCU percentage wise
Some silliness about seeing a supernatural movie on Friday the 13th? It certainly rebounded over Saturday-Sunday.
>Friday the 13th
NEW COPE ALERT
NEW COPE ALERT
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
Top Gun is still capeshit (even though it's literally not, most pathetic cope so far)
It's barely beating DS2 (which means it still lost moron LMAO)
It premieree on friday the 13th (bruh get yo goofy 1970's superstitions out of here)
What's next?
>1% more of a drop off than No Way Home
>10th biggest MCU opening
>10th biggest MCU movie
I mean sure I guess it had the biggest drop off but does that stat really mean anything? It had more to lose than most of the other movies and didn't lose much more
>Thor 4 and Black Panther 2 make $1 billion each
>OP cries "capeshit fatigue" for another decade
didn't the exact same thing happen when the last Thor and Black Panther came out?
It was even worse with Captain Marvel.
What's your cope gonna be when Thor 4 doesn't make $1bn? I'd also be surprised if BP2 even came out this year. We haven't heard anything about it and it releases in 5 months.
>What's your cope gonna be when Thor 4 doesn't make $1bn?
I already said I'd forgo abusing your Mother's holes for the rest of 2022 if it fails. What more can you ask?
Thor 3 didn't make a billion. The autistic screeching came from Captain Marvel being a massive success.
They wont reach a billion but they will make a lot of money.
>Black Panther 2: Without Black Panther
>make $1 billion
Peacemaker does have a higher critic rating than all the Disney+ shows
Or literally any Marvel film that isn't Age of Ultron.
Which was literally where this "Cape Fatigue" shittery first started. With Age of fricking Ultron.
>Which was literally where this "Cape Fatigue" shittery first started
No it didn't, it started in the expo before Age of Ultron where Feige revealed that we were only a few years away from marvel starting to release 3 films a year every year
>The age of capeshit is beginning to end.
You guys have been saying this for a decade
>the evidence for capeshit fatigue is a movie that made $950 million
Captain Marvel made $1.2bn. This would've made $1.5bn if released during pre-fatigue.
If the MCU continues to put out lackluster films, it's gonna be dying real fricking soon
No one cares about Ms Marvel, Black Widow/Eternals/Shang Chi were mediocre, No Way Home was only good thanks to Tobey/Andrew and Strange 2 was badly written
If you keep forcing people to have to sit through mediocrity to get the set up to plot points that will get fulfilled years later, they're gonna stop watching all together
>Disney shills when they hear a plane flying overhead
Holy reddit
kek
This is the fastest thread on Cinemaphile right now. You guys are definitely mad, and it's obvious.
You're putting on a wilder show than Jared Leto, where else would we be?
I'm not the one butthurt that my movie lost to planes LMAO.
Hey man it's not just planes it's pure kino, even us Mousechads can appreciate it's a good movie. Don't insult Top Gun just to try spite the Mouse, you can make fun of capeshitters and Disney and Doctor Strange on their own without trying to make fun of planes flying at Mach 10 as if it's not cool as shit
>If you can't beat em, join em!
NEW COPE ALERT
NEW COPE ALERT
List of copes so far:
Covid (effected both movies)
China (both not showing in China)
Doctor Strange is irrelevant (the same people who hyped this movie up)
Tom Cruise (only valid cope, everyone loves Cruise)
Advertising budget (as if everyone hasn't known about DS2 for years now)
It wasn't released in summer (as if that's relevant anymore)
Top Gun is still capeshit (even though it's literally not, most pathetic cope so far)
It's barely beating DS2 (which means it still lost moron LMAO)
Top Gun was made for MCU fans (LMAO)
What's next?
>Top Gun was made for MCU fans (LMAO)
Nobody said that
Sure thing definitely believe you, you would fit right in on reddit
Tell me which comicbook Northman came from.
Makes sense. They genuinely believe all movies are capeshit.
>Tell me which comicbook Northman came from.
What does that have to do with literally anything? Even if it was based on a comic it wouldn't be capeshit
You said cinema is capeshit ,and capeshit dying means cinema dies. I said the vast majority of capeshit isn't cinema and most movies I watch aren't capeshit. You said you don't believe me, so I named a new movie I watched recently that isn't capshit.
I know Disney shills have short term memory but please follow the conversation.
The Northman is not keeping cinema alive anon
>no it's not fair because um...that movie came out within the last year instead of um...within the last month
You're right, Top Gun is keeping cinema alive by reminding people you don't need to watch capeshit to have a good time.
>projecting your suicidal thoughts from being BTFO'd by Cruise
Keep crying. You lost.
based
I'm glad you agree Shang-Chi, Black Panther, and Captain Marvel suck. Thor 4 will suck too because he's not straight anymore.
kek
yeah you sound pretty mad right now
10/10
Based. Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul also mogs capeshit.
>y-y-y-y-y-yy-y-ou guys are mad
I love DCuck tears, everyone else enjoying Raimikino and Planekino in while Batman trails behind long forgotten about
Look at your post and pretend you're someone else seeing it for the first time. Do you honestly think you don't come off as incredibly asshurt?
Don't forget Morbius, we are eating good
DCucks are in absolute shambles, they don't even realise Top Gun is watched by the same people who watch Marvel movies and only a few people on reddit and Cinemaphile care about box office to such an autistic degree. They probably think Batman had a totally separate audience as well somehow
Why does Cinemaphile eve. Care about box office. Yall sirs gay or something?
Pretty good
You subhuman morons have been making these threads for over 10 years and you get it wrong every time.
Can't tell if your parents dropped you as a baby, drank while you were in the womb, or your parents are just as dumb and subhuman as you.
This is the first time in a decade capeshit has lost to non-capeshit.
No excuse for Dr Strange on not hitting 1 Billion. It wasn’t 3 hrs long and Strange is already established and build up in the MCU universe.
Maks me clamour for dog fighting media.
Boxofficegays please dilate already.