The episode guide might name them all when it releases on the official site. The only ones new in this episode named on screen are Greer and Samson, the other two are unnamed. Fireball and Nemec already appeared in the second season.
Greer and Samson being green and purple makes me think they served with Yoda and Mace, Samson even sounds like a reference to Samuel Jackson. Nemec and Fireball also look like 41st Elite Corps. Not sure about the two unidentified red clones.
They're maroon I think and Ponds was 91st Recon Corps so it could be them on Anaxes in S7 too. But that was the 187th Battalion. The 187th Legion is a separate thing and they are canon. They just didn't appear in TCW. >Leland Chee further elaborated that it was a conscious decision to try to keep the 187th Legion and Windu's unit in The Clone Wars series as different units rather than the same unit that uses two different color schemes. The 187th Legion debuted in Star Wars canon in the LEGO Star Wars "Republic Fighter Tank" set that was revealed in 2022. Windu's unit within the Bad Batch arc was later named the "187th Battalion" on the Hasbro Pulse livestream for May the Fourth, 2022 as a Star Wars: The Black Series set.
Aren't red clones shock troopers or part of the Coruscant Guard?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah they could be shock troopers who were part of the Diplomatic Service offworld stuff or 91st Recon Corps, both are red.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Always thought he was red because he was part of the Coruscant Guard and Jar Jar was a senator.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Stone is. But there's a unit within the Coruscant Guard that deals with diplomatic stuff on other planets. They escort senators and stuff like you see Commander Thorn doing with Padme on Scipio. Not all of them were cooped up on Coruscant policing the streets or guarding the senate like Fox.
2 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't change the fact they're still under that umbrella of the Courusant Guard. They're just part of a specific unit within in.
2 months ago
Anonymous
That's what I was saying. And it's a corps too so it's pretty big. I'm sure they could've had units stationed on other worlds besides Coruscant guarding imperial strongholds but it was easier for some to defect in those places and join Rex's cell.
No, Scorch mentioning Sev doesn't happen until episode 10 where we get a pov episode for him, we also get to see Boss and Fixer in episode 8, Boss and Fixer both have grey paint where their respective orange and green paint used to be.
I mean Wolffe is pretty fortunate that the clones with him just went along with this and he's also lucky all the TK troopers either got killed or knocked out during this confrontation, but I don't see how he's going to handle this in his report.
They're also lucky that Scorch was a moron and sent only two shuttles and not two cruisers. But Wolffe is fricked, and if it wasn't for Rebels where he is shown alive, I'd say he should have been done after this.
>They're also lucky that Scorch was a moron
Cut Scorch some slack, he didn't consider that Wolffe would just....let them go, also he still gets a pass for me for not immediately ratting Hemlock out in front of Palpatine when he was informed about Omega and Crosshair's escape.
>the bad batch goes to the snow planet where they learn nothing new about tantiss >Hunter thinks Crosshair is an butthole but their problems are immediately solved by fighting a big bug
FILONI..........
LA CREATIVIDAD...
When the character development happens in one episode
Yeah I'm saying the Batch got over Crosshair's return way too quickly, I'd give it atleast two episodes before Hunter got along with him again. Prefferably three.
But this shit only has 15 episodes.
>Too quickly
What do you expect? Have Crosshair and Omega rot on Tantis doing the same old routines for 2/3rds of the season while the show follows Hunter and Wrecker trying to find leads on them, then the two break out and twe immediately go to the climax?
This is better because it means things with Crosshair aren't rushed. Like the previous week, you had Hunter and Crosshair finally reconcile sorta given the bad blood between them. Meanwhile the last episode had Howitzer come to an understanding with him given how much of a justified reason he had to hate Crosshair.
Having Crosshair sit in a box would rush those things and then you'd then be whining about that.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I just think it's shallow to see Hunter get over 2 seasons worth of Crosshair being with the empire in a 20 minute long episode.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It really helps Omega is there as a character witness for Crosshair. Plus if Hunter spent most of the season not trusting Crosshair, you'd complain about that. The way they did things gets you the most mileage.
The only downside is Rex's clone rebellion has been kneecapped, so it should be interesting to see how he ends up alive, the Empire knowing he's alive and a broken man from here.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you assume what I would and would not enjoy? Crosshair being distrusted could be good if handled well.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Because you're telegraphing like crazy. If they had an extra season, they could stretch out Crosshair being distrusted, but they don't have that luxury now.
>Clone is named Fireball >Uses a flamethrower to charge clone shadow operative/assassin >The fire from his flamethrower hits some grenades (that are shaped like balls) which ends up killing him
You frickers, stop with the name puns, I still haven't forgiven them for Ima Gun Di.
>introduce geared out rebel clones troopers with interesting colors/armor and weapons >almost all of them get taken out like chumps
come on now, after fireball and nemec whooping ass in their first scene i was expecting more from clones who disobeyed order 66
Got it's so depressing that animation talent like this is being wasted on such a subpar streaming content. Such an amazing-looking show and so fricking boring.
It seems more like a some kind of heated blade given the cuts we see similar ones (like Hunter's earlier on) make
They're also lucky that Scorch was a moron and sent only two shuttles and not two cruisers. But Wolffe is fricked, and if it wasn't for Rebels where he is shown alive, I'd say he should have been done after this.
Makes sense to me that they went for rapid response over overwhelming force. In the time it took to muster a larger ship and contingent, the targets could have slipped away
Remember when everyone said Filoni was going to save Star Wars?
Yeah now both the Mandalorian and Bad Batch are doing clean up for the sequels, both series that had him as showrunner are about how Sheev cloned himself.
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
Answer me this, why are you so moronic? Why are you so hellbent on trying to convince people that filoni has nothing to do with this show, despite his name being all over it, and him being extensively involved with the previous two seasons? Why would he not be involved with the third season in the same way, despite occupying the same role on the show, and considering the fact that it ties into his live-action projects more than anything else? Why are you like this, Ventressgay? What happened to you? What made you so fricking retared?
I havent seen him in any marketing material for season 3
he wasnt even there when S3 was annouced at star wars celebration despite there being no excuse for him to absent from it as he was at star wars celebration too
2 months ago
Anonymous
proof of this
https://www.starwars.com/news/swce-2023-the-bad-batch-season-3
you're just telling me that he's "totally in charge of season 3" despite him never showing up to talk about stuff, him never doing interviews nor him being present at the seasons announcement?
he hasnt been mentioned by the lead writer and lead producer in regards to the story either
hell, iirc he even said he left ToTJ season 2 to other people?
he's off fricking his ahsoka blow up doll and writing more mandoverse slop, there has been no evidence of him involved in season 3
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, stupid Black, he's totally in charge of the entire show. Because he is its creator and executive producer. That's how it works, Black person.
>Behind the scenes, Lucasfilm took the sequence, and the decision to kill off Tech, very seriously. “There were a lot of conversations that went into that, and we even tried to talk ourselves out of it many times, because he's such an important character to the show, to all of us and the crew, and we know he is important to the fans,” Corbett says. “But what we're showing in Season 2 is that the galaxy has changed and the Empire is now very powerful in the early years. So we were trying to be logical in the sense that, the Batch keeps putting themselves in these positions and, ultimately, there has to be a time when they do lose." Dave Filoni, series creator and executive producer, agreed.
>“Even Dave said, when we were pitching him ideas for leading up to the finale, ‘If you're going to have them go against Tarkin, Tarkin’s smart. Tarkin will be able to pull one over on them,’” says Corbett. “And as he should — to again show how the balance has changed in the galaxy.”
https://www.starwars.com/news/brad-rau-jennifer-corbett-the-bad-batch-season-3-interview
And when S3 is over, and when behind the scenes interview will start to roll out, just like it happened with the previous seasons, and it will be revealed that, indeed, Filoni was developing this show and was extensively involved with developing its story, I just hope you will blow your brains out and live-stream it. But we know what you'll do instead. You'll just ignore the inconvenient truth, like the chicken shit pussy you are.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Have you seen him in any marketing material for S1 and S2? Jesus fricking Christ, you are so fricking stupid. Holy frick, I can't imagine being you. It's actually funny why you do it. You have such a hateboner for him, and now that Ventress is in this show, you started to shill it relentlessly across this entire fricking website, like an obsessed freak you are. And you happen to like it, but since Filoni made it, you can't admit that you like something made by Filoni, so you try your hardest, you pull the hardest shit out of your ass to come up with some utmost moronic delusions, outright denying the fricking reality, you stupid Black person, that is presented to you at the end of every episode:
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
Because you are a moronic schizo. I can't wait for Ventress to show up in Ahsoka S2, and you will start shilling it too. Because you are like this, you are mentally ill. You've been doing it for over 10 years. The fact that you have no self-awareness just proves that you are an NPC, because otherwise you would have killed yourself a long ago.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Have you seen him in any marketing material for S1 and S2?
yes, I'll just quote your own post which you've seen to have conveniently forgotten about
remember this image that you posted?
now again, show me evidence of him with season 3
2 months ago
Anonymous
That's not marketing material. This article came out months after S2 ended. Dumb Black person.
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-insider-219-excerpt
Published on June 16, 2023.
Now go fetch me some marketing material. As in, before the season was out. Or during it. Stupid Black person.
2 months ago
Anonymous
sure here you go
https://www.starwars.com/news/zillo-beast-101
now show me something for season 3
2 months ago
Anonymous
Did you even read the shit you've posted, Black person? Or did you just Ctrl+F "Dave" and called it a day?
>This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release, Filoni said, “I knew that the zillo beast had to be different. It is rare for George [Lucas] to approve something, like the lightsaber not being able to cut through [its hide]. It had to do something we had never seen before.”
He is talking about The Clone Wars' arc. It is literally written "This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release". Can you comprehend English, monkey? Where was it said that he was talking about the episodes of Bad Batch? Fricking Christ, just fricking have a nice day already.
>now show me something for season 3
Yeah, stupid Black, he's totally in charge of the entire show. Because he is its creator and executive producer. That's how it works, Black person.
>Behind the scenes, Lucasfilm took the sequence, and the decision to kill off Tech, very seriously. “There were a lot of conversations that went into that, and we even tried to talk ourselves out of it many times, because he's such an important character to the show, to all of us and the crew, and we know he is important to the fans,” Corbett says. “But what we're showing in Season 2 is that the galaxy has changed and the Empire is now very powerful in the early years. So we were trying to be logical in the sense that, the Batch keeps putting themselves in these positions and, ultimately, there has to be a time when they do lose." Dave Filoni, series creator and executive producer, agreed.
>“Even Dave said, when we were pitching him ideas for leading up to the finale, ‘If you're going to have them go against Tarkin, Tarkin’s smart. Tarkin will be able to pull one over on them,’” says Corbett. “And as he should — to again show how the balance has changed in the galaxy.”
https://www.starwars.com/news/brad-rau-jennifer-corbett-the-bad-batch-season-3-interview
And when S3 is over, and when behind the scenes interview will start to roll out, just like it happened with the previous seasons, and it will be revealed that, indeed, Filoni was developing this show and was extensively involved with developing its story, I just hope you will blow your brains out and live-stream it. But we know what you'll do instead. You'll just ignore the inconvenient truth, like the chicken shit pussy you are.
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
have a nice day, low IQ inbred UK subhuman.
2 months ago
Anonymous
my mistake, but see
and heres the season 2 announcement, look who was there when you read it
https://www.starwars.com/news/swca-2022-the-bad-batch-season-2-panel
and heres more season 2 stuff at D23, and oh look, dave talked about it too
https://www.starwars.com/news/d23-expo-2022-lucasfilm
so tell me, if he was present for season 2 marketing
why is he absent for season 3 if he's still "a big part of the show" according to you?
2 months ago
Anonymous
and heres the season 2 announcement, look who was there when you read it
https://www.starwars.com/news/swca-2022-the-bad-batch-season-2-panel
and heres more season 2 stuff at D23, and oh look, dave talked about it too
https://www.starwars.com/news/d23-expo-2022-lucasfilm
so tell me, if he was present for season 2 marketing
why is he absent for season 3 if he's still "a big part of the show" according to you?
2 months ago
Anonymous
my mistake, but see [...]
See:
Did you even read the shit you've posted, Black person? Or did you just Ctrl+F "Dave" and called it a day?
>This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release, Filoni said, “I knew that the zillo beast had to be different. It is rare for George [Lucas] to approve something, like the lightsaber not being able to cut through [its hide]. It had to do something we had never seen before.”
He is talking about The Clone Wars' arc. It is literally written "This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release". Can you comprehend English, monkey? Where was it said that he was talking about the episodes of Bad Batch? Fricking Christ, just fricking have a nice day already.
>now show me something for season 3
[...]
[...]
have a nice day, low IQ inbred UK subhuman.
You do know who Joel Aron is, light? The cinematographer and lighting artist of the show? Probably not, you're a dumb Black person, you don't know shit.
Just tell me this: when the behind-the-scenes interviews will roll out, months and years later, where it will be revealed in detail, are you going to have a nice day? Yes or no? I am willing to pay if you live-stream it. You are the Chris Chan of Star Wars threads. That would be amazing if you killed yourself. Go back to plebbit, you scum.
2 months ago
Anonymous
you know whats funny?
I was defending filoni by saying he wasnt part of season 3
Remember when everyone said Filoni was going to save Star Wars?
Yeah now both the Mandalorian and Bad Batch are doing clean up for the sequels, both series that had him as showrunner are about how Sheev cloned himself.
but you're just so obsessed that you didnt see it
keep coping and seething, and if in the future its revealed that im wrong, oh well, at least I got some good star wars out of it
I imagine he was asked to "fix" the sequels based on the erroneous idea that Clone Wars fixed the prequels, so he want after the biggest problem first, the fact that th Emperor is alive without any real explanation in the sequels.
in the end, the truth is that Clone Wars was decent and had Lucas involved, but it didn't fix the prequels, people that liked them will still like them and people that hate them will still hate them, no cartoon can change that. And them wasting several series trying to resolve J.J.'s laziness and Johson's buttholery are a fricking waste.
for frick sake, Filoni is neither a director or writer on bad batch beside the first episode. His role with the show is mostly for promotional purpose. I'm tired people still think he's the guy handling it.
The season is going to end with only Rex, Gregor and Wolffe being Alive while all the Bad Batch and remaining clone including Omega, dies in a final stand on Planet Pabu or Planet Tantis. Im calling it
So the operative is definitely a character we know who got winter soldiered, right? Who do you guys think it is, I'm betting it's either Cody or Dogma.
Also, anyone got some hd screenshots of tacticool Howzer?
I'm in denial of that even being a possibility because its way too similar to what happened to Echo. It would be an interesting reveal, but I would rather have it be Cody who supposedly went rogue yet has been suspiciously absent.
Wollfe trusted Rex too easily. It was weird than no clone in his squad had anything to say against it, only commando tried to say something, but immediately backed down and that's it. That line in the end from Rex was moronic "If you want to keep her safe, you need to know why they are after her". Motherfricker, that does not compute. What the frick did he mean by this. Too keep her safe they need to run and hide. It's irrelevant to Hunter why the Empire wants her.
>Also, anyone got some hd screenshots of tacticool Howzer?
80% of the episode was dark as shit, and you couldn't get a good look. That's a lot of pouches on his chest.
>It's irrelevant to Hunter why the Empire wants her.
I think what Rex was trying to get at was that they need to shut down whatever program the Empire needs her for or else the Empire will just keep sending assassins and they won't be able to hide forever. But even then they already want to shut down Tantiss so it's still a bit confusing.
I liked how the TK troopers actually seem to like working with clones and respect them. The only one who dislike clones seems to be imperial officers.
I bet a lot of the early TK recruits were people coming from worlds that were liberated by clones which is what inspired them to sign up.
Clones trained them after all.
I kinda wonder if they too ended up being replaced by the Stormtroopers. Just without any experimentation and all, just in the soft "early replacement by new recruits" way.
That one blonde imperial admiral in Rebels, the one in command of that Interdictor, respected clones and that one imperial Moff did speak out against using clones and guinea pigs for Hemlock. So it's probably just individual preferences.
It's okay as long as Howzer lives. Plus, I'm sure he will replenish their numbers with Wolffe's squad soon enough. I wonder if any of the clones with Wolffe were the Plo's bros that we are familiar with like Boost, Sinker, and Comet.
was good today episode, i still feel like this show could had been way better.
I still believe the original idea for this show was to be a anthology with each episode focused on diferent clones dealing with the new reality of the empire.
This show should have been about the Bad Batch, from the start, be a part of the Clone Rebellion key getting allies, seeing the Empire morph into the monster it will become with how it treated its best soldiers and seeing Palpatine's pet scientist make abominations and the cloning project.
It's amazing how any episode dealing with those premises are so damn great, compared to the monster of the week bullshit filler episodes.
This show had potential, but wastes anything cool on it.
I was saying this since season 1. This show is one big wasted potential. I can't fathom why they refuse to make anthology shows like Clone Wars. Lucas' live-action Underworld would have been an anthology as well. Massive in scale, jumping around the galaxy, lots of interesting characters and stories, not this same stale shit with ughmeegah doing another odd job for Cid that is either a monster hunt or a treasure hunt. Big shame. You could have made an entire season about different clone commanders and battalions alone, like you made an ep about Cody. Could have made episodes about Bly, Bacara, Appo, Neyo, Fox, Delta Squad. Can have political episodes with Chuchi and Bail on Coruscant. Can have Rebel episodes with Saw Gerrera. Can have clone rebellion episodes with Rex. Can have Darth Vader hunting down Jedi. Can have Maul and Crimson Dawn arcs. Can have bounty hunters. Like shit, it could have been TCW 2: Dark Times. Same format. Guaranteed success. I guess single cast of characters doing monster hunt is cheaper, or something.
>with less time to develop all the characters
Nonsense. Crosshair had two episodes out of sixteen in Season 2, and he was developed more than any other character that wasted hours of screentime for nothing. Maybe they could develop characters if they didn't waste fricking time on meaningless bullshit that has nothing to say. I still can't discern Wrecker's character beyond his basic archetype that he's always been: big, loud, dumb guy with a heart of gold, who likes to SMAAAAAAAASH things. Hunter is still a reluctant fricking pussy, "You can't defeat them, Empire too strong :~~*" He's been like this for 3 seasons. MUH OMEGA!
The biggest problem with Star Wars is, they can make compelling characters with interesting backstories and motivations, but that takes time and effort. Something many in the writing room seem to lack, and instead of trying to make organic and original characters, we're going back in the past and in graves to jangle nostalgia like a set of shiny keys at babies because the writers either don't know how to make anything cool and intriguing or they don't want to put in the work in making compelling people or things.
At this point Crosshairs seems to be an anomaly/flash in a pan, or somebody's husbando in the writing room.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>or somebody's husbando
Yeah, mine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
No, he's mine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>or somebody's husbando
Yeah, mine.
You homies aren't for real right? The lanky bald guy who sounds like he smokes a pack a day? With vocal fry like an art-hoe?
2 months ago
Anonymous
The dick wants what it wants
2 months ago
Anonymous
Buddy, my husbando preferences have no standards at all.
>doesn't include the most kino shot of the episode
2 months ago
Anonymous
That episode has many a kino shot.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>silhouettes, characters in the middle of negative space, not too stylized widescreen >happens only in the episodes with the most budget
When will they reveal that Roger Deakins unofficially consulted them?
>Wrecker
Really doesn't have a character arc to go through, he is who he is. >Hunter
In season 1 he had to learn how to be a surrogate father for Omega, given in the 2nd episode he tried to leave her Cut, but later there were multiple other situations where he was protective of her. >Crosshair
Got his development in the final episode of season 1, and then when he was stuck on the Hoth-lite and was shown loyalty doesn't go 2 ways with the Empire. >Echo
Will always be the grumpy third wheel the writers don't know what to do with him. Really the only truly wasted character.
No I thought the same with how the voice would modulate to a higher register at times. Not just that but the music too. When Clone X notices Omega in his scope there's a pause on his face and the music goes somber. It's not like a foreboding or dangerous sounding track like "oh shit they've found her" it was more "oh Tech recognizes her for a second but then locks back into assassin mode".
[...]
Ideally I don't want it to be Tech because I think there's been too many fakeout deaths not to mention we already did that with Echo. But I'm kind of expectin it now with how they telegraphed Clone X this episode. And the fact that he not only survived but it's likely him leading the occupation of Pabu in the trailers too. I just feel like for this guy to become a recurring villain he has to be someone and we already unmasked two of these assassins so this feels more significant.
Also if it was Tech or Cody we'd immediately recognize them as assassins. Tech looks different to any other clone and Cody has his scar.
Only crosshair folds his arms like that.
Clone X is a clone of crosshair.
There are a lot of animation errors in this season. There was also a shot of Wolffe pulling out a gun and then it disappeared right out of his hand. There was also a shot in the first episode when clone commando walked into Omega's room for an inspection, and he literally disappeared right as he went past Omega. Walking animations are kinda weird this season. It's rushed, or the fact that they closed Lucasfilm Animation Singapore starts to show.
I could have been seeing things but I think Echo's scomp clipped into his head when he saluted Omega, too.
Was I the only one that thought the animation looked more stiff this episode? The lighting and art direction is solid but I agree in the animation department there are times when it's felt a little off.
Maybe it's confirmation bias but I'm hearing Tech's speech pattern behind the Clone X's distortion
Also I feel like they've only let him survive this much shit because they wanna hit with a big reveal
I hope to fricking God it's not him, Tech had a great death, very poignant and sad. To just bring him back like that, as a "hey, he's not really dead, we wasted a very great moment as a "SIKE"!" would be really stupid.
Agreed
If they can portray it as the pure atrocity it is and be left with no other option than to put him down for good it wouldn't erase the frickery but it'd be better than letting him survive as Echo 2
I've said it before, it they do bring him back, let it be as a literal Hemlock Reanimator zombie. Something that was brought back wrong and is a legitimate affront to the team where they see he is plainly dead and is a mere puppet. That the Empire made something terrible by using scientific atrocities for inhumane research.
Somehow...
I hate that phrase so damn much, because if just how moronic it was. But damn is it memeable.
Agreed
If they can portray it as the pure atrocity it is and be left with no other option than to put him down for good it wouldn't erase the frickery but it'd be better than letting him survive as Echo 2
>Thinking he'd really dead
Did you forget the golden rule where if you don't see the corpse, they aren't really dead?
I hope to fricking God it's not him, Tech had a great death, very poignant and sad. To just bring him back like that, as a "hey, he's not really dead, we wasted a very great moment as a "SIKE"!" would be really stupid.
Remember how Hemlock showed Tech's goggles to Hunter? That was him confirming that the Empire did find what remained of Tech and could've theoretically brought him back
I'm so fricking tired of this. Lightsaber stabs mean nothing, death means nothing, and Disney just keeps doing this shit. I can't even get emotional about dramatic scenes cause I know it'll mean nothing later
It would be weird for Tech to be Clone X just because he doesn't have any of the ticks of Tech. Also Crosshair said Hemlock took volunteers for the training, which would also explain why the treatment didn't work on him. Which is why I think a clone of Crosshair makes the most sense. Because Clone X's was never betrayed by the empire, so he'd be loyal, and his kit is that of crosshair's, both the sniper and helmet scope.
Plus it would be a perfect metaphorical way for Crosshair to both face and bury his past if he had to face a clone of himself that was still loyal to something he turned his back on.
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He's been made the fall guy for a very public atrocity, so he's definitely still on the map, whether he's being given a showy kangaroo court trial or already been locked away in Space Leavenworth
Anyways I don't think he's actually important in the grand scheme of the show. He was always a upper middle management guy and disposable to the story as a mid-way obstacle
The one reason you'd need him to show up again is as a possible source as to the location of Weyland, but again, I could see him as not actually being important enough to be privy to that info
My crack theory? After the Bad Batch's island home is taken over by the Empire. Lizard Lady comes crawling back with intel that she knows where Rampart is being held, so the Bad Batch go to break him out of prison to get the location of Hemlocks base and set up the final showdown.
The episode guide might name them all when it releases on the official site. The only ones new in this episode named on screen are Greer and Samson, the other two are unnamed. Fireball and Nemec already appeared in the second season.
The two ??? might have been the other prisoners with Howzer that got sprung by Echo and his crew at the end of season 2.
>The two ??? might have been the other prisoners with Howzer that got sprung by Echo and his crew at the end of season 2.
Could be unless those were Greer and Samson since they were the ones patrolling with Howzer on Pantora.
It's getting pretty late into season 3 already I'm starting to wonder if Cid will show up again. But characters from past seasons are showing up left and right for cameos so who knows. Didn't expect to see Avi Singh and Roland Durand again. The Millegi guy from the racetrack might even return for some small bit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's getting pretty late into season 3 already I'm starting to wonder if Cid will show up again.
All Cid has to do is show up and give them intel on how to find Hemlock's base and it's free because she feels guilty about betraying them for money. It could be an even shorter appearance than Singh or Durand and it's a way to jumpstart the plot since they don't have any leads and Rex's group has been decimated.
1 month ago
Anonymous
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She'd better fricking not
Not only do I never want to see her scaly ass again (except peeled from her body and nailed to a wall), there's no reason for her to contact the Batch again. She should fully expect them to ice her if they ever meet
Other way around...Maybe, if they think she could help and are desperate, but I want the squad to never speak or think of her again
tbh I think she might briefly show up to give the batch info about Hemlock based on her dealings with the Empire or some useful info and then she's killed by a clone assassin or bounty hunter like Cad Bane.
It's getting pretty late into season 3 already I'm starting to wonder if Cid will show up again. But characters from past seasons are showing up left and right for cameos so who knows. Didn't expect to see Avi Singh and Roland Durand again. The Millegi guy from the racetrack might even return for some small bit.
She'd better fricking not
Not only do I never want to see her scaly ass again (except peeled from her body and nailed to a wall), there's no reason for her to contact the Batch again. She should fully expect them to ice her if they ever meet
Other way around...Maybe, if they think she could help and are desperate, but I want the squad to never speak or think of her again
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's extremely clear she feels guilty for what she did, and she just has to contact them over their comm, not meet them in person.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nah, I want them to have her try betray them again at the behest of the Imperials only for Crosshair to shoot her.
No I thought the same with how the voice would modulate to a higher register at times. Not just that but the music too. When Clone X notices Omega in his scope there's a pause on his face and the music goes somber. It's not like a foreboding or dangerous sounding track like "oh shit they've found her" it was more "oh Tech recognizes her for a second but then locks back into assassin mode".
I hope not but it definitely has to be someone we know for sure, since I have no idea why else he would still be alive at the end of the episode
Ideally I don't want it to be Tech because I think there's been too many fakeout deaths not to mention we already did that with Echo. But I'm kind of expectin it now with how they telegraphed Clone X this episode. And the fact that he not only survived but it's likely him leading the occupation of Pabu in the trailers too. I just feel like for this guy to become a recurring villain he has to be someone and we already unmasked two of these assassins so this feels more significant.
Also if it was Tech or Cody we'd immediately recognize them as assassins. Tech looks different to any other clone and Cody has his scar.
Rex is moronic holy shit. Whole clone underground wiped out. (Was this the first time we saw clones with proper ammo pouches and rigs?)
Also filoni can't help himself with this formulaic bullshit >Ep 5 >Hey crosshair, you're an butthole >Oh wait you did something nice and we fought together, we're cool now
Ep 6 >Hey Crosshair you're an butthole >Oh wait you did something nice and we fought together, we're cool now
I'm pretty sure it's nerve damage from the conditioning attempts, not psychological
But I wouldn't be surprised if she managed to cure that too with the power of ToT
Kinda wild the writers let Wolf and his crew allow the BB to leave despite the BB clearly killing clones in the fighting and his loyalty that lasts up till his return in Rebels.
What else can they do with him after this point? If he joins the clone rebellion and wipes out tantis why still trust the empire after? Do they just ditch him, and he meanders his way to rex and gregor later? Or does he think hemlock is creating his own mini empire and justifies the rebellion as helping the empire in the long run?
What really sands my taint about the Somehow Tech Returned hypothetical is how almost his entire character has been nothing build up for several emotionally manipulative fakeouts
And given how early season 2 genuinely managed to make him my favorite of the cast, it bothers the frick out of me
A shame that similar to Clone Wars, Bad Batch hasn't really tried to develop many of the movie clones. I understand they're more invested in developing OCs like Rex, Gregor, Wolffe, Howzer etc. but cameos from commanders like Bacara and Neyo wouldn't hurt. Maybe they've been taken to Tantiss to be experimented on because they worked closely with the Jedi and started questioning orders more.
At least they did more with Cody he barely got anything in TCW. And if he turns out to be Clone X from the latest episode that'd be a tragic end for him.
You gotta remember this isn't clone wars 2, it's the bad batch. Every other character is a guest or a cameo, the show is about the 4 (formerly 5) morons plus omeeguh
The most damning thing I've heard brought up is how the Empire/Clone X turn up at Pabu
I can only conclude that mystery man (who announces himself as recently activated) is Tech and thus can offer up that planet as somewhere to look for Omega. He initially focuses only on his immediate target due to the new programming, but now being actively on Omega's trail will let him have the thought processes to remember Pabu
I'll be mad if they don't do the clone rebellion.
I WANT the final uproar of the GAR
I WANT the clones to show their superior training and experience one last time
I WANT the tragic fight that can only end in failure
I WANT to see Rex became a fat hobo on Seelos after leading his brothers in a failed uprising
We don't know what's in store past episode 8 since the press didn't get those ones to review. But that's a lot to cover in 6 20ish minute episodes. Maybe they can pull a lot of that off if they don't meander and go all in on the clone uprising in the final stretch but idk. We have Ventress too how tf does she fit into all that.
I'm a little concerned because episode 8 is apparently about Fennec Shand anf CF99 navigating some swamp planet. I assume the goal is to find out why the Empire is interested in Omega so hopefully that's resolved in the episode so it's not too fillery. Then we can actually ramp things up.
Episode 9 "The Harbinger" sounds like something important will happen in it. And after that we get another double bill with "Identity Crisis" and "Point of No Return".
A lot of people have been asking for a Rex/clone rebellion show and it does feel like they haven't done enough with him and the regs in Bad Batch. Plus that stuff with Riyo Chuchi helping the clone underground network and her meeting with the separatist senator feels like it's building to something but I'm not sure if that's for this show.
We're definitely getting more Ventress though. Her voice actor said Bad Batch is just an appetizer. Maybe that just means Tales of the Jedi type shorts though. But it could be that the next show deals with Ventress and the Hidden Path which is another theory. Alongside featuring Quinlan Vos, Maul and Crimson Dawn since those were all things built up heavily in Clone Wars. The clones could play a role in that. After liberating Tantiss they shift focus to helping Jedi survivors in the underground railroad as a way of making up for Order 66.
>There's like fricking two dozen and they're all completely unaware of one another
George Lucas claimed there were around 100 Order 66 survivors by the end of the OT. We know he changes his mind a lot but that's a decent number. But the Hidden Path doesn't just move around and hide former Jedi. They protect force sensitive kids from being taken by the Inquisitorious too, giving them and their families new identities so they can't be found. And there's no shortage of force sensitive children in the galaxy so the Hidden Path have their hands full there. Ahsoka was working to keep younglings out of the Inquisitors hands in Rebels too. So that could be a premise for the show.
We know Barriss' voice actor teased that she didn't die in Order 66 either so maybe she's part of the Hidden Path to try and atone for her crimes. We know Vos was working for them. And again. Ventress soft spot for kids and protecting them from being sold into slavery and stuff makes it a job that'd suit her too.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>100 jedi survivors by the END of the OT
This Black person is moronic and it's a wonder star wars became as popular as it did
2 months ago
Anonymous
20,000 Jedi in a galaxy of trillions during the prequels. Probably 1000 or less after the initial enactment of Order 66. 100 by the time the Inquisitorious has spent 20+ years hunting the ones who got away.
That would make Order 66 like 95% successful in eradicating all the Jedi.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The number of jedi at the time of order 66 keeps increasing every time someone mentions it. I vividly remember it being 2000.
2 months ago
Anonymous
My mistake it's been 10,000 since the prequels came out. And no it hasn't changed afaik people are just bsing you. So there being 100 survivors would make Order 66 95% successful from the get-go. George flip flopped on whether there were 100 or 50 survivors after ROTJ though. So it could be on the lower side.
The general consensus is that most survivors were on the younger side I think; younglings and padawans who's masters sacrificed themselves to help escape. There are exceptions with knights and masters scattered and in hiding but it's pretty rare to see a master surviving Order 66 in canon. Of the Jedi Council the only survivors we have are Obi-Wan, Yoda and Oppo Rancisis who is MIA. Quinlan Vos is also a master but to be fair he was so steeped in the underworld and had a bounty hunter cover identity and everything. it makes sense he'd be able to survive.
In canon apparently there are 50 named Order 66 survivors so they've stayed consistent with the facts so far provided that number doesn't balloon to 100+ as they introduce more Jedi characters.
If Ventress' pardon with the Republic holds up then yeah she could be one of the bounty hunters hired by the Empire to find Omega alongside Cad Bane probably. But she'll probably turn into an ally pretty quickly and help the Bad Batch.
Ventress' role might be similar to how they used Ahsoka in Mandalorian S2 where Ahsoka was able to give exposition about Grogu. So Ventress will hunt Omega, they'll get on good terms and she'll be able to tell her what an M-count is and about the force and stuff. Then they part ways.
Since Ventress' didn't die like in the book her fate is open for interpretation I guess. God I hope Vader chokes that b***h to death
If Ventress' pardon with the Republic holds up then yeah she could be one of the bounty hunters hired by the Empire to find Omega alongside Cad Bane probably. But she'll probably turn into an ally pretty quickly and help the Bad Batch.
Ventress' role might be similar to how they used Ahsoka in Mandalorian S2 where Ahsoka was able to give exposition about Grogu. So Ventress will hunt Omega, they'll get on good terms and she'll be able to tell her what an M-count is and about the force and stuff. Then they part ways.
or maybe fennec knows ventress and puts them in contact with her after doing a job for fennec in bad territory, and they shoot on sight because its ventress, they may not have known she got pardoned
Yeah but if she was pardoned and then pronounced dead then she wouldn't on any of the Republic-now Empire's wanted lists. Plus she could just use a pseudonym and hide her identity to take bounties from them. It's not like Boba openly advertizes being a clone.
she's not powerful enough to threaten him by herself (especially with vader now), she didnt know too much and she isnt a jedi nor wants to be one
maybe she'll get confused for a jedi due to a lightsaber but at most all I could see if the inquisitors going after her with a job offer
2 months ago
Anonymous
Palpatine could fold Ventress in about one second given how Yoda handled her in the early clone wars.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>she's not powerful enough to threaten him by herself
Palpatine literally ordered her death, because she was becoming too powerful for his comfort. If he knows she is alive, she is getting Vadered.
2 months ago
Anonymous
only because dooku was going to betray him
2 months ago
Anonymous
That doesn't change, he doesn't like any above average force user going around that are not his selected apprentice.
I was about to ask what you've been sniffing but I realized what was up
No, the training facility they rescued Gregor from is a different planet entirely from Tantiss
That's a stupid stance, man
Why are you assuming the planet is documented in the first place, much less well known?
Even if data exists on it in places the Empire couldn't have scrubbed, it's clear that the Batch can't access it
Commander Wolf? More like Cuckmander Wolf. Was dabbed on by shadow operative 3 times, and then talked down by Rex, and Omega(!), which, maybe i wrong, but he suppose to have no idea who she is beside that she is target, as he know nothing of experiments.
>uses same knife >rescues crosshair from getting choked vs. trying to choke him to death >has been suspiciously absent so far
sheit homie I think you might be right
How are they going to explain how Rex ends up the way he does in Rebels? The Empire knew in Rebels that he was alive and left him alone but here he was going against the Empire. There's just no way they would let him live after all this. The only thing I can think of is that Rex and the clones expose Mount Tantiss but Sheev pulls the same trick with Kamino being destroyed but agrees to let the clones live and retire as long as they don't bother the Empire. I have a strong feeling they're going to recton it again just like how they had Rex remove his brain chip after order 66.
He'd has to have his will to fight broken to where he just gives up first.
Also it makes sense that the Empire kept him alive to demoralize any other clones from rebelling before they're all decommissioned.
Maybe Clone X is Cody and he commits a bunch of atrocities in front of Rex.
Most likely Chuchi exposes Tantiss and pulls off the Senate uproar which will make Sheev back down and let the clones go into peaceful retirement. It will also make sense why Sheev is so hasty to finish the Death Star, so he can finally dissolve the Senate that hinders his UNLIMITED POWAH and just blow up planets of those people who disagree with him, like we see in A New Hope.
But yes, it would be better if Rebels did not exist, and if we got a Rebellion show following Bad Batch with the same tone and animation, and not what we got with Rebels. Like that scene at the beginning of Episode 7 was kino, with Separatist senator and Chuchi conspiring in total secrecy, while some black ops Imperial operative comes to take them out. This is the Rebellion show I was hoping for, not Rebels.
There is no tension when it comes to Rex, Wolffe and Gregor, since we know they all live, so they should at least be willing to kill off most of the Bad Batch, sans Omega and probably Crosshair. If they all live and it's just Chuchi exposing Tantiss to the Senate, then it will be anticlimactic as hell.
You'd think the emperor would be able to gank Chuchi by now.
Chuchi mentions that the Emperor at this stage in his reign can't strike out openly at them but he can if he has a reason to. If the Empire can prove she's working with a rebel cell to undermine them they can go after her. Depends on whether she gets really sloppy though. Bail was able to get away with it for years and so was Mon Mothma but you can see the shit she's pulling in Andor to keep it under wraps. And the Organas are pretty secretive about their rebel activities until nearer ANH as well.
But I think with the way Chuchi's surrounding herself with clones on Coruscant and Pantora, colluding with former Separatists and openly trying to expose the Empire's crimes against them in the senate too, I think Palpatine could use her to set an example. Since this so early after ROTS it'd be a good way to scare the rest of the senate shitless.
They're clearly setting her up as the political face of this clone uprising, she's not coming out of this unscathed.
I don't know how to explain. There is nothing ridiculous like the worst parts of TCW, but the first half of Rebels is just so forgettable.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't know how to explain
Then you shouldn't have an opinion because you are a simpleton.
2 months ago
Anonymous
What is there to say? I could go on on why the virus arc from TCW is stupid, but Rebels is just bland "go do mission somewhere, some stormtroopers will shoot and miss every time and everything will be ok in the end", with Ezra being an annoying kid the whole time.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Black person what, the first half of Rebels is the Vader kino
2 months ago
Anonymous
There are cool moments here and there, but it's mostly bland.
The real bullshit was the empire not glassing the Lothar after their giant command base that controlled the planet got blown up killing every imperial and Thrawn and his fleet got kidnapped by space whales. >But mum death star got destroyed! Empire is busy!
Bullshit, you can get together a few star destroyers and have them bombard the planet for a few days. Rebellion symbol crushed.
Disney canned Clone Wars to make a low budget Kids show thats 90% filler. They also killed the Grand Inquisitor in the first season which is kind of lame when Kanan is a scrub and then the upcoming Inquistors are just lame.
Anything in Disneywars coasts off the good spirit and creativity of stuff created during the Lucas era and they promptly shit on it anytime they could get including that awful last season of Clone Wars they brought back to milk where 4 of the episodes included space mexican feminists.
Its also clear disney wanted them to copy the style and setting of a New Hope while also having a diversity politics casts forced into rebels and anywhere they can throw into star wars.
the real question is why do many consider it BETTER than TCW? >failed to imitate the style they were going for >worse than tcw season 1 quality animation despite just coming off tcw's later seasons >coasts on TCW characters, only Kanan and Hera were considered well written even by people who liked the show >plot is glue for pretty much any other media in star wars rather than their own
They only found their footing as a TCW final season by closing their arcs like for ahoska and vader, maul, Rex, hondo etc. Take those out and the show is really lacking.
I'l give it points for Luminara, and Vader first meeting the rebels, but everything after that is TCW extension or bad filler.
To me it's like Filoni is emulating Avatar The Last Airbender in Star Wars but without the budget or scope. But some people liked that because it follows a set group of characters from start to finish and it's a pretty traditional Rebels vs Empire story with Jedi in animation. Then TCW fans generally liked the callbacks to that show too. It's not hard to see the appeal.
Clone Wars was an anthology series so that wasn't everyone's thing. And as much as I liked and preferred it they could've done more with the characters on that. A lot of arcs only scratch the surface. Rebels because it didn't have the budget focused on the characters a lot more which lends itself to a lot of filler type episodes.
The show tells enough of it's own story when it comes to Kanan and Ezra I think. It's more Sabine and Hera that build off of Clone Wars stuff and have less of an arc. Sabine especially was a mess. Late into season 3 when they train her with the darksaber it felt like they started to nail down her character and with Ahsoka she's improved. But before that I think she was a mary sue in a lot of the ways people complained about Rey.
>they started to nail down her character and with Ahsoka she's improved
nobody improved in the ahoska show if that's what youre suggesting. unless you mean the character in rebels then maybe (I hate D-SW titles so fricking much)
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nah they made Sabine more flawed in the live action Ahsoka series, leaned into her stubbornness and had her fail a lot. Made her more like a younger Anakin or Ahsoka to fit that master apprentice dynamic she has with Ahsoka now. They started to get into that late into Rebels with Trials of the Darksaber but for most of that show Sabine was just bland and good at everything.
Sabine is a rare instance where I prefer her live action version over her animated one.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>leaned into her stubbornness
And the story rewards her for it every time. >and had her fail a lot
And in classical Mary Sue fashion, even her failures are beneficial. Even when she's ambushed and outgunned, she just lets herself get shot over and over again like Mando until she stumbles into killing everyone effortlessly.
If you like anything about Asoka, you should be compelled to post under a tripcode so people know to disregard literally everything you say.
1 month ago
Anonymous
homie, did we watch the same show here? Sabine was just like her cartoon self, but with the added "oh, now she can use the Force!" bullshit.
Sabine is flawed in Ahsoka. Her stubbornness is clearly something Ahsoka is wary of and that'll be explored in the next season as her strength in the force grows. Her commitment to finding Ezra got her that far but now they're trapped in another galaxy so she was rewarded and then punished. Frick sake Luke's failures are beneficial, he offered himself to the Emperor to help his friends and nearly died and it was Vader that pulled him out of that. You're just being selective about it with the "muh mary sue" bs.
Ahsoka's not a great show but Sabine's arc is fine in the tradition of past SW heroes. Not to mention her whole family was nuked. "Ah but such a mary sue everything works out for her". She's living in Ezra's old house wallowing in the past with her cat. She's basically pulling a TLJ Luke Skywalker.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sabine gives the star map to Thrawn to find Ezra >assuring that Thrawn gets back into the regular galaxy >AKA, the thing Ezra didn't want done in the first place and made his sacrifice in the series finale worthless
Somehow Luke sacrificing himself to the Emperor is comparable to that? You know what anon, get a trip so I can block you like that other anon said, because you legit think Sabine got better in the Ahsoka series because she has "flaws"?
>verification not required
1 month ago
Anonymous
>asking for people to use trips to block them
absolutely seething, this isn't twitter.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I just don't want to see your moronic bullshit being spewed, simple as.
1 month ago
Anonymous
homie, did we watch the same show here? Sabine was just like her cartoon self, but with the added "oh, now she can use the Force!" bullshit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
when exactly did she fail?
She got stabbed by a saber through the gut and healed in like a day. She literally gave the bad guys a method to reach the uber bad and let him leave because 'muh friend' and helped him leave, what trapped on a planet we know she'll leave is a failure now?. Then got the force because why not add a 20th item to her resume.
Interesting premise, the fledgling beginnings of the Rebellion against the Empire with a mercenary group who were at first doing their own thing and it slowly morphed into them becoming members of the Rebellion proper, and then it just became TCW cameos and old storylines they wanted finished so it got shoved into Rebels. The Ghost Crew became obnoxiously plot armored to the point it became a chore to watch because, unless the antagonist was Vader, Tarkin or Thrawn(and I will b***h about him soon), the GC absolutely trashed any imperial opposing force like wet paper. At a certain point, it's not fun seeing the bad guys lose that fricking easily. Especially when the show consistently made the imperials a bunch of fools.
>Oh but the movies!!!
You mean the movies that are two hours long and have to make a cohesive story in that time? And Rebels was a TV show with over 70+, 22 minute episodes that combined is probably over a day of showtime? The writers just couldn't write and needed the crutch of old characters from past movies and shows to try and get people to continue watching.
>Thrawn
Thrawn became a typical "Failing was a part of my plan/Saturday cartoon villain" where the writers really wanted him to be smart, but they themselves weren't smart enough to write him and he was kind of a waste, compared to his EU counterpart.
I know I sound like a hater, but I did genuinely enjoy the first season but became disappointed that it devolved into the slog it became later on. Also, I didn't mind the animation, I grew up with late 90s early 2000s 3D, and the vistas and background art was pretty to loom at. The writing just became exceedingly boring and the GC plot armor was too damn thick. The Grand Inquisitor was wasted and he should have been their enemy later on, not season one and then done.
I have a feeling that things go fairly well but either most of the cast dies in the process or everyone lives, maybe rex doesn't call on the bad batch later because they finished their fight and needed to raise the kid. But seeing how there paradise island is gonna get sacked, I doubt anyone will survive.
Most likely Chuchi exposes Tantiss and pulls off the Senate uproar which will make Sheev back down and let the clones go into peaceful retirement. It will also make sense why Sheev is so hasty to finish the Death Star, so he can finally dissolve the Senate that hinders his UNLIMITED POWAH and just blow up planets of those people who disagree with him, like we see in A New Hope.
But yes, it would be better if Rebels did not exist, and if we got a Rebellion show following Bad Batch with the same tone and animation, and not what we got with Rebels. Like that scene at the beginning of Episode 7 was kino, with Separatist senator and Chuchi conspiring in total secrecy, while some black ops Imperial operative comes to take them out. This is the Rebellion show I was hoping for, not Rebels.
There is no tension when it comes to Rex, Wolffe and Gregor, since we know they all live, so they should at least be willing to kill off most of the Bad Batch, sans Omega and probably Crosshair. If they all live and it's just Chuchi exposing Tantiss to the Senate, then it will be anticlimactic as hell.
Realistically it's incompatible with Rebels, not him retiring but the Empire knowing that he is Captain Rex and not immediately sending a death squad. Clones like Rex and Howzer have too strong a sense of justice to not try and fight the empire every chance they get.
Beyond that Rex is a terrorist whose crimes include.
>Killing imperial soldiers >Killing officers of the imperial navy >Aiding in defection of clones >Destruction of billions of credits worth of imperial property >Aiding rebel groups >Colluding with Jedi
In Rebels the officer wouldn't offer him a chance to train cadets if this is semi public knowledge. He'd tell him he's singlehandedly a major reason why the empire got rid of Fett Clones. Rex hiding in plain sight does make sense though. All Clones look the same and not all Clones defected, a lot just became sad hobos like pic related. So a founding member of the rebel alliance being literally beneath notice to most imperials is smart.
The problem here is the Empire knew exactly where Rex and his crew were in Rebels because Wolf was sending them transmissions whenever he thought he found a Jedi to the point they thought he was full of shit whenever he sent them a message.
Something must have happened where Rex lost his will to fight, and the Empire decided it was better to keep him alive than kill him.
>Something must have happened where Rex lost his will to fight, and the Empire decided it was better to keep him alive than kill him.
But that's really out of character for the empire. Rex has defected, destroyed infrastructure, and has presumably lead assaults on imperial bases. If Rex doesn't give up the fight at the end of Bad Batch then he'd become a boogeyman for low ranking imperials and the perfect piece of propaganda for why the Clones were fazed out.
The fact that Wolffe felt comfortable enough to call the empire even if he still hated Jedi is also illogical based on Bad Batch because as much as he hated Jedi. He knows the Empire still would realistically want his two roommates dead unless he's gone completely senile and doesn't remember that they're fugitives. Granted that'd be fricking hilarious, but he's not depicted as a senile old coot in Rebels.
The only way for Rex in Rebels to make sense is if Vader spares and pardons Rex as a way to make him suffer
>He knows the Empire still would realistically want his two roommates dead unless he's gone completely senile and doesn't remember that they're fugitives
>Wolffe is completely senile >Wolffe is barely even friends with Rex and Gregor >Wolffe is one of the few clones who was still radically pro imperial after being laid off >also delusional >would report Jedi 24/7 >would show up to the nearest stormtrooper barracks dragging in a random clone he found with light hair once a week >his rationale being that he has captured Captain Rex >because of this the Empire doesn't believe him when he says he has Captain Rex and Gregor in his house and they're making secret plots with a Jedi on the holophone >he's said shit like this for over a decade >somehow relationship becomes affable >still tries to report them occasionally
It makes sense as a 4d chess move by Palpatine, because what would be better, just killing off Rex, or keeping him alive to demoralize any other would be clone rebellions?
Sure Ezra unfukced him, but before that, he was serving the Empire's means pretty well
It's Ughmegah + Batcher + 1 most likely. Hunter giving me huge death flags given how Crosshair has effectively taken over the caretaker role, so he can bite the dust knowing that Crosshair will protect her. Wrecker should go blow himself up or something. Echo should die because he's not with Rex in Rebels, despite Gregor being with him. Although the writers haven't done ANYTHING with Echo in 3 seasons, which sucks.
You'd think the emperor would be able to gank Chuchi by now.
homie couldn't gank Bail Organa for 20 years, a known Jedi sympathizer and borderline open dissident. Had to blow up his fricking planet.
>Genetic material extraction and experimentation on Omega before disposing her like a used...
while we saw that a shot in the arm was satisfactory to getting the material they needed, how could it have been made more terrifying or violating for her being captured to drive home how ruthless and evil the empire is.
no holding back..
given her Escape, Omega better be afraid at a second go around, with probably no Nala Se to protect her either. How pissed and embarrassed Hemlock and other imperials tasked to deal with her must be
>why do the TKs suck? They're being trained by commandos!
this happens irl too, just because spec force trains 10 bum frick farmers for a week or 2 wont make them much better than if a regular grunt trained them. I love how the show tried to hand wave it by saying 'well gregor didn't like them so he (and probably all commandos) trained them wrong'.
If they do a raid on Tantiss, what would you like to see?
I think it would be interesting if somehow the Bad Batch hacks and takes control of a CIS Core ship or a Lucrehulk or something and suddenly hyperjumps to the planet.
I feel like it would beinteresting to see battledroids and clones fighting together against the empire proper. But sadly that wont happen due to rexs response to seeing battledroids in rebels
>If they do a raid on Tantiss, what would you like to see?
Exposing Project Necromancer and what it's aims are, and what exactly is in that backroom with the Ur-Kittat writing on the ground.
Hopefully people like Wolffe can change the minds of Scorch and the other clones on Tantiss and we can see the clones break free from the Empire completely, but in all honestly its probably not gonna go very well.
We sort of had that already in S1 briefly with the droids helping the clones escape on Corellia and obviously there was the Rebels episode with Kalani.
I just want Clone Wars 2.0. Clones vs clones. Class war of the regs and 99s fighting against the commandos who seem to think they're superior to the rest.
It was also implied he removed his chip before Order 66 in Rebels so it's a bit of a clusterfrick either way. But from a certain point of view he didn't betray Ahsoka I guess and he is working with Chuchi who's an imperial senator.
I mean, he technically was working with the Empire for like an hour
I feel the one thing that fricks up Star Wars (mostly the spin-offs) is the insistence in telling the story out of chronological order while keeping the same few characters at the same age.
At this point they should spread out into the past and future, and not try to tie everything into the Skywalker saga
I'm just here to say I watched two seasons of this show only to be massively disappointed.
I guess all I wanted to say is I really desperately needed to see clones operating operationally and only felt like it was going to keep teasing the idea of it.
Why are they not doing a series in this animation style following the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia in the immediate aftermath of RotJ? Does Disney hate money?
I wonder if they are under some kind of mandate that forbids from using OT protagonists as more than cameo.
But making such a series set after RotJ is a mistake, I wanna see a TCW style series where Vader gets to show up often, so make it between episodes 4 and 6.
I think there's just a reluctance to use those characters outside of big movies. And even then the sequels had different leads it wasn't all on the legacy characters.
Nah without George I think Filoni and co are afraid of making a series about major saga characters. They tend to be more cameos or supporting roles like Luke in Mando. A lot of the time now they make stories with OCs with legacy characters sprinkled in.
I wonder if they are under some kind of mandate that forbids from using OT protagonists as more than cameo.
But making such a series set after RotJ is a mistake, I wanna see a TCW style series where Vader gets to show up often, so make it between episodes 4 and 6.
I think there's just a reluctance to use those characters outside of big movies. And even then the sequels had different leads it wasn't all on the legacy characters.
Nah without George I think Filoni and co are afraid of making a series about major saga characters. They tend to be more cameos or supporting roles like Luke in Mando. A lot of the time now they make stories with OCs with legacy characters sprinkled in.
I always felt like they seemed too apprehensive about using the classic three. Luke should've been doing so much, that's the case in Legends, but he's had hardly any appearances since Disney took over. Is Luke just "too important" to casually use? They'll use Anakin a lot in their shows, but not Luke
I know that they wrote themselves into a corner with nothing Luke did meaning anything, but they could at least show his early stuff before it all falls apart. Honestly I think a show about Luke's jedi temple where it shows Han and Leia as a happy couple and Luke trains Kylo Ren would really help the sequels be a bit more palatable.
Honestly, if the ST just had Luke lose half of his Jedi Order, like he left due to the New Republic needing his input on some matter and that's when Ben/Kylo went on his rampage and Luke came back during the middle of it and stopped it but Kylo escaped, and Luke made his Jedi Order even more hidden to the point Luke himself asked his remaining Jedi leadership to not tell him about where his students are until he finds out why Ben betrayed everyone and who shown him the Sith ways. And we see Luke during TLJ doing Jedi Meditation and doing some research on who he thinks Snoke is, it would have been a hell of a lot better than, "Oh Luke is a hermit after losing his entire Order and all the jedi he trained are dead!" the ST made him and his accomplishments become.
Same with the New Republic, didn't have to destroy the whole thing, just weaken it so the First Order could have an easier time in controlling a good swath of the known Galaxy instead of being in the Unknown Regions this whole time.
>would really help the sequels be a bit more palatable.
Please stop with this mentality. A show can't fix a shit movie no matter how good it is or how hard you try.
TCW didn't fix the prequels and no show can ever fix the sequels, all they do is rub on your face with how good those movies could have been.
Things can't get any worse for the sequels.
I'd rather them bite the bullet and actually do something with it rather than this dancing around it they've done for years with Mandolorian, Ahsoka, and Bad Batch somewhat hinting at it but not really
Either get rid of the sequels entirely or stick to your guns and actually try to make something of it. These half measures of bleeding the old nostalgia dry are just causing the franchise to stagnate.
There is nothing to be done with the sequels, they are just a roadblock that doesn't allow the story to progress after RotJ.
The only options that could give something that isn't shit right now it to make stuff set before RotJ or make a new Episode 7, but the latter is probably too much of a radical decision for Disney after they invested so much money into the sequels.
>There is nothing to be done with the sequels
Luke is dead, Leia is dead, Han is dead and sure, Chewie, Lando and the droids are around but those characters aren't really the same without the rest of OG cast, nobody really cares for Rey and it's doubtful we'll see Finn again after they screwed Boyega over, any new "threat" they bring in now will only get shit on, also I've noticed lately they keep saying they're still working on Rey's new jedi order movie but have nothing to show for it, wouldn't surprise me if it gets cancelled.
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Notice how the Sequels didn't get a single show since the Resistance cartoon. It's a fricking worthless reboot that killed off any good will with the OT fans. Right now they're killing off the good will of the prequels/TCW fans with Ahsoka, and in the end the brand as a whole will be fricked.
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Anonymous
>killed off any good will with the OT fans.
Ironic because the films were designed to appeal to the OT fans so much with nostalgia that they had no identity of their own and so no uniqueness to work with
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The Force Awakens was OT nostalgia at it's worst. Most didn't notice the giant holes in that movie because it all felt familiar.
Abrams wanted so hard to make A New Hope again he ended up actually pulling the story back to ANH, and the franchise has been ruined since then. Rian was just an butthole who danced on it's grave.
I think its interesting as its clear they are looking to tie everything together, its important to note that the entirety of the clone wars and culmination of the revenge of the sith is 2-3 years, it stands to reason that the last season of bad batch might be 1.5 years after revenge of the sith.
Someone posted a comparison screencap but otherwise it just a "hey neat, it's Teth"
Now if they wanted kineaux, they'd have had a good AA gun at the base or something and forced the Imperials to assault the monastery by climbing up the spire to have a reverse of the CW pilot movie
As it was, the river fight was awesome but separated itself from the defining feature of Teth, that being the verticality of the bases
hmmmm
Someone shoop the font into an IT'S OVER for that Crosshar looking down at his helmet
Apparently they haven't been using this studio for animation in some time so it's not just that. Doing all the animation in-house though could've been what paved the way to this though.
First one you replied to has one of the troopers disappearing as they turn to the side as they walk in.
Second one has Wolffe's gun disappear after he takes it out of his holster.
The first one, there are two clone commandos walking into the room. The first one vanishes right as it walks past Omega's model.
The second one, Wolffe grabs a gun out of his holster. As soon as the troopers run past him, he isn't holding any gun and there is no gun in his hand, even though his hand is clearly rigged into a gun holding pose.
the only one I noticed was batcher's placement in this episode when they arrived at rex's base. she's more forward and obvious at one point, but then the "camera" changes and she's not there anymore. only when they "zoom out" and everyone starts walking off do you see her again but she's farther back than she was just a moment ago
Not exactly an error but my favorite one is Pre Vizsla wearing a poncho in Voyage of Temptation to hide that he's wearing clone trooper armor because they hadn't modelled the Death Watch suit yet. And before that it was going to be Dooku because they didn't even have the helmet at first.
Yeah I think this and Cargo of Doom were made at the same time as season 1 so not all the assets were built yet. In hindsight that kind of explains why they sent battle droids to attack Satine's ship and not the Death Watch too.
Considering the stress of knowing Sheev would love to disappear her ass if he got the chance, she should look a lot worse than maybe getting too much greasy takeout from Dex's
I might just be extrapolating from her short stature during her first appearance, but given that people are apparently allowed to become senators as teenagers, it's entirely possible that she wasn't even an adult at the start of her career.
Nah she was 16-18 minimum. You don't morph into this in 1.5 years with different nose, lips, face shape. They just made her uglier cause she was too pretty for the current year.
I still don't get why Sabine's entire family is dead when they don't even live on Mandalore and live on some snow forest planet. I can see some of her kin dying on Mandalore during its purge, but everyone dying is just really unbelievable and they just wanted further angst for this character, just for the sake of it.
was anicyworldin theOuter Rim Territories'Mandalore sector,coldand covered in snow.Mountainousterrain and evergreenforestscomprised much of Krownest's frigid landscape, and itsatmosphereproved breathable tohumans. A planet underMandaloriangovernance, Krownest was the ancestral home ofClan Wren, a legendary Mandalorian family whosewarriorspossessed astrongholdon the snowy world, built along the edge of a frozenlake.
Anon is wrong about it being a moon, but he is right that it is in the Mandalore system and that the Empire raped that entire system. They snuffed out Mandalorians everywhere they could find them since they were the only army with the will and strength to challenge the Empire head-to-head
Anon is wrong about it being a moon, but he is right that it is in the Mandalore system and that the Empire raped that entire system. They snuffed out Mandalorians everywhere they could find them since they were the only army with the will and strength to challenge the Empire head-to-head
You guys are aware that Mandalore conquered at least 2000 planets over thousands of years, right? Remember the neutral worlds that Satine claimed to represent? It was all Mandalore's old holdings. This is why Clan Wren exists. They're the descendants of the war orphans that Mandalore created when they came to conquer Krownest. These are supposedly what most Mandalorians are apart from the ones who can trace their direct bloodlines to Mandalore, like Clans Vizsla and Kryze. > They snuffed out Mandalorians everywhere they could find them
You don't know that. For all we know, there are quite a number of clans who survived the night of a thousand tears or never even participated in it in the first place and openly live and still occupy the worlds they've been living on the entire time. >since they were the only army with the will and strength to challenge the Empire head-to-head
Mandalorians were never strong enough to fight the Empire head to head. Even with a united front. Put up a good fight? Sure. But the Empire's resources and numbers far outmatched the combined might of the Mandalorian clans.
But in all seriousness, what is this guy's endgame and what's his actual plan here? Also, does Hemlock know that the Emperor is force sensitive or is "m-count reading" just vague enough to a scientist to look for, but not go further into it?
He seems to me like one of those goal oriented, morale lacking scientists, who never ask if something should be done, only how it can be done.
And you know damn well what sorta hentai he is into, based on how his last research facility turned into a tentacle hive.
Other than Palpatine and his apprentices, nobody outside of the Jedi knew what a Sith was, so his inner circle of people, with the exception of ministers that would handle ancient history stuff, like the guy in Rebels, would know or care and would think that Palpatine just has a fascination with historical curios.
Obviously Hemlock is part of the small segment of people who Sheev has shared information with
The man wouldn't give a shit about the Emperor being a evil wizard, in fact it's probably a bonus in his eyes knowing he has Sheev's support for all sorts of fricked up experiments
Also his hard drive is DEFINITELY full of holonet Kaminussy pics and creepshots from Nala Se's prison cell
He's probably in Hemlock's lab, playing in the titular role of "Poor little Imperial Officer volume 3, Backdoor tentacle fun Part 2." Bro is not having a great time.
He's probably in Hemlock's lab, playing in the titular role of "Poor little Imperial Officer volume 3, Backdoor tentacle fun Part 2." Bro is not having a great time.
He's been made the fall guy for a very public atrocity, so he's definitely still on the map, whether he's being given a showy kangaroo court trial or already been locked away in Space Leavenworth
Anyways I don't think he's actually important in the grand scheme of the show. He was always a upper middle management guy and disposable to the story as a mid-way obstacle
The one reason you'd need him to show up again is as a possible source as to the location of Weyland, but again, I could see him as not actually being important enough to be privy to that info
>Rampart tells Crosshair in season 2 that Cody went AWOL >Never see Cody again >Cody is not with Rex's rebel cell >Gets into a personal fight with Crosshair >Survives stuff this episode when the rogue clones that were with Rex survived much less >Uses the same knife Cody used in season 2 and uses it just as competently
Whoever this operative is, it's not a new character it's a clone that we already "know" and Cody makes the most sense, setups some emotional conflict for Crosshair and it's better than the alternative of it being Tech, let Tech stay squashed under that railcar.
the clone operative tried choking/drowning crosshair, when previously cody saved crosshair from getting choked out by a droid. I definitely think the safe money is on him.
>Project Necromancer wasn't referring to bringing back Palpatine >It was actually about reviving Tech because Palpatine enjoyed the race he did and wanted to bring him back to be the official Imperial racer
Why didn't he think to interrogate the operative they captured OUTSIDE of their main base? or better yet, wait until they get more manpower before taking blatant risks like that.
I wish they'd use more obscure clone designs, like paratroopers or some of the unused designs for ROTS, like picrelated. The show has only used regular phase 2 and commandos. And Wolffe has BARC helmet, I suppose, but he's the only one.
At this point the Bad Batch only seem to run into standard clones who're like the mooks for the Empire. They could've made Mayday a cold weather trooper but that would've defeated the point of the plot there.
Commander Faie would be cool though. I think he's been made canon but he's not appeared in any actual stories since then.
I wish they'd use more obscure clone designs, like paratroopers or some of the unused designs for ROTS, like picrelated. The show has only used regular phase 2 and commandos. And Wolffe has BARC helmet, I suppose, but he's the only one.
That helmet's shit so it's never going to appear anywhere. Additionally, the odds of us seeing new Clone Trooper variations is diminishing by the second.
>That helmet's shit so it's never going to appear anywhere
That's your opinion. Doesn't inform anything. Pretty sure the design is based on Ralph McQuarrie concept art like the TK troopers too so it's not far off from that and they used those in Bad Batch. Also we just got clone assassins. They can easily introduce new clone types in season 3 if they want.
We need to see what "the cavalry" in the finale consists of and how many clones actually join this uprising. They might end up bringing in a lot of it different variants.
>That's your opinion. Doesn't inform anything.
Except it does because the helmet has not been seen anywhere other than maybe classic Battlefront 2. >Pretty sure the design is based on Ralph McQuarrie concept art
Four out of five designs used in Star Wars are based on concept art from 1977, that doesn't mean anything, and a design isn't automatically good just because it's 50 years old. >Also we just got clone assassins.
Just because the True Believers are related to the plot. >They can easily introduce new clone types in season 3 if they want.
No, they can't because the Clones are being phased out and there is zero reason for the Empire to design a brand new Clone Trooper variation when they don't expect the Clones to be around for much longer. >We need to see what "the cavalry" in the finale consists of
Are you slow something? They're going to be Clone Troopers in Phase II armor. Maybe some Arc Troopers if they aren't all already dead. Maybe some Clone Commandos. Helmet variations for named commanders like Wolffe.
Why are you being so aggressively pedantic? I thought Faie would be a nice inclusion along with other clone commanders if they show up like Wolffe or join Rex's network towards the finale to take Tantiss. And Faie with his clone engineer armor has been made canon and even got a bust. It's not new from a continuity standpoint they'd just be showing a clone variant we haven't had on screen before in TCW. And I'm sure there were many like that. Literally the latest episodes introduced four new clones with unique paint jobs and killed them in quick succession. Not to mention Howzer who was on Ryloth but we'd never met him before in TCW. So there's nothing stopping them from introducing more new clones and armors in S3. Really I don't see what point you're trying to make.
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Anonymous
>Why are you being so aggressively pedantic?
Why are you being such a pussy over a Clone Trooper helmet that's worse than every other Clone Trooper helmet that has appeared in any piece of relevant Star Wars media? >It's not new from a continuity standpoint they'd just be showing a clone variant we haven't had on screen before in TCW
It's not about the fact that Clones are still around in this time period, it's about the fact that the Clones aren't going to be around anymore, and if they aren't going to be around anymore, we wouldn't see any new Clone Trooper armors that would all have been made during Republic times in a show set during the beginning of the Empire's rule. >And I'm sure there were many like that.
Doesn't matter because The Bad Batch is about the Stormtrooper curb-stomping the Phase II Clone Armor helmet. The show is going to have a bad end for the Clones and showing new Clone Trooper variants is off-message. >Literally the latest episodes introduced four new clones with unique paint jobs
New paint jobs, not brand new designs. >Not to mention Howzer who was on Ryloth but we'd never met him before in TCW
Howzer doesn't have new armor. You are now moving goalposts because you stopped talking about new Clone Trooper designs and began talking about new Clone Troopers, and it's obvious we're going to see Clone Troopers we haven't seen before, we're just not going to see any Clone Trooper designs that haven't appeared in TCW in The Bad Batch.
And also, where are the ARF troopers? Where are all the ARC troopers?
Rex's clones were cool with all the tacticool pouches and shit, but they were just phase 2 recolors. Add more variety.
ARFs are Phase I designs and don't exist after season 3 or whenever TCW stopped using Phase I armor clones.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>ARFs are Phase I designs and don't exist after season 3 or whenever TCW stopped using Phase I armor clones.
Incorrect.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I forgot about the dog dudes, they look like such shit there I was right in forgetting about their existance, I'm glad we don't see them again and I'm glad they won't show up in The Bad Batch.
1 month ago
Anonymous
lmao you're such a contrarian b***h, Smells like a LARP tbh
1 month ago
Anonymous
>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T THINK THAT THIS DESIGN LOOKS BAD! YOU MUST BE PRETENDING
wew lad
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Anonymous
But Wolffe still has his unique armor same as Cody albeit with a different coat of paint . Why couldn't more clone commanders we didn't see in TCW show up with their unique looks like Faie or Neyo? On top of acting like an ass for no reason your argument doesn't make any sense. You're just looking for any way to disagree with people. I'm done here.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>But Wolffe still has his unique armor same as Cody albeit with a different coat of paint
Are you being disingenuous or are you actually stupid? All Clone Trooper armors, as they appeared in TCW or Episode 3, are free game for appearing in TBB. I said we're not going to see any armors we haven't seen before. I'm sorry you have trouble reading wordy posts, and I should have played down to your moronation.
lmao you're such a contrarian b***h, Smells like a LARP tbh
>heh, you're just pretending when you say that this variation of this helmet looks bad!
Right.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I said we're not going to see any armors we haven't seen before.
And you have no grounds to base this on. You just decided you don't like that idea and have been arguing the point.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>And you have no grounds to base this on.
You're see that I do if you didn't get actually upset when reading my posts. We're not going to see any brand new Clone Trooper armors because the Empire has no reason to make new Clone Trooper armors. The Clone Operatives don't even look like Clone Troopers, they don't serve that role, and they're part of the new era that's coming. You're now projecting becaue you think I don't like Clone Troopers because I said the dog handler ARF helmet looks bad.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>We're not going to see any brand new Clone Trooper armors because the Empire has no reason to make new Clone Trooper armors.
You moron the armors I'm talking about wouldn't have been made under the Empire. Neyo's armor is Republic era. So is Faie's. Same with Wolffe and Cody. The variants wouldn't be new in-universe.
>You're now projecting becaue you think I don't like Clone Troopers because I said the dog handler ARF helmet looks bad.
You think everyone who disagrees with you is samegayging? That wasn't me and neither were all of picrel. Idk what dog you have in this race that's made you this argumentative about some damn clone armor but get your autistic ass over it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Stop trying to impersonate me. You're just a hater and you hate clone troopers.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You moron the armors I'm talking about wouldn't have been made under the Empire. Neyo's armor is Republic era. So is Faie's. Same with Wolffe and Cody. The variants wouldn't be new in-universe.
Because thematically The Bad Batch isn't the show to show off new Clone trooper variants. You're making this about The Clone Wars in general when it's clearly not.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Because thematically The Bad Batch isn't the show to show off new Clone trooper variants.
The show is more about clones than Clone Wars was. It's literally about what happens to them and the Bad Batch when faced with being made irrelevant by the Empire. So to focus on the clone army and all their different commanders would make sense. Especially when we're building to an assault on Tantiss and a clone uprising of some kind. This isn't a stormtrooper TK show first and foremost even if they are an element of it.
And why would you be in a Bad Batch general if you don't like clones and don't want more of them anyway? Weird mindset.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The show is more about clones than Clone Wars was.
The show is about the end of the Clone era. Showing off new Clone armors goes against those themes, especially when there are 375 designs used in TCW that would evoke more emotion than just seeing the Engineer Clone Trooper helmet appear out of the blue. >And why would you be in a Bad Batch general if you don't like clones and don't want more of them anyway
Where are you getting this from? Everyone that disagree with you must hate everything you like? What? Just because The Bad Batch's finale is obviously going to be a bad ending for the Clone Troopers you think I don't like Clones? Are you actually moronic?
1 month ago
Anonymous
lmao you're such a contrarian b***h, Smells like a LARP tbh
wow you are actually moronic.
1 month ago
Anonymous
lmao you're such a contrarian b***h, Smells like a LARP tbh
I'm surprised there's been no scout troopers. Razor and Stak were part of Lightning Squadron under Commander Ponds and Mace Windu on Ryloth, they'd be a cool throwback. Or Rancor Battalion.
Kek, its hilarious to me imagining Hemlock fiending for some Kaminoan strange. >Omega will be found, Nala Se, and you will be punished for your involvement in her escape >... >Are we still going to have weird, kinky sexual intercourse like we do every night, Dr. Hemlock? >You've lost dick privileges for a week, missy >her face when
Hemlock's voice is normally soft, but he sounded extra caring when he first spoke to Nala Se when they met in that prison. God knows what those two were up to during the Clone Wars, long nights in the lab, frustrations and elation. Shit happens.
It's probably just me living vicariously through Hemlock, but I'd just think it'd be funny if he does have a soft spot for Kaminoan puss, Nala Se's in particular.
The idea of a mad scientist and his phlegmatic Kaminoan gf pretty much just ignoring the rest of the galaxy while researching, experimenting and fricking in their hidden laboratory together does sounds pretty kino.
>Hemlocks advances in the field of cloning has nothing to do with Palpatine and he uses it as a front for funding, he just wants to see if he can make Emerie have big breasts
>Big breasts on humans >When he could be making even thicker Kaminoan females
Nah, human women probably doesn't even make his dick twitch. Hemlock has been Kaminoanpilled and has lost all arousal for human flesh.
I'd give him 3 days before Hemlock makes a breathy speech about how he was too quick to make punishments while in duress and how they can both work together to find Omega, but first they have to make a detour to his laboratory for "health screenings" first.
Not really, and that's irrelevant anyway. Appo was a Sergeant when Rex was a Captain. Appo was then in charge of the 501st, since Rex was appointed in charge of the 332nd at the end of the war. Given that Rex is an ex-501st commander, you'd think he would try to reach out to some of his old guys, or at least mention them. But 501st weren't even mentioned in the show. And Echo was also once a part of the 501st. Oh well.
Why don't you frick off already? Why wouldn't you want to see more clone troopers in Star Wars? There's no reason for them to show up because they were around before.
>But 501st weren't even mentioned in the show
Because the 501st are Vader's guys and are being used by Vader. If they changed that you guys would seethe.
Rex was created because they didn't want to use Alpha and presumably Appo. Similar to Ahsoka originally being Ashla from Attack of the Clones.
A lot of the 501st members Rex was close with he probably took with him to Mandalore as part of the 332nd. Jesse was there and Ridge who was part of the battle of Teth in the movie. So if most of Rex's brothers in arms went down with that Venator and the rest of the 501st is closely tied to Vader and his missions it's probably hard to find more of them to join.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Appo
He's alive. >However, their encounter with Organa distracted the clones from the approaching surviving Padawan Zett Jukassa, who managed to kill and wound several soldiers including Appo who was struck down in the lower leg by the apprentice's lightsaber.
Just wounded.
Even if they're Jango template (which I feel the jury is still out on) they just...exist. No commentary or anything, and they have their own personalities and stories fitting in with the rest. Plus Emerie is attractive looking and Omega is cute. You'd have to be set on finding some small nitpick to be mad about to actually get mad at their gender rather than something like finding Omega's personality itself annoying
Omega is less obnoxious than Ahsoka or Ezra could come across in their first seasons, I say this is someone who liked Ahsoka early on too. Omega has a different personality to be fair though,s he's more intellectual and sheltered. Emerie too, while she is a clinical scientist, she isn't abrasive or unlikeable. She cares about Omega. So even she's sympathetic from what we've seen of her. Unless you're hating them on the basis they're female clones there's not much to a lot to dislike about their characters.
I can see the argument about Omega taking away the focus from the Bad Batch but I think she's baked into the story they wanted to tell with this show. And by making her the key to Palpatine's cloning efforts, it'll probably lead to the clones sticking one to Palpatine and preventing him from achieving that goal of total immortality. Which is a nice arc for the clones given how their overall story is quite tragic. But this way they do play a part in the larger saga and leave a better legacy that isn't just Order 66.
For me it raised more questions and the idea that the Kaminoans having their own clones and experiments that no one knows about was pretty interesting. There has to be a reason she was brought in and doubt it was just because they wanted a female clone for the sake of it.
This however IS the expression of intrusive nonsense
The Kaminoans would have flushed this defect into the sea when it started talking back to the PM saying IT'S MA'AM
It would not even get to the point of Kaminoans flushing him. Trans clone makes no sense. It makes no sense for a clone, who's been raised in MALE ONLY BROTHERHOOD, who's been raised and taught to fight his entire life, who was not molested or exposed to degeneracy even once, to suddenly """feel like a woman""". The only women he's met in his life are Kaminoans. This is like pure delusion. This "character" was created for a Padme book written by pic related. Insane twitter activist. And the funny part is that all the other clones were accepting of "this", lmao. Yeah, right, the same clones who were nearly universally shitting on Bad Batch for being genetic freaks, kek. Just another reminder that Star Wars books are worthless fanfiction where anything goes, and one should not pay attention to it, especially D*sney garbage books.
Clone 99 wasn't able to fight due to his defects and was a janitor for that reason. Don't know about that troony clone but if "she" is able to fight and isn't hindering the war effort, no one gives a shit. So long as you can shoot some droids, Command don't care what you wear.
Besides, with the hundreds of thousands of clones being made, of course you'd get some weird shit including one who thinks it's a girl. The only thing a clone hates is a deserter who left their fellow clones to die.
Because they are biological female (real women) and cute and don't seem to push any "message", and they are used exclusively as scientists and caretakers. There's nothing to b***h about.
It's not a crazy concept considering all the shit the Kaminoans can do. Especially with Clone Force 99 right there. It's more a question of why did they create them. But it's Nala Se and she was up to a lot of shit in her lab. She might've felt lonely or needed an assistant so she altered the Jango template to accommodate for that on top of making the Bad Batch. She is maternal towards Omega and gave her the Kaminoan headband thing.
Emerie might've been Nala Se's first attempt or she was given to Hemlock as a gift because he needed an assistant for his secret experiments who he could easily control. And Emerie was literally raised in a lab and has no life outside of that so she's the perfect assistant outside of using a droid.
Why doesn't he just get over it and frick clone boy pussy? I'd honestly find him less fricked up if that's the case. Instead of making dudes into girls.
Maybe some Kaminoans got bored before getting the GAR contract, maybe they wanted to make intermediaries for business deals that would be more appealing and familiar to business partners, or someone might have ordered a harem but couldn't pay up so they put the girls to work as lab assistants
I get the vibe that the space kiwi clone lady lore isn't important. But then again, I'm sure we can expect someone to try squeezing content by making an Emerie Karr spinoff
You need to consider that The Bad Batch doesn't get much attention compared to the Star Wars live action shows. People just don't talk about it at all. I think many just got tired of hating nu-wars in general.
Also, so far the show has never went into a preachy territory with the female clones. They're just there.
Though, one thing I've seen being claimed is that those who hate Omega are misogynistic. I don't think that's a fair claim, the aversion to her is mostly due to being a "Steven Universe" type character who is too optimistic and everyone just likes her.
>everyone just likes her.
I means she's a kid and well-mannered. Most people wouldn't take issue with her. I'm sure when she meets Ventress this season she'll find her annoying.
I imagine its because the show creators are worried about the implications of having a little girl go around with her own firearm. By making it a stupid looking crossbow thing it has enough separation from looking like a gun that most people won't stop and think on it. Also, fricking imagine if Bad Batch included a scene where Omeeguh straight up fricking killed a guy in self-defense? That would be fricking nuts.
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Also this. Omega has some ridiculous fricking plot armor because she's a little girl and most people don't like the idea of seeing a little girl get the shit kicked out of her in a life or death situation.
Her VA said Omega's ending is bittersweet and pretty definitive so I don't think it's going to be all sunshine and rainbows in the end. There's going to be a reality check. idk how dark it will be but there'll be something.
I know who is sperging out ITT. It's the Rebelsgay. >tfw you've been in Star Wars threads for so long that you know all the schizos and their posting habits
The Kiners have been doing a good job overall with the music on the streaming shows. One of the best things about Ahsoka was the OST. Just in the last episode with Bad Batch that techno music when Crosshair was fighting Clone X on the waterfall was great. Or the way they brought back the clone theme from TCW again.
The Kiners have been doing a good job overall with the music on the streaming shows. One of the best things about Ahsoka was the OST. Just in the last episode with Bad Batch that techno music when Crosshair was fighting Clone X on the waterfall was great. Or the way they brought back the clone theme from TCW again.
Not a bad song, but I feel the only one who made music for Star Wars that is as memorable as the John Williams themes is Ludwig Goranson. (Michael Giacchino was good but it feels her was trying too hard to sound like Williams)
I'm crossing my fingers he will be back for the Mando movie.
Ludwig Goranson and other guy who did Mandalorian S3 and Book of Boba made a lot of good music but it leans a little too much into techno imo.
I think the jury is still out. Kiner was limited by network kids television and not having a full orchestra most of the time but when he got to let loose on Ahsoka I think his sounded the most Star Warsy, but it wasn't trying to be diet John Williams like Giacchino either. I want to see how he scores the Filoni movie.
Like I was always kind of eh on Ahsoka's theme because it was a minute long flute solo or whatever and the motif would appear a lot but when they made into a fully fledged orchestral track for her series I thought it was great. Baylan Skoll and Thrawn's themes were great as well. So I need to see more of Kiner in this streaming format now I feel like he's only just getting started.
It's just that none of the music from the cartoons has stayed with me the same way Mando's theme or Gideon's theme. >Thrawn's theme
Well, except for this one. I think the organ was an amazing choice for him.
I'd argue not just the main theme and Gideon's but Grogu and Luke's themes as well mainly in the "A Friend" and "Open the Door" tracks but those were reused a lot for the Book of Boba training episode.
In a way Omega is like a genderbent Paul Atreides in that he was meant to be a girl but his mother chose to have a boy. Like Nala Se created a female clone with special blood properties. it's Omega and her bond with the Bad Batch that'll likely end up bringing down Palpatine's cloning operation on Tantiss. Like if she didn't exist they might've eventually perfected the M-count transfer but all this shit with her leading clones back to Tantiss will set the Empire's research back years.
There is a bit of a Rey parallel there too ironically with how she's the key to Palpatine's ascension but it's not what she is that makes her special or defines her it's her training the batch gave her and her optimism. She is underrated and might be the best Disney SW heroine by the time this series is over.
I dunno, bro. She is like literally a walking MacGuffin. I can't see her as a real character or a person, who just happens to be in the plot. She is like this mysterious plot device. And she doesn't have any real character flaws. She is this giga morally pure child trope who wants to help everyone and she always gets away with it. I've come to tolerate her, instead of being annoyed that she steals the show and precious runtime that could have been spent on actually interesting things and other clones. But I doubt I'll ever like her. She gives the show the "disney feel."
>She gives the show the "disney feel."
My fear when I saw the trailers was that she'd be a baby Yoda type mascot for the Bad Batch but she's been the glue holding the team together and driving the plot. And she was very sheltered I can forgive some naivete. That is her strength and her weakness.
I think yeah they could've aged her up and given her more of an edge. But I think the point is they're fighting to give her a childhood. But she isn't completely helpless like Grogu and just there to act cute.
It's not a clone story for everyone if you don't want to see them doing more paternal stuff and trying to find a life outside of being a soldier, but Bad Batch is more about how they adapt and change. To get a show about clones doing more clone things we'd need another Clone Wars series or anthology thing.
Also it's weird there's no clone novels or comics in canon. Does Filoni have some embargo on them like Ahsoka?
Yeah, she's optimistic can-do magic girl. She's a trope. I guess the fact that she can talk puts her one step above Grogu. But they are essentially the same, and the plot of two shows is also in essence the same: grizzled cynical warrior takes care of a child who is wanted by the Empire for its blood so they can do some cloning shit. Bad b***h is elevated by all the other stuff, not Bad Batch (sans Crosshair) and Omega. The latter is only interesting to women on twitter and tumblr, who are all about OOHHHHHHH HE HUGGED HER :333333 OHHH I AM SO WET
I just wish she was a little more capable. Like in this episode she doesn't get a "real" gun, she gets a special little tykes plasma crossbow. She's never able to do much of anything without the real adults to bail her out.
At least Clone Wars Ahsoka could do stuff on her own.
Also lately the whole kidnapping plot is getting kinda tiresome
Ahsoka was also old enough to get beaten, electrocuted and enslaved. She also experienced real loss in the first fricking season. The problem with OHMEEGAH is that she can't be physically beaten (one time she only got stunned by Scorch, that's it), and she hasn't gotten a fricking reality check still, even after Tech's death. She ALWAYS wants to save everyone and she always gets away with it. Like b***h, when are you gonna become a little more grounded and get a reality check that you can't save everyone? When is she going to massively fail at something? She is a disney magic girl and it's kinda tiresome.
I think they balanced that out by having her be pretty capable escaping Tantiss, working with Crosshair to pilot the ship and stuff. Then after that she gambles to get their money using her skills they established in S1, and again she works with Crosshair to escape and pilots the ship which is something we saw Tech teaching her in S2. So what she does do isn't unearned.
I do agree the kidnapping plot has been overdone it's happening every season but I guess the point is that the Empire will not let her or CF99 go they're going to have to confront them and stop running. And Omega being less capable than Ahsoka is expected she's not a Jedi. As far as we know outside of her blood being special she's an ordinary kid. But hopefully as this season goes on we'll see her putting the Bad Batch's training to use more.
I imagine its because the show creators are worried about the implications of having a little girl go around with her own firearm. By making it a stupid looking crossbow thing it has enough separation from looking like a gun that most people won't stop and think on it. Also, fricking imagine if Bad Batch included a scene where Omeeguh straight up fricking killed a guy in self-defense? That would be fricking nuts.
Ahsoka was also old enough to get beaten, electrocuted and enslaved. She also experienced real loss in the first fricking season. The problem with OHMEEGAH is that she can't be physically beaten (one time she only got stunned by Scorch, that's it), and she hasn't gotten a fricking reality check still, even after Tech's death. She ALWAYS wants to save everyone and she always gets away with it. Like b***h, when are you gonna become a little more grounded and get a reality check that you can't save everyone? When is she going to massively fail at something? She is a disney magic girl and it's kinda tiresome.
Also this. Omega has some ridiculous fricking plot armor because she's a little girl and most people don't like the idea of seeing a little girl get the shit kicked out of her in a life or death situation.
On the subject of "Crosshair X"
1. There's no way for there to BE a clone of him, at least not one anywhere near grown
2. That wouldn't have nearly as much narrative weight as the operative being a former comrade twisted into a tool of the Empire
With the way the other clone acted when he saw Crosshair, combined with the fact the Clone X was sniper has me thinking that its definitely a clone of Crosshair. Do think it would be better if it was Cody, though
The operatives have ALL been trained as snipers, that's part of the assassin thing, and two of the three we've seen haven't been Crosshair
Why would they even bother with converting people with the brainwashing if they had Crosshair clones ready or immediately to be
Okay? So he knows Crosshair from Tantiss, probably met during their imprisonment before he was brainwashed. Why would a mind melted clone operative be told about some bizarre scheme to clone this other clone?
Except Crosshair said the clone assassins were True Believers of the Empire who all willingly underwent treatment.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Same point stands. If they're just recruiting anyways, why bother with making another Crosshair
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Why bother making a clone of a guy who was genetically engineered to be one of the best Snipers in the galaxy.
You tell me.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Same reason they stopped cloning for the Empire's main army? The clone spooks are meant to be deadly but disposable, and custom growing them is expensive and time consuming
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's a huge difference between cloning an entire army and cloning a super specialized assassin, also Hemlock was given a blank check by Palpatine as well. The comparison is not applicable.
1 month ago
Anonymous
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Do you guys hate clones or something? Why are you being so argumentative on a thread about cartoons?
>also Hemlock was given a blank check by Palpatine as well
Why are you disingenuous? Hemlock is retrofitting the Clones for his own purposes. Any cloning that maybe be done this season will be Palpatine-related, and not xXxXdArKcLoNeTrOoPeRXxXx related. Meaning there is zero reason for a new Jango Fett to be created inside Hemlock's labs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Why are you both projecting and setting up a terrible strawman by claiming Hemlock has his own genetic template for a new Jango Fett?
Again, Crosshair's clone would be related to Project Necromancer so it's not to create a new clone army, but to have something that's usable for Palpatine when they create a clone of him. You also assume Palpatine wouldn't be paranoid enough to let his body be cloned before the treatment was perfected.
>That's irrelevant since Crosshair's clone would be a side product of Project Necromancer
Wrong because the Clone Operatives come from Admiral Rampart, not Hemlock. Hemlock is handling PALPATINE's clones, not Jango Fett clones. I said there won't be any new Jango Fett clones, not any more clones.
>Admiral Rampart
Has been out of the picture for a while. The operatives are under Hemlock's command and you don't know if it's just clones of Palpatine, since you need to extract their memories as well to put them into a new clone. Doing that someone like Crosshair makes perfect sense. So your basis is without any merit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>UH! NO YOU'RE WRONG UH PALPATINE'S CLONE IS GOING TO BE A JANGO FETT CLONE!
lmao what a fricking moron hahahahahahah
Wait. Its taken me a while to actually think about this.
Are Kaminoans straight up just extinct, now? Did they bomb Topica City with the population still on it? Did they have other cities on Kamino or other planets?
Its a pretty fricking major change that the Bad Batch writers were allowed to think up.
No. The senator one shows up in season 2, and I think maybe they mention that the Kaminoans have colonies somewhere or something.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't recall any mention of colonies, and Burtoni says (or tries to bluff) that the few remaining of her species mean nothing to her. Given how basically nobody even knew Kamino existed up until the Clone wars I don't imagine they were out in force in the galaxy
Picture Bad Batch gives me is that the few that happened to be off planet before it was nuked are all that's left
I think Omega is alright, but I see why some can't stand her.
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who?
I'd scold you for not remembering characters but honestly nah I don't blame you for forgetting that homie in season 2
1 month ago
Anonymous
It has been a long time since I watched the show. It's quite weird this is the first time I had to wait to watch something from Star Wars. (Ahsoka came out before but I was never really excited for it)
On Kamino, they did visit an abandoned Kaminoan colony in an earlier episode when they went after Cad Bane.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh, that. I'd call that more of a research outpost, and of course put emphasis on the abandoned part
Not that there's absolutely no Kaminoans anywhere, but I think Kamino itself was where the vast majority of their species was
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Green texting >Another strawman >Ad Hominem
If you're going to have a mental break down like this, have a little more dignity, this is Cinemaphile, not /misc/.
And since it's clear you aren't arguing in good faith, and just here to shitpost either through prideful ignorance, or just to be contrarian. For the benefit of everyone else reading this allow me to better explain why Hemlock would clone Crosshair.
Project Necromancer final goal is to create a clone of Palpatine, that's extremely clear from the information we have. And the major obstacle is creating a clone where the M-count doesn't degrade. There's also a non-addressed issue of how do you transfer the memories of a person to their clone as well. Hemlock would need to solve that issue and this is why he wouldn't necessary have to create just clones of Palpatine for Project Necromancer to solve this problem. I strongly down Palpatine would approve of creating a clone of him with his memories while he's still alive even without the M-count issues. This is why Hemlock would create a clone of Crosshair and then transfer Crosshair's memories into it. It not only does A. Prove you can transfer memories so when the time comes, Palpatine could be fully cloned with his memories. But B, give Hemlock an elite clone agent to do his wetwork operations.
It's completely separate from the M-count problem, which would be solved with Omega's Genetic material, but that's a totally separate issue from a Crosshair clone. Now if anyone else wants clarification, I'd be happy to give them.
1 month ago
Anonymous
tl;dr, Hemlock needed to make sure he could transfer the memories of a host to a clone. So he created a clone of Crosshair to make sure the process was viable and could then use it on a clone of Palpatine when the times come.
The Crosshair clone was just a byproduct of testing which Hemlock could use for other purposes and is not meant to be a template or further cloned.
1 month ago
Anonymous
tl;dr, Hemlock needed to make sure he could transfer the memories of a host to a clone. So he created a clone of Crosshair to make sure the process was viable and could then use it on a clone of Palpatine when the times come.
The Crosshair clone was just a byproduct of testing which Hemlock could use for other purposes and is not meant to be a template or further cloned.
Turns out that Palpatine in TROS is actually a Jango Fett clone. Crazy.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Still sticking to his strawman because he's been thoroughly BTFO on the merits of there being a clone of Crosshair
1 month ago
Anonymous
Doubling down and screaming that someone has been BTFO doesn't make it so, especially when all you have is conjecture and the most ridiculous segways everyone's ever seen. I get that this is supposed to be wacky funny haha dorky nerd talk but c'mon you look like a fricking moron right now.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Actually it does if all you have is a strawman and can't refute on the merits.
But keep throwing a tantrum over it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Let me just circle back
Not saying they'd be no in universe reason at all to keep Crosshair's skills around in new clones, I simply don't think the story beats for this show would lead into such a reveal
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Clones
If you read my post properly, it would be a clone. Singular, because it was the one created by Hemlock to prove you can transfer the memories of a host to a clone, where he'd then apply that research to a Palpatine clone.
And instead of disposing of the clone of crosshair he kept it to turn him into one of his operatives since Crosshair's nature is to be is super loyal, as long as you don't betray him.
And let's face it, people would be less shocked if the clone agent turned out to be Cody or Tech since that's what they're expecting now.
1 month ago
Anonymous
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lol
1 month ago
Anonymous
Because the Jango Fett clones die out and The Bad Batch is all about how the Jango Fett clones fricking disappear. There's nothing to support that the creation of new Jango Fett clones has continued after they blew up Kamino. True Believers are all about brainwashing some of the remaining Clones and putting them to work doing the nefarious fricking malarkey that the Empire needs.
Do you guys hate clones or something? Why are you being so argumentative on a thread about cartoons?
1 month ago
Anonymous
homie stop
We're being autists about in universe details, you're just being a plain autist. We can argue about human resources in the Galactic Empire if we fricking please
1 month ago
Anonymous
Because the Jango Fett clones die out and The Bad Batch is all about how the Jango Fett clones fricking disappear. There's nothing to support that the creation of new Jango Fett clones has continued after they blew up Kamino. True Believers are all about brainwashing some of the remaining Clones and putting them to work doing the nefarious fricking malarkey that the Empire needs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's irrelevant since Crosshair's clone would be a side product of Project Necromancer, which is still about cloning and Hemlock brought in Nala Se, you can't tell me it's NOT about more cloning.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>That's irrelevant since Crosshair's clone would be a side product of Project Necromancer
Wrong because the Clone Operatives come from Admiral Rampart, not Hemlock. Hemlock is handling PALPATINE's clones, not Jango Fett clones. I said there won't be any new Jango Fett clones, not any more clones.
Accelerated growth and Project Necromancer is all about reviving someone with their memories, so I wouldn't put it past Hemlock to use Crosshair as a test subject for that. And don't forget, when Hemlock first met Crosshair, he tried to cut him a deal where if he turned over all his intel on CF99, Hemlock would see he'd be set free. So he's clearly interested in Crosshair's talent, and Hemlock hasn't broken his word yet when he's given it so there's that as well.
Plus this season is all about Crosshair's redemption. Shooting his evil past self would be the on the nose way to do it. Or if they want to make it interesting, have Omega shoot Crosshair X to save Crosshair.
With the way the other clone acted when he saw Crosshair, combined with the fact the Clone X was sniper has me thinking that its definitely a clone of Crosshair. Do think it would be better if it was Cody, though
Every True Believer we've seen so far had a generic Clone face with a generic Clone haircut. Not every bad guy has to be a clone of so and so or so and so's father or brother or whatever. The only connection Crosshair has to the Clone Operatives is that he was the template for their design, in the Ryloth episodes in season 1 Crosshair is basically a Clone Operative.
Frick, I miss no nonsense badass Gregor. Rebels made him a fricking giggling moron, and I wish he just died here with a kino fricking death worthy of a commando.
Wait. Its taken me a while to actually think about this.
Are Kaminoans straight up just extinct, now? Did they bomb Topica City with the population still on it? Did they have other cities on Kamino or other planets?
Its a pretty fricking major change that the Bad Batch writers were allowed to think up.
Let me just circle back
Not saying they'd be no in universe reason at all to keep Crosshair's skills around in new clones, I simply don't think the story beats for this show would lead into such a reveal
>1 minute apart
Yes, I added some stuff after noticing it wasn't included and a minor typo.
>Clones
If you read my post properly, it would be a clone. Singular, because it was the one created by Hemlock to prove you can transfer the memories of a host to a clone, where he'd then apply that research to a Palpatine clone.
And instead of disposing of the clone of crosshair he kept it to turn him into one of his operatives since Crosshair's nature is to be is super loyal, as long as you don't betray him.
And let's face it, people would be less shocked if the clone agent turned out to be Cody or Tech since that's what they're expecting now.
. If this is supposed to be a 'gotcha' attempt, it reeks of desperation on your part.
This is supposed to be a thread about the Bad Batch, maybe stick to that?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You should apply to be a janitor.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Further deflecting
I accept you concessions on the topic. Also given your style, looking forward to a poor attempt at sealioning.
Regardless of what you do, the signs point to a clone of crosshair.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm more excited for the Jango Fett Palpatine clone myself.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Back to this strawman
I accept another concession by you.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hey man, tell the truth. Were you one of the people who thought that Thrawn was going to show up at the finale for Mandalorian season 3?
Well, this season is half way through and I think it has been fine so far.
Tales of the Jedi season 2 is also coming out this year, I wonder what animated projects will take this spot after.
Any decent rips? I only got 720p from the usual sites
There was a MEGA around and for some reason I didnt save it, so seconding this.
I know it's a shitty phone pic but I'm wageslaving. Anyone know what this rifle is?
Looks like standard DC-15 rifle with a scope attached to it.
Was there a list of all the Clones who were apart of Rex's group that got killed?
The episode guide might name them all when it releases on the official site. The only ones new in this episode named on screen are Greer and Samson, the other two are unnamed. Fireball and Nemec already appeared in the second season.
I wonder which Jedi these guys served alongside
Greer and Samson being green and purple makes me think they served with Yoda and Mace, Samson even sounds like a reference to Samuel Jackson. Nemec and Fireball also look like 41st Elite Corps. Not sure about the two unidentified red clones.
Mace’s clones in TCW were all dark reddish brown
They're maroon I think and Ponds was 91st Recon Corps so it could be them on Anaxes in S7 too. But that was the 187th Battalion. The 187th Legion is a separate thing and they are canon. They just didn't appear in TCW.
>Leland Chee further elaborated that it was a conscious decision to try to keep the 187th Legion and Windu's unit in The Clone Wars series as different units rather than the same unit that uses two different color schemes. The 187th Legion debuted in Star Wars canon in the LEGO Star Wars "Republic Fighter Tank" set that was revealed in 2022. Windu's unit within the Bad Batch arc was later named the "187th Battalion" on the Hasbro Pulse livestream for May the Fourth, 2022 as a Star Wars: The Black Series set.
Aren't red clones shock troopers or part of the Coruscant Guard?
Yeah they could be shock troopers who were part of the Diplomatic Service offworld stuff or 91st Recon Corps, both are red.
Always thought he was red because he was part of the Coruscant Guard and Jar Jar was a senator.
Stone is. But there's a unit within the Coruscant Guard that deals with diplomatic stuff on other planets. They escort senators and stuff like you see Commander Thorn doing with Padme on Scipio. Not all of them were cooped up on Coruscant policing the streets or guarding the senate like Fox.
That doesn't change the fact they're still under that umbrella of the Courusant Guard. They're just part of a specific unit within in.
That's what I was saying. And it's a corps too so it's pretty big. I'm sure they could've had units stationed on other worlds besides Coruscant guarding imperial strongholds but it was easier for some to defect in those places and join Rex's cell.
Man Fox was cool
Needed more Fox stories on Coruscant.
>bogged chuchi
>same one haircut
It's over.
omg it's scorch talking to sev everyone!
No, Scorch mentioning Sev doesn't happen until episode 10 where we get a pov episode for him, we also get to see Boss and Fixer in episode 8, Boss and Fixer both have grey paint where their respective orange and green paint used to be.
How so?
Gotta love these fake bullshit fanfiction leaks.
The sad part is they're usually more kino than anything disney could come up with.
>endless Glup Shitto shit that sounds like it was written by a 13 year old who just found out about Republic Commando
>kino
I don't think so.
Why does Republic Commando make you so mad?
what is his fricking problem, fricking relax princess
Some weirdo spook comes out of nowhere and blows hismission by being a lone wolf frickwit, I'd say Wolffe is pretty justified in being miffed at him.
Rex and co. would have simply flown away had spooky man not been there. Also would have been able to save his squad
Does anything interesting happen in either of these episodes or is it yet another pointless filler "one more job?"
Not filler. Clone rebellion/rex stuff. Operator kino.
I mean Wolffe is pretty fortunate that the clones with him just went along with this and he's also lucky all the TK troopers either got killed or knocked out during this confrontation, but I don't see how he's going to handle this in his report.
They're also lucky that Scorch was a moron and sent only two shuttles and not two cruisers. But Wolffe is fricked, and if it wasn't for Rebels where he is shown alive, I'd say he should have been done after this.
>They're also lucky that Scorch was a moron
Cut Scorch some slack, he didn't consider that Wolffe would just....let them go, also he still gets a pass for me for not immediately ratting Hemlock out in front of Palpatine when he was informed about Omega and Crosshair's escape.
this is like one of only four times in disney star wars where i actually worried about a character, and that character being one that i care about
oops meant to quote
i honestly thought they were going to kill him here for a second
Why is Wolffe taller than the commando
Commandos have always been bulky manlets. But maybe it's just perspective and angle that makes it seem that way, idk.
My guy, they're all clones of one dude
Yeah but Morrison is a manlet, so that just means Commandos are less genetically modified while standard troopers had height adjustments..
Jango is canonically 6ft tall
>Hire Jango who hires Zam who sends a robot who sends space slugs to take out target
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST haha
He is still badass though
>Delta Squad
I miss them, bros.
I thought that Wolfe is just on a raise but of rock or something.
>filler
A worthless term since nothing in season 3 has been filler
>the bad batch goes to the snow planet where they learn nothing new about tantiss
>Hunter thinks Crosshair is an butthole but their problems are immediately solved by fighting a big bug
FILONI..........
LA CREATIVIDAD...
>Character development is filler
Kids these days, I blame streaming.
When the character development happens in one episode
Yeah I'm saying the Batch got over Crosshair's return way too quickly, I'd give it atleast two episodes before Hunter got along with him again. Prefferably three.
But this shit only has 15 episodes.
>Too quickly
What do you expect? Have Crosshair and Omega rot on Tantis doing the same old routines for 2/3rds of the season while the show follows Hunter and Wrecker trying to find leads on them, then the two break out and twe immediately go to the climax?
This is better because it means things with Crosshair aren't rushed. Like the previous week, you had Hunter and Crosshair finally reconcile sorta given the bad blood between them. Meanwhile the last episode had Howitzer come to an understanding with him given how much of a justified reason he had to hate Crosshair.
Having Crosshair sit in a box would rush those things and then you'd then be whining about that.
I just think it's shallow to see Hunter get over 2 seasons worth of Crosshair being with the empire in a 20 minute long episode.
It really helps Omega is there as a character witness for Crosshair. Plus if Hunter spent most of the season not trusting Crosshair, you'd complain about that. The way they did things gets you the most mileage.
The only downside is Rex's clone rebellion has been kneecapped, so it should be interesting to see how he ends up alive, the Empire knowing he's alive and a broken man from here.
Why do you assume what I would and would not enjoy? Crosshair being distrusted could be good if handled well.
Because you're telegraphing like crazy. If they had an extra season, they could stretch out Crosshair being distrusted, but they don't have that luxury now.
>Clone is named Fireball
>Uses a flamethrower to charge clone shadow operative/assassin
>The fire from his flamethrower hits some grenades (that are shaped like balls) which ends up killing him
You frickers, stop with the name puns, I still haven't forgiven them for Ima Gun Di.
I mean is it not fair to assume many clones got their nicknames the same way real world military folk get call signs?
>Oh, I'm much worse.
OMFG Crosshair is hot frick what do I do
RIP Fireball and Nemec
Howzer's days are numbered.
I onow she doesnt show up until after episode 8 but I really wanted Teth to be related to Ventress in this show
webm of the melee fight between crosshair and clone x at the end?
>introduce geared out rebel clones troopers with interesting colors/armor and weapons
>almost all of them get taken out like chumps
come on now, after fireball and nemec whooping ass in their first scene i was expecting more from clones who disobeyed order 66
Got it's so depressing that animation talent like this is being wasted on such a subpar streaming content. Such an amazing-looking show and so fricking boring.
so dont watch it.
Wow, I can't believe they killed Crosshair this early!
god I wish this fight went on for longer, such a cool backdrop
Is that supposed to be a vibroblade?
It seems more like a some kind of heated blade given the cuts we see similar ones (like Hunter's earlier on) make
Makes sense to me that they went for rapid response over overwhelming force. In the time it took to muster a larger ship and contingent, the targets could have slipped away
why are they slashing with the knifes like it's a sword fight?
Given that it's got some kind of powered function it makes more sense to me
you've never seen vibroblades before?
Only KOTORists care about vibrator blades, bro.
yeah homie so what
Because Crosshair destroyed the assassin's rifle, and his own rifle was knocked out of his hands.
This means they cant do a fake out death again. the next time its real.
Well crap, the sites I usually watch these on only just got episode 5.
Remember when everyone said Filoni was going to save Star Wars?
Yeah now both the Mandalorian and Bad Batch are doing clean up for the sequels, both series that had him as showrunner are about how Sheev cloned himself.
hes not part of season 3 though
He is the show's creator and executive producer. He is not a screen writer, but he is a creative nonetheless and has a big impact on its general direction. Every season of any animated show kicks off with a story conference where they lay down the general story beats, character arcs and what should happen. Stop being moronic, you stupid Black person. He is not involved with it on a daily basis, he doesn't write the scripts and he doesn't direct, but he sets up the general direction of the story, pitches ideas and shots down ideas that he doesn't like. Tantiss, Project Necromancer, resurrected Ventress — all of that shit is meant to tie into Mandoverse.
okay, show me evidence of this for season 3
I just did, you dumb Black person.
Answer me this, why are you so moronic? Why are you so hellbent on trying to convince people that filoni has nothing to do with this show, despite his name being all over it, and him being extensively involved with the previous two seasons? Why would he not be involved with the third season in the same way, despite occupying the same role on the show, and considering the fact that it ties into his live-action projects more than anything else? Why are you like this, Ventressgay? What happened to you? What made you so fricking retared?
I havent seen him in any marketing material for season 3
he wasnt even there when S3 was annouced at star wars celebration despite there being no excuse for him to absent from it as he was at star wars celebration too
proof of this
https://www.starwars.com/news/swce-2023-the-bad-batch-season-3
you're just telling me that he's "totally in charge of season 3" despite him never showing up to talk about stuff, him never doing interviews nor him being present at the seasons announcement?
he hasnt been mentioned by the lead writer and lead producer in regards to the story either
hell, iirc he even said he left ToTJ season 2 to other people?
he's off fricking his ahsoka blow up doll and writing more mandoverse slop, there has been no evidence of him involved in season 3
Yeah, stupid Black, he's totally in charge of the entire show. Because he is its creator and executive producer. That's how it works, Black person.
>Behind the scenes, Lucasfilm took the sequence, and the decision to kill off Tech, very seriously. “There were a lot of conversations that went into that, and we even tried to talk ourselves out of it many times, because he's such an important character to the show, to all of us and the crew, and we know he is important to the fans,” Corbett says. “But what we're showing in Season 2 is that the galaxy has changed and the Empire is now very powerful in the early years. So we were trying to be logical in the sense that, the Batch keeps putting themselves in these positions and, ultimately, there has to be a time when they do lose." Dave Filoni, series creator and executive producer, agreed.
>“Even Dave said, when we were pitching him ideas for leading up to the finale, ‘If you're going to have them go against Tarkin, Tarkin’s smart. Tarkin will be able to pull one over on them,’” says Corbett. “And as he should — to again show how the balance has changed in the galaxy.”
https://www.starwars.com/news/brad-rau-jennifer-corbett-the-bad-batch-season-3-interview
And when S3 is over, and when behind the scenes interview will start to roll out, just like it happened with the previous seasons, and it will be revealed that, indeed, Filoni was developing this show and was extensively involved with developing its story, I just hope you will blow your brains out and live-stream it. But we know what you'll do instead. You'll just ignore the inconvenient truth, like the chicken shit pussy you are.
Have you seen him in any marketing material for S1 and S2? Jesus fricking Christ, you are so fricking stupid. Holy frick, I can't imagine being you. It's actually funny why you do it. You have such a hateboner for him, and now that Ventress is in this show, you started to shill it relentlessly across this entire fricking website, like an obsessed freak you are. And you happen to like it, but since Filoni made it, you can't admit that you like something made by Filoni, so you try your hardest, you pull the hardest shit out of your ass to come up with some utmost moronic delusions, outright denying the fricking reality, you stupid Black person, that is presented to you at the end of every episode:
Because you are a moronic schizo. I can't wait for Ventress to show up in Ahsoka S2, and you will start shilling it too. Because you are like this, you are mentally ill. You've been doing it for over 10 years. The fact that you have no self-awareness just proves that you are an NPC, because otherwise you would have killed yourself a long ago.
>Have you seen him in any marketing material for S1 and S2?
yes, I'll just quote your own post which you've seen to have conveniently forgotten about
remember this image that you posted?
now again, show me evidence of him with season 3
That's not marketing material. This article came out months after S2 ended. Dumb Black person.
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-insider-219-excerpt
Published on June 16, 2023.
Now go fetch me some marketing material. As in, before the season was out. Or during it. Stupid Black person.
sure here you go
https://www.starwars.com/news/zillo-beast-101
now show me something for season 3
Did you even read the shit you've posted, Black person? Or did you just Ctrl+F "Dave" and called it a day?
>This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release, Filoni said, “I knew that the zillo beast had to be different. It is rare for George [Lucas] to approve something, like the lightsaber not being able to cut through [its hide]. It had to do something we had never seen before.”
He is talking about The Clone Wars' arc. It is literally written "This arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars was initially inspired by the series’ supervising director Dave Filoni’s love for kaiju and Japanese monster movies. At the time of the episodes’ initial release". Can you comprehend English, monkey? Where was it said that he was talking about the episodes of Bad Batch? Fricking Christ, just fricking have a nice day already.
>now show me something for season 3
have a nice day, low IQ inbred UK subhuman.
my mistake, but see
and heres the season 2 announcement, look who was there when you read it
https://www.starwars.com/news/swca-2022-the-bad-batch-season-2-panel
and heres more season 2 stuff at D23, and oh look, dave talked about it too
https://www.starwars.com/news/d23-expo-2022-lucasfilm
so tell me, if he was present for season 2 marketing
why is he absent for season 3 if he's still "a big part of the show" according to you?
See:
You do know who Joel Aron is, light? The cinematographer and lighting artist of the show? Probably not, you're a dumb Black person, you don't know shit.
Just tell me this: when the behind-the-scenes interviews will roll out, months and years later, where it will be revealed in detail, are you going to have a nice day? Yes or no? I am willing to pay if you live-stream it. You are the Chris Chan of Star Wars threads. That would be amazing if you killed yourself. Go back to plebbit, you scum.
you know whats funny?
I was defending filoni by saying he wasnt part of season 3
but you're just so obsessed that you didnt see it
keep coping and seething, and if in the future its revealed that im wrong, oh well, at least I got some good star wars out of it
I imagine he was asked to "fix" the sequels based on the erroneous idea that Clone Wars fixed the prequels, so he want after the biggest problem first, the fact that th Emperor is alive without any real explanation in the sequels.
in the end, the truth is that Clone Wars was decent and had Lucas involved, but it didn't fix the prequels, people that liked them will still like them and people that hate them will still hate them, no cartoon can change that. And them wasting several series trying to resolve J.J.'s laziness and Johson's buttholery are a fricking waste.
for frick sake, Filoni is neither a director or writer on bad batch beside the first episode. His role with the show is mostly for promotional purpose. I'm tired people still think he's the guy handling it.
Even Lucas had more involment with clone wars
don't bother arguing with the anti filoni brigade, you won't get anywhere against ironic shitposting
Just headcanon that Bad Batch sets up Dark Empire instead.
The season is going to end with only Rex, Gregor and Wolffe being Alive while all the Bad Batch and remaining clone including Omega, dies in a final stand on Planet Pabu or Planet Tantis. Im calling it
wait its 2 nw episodes?
yeah a 2 parter, its pretty good
So the operative is definitely a character we know who got winter soldiered, right? Who do you guys think it is, I'm betting it's either Cody or Dogma.
Also, anyone got some hd screenshots of tacticool Howzer?
it's tech dipshit
I'm in denial of that even being a possibility because its way too similar to what happened to Echo. It would be an interesting reveal, but I would rather have it be Cody who supposedly went rogue yet has been suspiciously absent.
Wollfe trusted Rex too easily. It was weird than no clone in his squad had anything to say against it, only commando tried to say something, but immediately backed down and that's it. That line in the end from Rex was moronic "If you want to keep her safe, you need to know why they are after her". Motherfricker, that does not compute. What the frick did he mean by this. Too keep her safe they need to run and hide. It's irrelevant to Hunter why the Empire wants her.
>Also, anyone got some hd screenshots of tacticool Howzer?
80% of the episode was dark as shit, and you couldn't get a good look. That's a lot of pouches on his chest.
>It's irrelevant to Hunter why the Empire wants her.
I think what Rex was trying to get at was that they need to shut down whatever program the Empire needs her for or else the Empire will just keep sending assassins and they won't be able to hide forever. But even then they already want to shut down Tantiss so it's still a bit confusing.
I bet a lot of the early TK recruits were people coming from worlds that were liberated by clones which is what inspired them to sign up.
I liked how the TK troopers actually seem to like working with clones and respect them. The only one who dislike clones seems to be imperial officers.
Clones trained them after all.
I kinda wonder if they too ended up being replaced by the Stormtroopers. Just without any experimentation and all, just in the soft "early replacement by new recruits" way.
That one blonde imperial admiral in Rebels, the one in command of that Interdictor, respected clones and that one imperial Moff did speak out against using clones and guinea pigs for Hemlock. So it's probably just individual preferences.
God what a two parter
Rex basically lost all his men in their secret base, fricking kek.
It's okay as long as Howzer lives. Plus, I'm sure he will replenish their numbers with Wolffe's squad soon enough. I wonder if any of the clones with Wolffe were the Plo's bros that we are familiar with like Boost, Sinker, and Comet.
YJK she bounces on that bcc on the reg
LMAO Crosshair was right
Hunter scared of losing her to him
dumbass dads can't coparent properly hahaha
How about we agree that Hunter is the dad and Crosshair is the mom
was good today episode, i still feel like this show could had been way better.
I still believe the original idea for this show was to be a anthology with each episode focused on diferent clones dealing with the new reality of the empire.
This show should have been about the Bad Batch, from the start, be a part of the Clone Rebellion key getting allies, seeing the Empire morph into the monster it will become with how it treated its best soldiers and seeing Palpatine's pet scientist make abominations and the cloning project.
It's amazing how any episode dealing with those premises are so damn great, compared to the monster of the week bullshit filler episodes.
This show had potential, but wastes anything cool on it.
>verification not required
I was saying this since season 1. This show is one big wasted potential. I can't fathom why they refuse to make anthology shows like Clone Wars. Lucas' live-action Underworld would have been an anthology as well. Massive in scale, jumping around the galaxy, lots of interesting characters and stories, not this same stale shit with ughmeegah doing another odd job for Cid that is either a monster hunt or a treasure hunt. Big shame. You could have made an entire season about different clone commanders and battalions alone, like you made an ep about Cody. Could have made episodes about Bly, Bacara, Appo, Neyo, Fox, Delta Squad. Can have political episodes with Chuchi and Bail on Coruscant. Can have Rebel episodes with Saw Gerrera. Can have clone rebellion episodes with Rex. Can have Darth Vader hunting down Jedi. Can have Maul and Crimson Dawn arcs. Can have bounty hunters. Like shit, it could have been TCW 2: Dark Times. Same format. Guaranteed success. I guess single cast of characters doing monster hunt is cheaper, or something.
It would take a higher budget and be less marketable with less time to develop all the characters
>with less time to develop all the characters
Nonsense. Crosshair had two episodes out of sixteen in Season 2, and he was developed more than any other character that wasted hours of screentime for nothing. Maybe they could develop characters if they didn't waste fricking time on meaningless bullshit that has nothing to say. I still can't discern Wrecker's character beyond his basic archetype that he's always been: big, loud, dumb guy with a heart of gold, who likes to SMAAAAAAAASH things. Hunter is still a reluctant fricking pussy, "You can't defeat them, Empire too strong :~~*" He's been like this for 3 seasons. MUH OMEGA!
The biggest problem with Star Wars is, they can make compelling characters with interesting backstories and motivations, but that takes time and effort. Something many in the writing room seem to lack, and instead of trying to make organic and original characters, we're going back in the past and in graves to jangle nostalgia like a set of shiny keys at babies because the writers either don't know how to make anything cool and intriguing or they don't want to put in the work in making compelling people or things.
At this point Crosshairs seems to be an anomaly/flash in a pan, or somebody's husbando in the writing room.
>or somebody's husbando
Yeah, mine.
No, he's mine.
You homies aren't for real right? The lanky bald guy who sounds like he smokes a pack a day? With vocal fry like an art-hoe?
The dick wants what it wants
Buddy, my husbando preferences have no standards at all.
What episode was this from?
The Solitary Clone.
>doesn't include the most kino shot of the episode
That episode has many a kino shot.
>silhouettes, characters in the middle of negative space, not too stylized widescreen
>happens only in the episodes with the most budget
When will they reveal that Roger Deakins unofficially consulted them?
>Wrecker
Really doesn't have a character arc to go through, he is who he is.
>Hunter
In season 1 he had to learn how to be a surrogate father for Omega, given in the 2nd episode he tried to leave her Cut, but later there were multiple other situations where he was protective of her.
>Crosshair
Got his development in the final episode of season 1, and then when he was stuck on the Hoth-lite and was shown loyalty doesn't go 2 ways with the Empire.
>Echo
Will always be the grumpy third wheel the writers don't know what to do with him. Really the only truly wasted character.
could have been the BB teams up with the Dark Times faction of the week
we'll probably get underworlds shit in the next show with ventress
Only crosshair folds his arms like that.
Clone X is a clone of crosshair.
That would be moronic and completely out of nowhere
They’ve done literally nothing to set up X-23 style clones
Also Hunter and Wrecker's clone are revealed.
oh ffs Rex, you didn't account for a clone spook with suicide implants to also have tracking measures in him?
They said they checked, but that it wasn't using traditional methods.
is there lore reason why wolffe is carrying around a tiny clone helmet?
It's to remind him of his long dead buddy, mini-me.
There are a lot of animation errors in this season. There was also a shot of Wolffe pulling out a gun and then it disappeared right out of his hand. There was also a shot in the first episode when clone commando walked into Omega's room for an inspection, and he literally disappeared right as he went past Omega. Walking animations are kinda weird this season. It's rushed, or the fact that they closed Lucasfilm Animation Singapore starts to show.
I could have been seeing things but I think Echo's scomp clipped into his head when he saluted Omega, too.
Was I the only one that thought the animation looked more stiff this episode? The lighting and art direction is solid but I agree in the animation department there are times when it's felt a little off.
>sure you can carry those supplies?
I love how even when Crosshair is genuinely acting the concerned familiar figure he sounds like a snide jackass
Maybe it's confirmation bias but I'm hearing Tech's speech pattern behind the Clone X's distortion
Also I feel like they've only let him survive this much shit because they wanna hit with a big reveal
I hope to fricking God it's not him, Tech had a great death, very poignant and sad. To just bring him back like that, as a "hey, he's not really dead, we wasted a very great moment as a "SIKE"!" would be really stupid.
Agreed
If they can portray it as the pure atrocity it is and be left with no other option than to put him down for good it wouldn't erase the frickery but it'd be better than letting him survive as Echo 2
I've said it before, it they do bring him back, let it be as a literal Hemlock Reanimator zombie. Something that was brought back wrong and is a legitimate affront to the team where they see he is plainly dead and is a mere puppet. That the Empire made something terrible by using scientific atrocities for inhumane research.
I hate that phrase so damn much, because if just how moronic it was. But damn is it memeable.
Somehow...
STOP
>Thinking he'd really dead
Did you forget the golden rule where if you don't see the corpse, they aren't really dead?
I still think it would be kino if all that survived of him was his brain and Hemlock is using his brain in a jar for his experiments.
Remember how Hemlock showed Tech's goggles to Hunter? That was him confirming that the Empire did find what remained of Tech and could've theoretically brought him back
I'm so fricking tired of this. Lightsaber stabs mean nothing, death means nothing, and Disney just keeps doing this shit. I can't even get emotional about dramatic scenes cause I know it'll mean nothing later
It would be weird for Tech to be Clone X just because he doesn't have any of the ticks of Tech. Also Crosshair said Hemlock took volunteers for the training, which would also explain why the treatment didn't work on him. Which is why I think a clone of Crosshair makes the most sense. Because Clone X's was never betrayed by the empire, so he'd be loyal, and his kit is that of crosshair's, both the sniper and helmet scope.
Plus it would be a perfect metaphorical way for Crosshair to both face and bury his past if he had to face a clone of himself that was still loyal to something he turned his back on.
My crack theory? After the Bad Batch's island home is taken over by the Empire. Lizard Lady comes crawling back with intel that she knows where Rampart is being held, so the Bad Batch go to break him out of prison to get the location of Hemlocks base and set up the final showdown.
The two ??? might have been the other prisoners with Howzer that got sprung by Echo and his crew at the end of season 2.
>The two ??? might have been the other prisoners with Howzer that got sprung by Echo and his crew at the end of season 2.
Could be unless those were Greer and Samson since they were the ones patrolling with Howzer on Pantora.
It's getting pretty late into season 3 already I'm starting to wonder if Cid will show up again. But characters from past seasons are showing up left and right for cameos so who knows. Didn't expect to see Avi Singh and Roland Durand again. The Millegi guy from the racetrack might even return for some small bit.
>It's getting pretty late into season 3 already I'm starting to wonder if Cid will show up again.
All Cid has to do is show up and give them intel on how to find Hemlock's base and it's free because she feels guilty about betraying them for money. It could be an even shorter appearance than Singh or Durand and it's a way to jumpstart the plot since they don't have any leads and Rex's group has been decimated.
tbh I think she might briefly show up to give the batch info about Hemlock based on her dealings with the Empire or some useful info and then she's killed by a clone assassin or bounty hunter like Cad Bane.
She'd better fricking not
Not only do I never want to see her scaly ass again (except peeled from her body and nailed to a wall), there's no reason for her to contact the Batch again. She should fully expect them to ice her if they ever meet
Other way around...Maybe, if they think she could help and are desperate, but I want the squad to never speak or think of her again
It's extremely clear she feels guilty for what she did, and she just has to contact them over their comm, not meet them in person.
Nah, I want them to have her try betray them again at the behest of the Imperials only for Crosshair to shoot her.
No I thought the same with how the voice would modulate to a higher register at times. Not just that but the music too. When Clone X notices Omega in his scope there's a pause on his face and the music goes somber. It's not like a foreboding or dangerous sounding track like "oh shit they've found her" it was more "oh Tech recognizes her for a second but then locks back into assassin mode".
Ideally I don't want it to be Tech because I think there's been too many fakeout deaths not to mention we already did that with Echo. But I'm kind of expectin it now with how they telegraphed Clone X this episode. And the fact that he not only survived but it's likely him leading the occupation of Pabu in the trailers too. I just feel like for this guy to become a recurring villain he has to be someone and we already unmasked two of these assassins so this feels more significant.
Also if it was Tech or Cody we'd immediately recognize them as assassins. Tech looks different to any other clone and Cody has his scar.
The real twist will be if it's a clone of crosshair.
Why aren't they all Crosshair clones?
Hemlock doesn't like to put all his eggs in one basket?
Rex is moronic holy shit. Whole clone underground wiped out. (Was this the first time we saw clones with proper ammo pouches and rigs?)
Also filoni can't help himself with this formulaic bullshit
>Ep 5
>Hey crosshair, you're an butthole
>Oh wait you did something nice and we fought together, we're cool now
Ep 6
>Hey Crosshair you're an butthole
>Oh wait you did something nice and we fought together, we're cool now
When is Omega gonna give Crosshair the 30 second long pep talk that gets rid of his PTSD hand shakes?
I'm pretty sure it's nerve damage from the conditioning attempts, not psychological
But I wouldn't be surprised if she managed to cure that too with the power of ToT
I think it's frostbite from that planet. He hasn't taken his gloves off, even when Omega asked him to.
>Frostbite on his hands only
>when he wore no helmet for the entire trip back with Mayday
So that guy is definitely Tick, right? It's the first thing I thought as soon as I saw him.
I'm expecting but hoping it's not
Kinda wild the writers let Wolf and his crew allow the BB to leave despite the BB clearly killing clones in the fighting and his loyalty that lasts up till his return in Rebels.
What else can they do with him after this point? If he joins the clone rebellion and wipes out tantis why still trust the empire after? Do they just ditch him, and he meanders his way to rex and gregor later? Or does he think hemlock is creating his own mini empire and justifies the rebellion as helping the empire in the long run?
What really sands my taint about the Somehow Tech Returned hypothetical is how almost his entire character has been nothing build up for several emotionally manipulative fakeouts
And given how early season 2 genuinely managed to make him my favorite of the cast, it bothers the frick out of me
A shame that similar to Clone Wars, Bad Batch hasn't really tried to develop many of the movie clones. I understand they're more invested in developing OCs like Rex, Gregor, Wolffe, Howzer etc. but cameos from commanders like Bacara and Neyo wouldn't hurt. Maybe they've been taken to Tantiss to be experimented on because they worked closely with the Jedi and started questioning orders more.
At least they did more with Cody he barely got anything in TCW. And if he turns out to be Clone X from the latest episode that'd be a tragic end for him.
You gotta remember this isn't clone wars 2, it's the bad batch. Every other character is a guest or a cameo, the show is about the 4 (formerly 5) morons plus omeeguh
I hope not but it definitely has to be someone we know for sure, since I have no idea why else he would still be alive at the end of the episode
>Make a Bacara model for Clone Wars last season
>Only appears in the background as a hologram and is never seen again
They did him so dirty.
neat
The most damning thing I've heard brought up is how the Empire/Clone X turn up at Pabu
I can only conclude that mystery man (who announces himself as recently activated) is Tech and thus can offer up that planet as somewhere to look for Omega. He initially focuses only on his immediate target due to the new programming, but now being actively on Omega's trail will let him have the thought processes to remember Pabu
I'll be mad if they don't do the clone rebellion.
I WANT the final uproar of the GAR
I WANT the clones to show their superior training and experience one last time
I WANT the tragic fight that can only end in failure
I WANT to see Rex became a fat hobo on Seelos after leading his brothers in a failed uprising
We don't know what's in store past episode 8 since the press didn't get those ones to review. But that's a lot to cover in 6 20ish minute episodes. Maybe they can pull a lot of that off if they don't meander and go all in on the clone uprising in the final stretch but idk. We have Ventress too how tf does she fit into all that.
I'm a little concerned because episode 8 is apparently about Fennec Shand anf CF99 navigating some swamp planet. I assume the goal is to find out why the Empire is interested in Omega so hopefully that's resolved in the episode so it's not too fillery. Then we can actually ramp things up.
Episode 9 "The Harbinger" sounds like something important will happen in it. And after that we get another double bill with "Identity Crisis" and "Point of No Return".
Maybe Filoni is actually la creatividad and we'll have a Rex show because this man can't let go of his OCs.
A lot of people have been asking for a Rex/clone rebellion show and it does feel like they haven't done enough with him and the regs in Bad Batch. Plus that stuff with Riyo Chuchi helping the clone underground network and her meeting with the separatist senator feels like it's building to something but I'm not sure if that's for this show.
We're definitely getting more Ventress though. Her voice actor said Bad Batch is just an appetizer. Maybe that just means Tales of the Jedi type shorts though. But it could be that the next show deals with Ventress and the Hidden Path which is another theory. Alongside featuring Quinlan Vos, Maul and Crimson Dawn since those were all things built up heavily in Clone Wars. The clones could play a role in that. After liberating Tantiss they shift focus to helping Jedi survivors in the underground railroad as a way of making up for Order 66.
The order 66 survivors in question... uhh... ummm...
There's like fricking two dozen and they're all completely unaware of one another
>There's like fricking two dozen and they're all completely unaware of one another
George Lucas claimed there were around 100 Order 66 survivors by the end of the OT. We know he changes his mind a lot but that's a decent number. But the Hidden Path doesn't just move around and hide former Jedi. They protect force sensitive kids from being taken by the Inquisitorious too, giving them and their families new identities so they can't be found. And there's no shortage of force sensitive children in the galaxy so the Hidden Path have their hands full there. Ahsoka was working to keep younglings out of the Inquisitors hands in Rebels too. So that could be a premise for the show.
We know Barriss' voice actor teased that she didn't die in Order 66 either so maybe she's part of the Hidden Path to try and atone for her crimes. We know Vos was working for them. And again. Ventress soft spot for kids and protecting them from being sold into slavery and stuff makes it a job that'd suit her too.
>100 jedi survivors by the END of the OT
This Black person is moronic and it's a wonder star wars became as popular as it did
20,000 Jedi in a galaxy of trillions during the prequels. Probably 1000 or less after the initial enactment of Order 66. 100 by the time the Inquisitorious has spent 20+ years hunting the ones who got away.
That would make Order 66 like 95% successful in eradicating all the Jedi.
The number of jedi at the time of order 66 keeps increasing every time someone mentions it. I vividly remember it being 2000.
My mistake it's been 10,000 since the prequels came out. And no it hasn't changed afaik people are just bsing you. So there being 100 survivors would make Order 66 95% successful from the get-go. George flip flopped on whether there were 100 or 50 survivors after ROTJ though. So it could be on the lower side.
The general consensus is that most survivors were on the younger side I think; younglings and padawans who's masters sacrificed themselves to help escape. There are exceptions with knights and masters scattered and in hiding but it's pretty rare to see a master surviving Order 66 in canon. Of the Jedi Council the only survivors we have are Obi-Wan, Yoda and Oppo Rancisis who is MIA. Quinlan Vos is also a master but to be fair he was so steeped in the underworld and had a bounty hunter cover identity and everything. it makes sense he'd be able to survive.
In canon apparently there are 50 named Order 66 survivors so they've stayed consistent with the facts so far provided that number doesn't balloon to 100+ as they introduce more Jedi characters.
I just want this
even if they just coincidentally meet on tattooine
Since Ventress' didn't die like in the book her fate is open for interpretation I guess.
God I hope Vader chokes that b***h to death
we know that ventress is fighting the good guys because shes deflecting blue bolts in the trailer, the question is why?
maybe shes hired to get omega because the clone assassins failed?
If Ventress' pardon with the Republic holds up then yeah she could be one of the bounty hunters hired by the Empire to find Omega alongside Cad Bane probably. But she'll probably turn into an ally pretty quickly and help the Bad Batch.
Ventress' role might be similar to how they used Ahsoka in Mandalorian S2 where Ahsoka was able to give exposition about Grogu. So Ventress will hunt Omega, they'll get on good terms and she'll be able to tell her what an M-count is and about the force and stuff. Then they part ways.
or maybe fennec knows ventress and puts them in contact with her after doing a job for fennec in bad territory, and they shoot on sight because its ventress, they may not have known she got pardoned
Sheev sure as frick wouldn't give Ventress any sort of free pass
Yeah but if she was pardoned and then pronounced dead then she wouldn't on any of the Republic-now Empire's wanted lists. Plus she could just use a pseudonym and hide her identity to take bounties from them. It's not like Boba openly advertizes being a clone.
I think he would?
she's not powerful enough to threaten him by herself (especially with vader now), she didnt know too much and she isnt a jedi nor wants to be one
maybe she'll get confused for a jedi due to a lightsaber but at most all I could see if the inquisitors going after her with a job offer
Palpatine could fold Ventress in about one second given how Yoda handled her in the early clone wars.
>she's not powerful enough to threaten him by herself
Palpatine literally ordered her death, because she was becoming too powerful for his comfort. If he knows she is alive, she is getting Vadered.
only because dooku was going to betray him
That doesn't change, he doesn't like any above average force user going around that are not his selected apprentice.
>GAR
you're one of THOSE people.
WHAT people exactly?
Fish people, obviously.
>WHERE THE HECKING TANTISS!!?!?!
The Bad Batch literally know it. They was in it, either in first or second season iirc, before Hemlock shown up.
I was about to ask what you've been sniffing but I realized what was up
No, the training facility they rescued Gregor from is a different planet entirely from Tantiss
Is it REALLY that hard to find?
Surely there's only a couple dozen planets with that kind of flora in the galaxy.
That's a stupid stance, man
Why are you assuming the planet is documented in the first place, much less well known?
Even if data exists on it in places the Empire couldn't have scrubbed, it's clear that the Batch can't access it
that was a training facility on Daro, not Tantiss
try putting on captions since you clearly don't listen to dialogue.
Commander Wolf? More like Cuckmander Wolf. Was dabbed on by shadow operative 3 times, and then talked down by Rex, and Omega(!), which, maybe i wrong, but he suppose to have no idea who she is beside that she is target, as he know nothing of experiments.
Doggo.
YJK
That doesn't apply here. Batcher's a girl
nta but I had a female dog that'd hump her toys and other dogs.
theres only one bad b***h in this show
yawn
Any cute 'Meegas in these episodes?
I immediately thought of this while watching that Crosshair and Omeegah moment after the shuttle crash.
>Gregor got himself a helmet
Nice.
It couldn't be more obvious that the second assassin was Cody.
Look, I'd be overjoyed if it's actually Cody
But I don't like the vibes
>uses same knife
>rescues crosshair from getting choked vs. trying to choke him to death
>has been suspiciously absent so far
sheit homie I think you might be right
Anyone else notice how Hunter looks like Charlie Sheen?
Anyone else noticed that Hunter looks like Charlie Sheen?
How are they going to explain how Rex ends up the way he does in Rebels? The Empire knew in Rebels that he was alive and left him alone but here he was going against the Empire. There's just no way they would let him live after all this. The only thing I can think of is that Rex and the clones expose Mount Tantiss but Sheev pulls the same trick with Kamino being destroyed but agrees to let the clones live and retire as long as they don't bother the Empire. I have a strong feeling they're going to recton it again just like how they had Rex remove his brain chip after order 66.
Something horrible probably happens.
He'd has to have his will to fight broken to where he just gives up first.
Also it makes sense that the Empire kept him alive to demoralize any other clones from rebelling before they're all decommissioned.
Maybe Clone X is Cody and he commits a bunch of atrocities in front of Rex.
Most likely Chuchi exposes Tantiss and pulls off the Senate uproar which will make Sheev back down and let the clones go into peaceful retirement. It will also make sense why Sheev is so hasty to finish the Death Star, so he can finally dissolve the Senate that hinders his UNLIMITED POWAH and just blow up planets of those people who disagree with him, like we see in A New Hope.
But yes, it would be better if Rebels did not exist, and if we got a Rebellion show following Bad Batch with the same tone and animation, and not what we got with Rebels. Like that scene at the beginning of Episode 7 was kino, with Separatist senator and Chuchi conspiring in total secrecy, while some black ops Imperial operative comes to take them out. This is the Rebellion show I was hoping for, not Rebels.
There is no tension when it comes to Rex, Wolffe and Gregor, since we know they all live, so they should at least be willing to kill off most of the Bad Batch, sans Omega and probably Crosshair. If they all live and it's just Chuchi exposing Tantiss to the Senate, then it will be anticlimactic as hell.
You'd think the emperor would be able to gank Chuchi by now.
Chuchi mentions that the Emperor at this stage in his reign can't strike out openly at them but he can if he has a reason to. If the Empire can prove she's working with a rebel cell to undermine them they can go after her. Depends on whether she gets really sloppy though. Bail was able to get away with it for years and so was Mon Mothma but you can see the shit she's pulling in Andor to keep it under wraps. And the Organas are pretty secretive about their rebel activities until nearer ANH as well.
But I think with the way Chuchi's surrounding herself with clones on Coruscant and Pantora, colluding with former Separatists and openly trying to expose the Empire's crimes against them in the senate too, I think Palpatine could use her to set an example. Since this so early after ROTS it'd be a good way to scare the rest of the senate shitless.
They're clearly setting her up as the political face of this clone uprising, she's not coming out of this unscathed.
>Depends on whether she gets really sloppy though
I'd like Chuchi to go sloppy on me, if you catch my drift.
I walked into that one.
Why do people seethe so hard about Rebels?
It's have no redeming qualities beside Imperial female characters.
Also it's basically fricked over Thrawn big time.
>esl moron is a EUnuch
Checks out.
>EU is... bad
Tell me you underage, without telling me it.
No, he's right.
t. Millenial boomer
Rebels is at least 50% boring.
Why?
I don't know how to explain. There is nothing ridiculous like the worst parts of TCW, but the first half of Rebels is just so forgettable.
>I don't know how to explain
Then you shouldn't have an opinion because you are a simpleton.
What is there to say? I could go on on why the virus arc from TCW is stupid, but Rebels is just bland "go do mission somewhere, some stormtroopers will shoot and miss every time and everything will be ok in the end", with Ezra being an annoying kid the whole time.
Black person what, the first half of Rebels is the Vader kino
There are cool moments here and there, but it's mostly bland.
Takes too long to get going, goes off the rails when Ashoka shows up, crashes and burns after Maul dies.
The real bullshit was the empire not glassing the Lothar after their giant command base that controlled the planet got blown up killing every imperial and Thrawn and his fleet got kidnapped by space whales.
>But mum death star got destroyed! Empire is busy!
Bullshit, you can get together a few star destroyers and have them bombard the planet for a few days. Rebellion symbol crushed.
Disney canned Clone Wars to make a low budget Kids show thats 90% filler. They also killed the Grand Inquisitor in the first season which is kind of lame when Kanan is a scrub and then the upcoming Inquistors are just lame.
Anything in Disneywars coasts off the good spirit and creativity of stuff created during the Lucas era and they promptly shit on it anytime they could get including that awful last season of Clone Wars they brought back to milk where 4 of the episodes included space mexican feminists.
Its also clear disney wanted them to copy the style and setting of a New Hope while also having a diversity politics casts forced into rebels and anywhere they can throw into star wars.
Also the art style was god awful.
the real question is why do many consider it BETTER than TCW?
>failed to imitate the style they were going for
>worse than tcw season 1 quality animation despite just coming off tcw's later seasons
>coasts on TCW characters, only Kanan and Hera were considered well written even by people who liked the show
>plot is glue for pretty much any other media in star wars rather than their own
They only found their footing as a TCW final season by closing their arcs like for ahoska and vader, maul, Rex, hondo etc. Take those out and the show is really lacking.
I'l give it points for Luminara, and Vader first meeting the rebels, but everything after that is TCW extension or bad filler.
To me it's like Filoni is emulating Avatar The Last Airbender in Star Wars but without the budget or scope. But some people liked that because it follows a set group of characters from start to finish and it's a pretty traditional Rebels vs Empire story with Jedi in animation. Then TCW fans generally liked the callbacks to that show too. It's not hard to see the appeal.
Clone Wars was an anthology series so that wasn't everyone's thing. And as much as I liked and preferred it they could've done more with the characters on that. A lot of arcs only scratch the surface. Rebels because it didn't have the budget focused on the characters a lot more which lends itself to a lot of filler type episodes.
The show tells enough of it's own story when it comes to Kanan and Ezra I think. It's more Sabine and Hera that build off of Clone Wars stuff and have less of an arc. Sabine especially was a mess. Late into season 3 when they train her with the darksaber it felt like they started to nail down her character and with Ahsoka she's improved. But before that I think she was a mary sue in a lot of the ways people complained about Rey.
>they started to nail down her character and with Ahsoka she's improved
nobody improved in the ahoska show if that's what youre suggesting. unless you mean the character in rebels then maybe (I hate D-SW titles so fricking much)
Nah they made Sabine more flawed in the live action Ahsoka series, leaned into her stubbornness and had her fail a lot. Made her more like a younger Anakin or Ahsoka to fit that master apprentice dynamic she has with Ahsoka now. They started to get into that late into Rebels with Trials of the Darksaber but for most of that show Sabine was just bland and good at everything.
Sabine is a rare instance where I prefer her live action version over her animated one.
>leaned into her stubbornness
And the story rewards her for it every time.
>and had her fail a lot
And in classical Mary Sue fashion, even her failures are beneficial. Even when she's ambushed and outgunned, she just lets herself get shot over and over again like Mando until she stumbles into killing everyone effortlessly.
If you like anything about Asoka, you should be compelled to post under a tripcode so people know to disregard literally everything you say.
Sabine is flawed in Ahsoka. Her stubbornness is clearly something Ahsoka is wary of and that'll be explored in the next season as her strength in the force grows. Her commitment to finding Ezra got her that far but now they're trapped in another galaxy so she was rewarded and then punished. Frick sake Luke's failures are beneficial, he offered himself to the Emperor to help his friends and nearly died and it was Vader that pulled him out of that. You're just being selective about it with the "muh mary sue" bs.
Ahsoka's not a great show but Sabine's arc is fine in the tradition of past SW heroes. Not to mention her whole family was nuked. "Ah but such a mary sue everything works out for her". She's living in Ezra's old house wallowing in the past with her cat. She's basically pulling a TLJ Luke Skywalker.
>Sabine gives the star map to Thrawn to find Ezra
>assuring that Thrawn gets back into the regular galaxy
>AKA, the thing Ezra didn't want done in the first place and made his sacrifice in the series finale worthless
Somehow Luke sacrificing himself to the Emperor is comparable to that? You know what anon, get a trip so I can block you like that other anon said, because you legit think Sabine got better in the Ahsoka series because she has "flaws"?
>verification not required
>asking for people to use trips to block them
absolutely seething, this isn't twitter.
I just don't want to see your moronic bullshit being spewed, simple as.
homie, did we watch the same show here? Sabine was just like her cartoon self, but with the added "oh, now she can use the Force!" bullshit.
when exactly did she fail?
She got stabbed by a saber through the gut and healed in like a day. She literally gave the bad guys a method to reach the uber bad and let him leave because 'muh friend' and helped him leave, what trapped on a planet we know she'll leave is a failure now?. Then got the force because why not add a 20th item to her resume.
Interesting premise, the fledgling beginnings of the Rebellion against the Empire with a mercenary group who were at first doing their own thing and it slowly morphed into them becoming members of the Rebellion proper, and then it just became TCW cameos and old storylines they wanted finished so it got shoved into Rebels. The Ghost Crew became obnoxiously plot armored to the point it became a chore to watch because, unless the antagonist was Vader, Tarkin or Thrawn(and I will b***h about him soon), the GC absolutely trashed any imperial opposing force like wet paper. At a certain point, it's not fun seeing the bad guys lose that fricking easily. Especially when the show consistently made the imperials a bunch of fools.
>Oh but the movies!!!
You mean the movies that are two hours long and have to make a cohesive story in that time? And Rebels was a TV show with over 70+, 22 minute episodes that combined is probably over a day of showtime? The writers just couldn't write and needed the crutch of old characters from past movies and shows to try and get people to continue watching.
>Thrawn
Thrawn became a typical "Failing was a part of my plan/Saturday cartoon villain" where the writers really wanted him to be smart, but they themselves weren't smart enough to write him and he was kind of a waste, compared to his EU counterpart.
I know I sound like a hater, but I did genuinely enjoy the first season but became disappointed that it devolved into the slog it became later on. Also, I didn't mind the animation, I grew up with late 90s early 2000s 3D, and the vistas and background art was pretty to loom at. The writing just became exceedingly boring and the GC plot armor was too damn thick. The Grand Inquisitor was wasted and he should have been their enemy later on, not season one and then done.
It's crap. Only redeeming thing in it is the final duel between Maul and Kenobi.
I have a feeling that things go fairly well but either most of the cast dies in the process or everyone lives, maybe rex doesn't call on the bad batch later because they finished their fight and needed to raise the kid. But seeing how there paradise island is gonna get sacked, I doubt anyone will survive.
Realistically it's incompatible with Rebels, not him retiring but the Empire knowing that he is Captain Rex and not immediately sending a death squad. Clones like Rex and Howzer have too strong a sense of justice to not try and fight the empire every chance they get.
Beyond that Rex is a terrorist whose crimes include.
>Killing imperial soldiers
>Killing officers of the imperial navy
>Aiding in defection of clones
>Destruction of billions of credits worth of imperial property
>Aiding rebel groups
>Colluding with Jedi
In Rebels the officer wouldn't offer him a chance to train cadets if this is semi public knowledge. He'd tell him he's singlehandedly a major reason why the empire got rid of Fett Clones. Rex hiding in plain sight does make sense though. All Clones look the same and not all Clones defected, a lot just became sad hobos like pic related. So a founding member of the rebel alliance being literally beneath notice to most imperials is smart.
The problem here is the Empire knew exactly where Rex and his crew were in Rebels because Wolf was sending them transmissions whenever he thought he found a Jedi to the point they thought he was full of shit whenever he sent them a message.
Something must have happened where Rex lost his will to fight, and the Empire decided it was better to keep him alive than kill him.
>Something must have happened where Rex lost his will to fight, and the Empire decided it was better to keep him alive than kill him.
But that's really out of character for the empire. Rex has defected, destroyed infrastructure, and has presumably lead assaults on imperial bases. If Rex doesn't give up the fight at the end of Bad Batch then he'd become a boogeyman for low ranking imperials and the perfect piece of propaganda for why the Clones were fazed out.
The fact that Wolffe felt comfortable enough to call the empire even if he still hated Jedi is also illogical based on Bad Batch because as much as he hated Jedi. He knows the Empire still would realistically want his two roommates dead unless he's gone completely senile and doesn't remember that they're fugitives. Granted that'd be fricking hilarious, but he's not depicted as a senile old coot in Rebels.
The only way for Rex in Rebels to make sense is if Vader spares and pardons Rex as a way to make him suffer
>He knows the Empire still would realistically want his two roommates dead unless he's gone completely senile and doesn't remember that they're fugitives
>Wolffe is completely senile
>Wolffe is barely even friends with Rex and Gregor
>Wolffe is one of the few clones who was still radically pro imperial after being laid off
>also delusional
>would report Jedi 24/7
>would show up to the nearest stormtrooper barracks dragging in a random clone he found with light hair once a week
>his rationale being that he has captured Captain Rex
>because of this the Empire doesn't believe him when he says he has Captain Rex and Gregor in his house and they're making secret plots with a Jedi on the holophone
>he's said shit like this for over a decade
>somehow relationship becomes affable
>still tries to report them occasionally
It makes sense as a 4d chess move by Palpatine, because what would be better, just killing off Rex, or keeping him alive to demoralize any other would be clone rebellions?
Sure Ezra unfukced him, but before that, he was serving the Empire's means pretty well
hmmmm
All or most of them are going to die.
Damn.
Rex is not dying. Wolffe is not dying. Sheev is not dying. OH-MEEE-GAAAH is not dying.
Batcher won't die most likely, cuz PETA.
That we're certain. Everyone else? Dig their graves
It's Ughmegah + Batcher + 1 most likely. Hunter giving me huge death flags given how Crosshair has effectively taken over the caretaker role, so he can bite the dust knowing that Crosshair will protect her. Wrecker should go blow himself up or something. Echo should die because he's not with Rex in Rebels, despite Gregor being with him. Although the writers haven't done ANYTHING with Echo in 3 seasons, which sucks.
homie couldn't gank Bail Organa for 20 years, a known Jedi sympathizer and borderline open dissident. Had to blow up his fricking planet.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if most of them live. Disney Star Wars can't seem to let characters die for real.
the clone assassin is Cut Laquane
Cut has known that sweet twi'lek pussy, conditioning won't work on him.
>Genetic material extraction and experimentation on Omega before disposing her like a used...
while we saw that a shot in the arm was satisfactory to getting the material they needed, how could it have been made more terrifying or violating for her being captured to drive home how ruthless and evil the empire is.
no holding back..
Please have a nice day.
I thought Omega wasn't wearing pants for a second I think my brain is broken
>Pantsless Omega
I wonder what the Tantiss issue underwear is like
given her Escape, Omega better be afraid at a second go around, with probably no Nala Se to protect her either. How pissed and embarrassed Hemlock and other imperials tasked to deal with her must be
Get the frick outta here gurogay
>why do the TKs suck? They're being trained by commandos!
this happens irl too, just because spec force trains 10 bum frick farmers for a week or 2 wont make them much better than if a regular grunt trained them. I love how the show tried to hand wave it by saying 'well gregor didn't like them so he (and probably all commandos) trained them wrong'.
If they do a raid on Tantiss, what would you like to see?
I think it would be interesting if somehow the Bad Batch hacks and takes control of a CIS Core ship or a Lucrehulk or something and suddenly hyperjumps to the planet.
I feel like it would beinteresting to see battledroids and clones fighting together against the empire proper. But sadly that wont happen due to rexs response to seeing battledroids in rebels
>If they do a raid on Tantiss, what would you like to see?
Exposing Project Necromancer and what it's aims are, and what exactly is in that backroom with the Ur-Kittat writing on the ground.
Hopefully people like Wolffe can change the minds of Scorch and the other clones on Tantiss and we can see the clones break free from the Empire completely, but in all honestly its probably not gonna go very well.
We sort of had that already in S1 briefly with the droids helping the clones escape on Corellia and obviously there was the Rebels episode with Kalani.
I just want Clone Wars 2.0. Clones vs clones. Class war of the regs and 99s fighting against the commandos who seem to think they're superior to the rest.
I mean, this show already retconned Rebels because Rex said he worked for the empire for some time before being set free.
It was also implied he removed his chip before Order 66 in Rebels so it's a bit of a clusterfrick either way. But from a certain point of view he didn't betray Ahsoka I guess and he is working with Chuchi who's an imperial senator.
I feel the one thing that fricks up Star Wars (mostly the spin-offs) is the insistence in telling the story out of chronological order while keeping the same few characters at the same age.
At this point they should spread out into the past and future, and not try to tie everything into the Skywalker saga
I mean, he technically was working with the Empire for like an hour
I'm just here to say I watched two seasons of this show only to be massively disappointed.
I guess all I wanted to say is I really desperately needed to see clones operating operationally and only felt like it was going to keep teasing the idea of it.
Where the frick was Cody this episode? I thought he was with Rex?
Nah, he's been MIA since Solitary Clone
Honestly I'm hoping he's been brainwashed into the operative rather than face the possibility of SOMEHOW
Frick I need to do a rewatch. Too much time in between seasons.
Why are they not doing a series in this animation style following the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia in the immediate aftermath of RotJ? Does Disney hate money?
I wonder if they are under some kind of mandate that forbids from using OT protagonists as more than cameo.
But making such a series set after RotJ is a mistake, I wanna see a TCW style series where Vader gets to show up often, so make it between episodes 4 and 6.
Doubtful. Leia and Lando were both pretty prominently featured in Rebels. And Luke in Mando.
All of these were cameos. I wanna see them together and as the central characters.
No
I think there's just a reluctance to use those characters outside of big movies. And even then the sequels had different leads it wasn't all on the legacy characters.
Nah without George I think Filoni and co are afraid of making a series about major saga characters. They tend to be more cameos or supporting roles like Luke in Mando. A lot of the time now they make stories with OCs with legacy characters sprinkled in.
I always felt like they seemed too apprehensive about using the classic three. Luke should've been doing so much, that's the case in Legends, but he's had hardly any appearances since Disney took over. Is Luke just "too important" to casually use? They'll use Anakin a lot in their shows, but not Luke
I know that they wrote themselves into a corner with nothing Luke did meaning anything, but they could at least show his early stuff before it all falls apart. Honestly I think a show about Luke's jedi temple where it shows Han and Leia as a happy couple and Luke trains Kylo Ren would really help the sequels be a bit more palatable.
Honestly, if the ST just had Luke lose half of his Jedi Order, like he left due to the New Republic needing his input on some matter and that's when Ben/Kylo went on his rampage and Luke came back during the middle of it and stopped it but Kylo escaped, and Luke made his Jedi Order even more hidden to the point Luke himself asked his remaining Jedi leadership to not tell him about where his students are until he finds out why Ben betrayed everyone and who shown him the Sith ways. And we see Luke during TLJ doing Jedi Meditation and doing some research on who he thinks Snoke is, it would have been a hell of a lot better than, "Oh Luke is a hermit after losing his entire Order and all the jedi he trained are dead!" the ST made him and his accomplishments become.
Same with the New Republic, didn't have to destroy the whole thing, just weaken it so the First Order could have an easier time in controlling a good swath of the known Galaxy instead of being in the Unknown Regions this whole time.
>would really help the sequels be a bit more palatable.
Please stop with this mentality. A show can't fix a shit movie no matter how good it is or how hard you try.
TCW didn't fix the prequels and no show can ever fix the sequels, all they do is rub on your face with how good those movies could have been.
Things can't get any worse for the sequels.
I'd rather them bite the bullet and actually do something with it rather than this dancing around it they've done for years with Mandolorian, Ahsoka, and Bad Batch somewhat hinting at it but not really
Either get rid of the sequels entirely or stick to your guns and actually try to make something of it. These half measures of bleeding the old nostalgia dry are just causing the franchise to stagnate.
There is nothing to be done with the sequels, they are just a roadblock that doesn't allow the story to progress after RotJ.
The only options that could give something that isn't shit right now it to make stuff set before RotJ or make a new Episode 7, but the latter is probably too much of a radical decision for Disney after they invested so much money into the sequels.
>There is nothing to be done with the sequels
Luke is dead, Leia is dead, Han is dead and sure, Chewie, Lando and the droids are around but those characters aren't really the same without the rest of OG cast, nobody really cares for Rey and it's doubtful we'll see Finn again after they screwed Boyega over, any new "threat" they bring in now will only get shit on, also I've noticed lately they keep saying they're still working on Rey's new jedi order movie but have nothing to show for it, wouldn't surprise me if it gets cancelled.
Notice how the Sequels didn't get a single show since the Resistance cartoon. It's a fricking worthless reboot that killed off any good will with the OT fans. Right now they're killing off the good will of the prequels/TCW fans with Ahsoka, and in the end the brand as a whole will be fricked.
>killed off any good will with the OT fans.
Ironic because the films were designed to appeal to the OT fans so much with nostalgia that they had no identity of their own and so no uniqueness to work with
The Force Awakens was OT nostalgia at it's worst. Most didn't notice the giant holes in that movie because it all felt familiar.
Abrams wanted so hard to make A New Hope again he ended up actually pulling the story back to ANH, and the franchise has been ruined since then. Rian was just an butthole who danced on it's grave.
this shit is on season 3? wtf, I didn't even know there was a second season. I thought people didn't care for this show
Shocked no one else mentioned Rex's base was that temple the Separatists took over to hold Jabba's kid when they kidnapped him in the movie.
Damn, they're scrapping the bottom of the barrel for memberberries
The TCW movie was so forgettable I'd never notice it if you didn't mention this
I think its interesting as its clear they are looking to tie everything together, its important to note that the entirety of the clone wars and culmination of the revenge of the sith is 2-3 years, it stands to reason that the last season of bad batch might be 1.5 years after revenge of the sith.
its a nice callback but I wanted it to be tied to ventress
i.e she was using it as a house
Someone posted a comparison screencap but otherwise it just a "hey neat, it's Teth"
Now if they wanted kineaux, they'd have had a good AA gun at the base or something and forced the Imperials to assault the monastery by climbing up the spire to have a reverse of the CW pilot movie
As it was, the river fight was awesome but separated itself from the defining feature of Teth, that being the verticality of the bases
Someone shoop the font into an IT'S OVER for that Crosshar looking down at his helmet
>A literal floating helmet next to Wolffe
Why did this episode have so many animation errors? Makes me concerned about SW animation as a whole.
Apparently they haven't been using this studio for animation in some time so it's not just that. Doing all the animation in-house though could've been what paved the way to this though.
They aren't doing all the animation in-house, it is also outsourced to CGCG Taiwan.
first blunders out of the entire show? at least the season
but outside of those, the animation quality has been 10/10, surprised its so good despite
>at least the season
No, there's been a lot of animation errors this season.
Just watched both of these like 20 times and I don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing. Are you sure you aren't just autistic?
First one you replied to has one of the troopers disappearing as they turn to the side as they walk in.
Second one has Wolffe's gun disappear after he takes it out of his holster.
The first one, there are two clone commandos walking into the room. The first one vanishes right as it walks past Omega's model.
The second one, Wolffe grabs a gun out of his holster. As soon as the troopers run past him, he isn't holding any gun and there is no gun in his hand, even though his hand is clearly rigged into a gun holding pose.
You are just blind and moronic.
homie a commando fricking vanishes into the shadow realm like he's a cartoon villain hiding behind a lamp post
the only one I noticed was batcher's placement in this episode when they arrived at rex's base. she's more forward and obvious at one point, but then the "camera" changes and she's not there anymore. only when they "zoom out" and everyone starts walking off do you see her again but she's farther back than she was just a moment ago
The funniest animation error is that one time they forgot to render Ahsoka's skirt.
Not exactly an error but my favorite one is Pre Vizsla wearing a poncho in Voyage of Temptation to hide that he's wearing clone trooper armor because they hadn't modelled the Death Watch suit yet. And before that it was going to be Dooku because they didn't even have the helmet at first.
wasnt it because this episode was animated along with season 1?
Yeah I think this and Cargo of Doom were made at the same time as season 1 so not all the assets were built yet. In hindsight that kind of explains why they sent battle droids to attack Satine's ship and not the Death Watch too.
the dagger ship used by the operative was cool
Why did they de-cute Chuchi?
It's called ageing. I'm not sure how old she is in 22 BBY but it's 18 BBY in Bad Batch. She's probably in her early-mid twenties now.
don't engage with the pedos
>different nose
>different lips
>moronic eyebrows that look worse than in 2008
>fat baby face
Yeah, right.
>reverse buccening
nature is healing
Clearly her new look was designed by women who have hit the wall hard and genuinely believe women look like this after only ageing a couple of years.
Considering the stress of knowing Sheev would love to disappear her ass if he got the chance, she should look a lot worse than maybe getting too much greasy takeout from Dex's
I might just be extrapolating from her short stature during her first appearance, but given that people are apparently allowed to become senators as teenagers, it's entirely possible that she wasn't even an adult at the start of her career.
Nah she was 16-18 minimum. You don't morph into this in 1.5 years with different nose, lips, face shape. They just made her uglier cause she was too pretty for the current year.
She looks the same. You have a persecution complex.
I still don't get why Sabine's entire family is dead when they don't even live on Mandalore and live on some snow forest planet. I can see some of her kin dying on Mandalore during its purge, but everyone dying is just really unbelievable and they just wanted further angst for this character, just for the sake of it.
That's not a planet, it's one of Mandalores moons. The Empire BTFO that entire system.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Krownest
was anicyworldin theOuter Rim Territories'Mandalore sector,coldand covered in snow.Mountainousterrain and evergreenforestscomprised much of Krownest's frigid landscape, and itsatmosphereproved breathable tohumans. A planet underMandaloriangovernance, Krownest was the ancestral home ofClan Wren, a legendary Mandalorian family whosewarriorspossessed astrongholdon the snowy world, built along the edge of a frozenlake.
It was a planet.
Anon is wrong about it being a moon, but he is right that it is in the Mandalore system and that the Empire raped that entire system. They snuffed out Mandalorians everywhere they could find them since they were the only army with the will and strength to challenge the Empire head-to-head
You guys are aware that Mandalore conquered at least 2000 planets over thousands of years, right? Remember the neutral worlds that Satine claimed to represent? It was all Mandalore's old holdings. This is why Clan Wren exists. They're the descendants of the war orphans that Mandalore created when they came to conquer Krownest. These are supposedly what most Mandalorians are apart from the ones who can trace their direct bloodlines to Mandalore, like Clans Vizsla and Kryze.
> They snuffed out Mandalorians everywhere they could find them
You don't know that. For all we know, there are quite a number of clans who survived the night of a thousand tears or never even participated in it in the first place and openly live and still occupy the worlds they've been living on the entire time.
>since they were the only army with the will and strength to challenge the Empire head-to-head
Mandalorians were never strong enough to fight the Empire head to head. Even with a united front. Put up a good fight? Sure. But the Empire's resources and numbers far outmatched the combined might of the Mandalorian clans.
Tell me, what's in this guy's search history?
But in all seriousness, what is this guy's endgame and what's his actual plan here? Also, does Hemlock know that the Emperor is force sensitive or is "m-count reading" just vague enough to a scientist to look for, but not go further into it?
hes just an autist that wants a comfy position with funding to spend on his manmade horrors beyond comprehension
He seems to me like one of those goal oriented, morale lacking scientists, who never ask if something should be done, only how it can be done.
And you know damn well what sorta hentai he is into, based on how his last research facility turned into a tentacle hive.
>clone trooper r63
>female clone fanart
>what is a delta squad
>zillo beast hentai
>invader zim professor membrane funny moments
He definitely knows. So does Tarkin.
Wait, Tarkin knows Sheev is a Sith?
Other than Palpatine and his apprentices, nobody outside of the Jedi knew what a Sith was, so his inner circle of people, with the exception of ministers that would handle ancient history stuff, like the guy in Rebels, would know or care and would think that Palpatine just has a fascination with historical curios.
With how similar his mindset is to them and how much he wants to keep Nala Se on a leash, I bet Hemlock has folders upon folders of Kaminoan porn.
Obviously Hemlock is part of the small segment of people who Sheev has shared information with
The man wouldn't give a shit about the Emperor being a evil wizard, in fact it's probably a bonus in his eyes knowing he has Sheev's support for all sorts of fricked up experiments
Also his hard drive is DEFINITELY full of holonet Kaminussy pics and creepshots from Nala Se's prison cell
I wonder when we'll find out what happened to Rampart.
He's probably in Hemlock's lab, playing in the titular role of "Poor little Imperial Officer volume 3, Backdoor tentacle fun Part 2." Bro is not having a great time.
He's been made the fall guy for a very public atrocity, so he's definitely still on the map, whether he's being given a showy kangaroo court trial or already been locked away in Space Leavenworth
Anyways I don't think he's actually important in the grand scheme of the show. He was always a upper middle management guy and disposable to the story as a mid-way obstacle
The one reason you'd need him to show up again is as a possible source as to the location of Weyland, but again, I could see him as not actually being important enough to be privy to that info
So that shadow operative that was blowing them the frick out was Cody right?
Cody or a clone of Crosshair.
>Rampart tells Crosshair in season 2 that Cody went AWOL
>Never see Cody again
>Cody is not with Rex's rebel cell
>Gets into a personal fight with Crosshair
>Survives stuff this episode when the rogue clones that were with Rex survived much less
>Uses the same knife Cody used in season 2 and uses it just as competently
Whoever this operative is, it's not a new character it's a clone that we already "know" and Cody makes the most sense, setups some emotional conflict for Crosshair and it's better than the alternative of it being Tech, let Tech stay squashed under that railcar.
the clone operative tried choking/drowning crosshair, when previously cody saved crosshair from getting choked out by a droid. I definitely think the safe money is on him.
Somehow, Tech returned
>Project Necromancer wasn't referring to bringing back Palpatine
>It was actually about reviving Tech because Palpatine enjoyed the race he did and wanted to bring him back to be the official Imperial racer
Palpstine's racing career is actually important to the story? wtf
>Rex's entire operation got wrecked by ONE Mkultra victim
Don't let his homie cook ever again
Why didn't he think to interrogate the operative they captured OUTSIDE of their main base? or better yet, wait until they get more manpower before taking blatant risks like that.
He probably has other bases. They were all hanging out in the Martez sisters garage in season 2.
I wish they'd use more obscure clone designs, like paratroopers or some of the unused designs for ROTS, like picrelated. The show has only used regular phase 2 and commandos. And Wolffe has BARC helmet, I suppose, but he's the only one.
He looks like a grumpy child in a oversized raincoat.
At this point the Bad Batch only seem to run into standard clones who're like the mooks for the Empire. They could've made Mayday a cold weather trooper but that would've defeated the point of the plot there.
Commander Faie would be cool though. I think he's been made canon but he's not appeared in any actual stories since then.
That helmet's shit so it's never going to appear anywhere. Additionally, the odds of us seeing new Clone Trooper variations is diminishing by the second.
>That helmet's shit so it's never going to appear anywhere
That's your opinion. Doesn't inform anything. Pretty sure the design is based on Ralph McQuarrie concept art like the TK troopers too so it's not far off from that and they used those in Bad Batch. Also we just got clone assassins. They can easily introduce new clone types in season 3 if they want.
We need to see what "the cavalry" in the finale consists of and how many clones actually join this uprising. They might end up bringing in a lot of it different variants.
>That's your opinion. Doesn't inform anything.
Except it does because the helmet has not been seen anywhere other than maybe classic Battlefront 2.
>Pretty sure the design is based on Ralph McQuarrie concept art
Four out of five designs used in Star Wars are based on concept art from 1977, that doesn't mean anything, and a design isn't automatically good just because it's 50 years old.
>Also we just got clone assassins.
Just because the True Believers are related to the plot.
>They can easily introduce new clone types in season 3 if they want.
No, they can't because the Clones are being phased out and there is zero reason for the Empire to design a brand new Clone Trooper variation when they don't expect the Clones to be around for much longer.
>We need to see what "the cavalry" in the finale consists of
Are you slow something? They're going to be Clone Troopers in Phase II armor. Maybe some Arc Troopers if they aren't all already dead. Maybe some Clone Commandos. Helmet variations for named commanders like Wolffe.
Why are you being so aggressively pedantic? I thought Faie would be a nice inclusion along with other clone commanders if they show up like Wolffe or join Rex's network towards the finale to take Tantiss. And Faie with his clone engineer armor has been made canon and even got a bust. It's not new from a continuity standpoint they'd just be showing a clone variant we haven't had on screen before in TCW. And I'm sure there were many like that. Literally the latest episodes introduced four new clones with unique paint jobs and killed them in quick succession. Not to mention Howzer who was on Ryloth but we'd never met him before in TCW. So there's nothing stopping them from introducing more new clones and armors in S3. Really I don't see what point you're trying to make.
>Why are you being so aggressively pedantic?
Why are you being such a pussy over a Clone Trooper helmet that's worse than every other Clone Trooper helmet that has appeared in any piece of relevant Star Wars media?
>It's not new from a continuity standpoint they'd just be showing a clone variant we haven't had on screen before in TCW
It's not about the fact that Clones are still around in this time period, it's about the fact that the Clones aren't going to be around anymore, and if they aren't going to be around anymore, we wouldn't see any new Clone Trooper armors that would all have been made during Republic times in a show set during the beginning of the Empire's rule.
>And I'm sure there were many like that.
Doesn't matter because The Bad Batch is about the Stormtrooper curb-stomping the Phase II Clone Armor helmet. The show is going to have a bad end for the Clones and showing new Clone Trooper variants is off-message.
>Literally the latest episodes introduced four new clones with unique paint jobs
New paint jobs, not brand new designs.
>Not to mention Howzer who was on Ryloth but we'd never met him before in TCW
Howzer doesn't have new armor. You are now moving goalposts because you stopped talking about new Clone Trooper designs and began talking about new Clone Troopers, and it's obvious we're going to see Clone Troopers we haven't seen before, we're just not going to see any Clone Trooper designs that haven't appeared in TCW in The Bad Batch.
ARFs are Phase I designs and don't exist after season 3 or whenever TCW stopped using Phase I armor clones.
>ARFs are Phase I designs and don't exist after season 3 or whenever TCW stopped using Phase I armor clones.
Incorrect.
I forgot about the dog dudes, they look like such shit there I was right in forgetting about their existance, I'm glad we don't see them again and I'm glad they won't show up in The Bad Batch.
lmao you're such a contrarian b***h, Smells like a LARP tbh
>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T THINK THAT THIS DESIGN LOOKS BAD! YOU MUST BE PRETENDING
wew lad
But Wolffe still has his unique armor same as Cody albeit with a different coat of paint . Why couldn't more clone commanders we didn't see in TCW show up with their unique looks like Faie or Neyo? On top of acting like an ass for no reason your argument doesn't make any sense. You're just looking for any way to disagree with people. I'm done here.
>But Wolffe still has his unique armor same as Cody albeit with a different coat of paint
Are you being disingenuous or are you actually stupid? All Clone Trooper armors, as they appeared in TCW or Episode 3, are free game for appearing in TBB. I said we're not going to see any armors we haven't seen before. I'm sorry you have trouble reading wordy posts, and I should have played down to your moronation.
>heh, you're just pretending when you say that this variation of this helmet looks bad!
Right.
>I said we're not going to see any armors we haven't seen before.
And you have no grounds to base this on. You just decided you don't like that idea and have been arguing the point.
>And you have no grounds to base this on.
You're see that I do if you didn't get actually upset when reading my posts. We're not going to see any brand new Clone Trooper armors because the Empire has no reason to make new Clone Trooper armors. The Clone Operatives don't even look like Clone Troopers, they don't serve that role, and they're part of the new era that's coming. You're now projecting becaue you think I don't like Clone Troopers because I said the dog handler ARF helmet looks bad.
>We're not going to see any brand new Clone Trooper armors because the Empire has no reason to make new Clone Trooper armors.
You moron the armors I'm talking about wouldn't have been made under the Empire. Neyo's armor is Republic era. So is Faie's. Same with Wolffe and Cody. The variants wouldn't be new in-universe.
>You're now projecting becaue you think I don't like Clone Troopers because I said the dog handler ARF helmet looks bad.
You think everyone who disagrees with you is samegayging? That wasn't me and neither were all of picrel. Idk what dog you have in this race that's made you this argumentative about some damn clone armor but get your autistic ass over it.
Stop trying to impersonate me. You're just a hater and you hate clone troopers.
>You moron the armors I'm talking about wouldn't have been made under the Empire. Neyo's armor is Republic era. So is Faie's. Same with Wolffe and Cody. The variants wouldn't be new in-universe.
Because thematically The Bad Batch isn't the show to show off new Clone trooper variants. You're making this about The Clone Wars in general when it's clearly not.
>Because thematically The Bad Batch isn't the show to show off new Clone trooper variants.
The show is more about clones than Clone Wars was. It's literally about what happens to them and the Bad Batch when faced with being made irrelevant by the Empire. So to focus on the clone army and all their different commanders would make sense. Especially when we're building to an assault on Tantiss and a clone uprising of some kind. This isn't a stormtrooper TK show first and foremost even if they are an element of it.
And why would you be in a Bad Batch general if you don't like clones and don't want more of them anyway? Weird mindset.
>The show is more about clones than Clone Wars was.
The show is about the end of the Clone era. Showing off new Clone armors goes against those themes, especially when there are 375 designs used in TCW that would evoke more emotion than just seeing the Engineer Clone Trooper helmet appear out of the blue.
>And why would you be in a Bad Batch general if you don't like clones and don't want more of them anyway
Where are you getting this from? Everyone that disagree with you must hate everything you like? What? Just because The Bad Batch's finale is obviously going to be a bad ending for the Clone Troopers you think I don't like Clones? Are you actually moronic?
wow you are actually moronic.
Samegay.
And also, where are the ARF troopers? Where are all the ARC troopers?
Rex's clones were cool with all the tacticool pouches and shit, but they were just phase 2 recolors. Add more variety.
I'm surprised there's been no scout troopers. Razor and Stak were part of Lightning Squadron under Commander Ponds and Mace Windu on Ryloth, they'd be a cool throwback. Or Rancor Battalion.
The paratrooper helmet design got used for Purge Troopers. Maybe they'll show up if Ventress makes too much noise.
Tech survived the fall unharmed
Hemlock just killed him because he kept calling all of his experiments cringe
Well yeah, seeing Hemlock's Nala Se™ Pussy sleeve molds get kinda get old.
Kek, its hilarious to me imagining Hemlock fiending for some Kaminoan strange.
>Omega will be found, Nala Se, and you will be punished for your involvement in her escape
>...
>Are we still going to have weird, kinky sexual intercourse like we do every night, Dr. Hemlock?
>You've lost dick privileges for a week, missy
>her face when
Hemlock's voice is normally soft, but he sounded extra caring when he first spoke to Nala Se when they met in that prison. God knows what those two were up to during the Clone Wars, long nights in the lab, frustrations and elation. Shit happens.
It's probably just me living vicariously through Hemlock, but I'd just think it'd be funny if he does have a soft spot for Kaminoan puss, Nala Se's in particular.
The idea of a mad scientist and his phlegmatic Kaminoan gf pretty much just ignoring the rest of the galaxy while researching, experimenting and fricking in their hidden laboratory together does sounds pretty kino.
It is kino, a mad human scientist and his equally mad alien scientist wife making abominations and having crazy sex is what we should all strive for.
>Hemlocks advances in the field of cloning has nothing to do with Palpatine and he uses it as a front for funding, he just wants to see if he can make Emerie have big breasts
>Big breasts on humans
>When he could be making even thicker Kaminoan females
Nah, human women probably doesn't even make his dick twitch. Hemlock has been Kaminoanpilled and has lost all arousal for human flesh.
>Verification not required
he doesnt like human women unless they're clones
I'd give him 3 days before Hemlock makes a breathy speech about how he was too quick to make punishments while in duress and how they can both work together to find Omega, but first they have to make a detour to his laboratory for "health screenings" first.
Now thinking about it, how come Appo and the rest of the 501st aren't in the show, given how Rex has such a prominent role?
Because Rex is already there and the 501st are supposed to be Vader's guys.
Presumably BECAUSE of Rex
Wasn't Appo basically Rex before Rex himself was created?
Not really, and that's irrelevant anyway. Appo was a Sergeant when Rex was a Captain. Appo was then in charge of the 501st, since Rex was appointed in charge of the 332nd at the end of the war. Given that Rex is an ex-501st commander, you'd think he would try to reach out to some of his old guys, or at least mention them. But 501st weren't even mentioned in the show. And Echo was also once a part of the 501st. Oh well.
Why don't you frick off already? Why wouldn't you want to see more clone troopers in Star Wars? There's no reason for them to show up because they were around before.
>But 501st weren't even mentioned in the show
Because the 501st are Vader's guys and are being used by Vader. If they changed that you guys would seethe.
Rex was created because they didn't want to use Alpha and presumably Appo. Similar to Ahsoka originally being Ashla from Attack of the Clones.
A lot of the 501st members Rex was close with he probably took with him to Mandalore as part of the 332nd. Jesse was there and Ridge who was part of the battle of Teth in the movie. So if most of Rex's brothers in arms went down with that Venator and the rest of the 501st is closely tied to Vader and his missions it's probably hard to find more of them to join.
>how come Appo
Because he's dead. Fricking Jett Lucas killed him in RoTS.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Appo
He's alive.
>However, their encounter with Organa distracted the clones from the approaching surviving Padawan Zett Jukassa, who managed to kill and wound several soldiers including Appo who was struck down in the lower leg by the apprentice's lightsaber.
Just wounded.
Why would a Clone LARP as a Jedi with those robes? Looks bad and inconsistent. That look only works for a Jedi.
Shut the frick up already, you butthurt Black person.
>everyone is just fine with the concept of female clones
anyone find this odd? normally you'd see some "THEY MADE CLONES WOKE" or some shit over the concept
Even if they're Jango template (which I feel the jury is still out on) they just...exist. No commentary or anything, and they have their own personalities and stories fitting in with the rest. Plus Emerie is attractive looking and Omega is cute. You'd have to be set on finding some small nitpick to be mad about to actually get mad at their gender rather than something like finding Omega's personality itself annoying
Omega is less obnoxious than Ahsoka or Ezra could come across in their first seasons, I say this is someone who liked Ahsoka early on too. Omega has a different personality to be fair though,s he's more intellectual and sheltered. Emerie too, while she is a clinical scientist, she isn't abrasive or unlikeable. She cares about Omega. So even she's sympathetic from what we've seen of her. Unless you're hating them on the basis they're female clones there's not much to a lot to dislike about their characters.
I can see the argument about Omega taking away the focus from the Bad Batch but I think she's baked into the story they wanted to tell with this show. And by making her the key to Palpatine's cloning efforts, it'll probably lead to the clones sticking one to Palpatine and preventing him from achieving that goal of total immortality. Which is a nice arc for the clones given how their overall story is quite tragic. But this way they do play a part in the larger saga and leave a better legacy that isn't just Order 66.
I love Omega too, I was just saying if someone were to complain about her, it would need to be for something other than her being a girl
For me it raised more questions and the idea that the Kaminoans having their own clones and experiments that no one knows about was pretty interesting. There has to be a reason she was brought in and doubt it was just because they wanted a female clone for the sake of it.
This however IS the expression of intrusive nonsense
The Kaminoans would have flushed this defect into the sea when it started talking back to the PM saying IT'S MA'AM
It would not even get to the point of Kaminoans flushing him. Trans clone makes no sense. It makes no sense for a clone, who's been raised in MALE ONLY BROTHERHOOD, who's been raised and taught to fight his entire life, who was not molested or exposed to degeneracy even once, to suddenly """feel like a woman""". The only women he's met in his life are Kaminoans. This is like pure delusion. This "character" was created for a Padme book written by pic related. Insane twitter activist. And the funny part is that all the other clones were accepting of "this", lmao. Yeah, right, the same clones who were nearly universally shitting on Bad Batch for being genetic freaks, kek. Just another reminder that Star Wars books are worthless fanfiction where anything goes, and one should not pay attention to it, especially D*sney garbage books.
dont forget that defective or reject clones are sent to work doing janitor jobs on kamino
a clone that fails its training gets sent there, yet apparently one who isnt thinking of war non stop is allowed to be sent to the front lines?
Clone 99 wasn't able to fight due to his defects and was a janitor for that reason. Don't know about that troony clone but if "she" is able to fight and isn't hindering the war effort, no one gives a shit. So long as you can shoot some droids, Command don't care what you wear.
Besides, with the hundreds of thousands of clones being made, of course you'd get some weird shit including one who thinks it's a girl. The only thing a clone hates is a deserter who left their fellow clones to die.
Because they are biological female (real women) and cute and don't seem to push any "message", and they are used exclusively as scientists and caretakers. There's nothing to b***h about.
It's not a crazy concept considering all the shit the Kaminoans can do. Especially with Clone Force 99 right there. It's more a question of why did they create them. But it's Nala Se and she was up to a lot of shit in her lab. She might've felt lonely or needed an assistant so she altered the Jango template to accommodate for that on top of making the Bad Batch. She is maternal towards Omega and gave her the Kaminoan headband thing.
Emerie might've been Nala Se's first attempt or she was given to Hemlock as a gift because he needed an assistant for his secret experiments who he could easily control. And Emerie was literally raised in a lab and has no life outside of that so she's the perfect assistant outside of using a droid.
Hemlock is fricked up and wanted clone pussy to be around him 24/7
Why doesn't he just get over it and frick clone boy pussy? I'd honestly find him less fricked up if that's the case. Instead of making dudes into girls.
Maybe some Kaminoans got bored before getting the GAR contract, maybe they wanted to make intermediaries for business deals that would be more appealing and familiar to business partners, or someone might have ordered a harem but couldn't pay up so they put the girls to work as lab assistants
I get the vibe that the space kiwi clone lady lore isn't important. But then again, I'm sure we can expect someone to try squeezing content by making an Emerie Karr spinoff
You need to consider that The Bad Batch doesn't get much attention compared to the Star Wars live action shows. People just don't talk about it at all. I think many just got tired of hating nu-wars in general.
Also, so far the show has never went into a preachy territory with the female clones. They're just there.
Though, one thing I've seen being claimed is that those who hate Omega are misogynistic. I don't think that's a fair claim, the aversion to her is mostly due to being a "Steven Universe" type character who is too optimistic and everyone just likes her.
>everyone just likes her.
I means she's a kid and well-mannered. Most people wouldn't take issue with her. I'm sure when she meets Ventress this season she'll find her annoying.
Her VA said Omega's ending is bittersweet and pretty definitive so I don't think it's going to be all sunshine and rainbows in the end. There's going to be a reality check. idk how dark it will be but there'll be something.
I think Omega is alright, but I see why some can't stand her.
who?
I know who is sperging out ITT. It's the Rebelsgay.
>tfw you've been in Star Wars threads for so long that you know all the schizos and their posting habits
>some homosexual is throwing a b***h-fit over a book nobody but him read
So much for a TBB thread.
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this theme is so good, glad we got more of it this week
I find myself actually taking note of the music in this show pretty frequently, which is fairly rare with shows
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His sacrifice wouldnt hit as hard without the theme
The Kiners have been doing a good job overall with the music on the streaming shows. One of the best things about Ahsoka was the OST. Just in the last episode with Bad Batch that techno music when Crosshair was fighting Clone X on the waterfall was great. Or the way they brought back the clone theme from TCW again.
Not a bad song, but I feel the only one who made music for Star Wars that is as memorable as the John Williams themes is Ludwig Goranson. (Michael Giacchino was good but it feels her was trying too hard to sound like Williams)
I'm crossing my fingers he will be back for the Mando movie.
Ludwig Goranson and other guy who did Mandalorian S3 and Book of Boba made a lot of good music but it leans a little too much into techno imo.
I think the jury is still out. Kiner was limited by network kids television and not having a full orchestra most of the time but when he got to let loose on Ahsoka I think his sounded the most Star Warsy, but it wasn't trying to be diet John Williams like Giacchino either. I want to see how he scores the Filoni movie.
Like I was always kind of eh on Ahsoka's theme because it was a minute long flute solo or whatever and the motif would appear a lot but when they made into a fully fledged orchestral track for her series I thought it was great. Baylan Skoll and Thrawn's themes were great as well. So I need to see more of Kiner in this streaming format now I feel like he's only just getting started.
It's just that none of the music from the cartoons has stayed with me the same way Mando's theme or Gideon's theme.
>Thrawn's theme
Well, except for this one. I think the organ was an amazing choice for him.
I'd argue not just the main theme and Gideon's but Grogu and Luke's themes as well mainly in the "A Friend" and "Open the Door" tracks but those were reused a lot for the Book of Boba training episode.
In a way Omega is like a genderbent Paul Atreides in that he was meant to be a girl but his mother chose to have a boy. Like Nala Se created a female clone with special blood properties. it's Omega and her bond with the Bad Batch that'll likely end up bringing down Palpatine's cloning operation on Tantiss. Like if she didn't exist they might've eventually perfected the M-count transfer but all this shit with her leading clones back to Tantiss will set the Empire's research back years.
There is a bit of a Rey parallel there too ironically with how she's the key to Palpatine's ascension but it's not what she is that makes her special or defines her it's her training the batch gave her and her optimism. She is underrated and might be the best Disney SW heroine by the time this series is over.
I dunno, bro. She is like literally a walking MacGuffin. I can't see her as a real character or a person, who just happens to be in the plot. She is like this mysterious plot device. And she doesn't have any real character flaws. She is this giga morally pure child trope who wants to help everyone and she always gets away with it. I've come to tolerate her, instead of being annoyed that she steals the show and precious runtime that could have been spent on actually interesting things and other clones. But I doubt I'll ever like her. She gives the show the "disney feel."
>She gives the show the "disney feel."
My fear when I saw the trailers was that she'd be a baby Yoda type mascot for the Bad Batch but she's been the glue holding the team together and driving the plot. And she was very sheltered I can forgive some naivete. That is her strength and her weakness.
I think yeah they could've aged her up and given her more of an edge. But I think the point is they're fighting to give her a childhood. But she isn't completely helpless like Grogu and just there to act cute.
It's not a clone story for everyone if you don't want to see them doing more paternal stuff and trying to find a life outside of being a soldier, but Bad Batch is more about how they adapt and change. To get a show about clones doing more clone things we'd need another Clone Wars series or anthology thing.
Also it's weird there's no clone novels or comics in canon. Does Filoni have some embargo on them like Ahsoka?
Sure, she's a plot device, and the show knows it
But she's a plot device that has a character
Yeah, she's optimistic can-do magic girl. She's a trope. I guess the fact that she can talk puts her one step above Grogu. But they are essentially the same, and the plot of two shows is also in essence the same: grizzled cynical warrior takes care of a child who is wanted by the Empire for its blood so they can do some cloning shit. Bad b***h is elevated by all the other stuff, not Bad Batch (sans Crosshair) and Omega. The latter is only interesting to women on twitter and tumblr, who are all about OOHHHHHHH HE HUGGED HER :333333 OHHH I AM SO WET
I just wish she was a little more capable. Like in this episode she doesn't get a "real" gun, she gets a special little tykes plasma crossbow. She's never able to do much of anything without the real adults to bail her out.
At least Clone Wars Ahsoka could do stuff on her own.
Also lately the whole kidnapping plot is getting kinda tiresome
Ahsoka was also old enough to get beaten, electrocuted and enslaved. She also experienced real loss in the first fricking season. The problem with OHMEEGAH is that she can't be physically beaten (one time she only got stunned by Scorch, that's it), and she hasn't gotten a fricking reality check still, even after Tech's death. She ALWAYS wants to save everyone and she always gets away with it. Like b***h, when are you gonna become a little more grounded and get a reality check that you can't save everyone? When is she going to massively fail at something? She is a disney magic girl and it's kinda tiresome.
>Girl boss learning about the reality of the universe
I think they balanced that out by having her be pretty capable escaping Tantiss, working with Crosshair to pilot the ship and stuff. Then after that she gambles to get their money using her skills they established in S1, and again she works with Crosshair to escape and pilots the ship which is something we saw Tech teaching her in S2. So what she does do isn't unearned.
I do agree the kidnapping plot has been overdone it's happening every season but I guess the point is that the Empire will not let her or CF99 go they're going to have to confront them and stop running. And Omega being less capable than Ahsoka is expected she's not a Jedi. As far as we know outside of her blood being special she's an ordinary kid. But hopefully as this season goes on we'll see her putting the Bad Batch's training to use more.
I imagine its because the show creators are worried about the implications of having a little girl go around with her own firearm. By making it a stupid looking crossbow thing it has enough separation from looking like a gun that most people won't stop and think on it. Also, fricking imagine if Bad Batch included a scene where Omeeguh straight up fricking killed a guy in self-defense? That would be fricking nuts.
Also this. Omega has some ridiculous fricking plot armor because she's a little girl and most people don't like the idea of seeing a little girl get the shit kicked out of her in a life or death situation.
I need a scene where Omega tries her usual moralhomosexualry on Scorch, and he just does webm related to her.
On the subject of "Crosshair X"
1. There's no way for there to BE a clone of him, at least not one anywhere near grown
2. That wouldn't have nearly as much narrative weight as the operative being a former comrade twisted into a tool of the Empire
reintroduce spartii cylinders into canon
With the way the other clone acted when he saw Crosshair, combined with the fact the Clone X was sniper has me thinking that its definitely a clone of Crosshair. Do think it would be better if it was Cody, though
The operatives have ALL been trained as snipers, that's part of the assassin thing, and two of the three we've seen haven't been Crosshair
Why would they even bother with converting people with the brainwashing if they had Crosshair clones ready or immediately to be
>With the way the other clone acted when he saw Crosshair
You mean Howzer?
homie he was mad at Crosshair because he fricked him over on Ryloth
The clone assassin they had tied up.
Okay? So he knows Crosshair from Tantiss, probably met during their imprisonment before he was brainwashed. Why would a mind melted clone operative be told about some bizarre scheme to clone this other clone?
Except Crosshair said the clone assassins were True Believers of the Empire who all willingly underwent treatment.
Same point stands. If they're just recruiting anyways, why bother with making another Crosshair
>Why bother making a clone of a guy who was genetically engineered to be one of the best Snipers in the galaxy.
You tell me.
Same reason they stopped cloning for the Empire's main army? The clone spooks are meant to be deadly but disposable, and custom growing them is expensive and time consuming
There's a huge difference between cloning an entire army and cloning a super specialized assassin, also Hemlock was given a blank check by Palpatine as well. The comparison is not applicable.
>also Hemlock was given a blank check by Palpatine as well
Why are you disingenuous? Hemlock is retrofitting the Clones for his own purposes. Any cloning that maybe be done this season will be Palpatine-related, and not xXxXdArKcLoNeTrOoPeRXxXx related. Meaning there is zero reason for a new Jango Fett to be created inside Hemlock's labs.
Why are you both projecting and setting up a terrible strawman by claiming Hemlock has his own genetic template for a new Jango Fett?
Again, Crosshair's clone would be related to Project Necromancer so it's not to create a new clone army, but to have something that's usable for Palpatine when they create a clone of him. You also assume Palpatine wouldn't be paranoid enough to let his body be cloned before the treatment was perfected.
>Admiral Rampart
Has been out of the picture for a while. The operatives are under Hemlock's command and you don't know if it's just clones of Palpatine, since you need to extract their memories as well to put them into a new clone. Doing that someone like Crosshair makes perfect sense. So your basis is without any merit.
>UH! NO YOU'RE WRONG UH PALPATINE'S CLONE IS GOING TO BE A JANGO FETT CLONE!
lmao what a fricking moron hahahahahahah
No. The senator one shows up in season 2, and I think maybe they mention that the Kaminoans have colonies somewhere or something.
I don't recall any mention of colonies, and Burtoni says (or tries to bluff) that the few remaining of her species mean nothing to her. Given how basically nobody even knew Kamino existed up until the Clone wars I don't imagine they were out in force in the galaxy
Picture Bad Batch gives me is that the few that happened to be off planet before it was nuked are all that's left
I'd scold you for not remembering characters but honestly nah I don't blame you for forgetting that homie in season 2
It has been a long time since I watched the show. It's quite weird this is the first time I had to wait to watch something from Star Wars. (Ahsoka came out before but I was never really excited for it)
On Kamino, they did visit an abandoned Kaminoan colony in an earlier episode when they went after Cad Bane.
Oh, that. I'd call that more of a research outpost, and of course put emphasis on the abandoned part
Not that there's absolutely no Kaminoans anywhere, but I think Kamino itself was where the vast majority of their species was
>Green texting
>Another strawman
>Ad Hominem
If you're going to have a mental break down like this, have a little more dignity, this is Cinemaphile, not /misc/.
And since it's clear you aren't arguing in good faith, and just here to shitpost either through prideful ignorance, or just to be contrarian. For the benefit of everyone else reading this allow me to better explain why Hemlock would clone Crosshair.
Project Necromancer final goal is to create a clone of Palpatine, that's extremely clear from the information we have. And the major obstacle is creating a clone where the M-count doesn't degrade. There's also a non-addressed issue of how do you transfer the memories of a person to their clone as well. Hemlock would need to solve that issue and this is why he wouldn't necessary have to create just clones of Palpatine for Project Necromancer to solve this problem. I strongly down Palpatine would approve of creating a clone of him with his memories while he's still alive even without the M-count issues. This is why Hemlock would create a clone of Crosshair and then transfer Crosshair's memories into it. It not only does A. Prove you can transfer memories so when the time comes, Palpatine could be fully cloned with his memories. But B, give Hemlock an elite clone agent to do his wetwork operations.
It's completely separate from the M-count problem, which would be solved with Omega's Genetic material, but that's a totally separate issue from a Crosshair clone. Now if anyone else wants clarification, I'd be happy to give them.
tl;dr, Hemlock needed to make sure he could transfer the memories of a host to a clone. So he created a clone of Crosshair to make sure the process was viable and could then use it on a clone of Palpatine when the times come.
The Crosshair clone was just a byproduct of testing which Hemlock could use for other purposes and is not meant to be a template or further cloned.
Turns out that Palpatine in TROS is actually a Jango Fett clone. Crazy.
>Still sticking to his strawman because he's been thoroughly BTFO on the merits of there being a clone of Crosshair
Doubling down and screaming that someone has been BTFO doesn't make it so, especially when all you have is conjecture and the most ridiculous segways everyone's ever seen. I get that this is supposed to be wacky funny haha dorky nerd talk but c'mon you look like a fricking moron right now.
Actually it does if all you have is a strawman and can't refute on the merits.
But keep throwing a tantrum over it.
Let me just circle back
Not saying they'd be no in universe reason at all to keep Crosshair's skills around in new clones, I simply don't think the story beats for this show would lead into such a reveal
>Clones
If you read my post properly, it would be a clone. Singular, because it was the one created by Hemlock to prove you can transfer the memories of a host to a clone, where he'd then apply that research to a Palpatine clone.
And instead of disposing of the clone of crosshair he kept it to turn him into one of his operatives since Crosshair's nature is to be is super loyal, as long as you don't betray him.
And let's face it, people would be less shocked if the clone agent turned out to be Cody or Tech since that's what they're expecting now.
lol
Do you guys hate clones or something? Why are you being so argumentative on a thread about cartoons?
homie stop
We're being autists about in universe details, you're just being a plain autist. We can argue about human resources in the Galactic Empire if we fricking please
Because the Jango Fett clones die out and The Bad Batch is all about how the Jango Fett clones fricking disappear. There's nothing to support that the creation of new Jango Fett clones has continued after they blew up Kamino. True Believers are all about brainwashing some of the remaining Clones and putting them to work doing the nefarious fricking malarkey that the Empire needs.
That's irrelevant since Crosshair's clone would be a side product of Project Necromancer, which is still about cloning and Hemlock brought in Nala Se, you can't tell me it's NOT about more cloning.
>That's irrelevant since Crosshair's clone would be a side product of Project Necromancer
Wrong because the Clone Operatives come from Admiral Rampart, not Hemlock. Hemlock is handling PALPATINE's clones, not Jango Fett clones. I said there won't be any new Jango Fett clones, not any more clones.
Accelerated growth and Project Necromancer is all about reviving someone with their memories, so I wouldn't put it past Hemlock to use Crosshair as a test subject for that. And don't forget, when Hemlock first met Crosshair, he tried to cut him a deal where if he turned over all his intel on CF99, Hemlock would see he'd be set free. So he's clearly interested in Crosshair's talent, and Hemlock hasn't broken his word yet when he's given it so there's that as well.
Plus this season is all about Crosshair's redemption. Shooting his evil past self would be the on the nose way to do it. Or if they want to make it interesting, have Omega shoot Crosshair X to save Crosshair.
Every True Believer we've seen so far had a generic Clone face with a generic Clone haircut. Not every bad guy has to be a clone of so and so or so and so's father or brother or whatever. The only connection Crosshair has to the Clone Operatives is that he was the template for their design, in the Ryloth episodes in season 1 Crosshair is basically a Clone Operative.
Benni will return.
Imagine the clone assassin removing his mask only to reveal this little homie.
And it's not like fighting an evil clone isn't star wars material. Remember Luke had an evil clone during the Thawn Trilogy?
And it's not like fighting a giant evil otter isn't Star Wars material. Remember Han had an evil Otter attack him.
The Corellian Insurrection was serious business, don't be a gay.
The most kino music from any show.
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Frick, I miss no nonsense badass Gregor. Rebels made him a fricking giggling moron, and I wish he just died here with a kino fricking death worthy of a commando.
Wait. Its taken me a while to actually think about this.
Are Kaminoans straight up just extinct, now? Did they bomb Topica City with the population still on it? Did they have other cities on Kamino or other planets?
Its a pretty fricking major change that the Bad Batch writers were allowed to think up.
Yes, they outright say the planet's population was wiped the frick out and there's maybe a handful of Kaminoans left in existence
>1 minute apart
Yes, I added some stuff after noticing it wasn't included and a minor typo.
. If this is supposed to be a 'gotcha' attempt, it reeks of desperation on your part.
lol
Interesting that you're trying to change the conversation this way. Must be because you failed to refute that the agent is a clone of Crosshair.
At least you're consistent.
This is supposed to be a thread about the Bad Batch, maybe stick to that?
You should apply to be a janitor.
>Further deflecting
I accept you concessions on the topic. Also given your style, looking forward to a poor attempt at sealioning.
Regardless of what you do, the signs point to a clone of crosshair.
I'm more excited for the Jango Fett Palpatine clone myself.
>Back to this strawman
I accept another concession by you.
Hey man, tell the truth. Were you one of the people who thought that Thrawn was going to show up at the finale for Mandalorian season 3?
Why are you deflecting, again?
I just posted a screencap of your deleted post, you shouldn't be so sensitive.
I'm amazed there is more lust for Nala Se rather than Omega in these threads
It's just the same unfunny moron trying to push a meme.
Nope, not just me. I like alien girls, as do some others. Omega is kinda just there as a plot mcguffin and viewer stand-in.
See y'all next Wednesday
Until next time, bros.
See you guys around
Well, this season is half way through and I think it has been fine so far.
Tales of the Jedi season 2 is also coming out this year, I wonder what animated projects will take this spot after.