Why does this film has no cultural impact?
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The Batman
Why does this film has no cultural impact?
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Because it was boring.
It's a workprint not a movie
Because their take on Riddler sucked and wasn't worthy of the rest of the film.
>Because their take on Riddler sucked and wasn't worthy of the rest of the film.
kind of crazy that Frank Gorshin's Riddler in the Adam West tv show still hasn't been topped
Oh, he's been topped.
Actors, even comedic ones, do t have that kind of frantic energy anymore.
>three hours long
>everyone whispers
>Batman is a moronic detective
>Riddler is the most cringe character in all of cinema, taking a cool character from the comics and making them a cringe incel strawman from CSI or that BBC show
>Catwoman is annoying as hell
>the terrible Mayor plot
>putting Cinemaphile in a Batman movie
>Batman slams into a wall going fifty miles per hour and lives
>that cringe gliding scene
>Alfred survives taking a bomb to the face
>Battinson’s make up was shit
>cringe soundtrack
It didn't have meme-able lines.
Except Riddler became a fan favorite and the main thing people remembered from the film.
NO FUN ALLOWED
>Alfred survives taking a bomb to the face
batman too
Worlds greatest detective my ass couldn’t even solve basic spanish
Makes me afraid of how bad the Amazon animated show will be.
Flop movie with no competition. DC is pathetic and falling off.
Permanently changing the public perception of batman and is widely considered the best cape film since endgame by normies is definitely cultural impact. Cinemaphile is the only place that doesn't like it.
>Permanently changing the public perception of batman
lmao, what?
Normies now think of batman as the "no jaywalking" guy because of the memes this movie spawned. They've been really popular and the fact that none of you have any other source of social connection is really concerning.
>really popular
>Movie forgotten by casuals in a month
>only remembered as a shit film
spend time outside
>Best capeshit film
Not even close. It was boring as hell and got lucky because it had a whole month to itself.
I think Cinemaphile just doesn't "feel" the cultural impact because it didn't come out in their formidable years like The Dark Knight did.
I still think TDK is better and had some more objective relevance ("not the X we deserve, but the X we need" and "you wanna know how I got these scars?" are still memes), but people here really underestimate how much Zoomers feel Pattinson is their Batman and believe this to be the best Batman movie so far. It's hard for me to wrap my head around because this felt nothing more than enjoyable story with some narrative flaws, but I'm sure fans who were 14 in '89 also felt "look TDK is fine but Burton Batman is the real deal."
I wasn't even born in 89 yet and that's how I feel.
Born late 80s so I remember living through every Bat movie except 89 and Batfleck is my favorite so far. But when Begins and TDK came out they were very much the new hotness and everything else was old and busted, including Spider-Man 3 which was only the year before TDK. Then when TDKR came out it was old and busted and the MCU was the new hotness.
as opposed to the cultural impact of... snyder shit? NWH? love and thunder?
It was trying to hard to be Nolan's Dark Knight.
The dark knight was only popular due to the joker and casting. Batman himself was boring and a nonfactor in those movies. I remember banes’s ESL talk more than him.
theyre completely different tho aside from being grounded but even then the nolan movies are "grounded" like a james bond movie whereas the batman grounds the characters and also doesnt look dull
Everything about Batman was done to death even before BvS. The Arkham games helped dispel most of the mythos surrounding him.
It's a good film, I liked it
Because it sucks
Bruce was emo, a dick to Alfred for no reason and didn't even try to maintain a public facade to safeguard his identity.
Batman wears armor that allows him to to tank machine gun fire and explosions at point blank like it's nothing. Is this Iron Man?
But at the same time he can't glide with his cape, instead has to put on a realistic-ish flight suit that causes him to slam onto a bridge at full speed. Don't worry though, his Iron Man armor protected him.
They made the Wayne's murder a conspiracy which is usually a bad idea. They also wanted to make Thomas evil but didn't have the balls go through with it so it ends up being a weird bait-and-switch. Also Martha was crazy and an Arkham? Dumb shit.
Catwoman was raceswapped and whines about white people. Gordon was also raceswapped but ironically ends up being the best part of the movie, the way he's more casual around Batman was pretty fun.
Movie should have ended when they caught the Riddler, the whole final act with the flood and the incel army was garbage,
The Joker cameo was incredibly cringe and shameless sequelbait.
tl;dr it maybe like the sixth best Batman movie.
Why does Batman himself always get treated like shit in movies and parodies? He's either moronic, dumb as hell, or a joke that no one in universe takes seriously.
too derivative of the Nolan movies
>have to staple on another half hour of plot to the film's final act to turn Riddler into a comic supervillain so audiences don't walk away wondering why he was considered the bad guy when he was mainly just killing corrupt politicians
lol
incel riddler set a new bar
>I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you
>Let's put a smile on that face
>I wonder, what will break first? Your spirit... or your body?
The Nolan trilogy was infinitely quotable.
Give me a single quote from that movie. The only truly memorable scene is the intro where he beats the shit out of the gang member.
el rata alada is iconic
>batman's intro monologue
>"what is this good cop, batshit cop?"
>"NOOOO THIS IS NOT HOW THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO"
>"I'm vengeance"
Easy memorable lines that aren't part of some shitty philosophy course. The dialogue feels forced when everyone is trying to make a motivational poster
>Hi vengeance, I'm dad
I liked the focus they gave to Bruce as an actual character but I felt like the movie wasn't really doing much that was new. It just felt like Nolan lite. I'd wanted the next Batman movie to be more out-there and instead we're doing grounded and realistic again. Even worse if those reports about Hush being the villain of the sequel are true over Mr. Freeze now. Almost like Reeves is embarrassed to make a Batman movie if he does that. Not saying I dislike Hush but Clayface is right there.
Batman was always boring. The lack of strong villain's that carried him in the past where missing in this film. Even then, he was still the most boring character in the movie other than catwoman.
it's Batman 13, we've seen him too many times to care
shit if you count the old newsreels from the 40s he's frickin Batman 20 or something, who gives a crap
>Cinemaphile
Go back on Cinemaphile capeslopeater.
I had a great time watching it, I don't remember the last time I laughed so much watching a movie, they take all the edginess of the comics and go down there without fear, in result of that we got corny scenes between Batman and Catwoman, the Riddler and everyone having hilarious dialogs.
I lost it with the whole "El rata alada" bit and the two smartest detectives of Gotham coming to the conclusion it was referring to a penguin lol
The last act wasn't fun at all so I got pretty bored tho
huh? what are you talking about?
the kino yet memed batman monologing?
the makeup?
pattinsons jawline?
riddlers prison freak out?
maybe step outside and get a grip
>the kino yet memed batman monologing?
Detective noir trope.
>the makeup?
Curious thing to bring up.
>pattinsons jawline?
Also curious.
>riddlers prison freak out?
Funny how he has no reaction to being picked up by police, but once Vengeance says that he's not on his side, he starts screaming like a child.
>maybe step outside and get a grip
The irony is palpable, guy who thinks kino is a real word.
>Detective noir trope.
almost like its a detective noir movie. also its a trope in batman comics too
>Funny how he has no reaction to being picked up by police
part of his plan
>but once Vengeance says that he's not on his side, he starts screaming like a child.
not part of his plan
>the director promises it'll focus more on Batman's detective skills and be a proper whodunit
>Batman is at his most moronic in the big screen, he's a genuinely inept detective
>it's barely even a whodunit
If they just wanted to do an Earth-1 style rookie Batman, they should have just said so.
>Batman is at his most moronic in the big screen, he's a genuinely inept detective
Whether you like this film or not, I'm surprised how this doesn't get mentioned frequently.
>Batman catches Penguin and realizes the Rata Alada clue was about bats or even himself.
>Him later in the chat with Riddler: "Uh, it was Penguin, right?"
>Bruce finds out about Martha being an Arkham patient
>Instead of doing a research or even asking Alfred, he throws a tantrum and sucks Riddler's dick while the only family member he has is almost in comma
I feel like The Batman is a "pretty good" film with problems, but each time I think about it, the things I don't like about it (like the stuff you mentioned) stick out in my mind more than the stuff I liked. I'm like, "uh, I liked the atmosphere… the Batmobile scene was cool… Pattinson did as good a job as any other standard Batman… some pretty cinematography…"
But then I'm also like, "the plot relied on everyone being stupid, some of the cinematography was digital mud where you couldn't see shit, some bad dialogue, the third act drags, it is way too on-the-nose with its influences which just forces you to compare it to better movies, they introduce plot points just to immediately resolve them without letting them meaningfully affect character actions, most of the movie doesn't even try to set up the character change Batman goes through at the end, Penguin was just a goombah who might as well have been Maroni, they sucked the fun out of Riddler, Joker cameo was MCU/DCEU-tier sequel bait despite how much Reeves insists it's there for thematic reasons…"
Because “What if we Batman grounded and gritty” already happened.
bullshit. if it didn't i wouldn't be friends with someone who obsesses over this version of the riddler
>Black cat woman
Would've had more fans were she white.
Batman and Robin almost killed the franchise for good
Why does dc make ESLs so angry?
Not Snydershit. Indians love Snyder for some reason.
This movie would have been so much better if the pacing was better. It didn't needed to be 3 hours long. It didn't needed 3 villains (4 if we count Catwoman). The movie felt unfocused and the last 40 minutes were a chore to get through.
Why Riddler was on this movie at all? Not only he is in for less than 20 minutes but he felt so disconnected from the other plot with the Mafia.
If they wanted so hard to make a Year One adaptation... why not make a properly Year One adaptation? With only Carmine as the villain and maybe include Penguin too if you want so hard to set up his TV show. But oh yeah, talentless producers would never accept a movie without a major supervillain. I find it hilarious that they had to throw in a cartoonishly evil flooding to kill innocents at the end because otherwise Riddler didn't do anything super wrong the entire movie, he basically only killed corrupt politicians.
I wanted to call this Riddler a lame Zodiac ripoff, but actually they should've cribbed more from Zodiac, considering Zodiac was an arrogant haughty son of a b***h who enjoyed taunting the cops and being an attention prostitute which fits Riddler a lot more than a Cinemaphilener sperg with semi-sympathetic motives.
Too much like Nolan to stand out
It has flaws but its easily the best Batman film since the Burton films.
I liked it, even with the rain. Hidden in the movie is the terrible writing, waiting to strike like Matt Reeves. Two years of rewatching have turned me into a nocturnal viewer.