The binge release model killed media. There's no time to digest anything. Part of the fun was discussing things and theorizing about would happen next with other fans.
Releasing a series all at once completely kills that and results in good shows being forgotten because everyone watches them in one sitting so it all blurs together instead of letting each episode stand on its own
I miss regular programming.
Agreed. Its a shitty way of doing it. Also makes the show forgotten about after two weeks
You're a homosexual and you should be killed. Your desire to socialize is girlish.
All humans like socializing. It's how we evolved as a species. Humans have to socialize to survive.
Socializing with my friends about shows we liked was part of the fun. The binge model completely killed that. Can't discuss or speculate shit with my friends or other people online if it's all released at once
It's one of the reasons I've completely checked out of modern media, it's not as fun as if I can't talk about it with others
Start a homosexualy book club with you middle aged female friends. I'm not waiting months for the conclusion of an interesting story just because some anachronistic subsection of the population wants to go back to water cooler shows. The entire concept of streaming was meant to eliminate that bullshit. Are you a fricking Prime ad executive? You gauging how long after the pandemic you're gonna get away with trickle feeding already completed episodes to the public to prolong their subs to your service? Or are you just a fool?
If all you think about is memes, you having nothing of value to say. And if you can't comprehend plot and meaning in realtime, you're probably a fricking frogposter.
>The entire concept of streaming was meant to eliminate that bullshit.
Discussing it with your friends was part of the appeal of watching shows. If you just mindless consoom shit without digesting it, you're an NPC.
A lot of good shows are forgotten within a month because nobody takes the time to digest them
You're just repeating yourself. But with learning disability formatting. You're beat.
>And if you can't comprehend plot and meaning in realtime,
Literally nobody can "comprehend" plot and meaning in real time. You're supposed to take time to think about and digest what you just watched.
You can't watch something and analyze it the same time.
>i have a learning disability and need a week to understand an episode and its relation to an overarching plot
Girlbrain.
I know this is difficult for a Zoomer like you to understand, but people used to actually discuss and speculate about things.
That's literally how people consumed entertaiment for decades, and it worked fine.
The binge model is complete shit that results in everything being forgotten within a month no matter how good it is because no one has time to think about it before they move on to the next time.
He didn't say understand, he said digest. Learn to read.
by "digest" he and you mean discuss it with smarter people so they can spoon feed you the themes you missed
Imagine needing a week to digest anything. Your IQ must be in the low 90s.
The average IQ is in the low 90s, you fricking moron
Average IQ is 100. You're moronic. Sorry you had to find out on Cinemaphile.
>the kid who wants to watch weekly trickle shows is from the third world
Not surprised.
Literally nobody had a problem with "weekly trickle shows" decades ago. The anticipation was part of the appeal.
The binge model makes people impatient, entitled, and dull.
>appeal to tradition
Cringe. Now we get to anticipate an entire season and have a year or two to discuss. Why are you b***hing again, gayboi? Because your friends group in the general won't last that long?
>Now we get to anticipate an entire season and have a year or two to discuss.
You can't discuss an entire season all at once. That's the problem; it all blends together. There's no time to enjoy each episode individually. And nothing released all at once is going to be discussed a month from them, let alone a year or two, let's be real
Sounds like a low IQ you problem.
It's almost like I'm the one who belongs here...
Please tell me how the frick I'm supposed to discuss each episode if they're all released at the same time. The answer is that you can't, you can only discuss the season as a whole.
You start a post and you say "Remember this thing that happened in episode 3? Wasn't that neato?" It's not rocket science if you aren't a broken brained tranime viewer.
This is an anime website, you moronic homosexual, discussing anime is what it was created for
>"Remember this thing that happened in episode 3? Wasn't that neato?"
That's not a discussion
It's an example of how to start a discussion. A non-moron would be able to take that template and modify it to what aspect you want to discuss.
They teach it in school so the instructor has empty space to add corrections and notes. You misunderstood this because you have a learning disability. Normal people can read and comprehend lines of text next to each other. That's how books are published.
That's cope from people who are rightfully being accused of being infantile.
>I can't discuss something I've watched because the only thing worth discussing is the mystery box
Go take a literature course, you uneducated prick.
C.S. Lewis debunked that childish mindset decades ago. Real adults don't care whether they're "infantile".
>lemme just bust out this christgay who got famous off of children's literature
>he had no financial incentive to take this position!
Writing for children is exactly the same as writing for adults. The only difference is that you can't use sex, swearing, or gore as crutches.
>Hell, you don't even have to be good!
You do. Being for children doesn't give something an excuse to be bad. Children aren't idiots, they can recognize bad writing when they see it.
>Children aren't idiots, they can recognize bad writing when they see it.
Dumbfrick, most adults can't even do that. Look around at the world. Think a little bit about what you're going to post before hitting that submit button.
This may come as a shock to you, but different things have different target audiences. Something doesn't have to be good for everyone, it just needs to be good for the audience it's aimed at. Like how anime/manga has:
>Shonen for young boys
>Shojo for young girls
>Seinen for grown men
>Josei for grown women
Western entertainment to shit because it forgot how to divide things into distinct categories, everything tries to appeal to everyone now and thus ends up appealing to no one
>gets told to think
>posts anime
Guess that wasn't ever gonna happen, huh?
Anime website, Black person. If you don't like anime, you don't belong on this site.
We already went over this:
Anime never died, so your argument is invalid. It's still going strong. Anime and manga are outperforming western entertainment by a huge margin.
>Anime never died
You'd be extremely lucky if Cinemaphile is even the 4th most popular board on this "anime" site. I'm not even going to pretend the second half of your post is serious.
What have you written anon? Other than a reddit post I mean.
>no one can criticize something if they don't do that thing
Guess I can't talk shit about you raping kids, huh?
>It's an example of how to start a discussion. A non-moron would be able to take that template and modify it to what aspect you want to discuss.
A discussion that's nothing like the high quality ones I used to partake in back in the day. It's a very shallow form of discussion.
Judging from the rest of your posts in this thread, you've never had the ability to partake in high quality discussions. You're not even aware of when you're being fallacious.
Because at nearly 400,000 unique users a day this site is relegated to anti social narcissists just like you. Get fricking real.
How is streaming any different from ppl binging BOXSETS of entire shows? It actually removes that initial excitement of shared adventure in digging into a new show together, combing every detail if the plot, characters are worth the time suck. You are anti-human and act like binging a series was never an option before. BOT
If cliffhangers were a bad thing, they wouldn't have lasted this long. That's the way writing works. Things that work continue to be done, things that don't work stop being done.
There's a reason why mystery novels with shitty twists like "the butler did it" are a thing of the past
Evolution is just a theory.
>All humans like socializing
>le humans
You talk like a gay and your shits all moronic. Some people just want to watch a show or movie and gossip about it like a hen.
I stopped caring about game of thrones because I'd read what people were saying here in the /got/ generals and then try to talk to my friends and they would sperg out about spoilers like fricking homosexuals even though I wasn't revealing any new information
You sound like a moronic homosexual.
The problem is that modern western media is slop, not that people stopped talking about it in an enjoyable way to you.
20 years ago, I started watching seasonal anime. Back then, Cinemaphile was occasionally good, and you could get some discussion going. Other people? Anyone stupid enough to out themselves as a weeb was of the atrocious fat autistic moron variety, and they weren't worth talking to. Fast forward to today. CR made anime easier for the masses, now Cinemaphile is filled with moronic children who can't string a sentence together, anime discussion is absolutely dead in the west. I still watch a bunch of shows every season. The show itself is fun, not shitposting about it with idiots. You checked out of western media because it got fricking boring and filled with Black folk and trannies, who are actively unpleasant to look at.
Everyone on this website watches anime.
Also there's no such thing as "anime". It's just the Japanese word for animation. To Japanese people, Spongebob is an anime.
yeah because of people like you the discussion about anime is dead.
Discussing it with your friends was part of the appeal of watching shows. If you just mindless consoom shit without digesting it, you're an NPC.
A lot of good shows are forgotten within a month because nobody takes the time to digest them
friends? watchin anime and ahving friends? That's exactly what npc would say.
Anime is an English loanword for Japanimation. Just like バイキング (viking) is a Japanese loanword for buffet. Welcome to the magic of language.
You checked out because the shows were boring. Alright, maybe you're enough of an NPC that talking with other NPCs about shows was part of the appeal for you, but even at 50% appeal you should still be watching stuff. Western media has zero appeal these days.
People using words incorrectly doesn't make them right. Anime isn't a loanword, it's literally the Japanese word for animation.
Cartoons stopped being seen as "kids stuff" decades ago, you fricking moron.
>Anime isn't a loanword,
It's literally a loanword. You should look up the concept of false friends, you moronic pseud with zero understanding of linguistics.
The word is used correctly in English, because we already had a word for アニメ, animation. You know, the word アニメ is derived from to begin with.
I'm not a racist incel /misc/tard. I'm a normal human being, so I don't care about that. I checked out of modern media because the show itself was only half of the equation. Discussing it with others and speculating about it was the other half. There are simply better things for me to do with my time than get invested in a show that will be forgotten in a month
And bookgays dropped spoilers everywhere anyway.
>It's one of the reasons I've completely checked out of modern media,
But old media is also all released and there to watch as a chunk with less people to talk about it because it is less current.
Sure, but nothing beats enjoying a series with my bros. You had to be there to understand. The discussion and speculation/theories were more fun than the shows themselves.
Binging is the equivalent of the consumer meme.
You just consume without taking the time to think about what you're consuming.
Lol. I love bigne releases, I can watch it on 3x speed and watch it in one night.
Though I did not watch anything for 3 years now.
thinking about what you consume when consuming Netflix crap. Lol.
>I can watch it on 3x speed
You didn't actually watch anything
All humans like socializing. It's how we evolved as a species. Humans have to socialize to survive.
Socializing with my friends about shows we liked was part of the fun. The binge model completely killed that. Can't discuss or speculate shit with my friends or other people online if it's all released at once
It's one of the reasons I've completely checked out of modern media, it's not as fun as if I can't talk about it with others
I can tell you roughly what all these series I watched were about. It means I watched it since I know what is happening. And didn't waste time on badly made suspense.
It is like daying to someone who learned fast reading that he does not read because you cannot comprehend how he does it.
Reading isn't designed with any specific pace in mind. It's designed to be read at any pace you want.
Visual entertainment is written with a specific pace in mind and comply falls apart when watched at any other pace.
Literally nobody can "comprehend" plot and meaning in real time. You're supposed to take time to think about and digest what you just watched.
You can't watch something and analyze it the same time.
It does not if you care about the narration and not emotions.
Really you think that if you watch Rambo go around killing 100 peapole in 30minutes you get deeper understanding what is happening compared to watchin it on 3x speed in 10 minutes?
Most things in series can be ommited completely and you will not lose any understanging of what is happening.
>Most things in series can be ommited completely and you will not lose any understanging of what is happening.
This isn't true. If something can omitted from a story without significantly changing it, it's usually cut from the story early in development.
It's very rare for unnecessary things to make it into the final product.
>This isn't true. If something can omitted from a story without significantly changing it, it's usually cut from the story early in development.
And this end this discusion because clearly you are completely deluded.
It's a basic principle of storytelling. 90% of the time, characters and events that aren't necessary get cut early in development. You make a rough draft, then cut out all the unnecessary bullshit as you trim it down into the final product.
Bullshit and anyone who watches TV series or movies can tell you straight away that it is bullshit. There are fillers even in series that were meant to be one shot.
Name one example
any show with frick scenes.
GoT series with half of things never finished and half of characters killed of not concluding their stories.
Well, for one, sex scenes are rare. We're in the most sexless era of entertainment ever. Second, they usually don't last long and are only there to bring the tone of the story back to where it needs to be.
But general, sex scenes are non-existent outside of full-on porn these days.
Twin Peaks S3 was the last time I enjoyed a tv series.
>It does not if you care about the narration and not emotions.
A good story IS one that's emotionally compelling. If I have no emotional investment or attachment to it, I'm not going to watch it. Simple as. That's what stories are designed to; get you emotionally invested.
I'd never watch something at 3x speed because that's too fast. You're not taking time to digest and form an opinion on what you're watching, you're just mindlessly consuming.
>f I have no emotional investment or attachment to it, I'm not going to watch it. Simple as.
How do you know you have no emotional attachment to it without watching at least part of it? And if you stop watching thing after a while, you just ommit the story. Meaning you do exactly what I do with watching on 3x speed or ommiting boring parts.
In other words you are just full of shit but trying to sound profound and make watching movies somekind of profound study instead of what it is. An entertainment for plebs.
Suspense is a vital part of any good story, and has been for millennia.
of course, when it is done correctly. Most of these new series do sloppy job with suspense and do bad cliffhangers that are not suspenseful but irritating.
BASED
Imagine that an antisocial homosexual on Cinemaphile who'd have thought.
moron. Discussing a good show on Cinemaphile and with friends as it progresses is often more enjoyable than the show itself. Bingewatchers won't even remember what happened in the show a week later. Oh how i miss /RBMK/..
You aren't entitled to have me dumb down my posts because you're too low IQ to understand them.
People are allowed to have different opinions and like different things than you. Get over it, you narcissistic whiny manchild.
sounds like you don't like media but instead like it as a pretext for socializing
the binge model enhanced the format when done right
there is a reason people bought dvd box sets and didn't watch one episode a week
>sounds like you don't like media but instead like it as a pretext for socializing
I like both, they add to each other. And it's not just the social aspect, but the speculation and anticipation aspect. All of that is gone with the binge release model.
The modern release model has killed my desire to watch anything, because I know it'll be forgotten in a month or two
>The modern release model has killed my desire to watch anything, because I know it'll be forgotten in a month or two
why does that matter? how does the notoriety of an ip affect your enjoyment of it at all?
There's no point in watching someone that neither myself nor anyone else will remember in a month. It's a waste of time, I have more important things to be doing
i remember scenes in movies from my childhood if they were original enough
sounds like you want to discuss mid tier slop with other people watching mid tier slop but they have more important things to do
Originality doesn't matter. Nothing has ever been original.
including your speculations about a tv show
>but how am i gonna make fake online friends without a rolling general where we post le epic reddit memes until they're completely dead like we did with The Terror, Chernobyl, Twin Peaks, etc.
Pathetic. Try enjoying art for the sake of art instead of pageantry, you disgusting fricking queers.
you can still theorise and discuss things with people though? what's stopping you?
Hard to do that when there's nothing to discuss or speculate about because it's all already released.
That's why I have no real desire to watch anything anymore, because no matter how good it might be, it's gonna be dead in a month or two. Back in my day, fandoms lasted for years
>because it's all already released.
dude that is the best time to discuss the material (when you have the full story) not to mention in a series format there will be another season? that is something to discuss and look forward to also.
it also filters a genuine quality show from predatory fomo style mystery box bullshit
a mystery box show with no satisfying explanation/resolution could garner a lot of hypothesis and discussion with the trickle formula in the past but now will rightfully be forgotten if it's all released and people realize it's a big waste of time
The hypothesis and discussion was part of what made the shows good.
If there's nothing to discuss or speculate about, the show is a waste of time and not worth watching
>MMMMM YUMMY MYSTERY BOX! HURRRR DURRR!
Speculation and anticipation =/= mystery box
You can't watch shit anymore because some impatient gay will spoil the whole thing
Finish the season before entering threads about the show. Protip: You can finish a season in less than a day. Why are all your replies so poorly thought out?
This was an anime website up until 2008 when that childish fad died. Your reasoning would be like saying the only people who should be on the internet are university scientists because that's what it was created for. Really fricking dunce attempt on your part. But what did I expect from a gay "adult" who watches cartoons in a desperate attempt to find a friend group?
Cartoons stopped being seen as "kids stuff" decades ago, you fricking moron.
>Finish the season before entering threads about the show.
At that point, nothing can be discussed because I've already seen it. I know what happened so there's nothing to discuss anymore.
>Protip: You can finish a season in less than a day.
Yeah, I could, but it's impossible to digest a whole season that fast. That's not enough time to form an opinion.
no, a show being good is what makes a show good
endless questions without a planned explanation is the sign of a hack
Right? What if Wayward Pines had been in bingeable format? It never would've gotten the small amount of traction it managed.
?
i still pirate everything and im very happy with that model
Twin Peaks S3 was the last time I enjoyed a tv series.
Yeah pretty much. Trust me I like watching shit back to back and not having to wait, but if there was a button to take that all away I'd gladly press it. I also miss the days of 3-4 year waits between movies. The market wasn't as oversaturated and you had to enjoy what was out longer and it made you appreciate it more. Now shit is pumped out on the daily straight to your cellphone (get. fricking. real.)
The binge model only works for shows with huge overarching plots.
It doesn't work at all for shows with an episodic format.
The key to this thread is ignoring the opinions of people who put blank lines between each sentence.
It's called proper spacing, they teach it in school so that your writing isn't an unreadable wall of text.
Proper spacing between sentences is a full stop and 2 spaces. You're thinking of a paragraph and should look into what that entails.
The real truth is that shows are garbage and discussion is what people enjoy.
binge model is superior. forcing your series to end on a cliffhanger every episode just doesn't hold up on a rewatch: it's just plain goofy. also it creates fatigue when people are just spouting the same theories and discussing the same tired plot points from a recent episode and these discussions carry on for months as the season slowly drops (if they don't take a mid season break). Better to just discuss the story as a whole and if it was good, people will keep talking about it for a long time.
The binge model has only proven that even good shows will get forgotten within a month because nobody has time to think about them before moving on the next time. It's the epitome of the consoomer meme.
>Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product
That's what binging is turning all of entertainment into. Nobody thinks about anything anymore, they just mindlessly consume.
>everything's a meme!
You have nothing of value to say.
there are few good shows these days which is part of the problem
those that are worth it get recommended to their friends and everybody watches them and remembers them
every reaction channel gets asked to watch them
they are not forgotten, you just missed out on your epic Cinemaphile general to spam your tired forced memes every day
Oh frick off with this shit. If you wanna watch your tv at the same time each week then set a date in your fricking calendar. You can feel all fuzzy and nostalgic about the good old days of waiting a whole week for another hour of TV, which often contained a shit load of filler episodes anyway.
I can't do that if no one else does.
And complaining about "filler episodes" is the sign of an NPC
>I can't do that if no one else does.
if nobody else is doing it, it means they like the binge model, huh?
Awww how sad for you. I lived through the era of weekly releases and it was shit. Shows releasing entire seasons in one go is the best innovation in television in a long time. Why you morons want to roll back the one positive development that streaming has given us I’ll never know.
yes and losers post spoilers within hours of release
This thread is just a bunch of binge autists whining that not everybody likes their preferred model of consuming entertainment
All of OP's points are valid.
>nuh uh!
Awesome argument. Post breasts.
you and him should create a discord or subreddit with your fellow drip drip autists and arrange weekly schedules to circle jerk whatever slop you're agreed upon watching
that's what this forum is for
but binging ruins it
bingers should simply wait until the last episode airs and then they can binge to their heart's content
>bingers should simply wait until the last episode airs and then they can binge to their heart's content
we do
you complain that there are no discussion threads and it's because nobody is watching it and waiting to confirm it's worth watching first
The weekly schedule is how people watched entertainment for decades and no one had a problem with it before. Don't fix what ain't broke
We already went over this:
this system ain't broke
you're the one that doesn't fit with the way things are now and can create and frick off to your own little community if you don't like it
doubtful the discussion there would be above grade 10 level though
I don't have to "fit". Nobody is entitled to have me conform to their way of doing things. If you can't accept that some people have different preferences than you, you're a narcissist.
You realize that the only people who call other people on the internet narcissists are girls, right? Who cheated on you, sweetie? Was she prettier than you? I bet she was, considering you watch anime.
Everyone on this website watches anime.
Also there's no such thing as "anime". It's just the Japanese word for animation. To Japanese people, Spongebob is an anime.
>look, i'm autistic
And that's why you're incapable of winning this debate. You can't help it. Your dad couldn't beat it out of you if he tried.
Very true.
Unfortunately for some reason a lot of my peers, and even my movie/series-watching friends who are 30+ like me and should know better, somehow embraced the binge release model and say it's awesome.
I cannot fathom it. Don't you folks remember how fun it was to discuss the current state of things and wait for the next episode next week?
>I cannot fathom it. Don't you folks remember how fun it was to discuss the current state of things and wait for the next episode next week?
No because I'm not a friends haver and neither is anyone above 85% IQ.
Humans have to have friends to survive, you fricking idiot. That's how we evolved. Friends are a necessity for an optimal life.
It's not possible to live without friends because people who die usually develop health problems (either physical or mental, usually both) and don't live past 65.
Was season 2 any good?
Not as good as the first
You sound like a fricking woman. I just watch things and enjoy them. I don’t need to fricking talk to someone about it to enjoy it. This is some mega peabrain shit.
Talking to someone about it IS part of enjoying it. You're a zoomer, so you wouldn't understand, but back in the day, people used to talk about their favorite shows together, both in real life and online.
Back in the day, people had to shit in outhouses. That was better for a minority of twisted morons, too.
pull your head into this century, boomer
I don't give a frick about this century. I don't live in this century, so it doesn't matter to me. I stopped living in this world a long time ago.
Yet you can't stop crying about water cooler shows going away...
There's no such thing as a "water cooler show", that's just some bullshit term you pulled out of your ass.
Low quality bait. You must've got here after 2010.
I've been on Cinemaphile since 2003, newbie.
I'm m00ts father and I approve of binge watching shows.
>boomer doesn't understand boomer phrases
bot
It's a zoomie who didn't get to experience shows getting released weekly and wants to make up for it by ruining shit for everyone else
game of throne threads on Cinemaphile were so kino when it was on air
imagine wanting to ruin that to be contrarian impatient chud
the first 50 posts of any general are losers clamoring to be the first post and spamming their garbage walls of text over and over
you're one of them, aren't you
>i love my friend simulator and reddit memes! love it!
hotd threads were promptly overrun by homosexual pedophiles
And bookgays dropped spoilers everywhere anyway.
Yeah, all my real life friendships fell apart because we no longer had any common interests
I blame the internet for this
Honestly even the discussion that does exist today is shallow and low quality. Media discourse went to shit in the mid 2010s.
Before then, people were having intelligent, high-quality discussions. Then everyone lost their fricking minds and became drones that parrot memes and bullshit like "wasted potential" (i.e .comparing something to an imaginary version you made up in your head instead of judging the version that actually exists)
it seems like no matter what you post now, even if it's kino of the highest order, the first 20 posts are people claiming it's hot trash
if the thread hasn't 404'd beyond that, you might have some real discussion about it
I feel like you're specifically calling out RLM
I don't think it was higher quality, I think it was a lot less antagonizing.
itt: homosexual boomers mad they can have their gay water cooler talks about their weekly goyslop with their boring coworkers
Nice job, zoomie.
Well, there's nothing else to talk about now. Now all people talk about is workplace drama. It's why I don't talk to people at all anymore, they have nothing interesting to say.
Maybe you should try doing the thing you're getting paid for, brown eyes.
I already am. Ever heard of a break?
Yeah, it's what lazy people need. Basically non-whites.
You're legally allowed to take breaks, and it's necessary to take them to avoid burnout. Most jobs even make them mandatory. People have been talking to their coworkers during breaks since the dawn of time.
>wahhh! babby needs a nap!
You're soft and your perpetuating a system to enable being soft. Just like the queers who can't handle watching more than one episode at a time and need a full week to process an hour of moving pictures and sound.
The human body cannot work non-stop, you fricking idiot. It needs rest to function at an optimal level. That's why breaks are mandatory.
I can frick for 72 hours straight. You're soft because you believe every lie a soft person has ever told you.
It has been scientifically proven that the human body needs regular breaks and at least 8 hours of sleep every night to maintain optimal function.
You can't argue against scientific facts.
>he doesn't give his body to the company store
>Just like the queers who can't handle watching more than one episode at a time and need a full week to process an hour of moving pictures and sound.
It's not about processing it, it's about digesting and forming an opinion. The binge model makes it impossible to form an option on each individual episode because it blurs together. It kills the intended pace
Semantics aren't arguments, Sally. You've done nothing but repeat yourself the entire thread after being proven wrong repeatedly.
You're the one that's done nothing but repeat yourself. You have no actual arguments, you just resort to ad hominems and childish insults. I can tell you're underage, because adults don't argue like this. Adults are polite and show respect to the person they're talking to, even if they disagree with them.
You need to grow out of this immature behavior of yours, because you wouldn't last a day in the real world with this attitude.
>no u!
Good one. Re-read the thread. You won't because everything has to be a friendly social experience for you instead of an intellectual one. You're scared of real ideas and arguments, so you run away and hide in childish cartoons and friendly little generals full of gay losers and reddit memes. You need to return to reddit if you want a hugbox.
I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum over someone having a different opinion. That's you.
>when you disagree with me, it's emotional
No, sweetheart. That's just you being a girl and getting upset when someone is telling you how wrong you are. No one owes you a smile or a friendly word, holes.
An opinion by definition can't be wrong.
In the real world, adults don't act like this. Adults are polite and respectful. They don't toss out insults when people disagree with them, that's what children do.
>anime fans lecturing about the real world
>anime fans lecturing about being adults
Tell us more about your wife and kids and job and insurance premiums and mortgage. KWAB
You're an anime fan. You're posting on an anime website. Everyone on Cinemaphile is an anime fan.
Bro these zoomers become fixated on among us for like three years they're not going to have the mental acumen to think about an episode of a show for more than a day. You're wasting your time.
That's right goys Mr. israelitesteins model employee says get back to work.
ITT: homosexual zoomers upset at the prospect that people enjoy socializing about a near universal pastime. The absolute state of this board.
It's the boomers who lived through having to wait who don't want to backslide into outdated modes of viewership, tranime watcher. The fact that you can't figure out how to discuss an entire season of a show without focusing on anticipation just shows what a mystery box loving homosexual you are.
>The fact that you can't figure out how to discuss an entire season of a show
There is no way to discuss an entire season all at once. It isn't humanly possible and results in watered-down, low quality discussion.
>I need to autistically discuss the meaning of every word in a sentence to understand the meaning of the sentence
If your parents weren't lazy (and didn't raise you to be) you wouldn't need to blame israelites for your place in the poverty cycle. Food for thought.
If you work in the modern era, you are an idiot. No job pays enough to live off of so it's a waste of time and energy. It's more rewarding to be a NEET.
It's impossible to afford anything nowadays because the price of everything has skyrocketed. Things take way more hours of work to afford now than they did 50 years ago
>No job pays enough to live off of
Have you tried not living in an urban hellscape?
I don't have a choice because that's where all the jobs are. Living anywhere else isn't an option because then I'd have to drive 10+ miles every time I go to work or need to go to a grocery store. Whatever I "save" would be cancelled out by the cost of gas.
>It's more rewarding to be a NEET.
And the free money is coming from where exactly?
ITT: boomer execs upset their low effort cliffhanger bait doesn't fly in the binge streaming age
Cliffhangers have been a staple of storytelling since man invented storytelling. There is nothing inherently wrong with a cliffhanger, the whole point of them is to build suspense.
if a writer can't create suspense without cliffhangers, they suck at the craft
Cliffhangers are only bad if the story ends on one.
it's a psychological trick meant to draw people back to a piece of media that is otherwise forgettable
you are the kind of moron they hope to bait with it
The term "cliffhanger" was coined in the 1870s, cliffhangers have been a staple of storytelling since before your grandparents were born
so? you know people have been manipulating each other and using any method to gain advantage since the dawn of time, right?
Stories are by their very nature manipulative. Every story ever written is designed to make you feel a certain way.
If it succeeds at making you feel what it wants you to feel, it's a good story. If it fails, it's a bad story. Simple as.
if a story relies on cheap tricks to keep the audience engaged rather than a compelling story and interesting characters, they are a hack
the binge model sorts the former from the latter
You don't get to decide what a "cheap trick" is.
>a compelling story and interesting characters
This doesn't mean anything because there are two kinds of stories; plot-driven, and character-driven.
In plot-driven stories, the plot is the focus and the characters don't need to be fleshed out because they're just tools to move the plot along. While in a character-driven story, the plot is just an excuse to have the characters do shit and develop, it doesn't need to be anything spectacular as long as the characters are entertaining.
When writing a story, you need to choose either plot or characters to focus on, trying to do both results in an unfocused mess.
>learning disability formatting
Your thoughts are super valuable.
if it's not a cheap trick, it would still hold value when the release format changes
This is a disingenuous argument because some shows are designed to be binged and some are not. Modern shows are written with the binge format in mind, but everying written pre-Netflix was written with a week to week release in mind.
The former don't work when you watch them week to week, and the latter don't work when you binge them, because they weren't designed to be watched that way.
no, it sorts writing that holds up regardless of the format and psychological tricks designed to make you more likely to come back next week
All writing is a psychological trick. Get a better argument.
Hell, all forms of marketing are psychological tricks. There's nothing wrong with wanting people to come back next week. As long as you're successful at it, it doesn't matter. It's only a bad thing when it fails.
you're spinning in circles again you mongoloid
>non-fiction is a psychological trick
>dude it's non-fiction trust us we're the experts
>dude, how do i know the israelites aren't lying to me again? last time they told me the earth was round and i should shoot a bunch of toxic chemicals into the air!
>non-fiction is a psychological trick
Well when you put it that way...
>i'll post a cartoon
>that'll show'em
troony thought process.
>learning disability formatting
Not reading. If you want it read, write it like an adult who graduated.
You aren't entitled to have me dumb down my posts because you're too low IQ to understand them.
>no u!
Back to arguing like a moronic set of holes, eh?
If you're going to act like a child, that's what I'll treat you as. When you're ready to start behaving like a proper adult, let me know and we'll have a genuine, honest discussion. I don't know what planet you grew up on, but on Earth, adults don't talk or argue like this. That's how children argue. Adults don't call each other names or resort to ad hominems.
That's literally how people consumed entertaiment for decades, and it worked fine.
The binge model is complete shit that results in everything being forgotten within a month no matter how good it is because no one has time to think about it before they move on to the next time.
Yes. All stories are written with the intention of making you feel a certain way.
A good story makes the viewer/reader feel what it wants them to feel when it wants them to feel it. A bad story fails at this.
The aim of any fictional story is to create a world that ceases to be fictional in the mind of the audience.
"Non-fiction" can be and often is more manipulative and dishonest than fiction.
That's funny. I can binge watch ST: TNG and get just as much enjoyment from it as when it originally aired. I guess you're just a moron who's full of shit and pulling it out of their ass.
>the collection of holes starts talking about feelings again...
Making you feel things is literally what all stories are designed to do.
>all stories are fiction
>all stories are based on emotional investment rather than intellectual curiosity
This is your brain on tranime.
You watch anime, you're posting on an anime website. Literally everyone watches anime nowadays. It's no longer some niche thing, it's the most watched form of entertainment in existence. Get with the times, gramps. Anime hasn't been "uncool" or "for nerds" in decades.
>not even the 4th most popular board on a site supposedly about the subject
HOW CAN THIS BE!?
>This is your brain on tranime.
Sounds like the bible to me
If you have no emotional investment in a story, then it's a bad story.
Why the frick would anyone watch something they're not invested in? You watch things to be entertained, not for "muh intellectualism", that's what books are for.
>my emotions are all that matter!
Exactly what a thoughtless collection of holes would say.
Humans are by nature emotional. All humans are. We have no choice because that's how we're biologically designed.
You're really not very good at this. The more you get pressed the more your repetition becomes simplified. At this point you realize that all you ever cared about was socializing like a homosexualy little b***h in your homosexualy little b***h generals.
People are allowed to have different opinions and like different things than you. Get over it, you narcissistic whiny manchild.
>narcissistic
Did he leave you because you're fat or was it because you suck at blowjobs? Answer the question.
>You can only watch things for the reasons I say because I'm not smart enough to understand anything else!
>appeal to tradition
You just love this fallacy, huh, Sally?
See? I can just sit here and repeat the same fricking thing over and over again like a broken set of holes, too.
If cliffhangers were a bad thing, they wouldn't have lasted this long. That's the way writing works. Things that work continue to be done, things that don't work stop being done.
There's a reason why mystery novels with shitty twists like "the butler did it" are a thing of the past
>anime fans telling other people how writing works
KWAB
You know all those old tropes that you don't see in media anymore? They died out for a reason; they didn't work.
Things that don't work stop being used pretty quickly, that's how media has always worked
>the jobless cartoon watching troony/femcel continues trying to tell real adults how things work
>appeal to tradition
You just love this fallacy, huh, Sally?
Cliffhangers are a staple of storytelling. They exist for a reason. Things become staples because they work.
>appeal to tradition
You just love this fallacy, huh, Sally?
See? I can just sit here and repeat the same fricking thing over and over again like a broken set of holes, too.
i blame zoomers and millennials
Come home white man
Just compare jojo's part 6 and the rest, they dumped everything at once and people forgotten within two weeks,look for the other part and people talked about it for month
But no, talking about the cultural thing you like is le bad
Exactly my point, nothing has any longevity anymore because of the binge model. It's a waste of time to watch anything nowadays, because you'll forget about it in a month regardless of how good it was, because you've moved on to the next month.
Yeah, everyone can read that you already said that in the thread, autist.
periodic releases synchronize discussion leading to deeper and more fun discussion on web forums like Cinemaphile
apparently only low quality posters like binge format as evidenced by their low quality posts ITT. like half the thread is "ur a woman, ur gay, u have emotion? ur woman. u r*ddit spacing. I hate spaces."
Exactly you can't discuss anything anymore because everyone is at different points in the story.
All the binge model really does (which is what the israelites want it do) is to dumb down audiences so that they don't question anything and just accept whatever slop they shit out.
All humans like socializing. It's how we evolved as a species. Humans have to socialize to survive.
Socializing with my friends about shows we liked was part of the fun. The binge model completely killed that. Can't discuss or speculate shit with my friends or other people online if it's all released at once
It's one of the reasons I've completely checked out of modern media, it's not as fun as if I can't talk about it with others
>reddit spacer is talking to himself now
at last a solution for his problem
split up into multiple personalities and circlejerk with yourself weekly
>The entire concept of streaming was meant to eliminate that bullshit.
Discussing it with your friends was part of the appeal of watching shows. If you just mindless consoom shit without digesting it, you're an NPC.
who are you kidding? you have no friends
if you did, you could try convincing them to watch shows weekly with you instead of complaining on Cinemaphile
Hard to do that when there's nothing to discuss or speculate about because it's all already released.
That's why I have no real desire to watch anything anymore, because no matter how good it might be, it's gonna be dead in a month or two. Back in my day, fandoms lasted for years
>That's why I have no real desire to watch anything anymore
good
you have no reason to return here then
You know all those old tropes that you don't see in media anymore? They died out for a reason; they didn't work.
Things that don't work stop being used pretty quickly, that's how media has always worked
Try again, that's someone else copy/pasting.
>Storytelling techniques that worked fine for thousands of years are suddenly bad because I say so
This is a disingenuous argument because some shows are designed to be binged and some are not. Modern shows are written with the binge format in mind, but everying written pre-Netflix was written with a week to week release in mind.
The former don't work when you watch them week to week, and the latter don't work when you binge them, because they weren't designed to be watched that way.
Well, it's safe to say he's run out of arguments (or not, because that would imply he had any in the first place) since he's resorted to just copy/pasting my posts.
You're the one that's done nothing but repeat yourself. You have no actual arguments, you just resort to ad hominems and childish insults. I can tell you're underage, because adults don't argue like this. Adults are polite and show respect to the person they're talking to, even if they disagree with them.
You need to grow out of this immature behavior of yours, because you wouldn't last a day in the real world with this attitude.
That shut the dumb b***h up, huh?
No, you just didn't say anything of substance, so nobody replied. Copy/pasting is neither an argument nor a substitute for one.
An opinion by definition can't be wrong.
In the real world, adults don't act like this. Adults are polite and respectful. They don't toss out insults when people disagree with them, that's what children do.
binge releases synchronize discussion leading to deeper and more fun discussion on web forums like Cinemaphile
apparently only low quality posters like periodic format as evidenced by their low quality posts ITT. like half the thread is "ur a woman, ur gay, u have emotion? ur woman. u r*ddit spacing. I hate spaces."
If someone's only response to your argument is childish insults and/or copy/pasting your posts, then your argument is correct.
Good job, OP.
Refusing to binge is the equivalent of the consumer meme.
You just consume without taking the time to think about what you're consuming.
Humans are by nature emotional. All humans are. We have no choice because that's how we're biologically designed.
I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum over someone having a different opinion. That's you.
no and no
reading a chapter of a book once a week is not fun - you have to be able to experience it at your own pace
so - NO and NO
weekly episodes must DIE
False equivalence, books are not a visual medium. They're written to be enjoyed at your own pace.
That doesn't apply to visual media. They're written with a certain pace in mind and completely fall apart when viewed at any other pace.
The hypothesis and discussion was part of what made the shows good.
If there's nothing to discuss or speculate about, the show is a waste of time and not worth watching
>The hypothesis and discussion was part of what made the shows good.
not always true - breaking bad writers had no idea where they were going, so you ended up with 8 hours of kleptomaniac b***h with no connection to the main story
enjoyed those 8 hours of kleptomania story and the discussions of it?
I don't have to "fit". Nobody is entitled to have me conform to their way of doing things. If you can't accept that some people have different preferences than you, you're a narcissist.
Television was better than the homosexual ass internet. Frick looking for shit to watch online is exhausting. Nothing beats sitting back on a sofa or couch and just channel surfing until you found something good to watch...frick television back in the day was literally life..I mean a whole ton of great memories in my life came from watching a TV show or movie...u just can't replicate that anymore...it almost gets me teary eyed.
I have great memories for cytube. Purple putting on movies with a chat room. First saw Nathan for you on there and almost laughed to tears. Also discovered ran, the right stuff and innerspace on there which were better recommendations than I ever for from here.
It's not the same, I'm telling u there would be bad days in the house, only for a good movie to come on, we'd all watch it.. everything would suddenly be ok...frick..I'm tearing up now.
Can't wait for the Tommy Talaric-- I mean Internet Historian video on this. I wonder what article he'll plagiarize for it and refuse to address. Maybe one with the edgy humor he likes to "subtly" sneak into everything? At least his mom is proud of him
There’s nothing stopping you from talking to people about stuff that was binge watched.
>yeah but I want to talk about the same show for six months!
Then watch one episode a week and talk about it that way. That wasn’t hard.
it is hard to do that over the internet with lots of people and people would still spoil things on purpose
bingers can simply wait until the season is done to watch at their own pace
Where am I going to find other people who watch one episode a week?
Start a homosexualy book club with you middle aged female friends. I'm not waiting months for the conclusion of an interesting story just because some anachronistic subsection of the population wants to go back to water cooler shows. The entire concept of streaming was meant to eliminate that bullshit. Are you a fricking Prime ad executive? You gauging how long after the pandemic you're gonna get away with trickle feeding already completed episodes to the public to prolong their subs to your service? Or are you just a fool?
I'm neither middle aged nor female, you moronic zoomer
You kow books can get no conclusions either? Especially GoT. Talk about suspense.
If cliffhangers were a bad thing, they wouldn't have lasted this long. That's the way writing works. Things that work continue to be done, things that don't work stop being done.
There's a reason why mystery novels with shitty twists like "the butler did it" are a thing of the past
I've actually read Agata Christie and Doyle. And it beats most of nowadays productions, be it books or series. That's the problem. These things are classics because they are good even now. Most of things produced right now will be forgotten day later. Even if it isn't binge watched.
>guy who hates anyone having fun discussing new episodes thought Cinemaphile used to be good
lol typical
also fyi a lot of these posts are copypasted from earlier in the thread
I know this is difficult for a Zoomer like you to understand, but people used to actually discuss and speculate about things.
What’s come out on Nigflix that’s worth discussing? I watched the pilot of Stranger Things and it sucked. Don’t tell me you wanted to talk about Nigflix Bebop or something just as moronic.
i agree but it also attracts the worst critics. neet incels who binge watch and give their mid opinions in an attempt to control the narrative is just bad for business in general
now greentext, call me a troon and post a frog its all youre good for
>everyone watches them in one sitting so it all blurs together instead of letting each episode stand on its own
They should just shorten these shows to the 90m of decent content that's in them and release them as movies.
Yeah, that doesn't work because the "good content" doesn't work without the slower-paced content. Pacing is important. A story moving too fast is just as big as a problem as it dragging itself out. Balance is key. If the story moves too fast, the audience gets burnt out and has no time to process one plot points before the story move on to the next one.
I just hate the "le 8 episode season 1 and then take a break for 3 years before season 2"
back in my day, seasons were 24 episodes each and a new one came out every fricking year
Copy/pasting other people's posts isn't an argument, and it doesn't make you funny or cool.
Exactly what a thoughtless collection of holes would say.
I don't have a choice because that's where all the jobs are.
If you have no emotional investment in a story, then it's a bad story.
Why the frick would anyone watch something they're not invested in? You watch things to be entertained, not for "muh intellectualism", that's what books are for.
it's not an argument, but it absolutely makes you funny and cool
Yeah, I miss the old days of media discussion. It's just not the same anymore.
You didn't actually watch anything
it depends on the show. there are a bunch of shows with a really slow pacing that would have been a lot better if i could just binge-show instead of waiting for a new episode every week.
I really don't fricking care that some of you want to wait every week and discuss every little shitty detail in a single episode. Nothing is stopping you from pacing yourself anyway. But no, everyone has to enjoy things the exact same way you enjoy things and there can be no other choice in the matter.
Well, if you want to keep people hungry, don't feed them to the bloat.