>setting is entirely based on a fantasy Europe resembling the 100 years war >names of characters are or sound European >asian
Not everything that comes out of Japan has to be portrayed by Japanese people. You could be a Nigerian as black as coal and write a novel about Swedish people where evryone is white.
Miura apparently denied that calling it a striking coincidence.
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yeah the same way sapkowski claims geralt of rivia ISNT a literal carbon copy of elric despite the fact sapkowski worked at a polish translation company at the time he wrote it and just happened to be translating elric.
Miura apparently denied that calling it a striking coincidence.
Guts is his own character so I doubt Miura really copied the real life Gotz per se but I have to agree with the other anon in that I have no doubt that a mercenary with an iron hand who lived in the same period Berserk is based on and had an extremely similar name as Guts is pure coincidence
>he doesn't look asian in the manga >no mongolian equivalent culture is shown >his mother was killed during some internal religious conflict
not sure why this is so important to you
any character like that in japanese media is at least partially japanese so that none of them get mad, even death note has L being 1/4 japanese for that reason
There was this meme years ago I wish I had saved that was slightly reddit but still hilarious. It had two obviously European Nordic looking supermodels male and female with the text >I'm XY male Japanese name whose 1/16th English and I'm on an adventure with my XY female Japanese name gf whose 1/16th American
Guts is clearly depicted as European looking in the manga, look at any of the higher quality realistic images
it's only the recent animes that have made him asian for some reason
Does that reference the humor of black people that is mainly about other black people? If so that's appropriate, I've notice black comedian make jokes about white or black all the time.
Starting to get tired of black humor.
Do you know how we can tell guts is asian? His hair, whenever japanese mangaka want to make a mal character asian they make his hair spikey, whereis european have flat hair. this is why griffith is obviously european.
Not a general rule there are some exception but it's a tendency I noticed.
"I wasn't really thinking of anybody at the time I created Guts. But if you're only talking about his looks and not about his personality then I guess Rutger Hauer was the model. I saw him playing a mercenary in a medieval movie, "Flesh & Blood" and I really liked him in that movie. He also played the lead in "Salute of the Jugger." It was an Sci Fi movie, but I thought the character he played was similar to Guts. And the main character from "Highlander" kind of reminds me of Guts. "
That's also why FF characters are actually asian, one exception is kingslave and you can immediatly tell the difference.
Can't believe the writers gaslighted so many frickers into believing they made european, when their characters were clearly designed to be asian, or at the very least make it so confusing asian could self-insert.
[...]
You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes. Same for FF.
>You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes
Olympic grade cope lmao
Maybe he meant the characters in those movies, but you have to be an absolute moron to think that this
>Rutger Hauer
Just checked and is this a joke? Guts does not look anything like him, he does not have blue eyes or blond hair. Like I said the aim is to gaslight morons.
>Rutger Hauer
Just checked and is this a joke? Guts does not look anything like him, he does not have blue eyes or blond hair. Like I said the aim is to gaslight morons.
Even in black and white you can tell blue eyes and blonde hair, this has nothing to do with it. Like Griffith has blonde hair and you can tell, like I said he is the european one.
That's also why FF characters are actually asian, one exception is kingslave and you can immediatly tell the difference.
Can't believe the writers gaslighted so many frickers into believing they made european, when their characters were clearly designed to be asian, or at the very least make it so confusing asian could self-insert.
"I wasn't really thinking of anybody at the time I created Guts. But if you're only talking about his looks and not about his personality then I guess Rutger Hauer was the model. I saw him playing a mercenary in a medieval movie, "Flesh & Blood" and I really liked him in that movie. He also played the lead in "Salute of the Jugger." It was an Sci Fi movie, but I thought the character he played was similar to Guts. And the main character from "Highlander" kind of reminds me of Guts. "
woah, so asian
You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes. Same for FF.
"Having decided to create "about five characters" for the Golden Age Arc, Pippin is modeled after Kentarou Miura himself in terms of physical appearance. "
This is the ONLY confirmed asiatic in the series.
Please, take a look at how he draws him.
Race in anime is based on consensus and norms, you might think people look like they do in real life, but they do not, not in the slightest.
It truly capture how eurocentric a lot of frickers are in here that they cannot fathom how much they are biased.
Among those norms and consensus there are cliche, like french people are good at cuisine, that's how you can tell sanji is white and french, european have straighter hair than asian, that's why asian characters tend to have spiky hairs, european are tall and athletic, african are even more so, asian tend to have smaller head, rounder and flat faces and so on.
Like when I see do you really think a race of people would draw itself like that in any form?
You're mentally ill, because to you every character HAS to have a race as some integral part of their identity - because you're so obsessed with it so obviously everyone else must be too
And that nobody would ever "insult" their own race by drawing an "ugly" person belonging to their tribe >do you really think a race of people would draw itself like that in any form?
Unironically yes, not everyone is constantly seething about race stuff 24/7 and can exaggerate racialized features for an "ugly" character without freaking out about it
I'm not even saying Pippin is necessarily meant to be Asian, but Asians are absolutely capable of depicting characters with "chinky" features the same as they might depict an ugly white person with having a huge pointy nose and other exaggerated euro features, you're delusional if you think they don't
Stop obsessing over race, it's poisoning your mind
Yeah but their apparrance are clearly made so Jap can self-insert. See
That's also why FF characters are actually asian, one exception is kingslave and you can immediatly tell the difference.
Can't believe the writers gaslighted so many frickers into believing they made european, when their characters were clearly designed to be asian, or at the very least make it so confusing asian could self-insert.
[...]
You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes. Same for FF.
and
[...]
It's to throw off people, something I'll add is that mangaka often do this operation of putting an "european" with heavy asian features in european settings. And then saying he is actually european for coherence sake, the aim is clearly to let the japanese audience self insert into said "european". Final Fantasy is a prime example of this.
If you saw someone with dark feature in the middle age in europe, and then producers told you he had a disease or was born with it, you could tell they were shitting you?
What makes me crazy is that most people don't see it, or do not want to.
It's to throw off people, something I'll add is that mangaka often do this operation of putting an "european" with heavy asian features in european settings. And then saying he is actually european for coherence sake, the aim is clearly to let the japanese audience self insert into said "european". Final Fantasy is a prime example of this.
If you saw someone with dark feature in the middle age in europe, and then producers told you he had a disease or was born with it, you could tell they were shitting you?
What makes me crazy is that most people don't see it, or do not want to.
Because you have stereotpical view of asian that look like
when mangaka want to draw an asian of course they are not going to draw him like some blind. They'll give him some feature, spiky hair and a round/flat face, this one is more subjective as more mainly characters like guts will have a more squarred jaw. Another example of this is demon slayer where you can tell all the characters, even the blonde guy, are asian simply because fo the form of their head and the hairs.
>you can tell all the characters, even the blonde guy, are asian simply because fo the form of their head and the hairs.
this is moronic, they're asian because we're explicitly told that they're japanese, it has nothing to do with how they were drawn
I bet OP made this entire thread to trigger that one hapa autist that's completely obsessed with Guts and worships him as some kind of paragon of the Asian race
If so, well done
>wah wah wah this anime character looks like me
ugly people itt coping, thats what most cartoon art styles are though. also realistically griffith would probably be balding
Miura wasn't aware of it himself, but he depicted Götz von Berlichingen - a german medieval knight with a prosthetic hand who was pretty badass and coined some iconic phrases like "Lick me in the arse". You can wiki him.
So yes, Guts (Götz) is European.
[...]
Guts is his own character so I doubt Miura really copied the real life Gotz per se but I have to agree with the other anon in that I have no doubt that a mercenary with an iron hand who lived in the same period Berserk is based on and had an extremely similar name as Guts is pure coincidence
Miura and many mangaka research medieval European history for reference so he probably came across Götz and the idea stuck with him. Later the concept resurfaces organically yet unintentionally, and it fleshes out into this seemingly perfect idea because you forgot it already was one. Super common in writing-- many have to thoroughly research similar premises and concepts to prevent accidental rip-offs. Happens in music a lot too, like with Bathory.
Japanese artists colour characters dark to insinuate that they're dirty or tanned, because their culture doesn't just naturally assume everyone is white or African.
I've thought extensively about this and if berserk was real it would have to take place in Yugoslavia. Guts is serbian, judeau is bosnian, griffith is slovenian, skull knight is croatian, casca is a gypsy.
More like asian descent.
inb4 seething westoid
>setting is entirely based on a fantasy Europe resembling the 100 years war
>names of characters are or sound European
>asian
Not everything that comes out of Japan has to be portrayed by Japanese people. You could be a Nigerian as black as coal and write a novel about Swedish people where evryone is white.
Aksually, in this case, he might have been Asian just like Cascar is an indian or southern european.
There's no telling because there were asian invasion of Europe, he could be a mongol or Hun love child in the heart of Europe.
Gutts sounds Germanic as frick, but each to their own headcannon I guess.
Guts is not his actual name, he was named by Gambino.
He was named by Miura. Fiction isn't real
>i am very smart
He’s named after a real life German named Götz von Berlichingen who had an iron hand
Miura apparently denied that calling it a striking coincidence.
yeah the same way sapkowski claims geralt of rivia ISNT a literal carbon copy of elric despite the fact sapkowski worked at a polish translation company at the time he wrote it and just happened to be translating elric.
Guts is his own character so I doubt Miura really copied the real life Gotz per se but I have to agree with the other anon in that I have no doubt that a mercenary with an iron hand who lived in the same period Berserk is based on and had an extremely similar name as Guts is pure coincidence
He's named "Guts" because he was born from his mother's corpse in a pile of actual guts. Genealogy has nothing to do with it.
Gutts mother was raped by a Mongolian during the war.
That's why he looks like that.
>he doesn't look asian in the manga
>no mongolian equivalent culture is shown
>his mother was killed during some internal religious conflict
not sure why this is so important to you
Cope, the age of whitoid is over.
The age of asian is here.
Guts always seemed like a Med to me
He has wolf eyes, strong eyebrows and strong nose, which are asian traits.
lmao. jomon maybe. not ainu bug people.
Jomon = ainu = emishi.
You probably mean yayoi.
list all the types of japs. i want to compare
Japanese faces are very varied, much more than korean or chinese despite them being an island.
Some look like Bruce Lee, some look like a racist carricature and some look southern european.
He got blacked, can't get anymore European/mutt than that
He resisted and wasn't a homosexual like Griffith.
His dynamic is ripped straight from Akira Fudou vs Satan in Devilman.
If the mutts adapt Berserk, Donovan is going to be the first whitewashed character that libshits won't complain about.
what will the rapehorse be
>weeb trannies genuinely read comics about little boys being blacked
holy shit lmfao
Asians need lots of plastic surgery to look normal
Pic related
Looks natty of the Jomon type
no
He's a mutt
black swordsman because of the black armour you twat
how's that autism treating you anon?
colors in reference to humans are about their skin color
Ackshually it's the BLACKED swordsman
I think he's a Spaniard personally
He looks very southern european.
Spain is Southern Europe
Anyway, we might agree to disagree, but let's just say that we shouldn't let Black folk own the black color.
Black is a cool color.
You must have been reading the wrong translation. He's the Blacked Swordsman.
BASED
on evil dead 1/2 and army of darkness yes
proof?
I don't actually think it's a bad thing to be influenced by the things you love, but it's pretty interesting to see all the similarities.
some of these are a little forced but otherwise pretty cool
nice. who makes those
Funny thing. Berserk is actually older than Army of Darkness, so metal hand and everything related to it was in Berserk first.
Das right.
Guts goddamn looks japanese/asian while being 3D up.
>Guts goddamn looks japanese/asian while being 3D up.
Cope b***h.
I won't let westoid misuse our heroes.
Is this the meme of the thread? We all get really pissy and pretend Guts looks asian?
It's just some crazy weeb. Theres one in every thread
>Guts is my racial hero!
mental illness, fix yourself
hahaha holy shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_von_Berlichingen
>our
99% chance you're Chinese or SEA diaspora living in the West and Japs would think you were subhuman
is it just me or is upper left the most frickable?
This is a japanese girl according to anime makers
any character like that in japanese media is at least partially japanese so that none of them get mad, even death note has L being 1/4 japanese for that reason
There was this meme years ago I wish I had saved that was slightly reddit but still hilarious. It had two obviously European Nordic looking supermodels male and female with the text
>I'm XY male Japanese name whose 1/16th English and I'm on an adventure with my XY female Japanese name gf whose 1/16th American
>The /misc/chud moron
>Clearly an unemployed nolife incel
Guts looks like a Bulgarian.
the current spanish president, he is also tall as frick
Lacks the wolf eyes/asian traits that Guts clearly has.
Also, his face is too angular, Guts is flat face.
cope, he even has the white hair stripe
Clear differences (eyes, jaws, facial structure), but OK.
seething mongoloid, Guts resembles that spanish dude more than any asian in existence
Spaniards do look asians, but they lack the strong wolf/slanted eyes of asians, they have the downward "smile" eyes instead.
>Guts is flat face.
Not true. See
guess I know where the mexicans got their posting habits from.
Guts is clearly depicted as European looking in the manga, look at any of the higher quality realistic images
it's only the recent animes that have made him asian for some reason
Not every instance of the word black refers to Black folk
what about BLACK Irish
That's an example of a term that doesn't. Black humor is another.
Does that reference the humor of black people that is mainly about other black people? If so that's appropriate, I've notice black comedian make jokes about white or black all the time.
Starting to get tired of black humor.
are you making a joke or are you this uninformed
that was obviously a joke
Two autistic morons walk into a thread and get really serious in an unfunny conversation.
........
........
THEY OWN IT!
>Does that reference the humor of black people that is mainly about other black people?
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_comedy
there's only one black swordsman
That's because he was born from a corpse
Not everything is about race you biggot
guts is mayan
Do you know how we can tell guts is asian? His hair, whenever japanese mangaka want to make a mal character asian they make his hair spikey, whereis european have flat hair. this is why griffith is obviously european.
Not a general rule there are some exception but it's a tendency I noticed.
"I wasn't really thinking of anybody at the time I created Guts. But if you're only talking about his looks and not about his personality then I guess Rutger Hauer was the model. I saw him playing a mercenary in a medieval movie, "Flesh & Blood" and I really liked him in that movie. He also played the lead in "Salute of the Jugger." It was an Sci Fi movie, but I thought the character he played was similar to Guts. And the main character from "Highlander" kind of reminds me of Guts. "
woah, so asian
/Thread
>You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes
Olympic grade cope lmao
Maybe he meant the characters in those movies, but you have to be an absolute moron to think that this
looks anything like Guts.
Let the thread die dumbass. Why engage with someone insane who isn't even funny about it?
>Rutger Hauer
Just checked and is this a joke? Guts does not look anything like him, he does not have blue eyes or blond hair. Like I said the aim is to gaslight morons.
Perhaps Miura really doesn't see color.
Is that why he drew in black in white?
He doesn't see anything now.
Even in black and white you can tell blue eyes and blonde hair, this has nothing to do with it. Like Griffith has blonde hair and you can tell, like I said he is the european one.
>he didn't know who was Rutger Hauer
pleb
That's also why FF characters are actually asian, one exception is kingslave and you can immediatly tell the difference.
Can't believe the writers gaslighted so many frickers into believing they made european, when their characters were clearly designed to be asian, or at the very least make it so confusing asian could self-insert.
You see I don't give a shit about what he says, I believe my eyes. Same for FF.
asian
It's a common European in a Euro-inspired world.
Guts is clearly Turkic/Balkan looking
Berserk is honestly the most overrated shit on the planet. It goes downhill immediately after Conviction.
This is meta, you say Berserk is overrated but post a picture from the literal most overrated anime ever made.
"Having decided to create "about five characters" for the Golden Age Arc, Pippin is modeled after Kentarou Miura himself in terms of physical appearance. "
This is the ONLY confirmed asiatic in the series.
Please, take a look at how he draws him.
-Fine, straight hair.
-Slant eyes.
You are now obliged to stop posting.
Race in anime is based on consensus and norms, you might think people look like they do in real life, but they do not, not in the slightest.
It truly capture how eurocentric a lot of frickers are in here that they cannot fathom how much they are biased.
Among those norms and consensus there are cliche, like french people are good at cuisine, that's how you can tell sanji is white and french, european have straighter hair than asian, that's why asian characters tend to have spiky hairs, european are tall and athletic, african are even more so, asian tend to have smaller head, rounder and flat faces and so on.
Like when I see do you really think a race of people would draw itself like that in any form?
You're mentally ill, because to you every character HAS to have a race as some integral part of their identity - because you're so obsessed with it so obviously everyone else must be too
And that nobody would ever "insult" their own race by drawing an "ugly" person belonging to their tribe
>do you really think a race of people would draw itself like that in any form?
Unironically yes, not everyone is constantly seething about race stuff 24/7 and can exaggerate racialized features for an "ugly" character without freaking out about it
I'm not even saying Pippin is necessarily meant to be Asian, but Asians are absolutely capable of depicting characters with "chinky" features the same as they might depict an ugly white person with having a huge pointy nose and other exaggerated euro features, you're delusional if you think they don't
Stop obsessing over race, it's poisoning your mind
Well, maybe because asians are just ugly subhuman filth with pussy-like eyes and skins covered in piss, so they have to draw themselves as Caucasian.
In Berserk's case, the characters, their names, setting, and plot are clearly European and Indian inspired.
Yeah but their apparrance are clearly made so Jap can self-insert. See
and
The apparrence of Guts at least.
/thread
It's to throw off people, something I'll add is that mangaka often do this operation of putting an "european" with heavy asian features in european settings. And then saying he is actually european for coherence sake, the aim is clearly to let the japanese audience self insert into said "european". Final Fantasy is a prime example of this.
If you saw someone with dark feature in the middle age in europe, and then producers told you he had a disease or was born with it, you could tell they were shitting you?
What makes me crazy is that most people don't see it, or do not want to.
Guts doesn’t look East Asian at all.
Because you have stereotpical view of asian that look like
when mangaka want to draw an asian of course they are not going to draw him like some blind. They'll give him some feature, spiky hair and a round/flat face, this one is more subjective as more mainly characters like guts will have a more squarred jaw. Another example of this is demon slayer where you can tell all the characters, even the blonde guy, are asian simply because fo the form of their head and the hairs.
The mangaka already said it’s not inspired by Japs but by a Dutch actor
truly, the chinaman's most prominent facial feature is his large, round eyes
>you can tell all the characters, even the blonde guy, are asian simply because fo the form of their head and the hairs.
this is moronic, they're asian because we're explicitly told that they're japanese, it has nothing to do with how they were drawn
It has, because sometimes characters are said to be jaapnese and clearly aren't.
yes the famous european feature, eyes as round as a circle.
He looks hapa
>something I'll add is that mangaka often do this operation of putting an "european" with heavy asian features in european settings.
>completely self-destructs his point and kneels like a dog
>pretends he didnt in the next sentence
homosexual.
I need Moner to play casca in a live action with a 10 hour eclipse scene if you understand my meaning
Sasha Calle was made for that.
john boyega as guts
timothee chalamet as griffith
zendaya as casca
idris elba as skull knight
hispanic
More like BLACKED swordsman
why did you delete this
Threadly reminder that Casca is canonically a dark skinned Spaniard Latina.
perfect casting
picrel
FRICKKKKKK
forgot to attach it again lol
picrel
>4'11"
ONONONONO
Sharp and strong facial features + darker skin/eyes= German+Southern European mutt
shirk, isordo, griffith, serpico, francesca and almost every character except for casca and kuashanis are white
I bet OP made this entire thread to trigger that one hapa autist that's completely obsessed with Guts and worships him as some kind of paragon of the Asian race
If so, well done
>wah wah wah this anime character looks like me
ugly people itt coping, thats what most cartoon art styles are though. also realistically griffith would probably be balding
Not everyone starts balding at the same rate.
>Edward the Black Prince
SEA swordman
>GRIFFIIIIIIIIIIIIITH
what do you think the black knight is then
martin lawrence?
>they call her the black widow
Miura wasn't aware of it himself, but he depicted Götz von Berlichingen - a german medieval knight with a prosthetic hand who was pretty badass and coined some iconic phrases like "Lick me in the arse". You can wiki him.
So yes, Guts (Götz) is European.
Miura and many mangaka research medieval European history for reference so he probably came across Götz and the idea stuck with him. Later the concept resurfaces organically yet unintentionally, and it fleshes out into this seemingly perfect idea because you forgot it already was one. Super common in writing-- many have to thoroughly research similar premises and concepts to prevent accidental rip-offs. Happens in music a lot too, like with Bathory.
Japanese artists colour characters dark to insinuate that they're dirty or tanned, because their culture doesn't just naturally assume everyone is white or African.
I've thought extensively about this and if berserk was real it would have to take place in Yugoslavia. Guts is serbian, judeau is bosnian, griffith is slovenian, skull knight is croatian, casca is a gypsy.