This, Riley would just repeat the Jouney playbook from the start of the series only he would pack in so much effect monster bullshit it’d actually be successful.
You really notice the difference in the quality of the gameplay when you see people playing it.
Team APS did a series where they'd build their decks with just the sets in release order and those first few games are boring as shit, but near the end they finally start becoming more interesting.
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With their latest GX era series there's honestly a lot of fun seeing the archetypes and combos.
I’m watching Yugioh GX rn and I’m fascinated by how decks match personality. But what interests me in particular is deck out decks like with Howard X Miller. How come there aren’t more mill decks out there?
The graveyard is basically a second hand in yugioh. If you don't mill the OP out quick enough you're just giving them a ton of resources to go off.
Pardon me for turning this into /tg/ for a moment. How hated are mill decks? Are they even viable?
Only when it's a one-turn combo deck that eventually gets a piece banned
Riley absolutely would've aped Kaiba's deck because Kaiba's a billionare that's cool with murder and that's some hood rat gangsta shit.
Huey would hate the fact that Riley's deck is based around blue eyes white anything and probably complain about the game losing its Egyptian roots all while playing an overly complicated strategy based deck.
Huey would be playing Gravekeepers with Necrovalley
Ah, I didn’t even think of that. come to think of it, the graveyard is what saved Yuki in the end of that duel, so now I see why it’s almost impossible to deck someone out. I love how Howard X Miller was reimagined as a lawyer with Escargoon’s va in the dub. Say what you want about 4kuds, when they’re funny, thry’re really funny.
That’s another thing I find fascinating: banned cards. I think I understand why it happened to Pot of Greed a higher probability of good draws but was Yuki’s bubbleman banned for having the same effect when there’s no other minsters on his field?
That makes total sense. Still, Bubbleman’s a pot of greed in spirit, so I wonder why he hasn’t been memed as much.
Would Tom Dubois use a hero deck?
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>Tom Dubois
He's a lawyer and a goody-2-shoes so he'd play counter fairies >OBJECTION!
3 months ago
Anonymous
That does look more his speed. Imagine him and Howard X Miller for duking it out.
>the latter won a duel so hard (according to the dub), his opponent got 7 years in the can for disorderly dueling
The stakes would be high.
I played a mill deck like 30 years ago in high school and it infuriated everyone. I can't imagine that's changed, even if Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
Now that I’m thinking about it more, if a graveyard counts as a second hand, and if the more cards you have thd better, then a deck out could be considered a punishment for reckless greed. That was kinda the point when Yugioh fought against that mindless puppet and Slifer
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And Riley would definitely be using monsters that had enhanced effects from how much cards he could fit in his hand.
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Anonymous
Now that I’m thinking about it more, if a graveyard counts as a second hand, and if the more cards you have thd better, then a deck out could be considered a punishment for reckless greed. That was kinda the point when Yugioh fought against that mindless puppet and Slifer
As seen here https://youtu.be/q08yTaT83xQ?feature=shared
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Anonymous
I honestly think this was one of the cooler duels in the series. The alternate win condition and the crazy infinite loop was so clutch.
Draw power is one of the best things in yugioh, but every archetype is packed with tutors now so Bubz isn't as impressive as he used to be.
That makes total sense. Still, Bubbleman’s a pot of greed in spirit, so I wonder why he hasn’t been memed as much.
Would Tom Dubois use a hero deck?
>memed as much
That's because of the numerous ways PoG has been reworded in printings despite its effect being so simple. Also it's just far more iconic.
>That’s another thing I find fascinating: banned cards.
Every other card game has set rotation. In Magic or Pokémon, you can only use a specific set of cards in raked/tournament play at any given point in time.
Yu-Gi-Oh! is unique among trading card games in that is has no set rotation whatsoever. There is nothing stopping you from going to a tournament and playing a card that was originally printed in the year 2000. But sometimes old cards that were never designed with modern archetypes in mind become too powerful; or Konami deliberately prints a brand new overpowered card that breaks the game just so everybody buys the card. That's when after a while certain cards will get banned in order for Konami to be able to continue growing the game's design space.
Though the opposite can happen as well: cards that were once considered overpowered can be powercrept to such a degree that they get removed from the banlist because they no longer pose a threat to the given metagame.
well not completely unique, off the top of my head none of Bandai's current major card games(Digimon, Dragon Ball, One Piece) do set rotations either
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Anonymous
>Digimon
Is the current Digimon game even old enough to have set rotations? It has been several years now, I guess. Not being into TCG very much, how "long" are set rotations usually encompassing?
Yu-Gi-Oh hinges on not having a set rotation, so much of the new stuff is legacy support for old cards. Introducing set rotation accomplishes nothing outside putting a band-aid on a gaping wound, while cutting off most of the game's appeal.
As much as I hate the current game, the best compromise is the multiple alternate formats, Rush Duels, and Duel Links for anyone that doesn't want to deal with that shit.
I’m watching Yugioh GX rn and I’m fascinated by how decks match personality. But what interests me in particular is deck out decks like with Howard X Miller. How come there aren’t more mill decks out there?
I played a mill deck like 30 years ago in high school and it infuriated everyone. I can't imagine that's changed, even if Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
>Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
You're joking, right? That card is either useless against most decks or would get blown up or negated the moment you tried to get it on board.
Runick is a somewhat viable mill deck, though it’s pretty much always ran mixed with other stuff into a control pile that usually kills the opponent by damage instead of waiting out the time to mill. They’re dogshit beyond that—too many decks like cards in the Graveyard now (Runick banishes), and most mill cards are super slow (Runick cards are mostly quick plays that regen advantage w/ their field).
And yes, people hate Runick.
I played a mill deck like 30 years ago in high school and it infuriated everyone. I can't imagine that's changed, even if Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
Gravity Bind is dogshit and only got worse when monster types were introduced that straight-up ignore it by default.
That’s another thing I find fascinating: banned cards. I think I understand why it happened to Pot of Greed a higher probability of good draws but was Yuki’s bubbleman banned for having the same effect when there’s no other minsters on his field?
Bubbleman has actual downsides, like the other anon explained. There’s actually a frickload of draw cards like POG around today that aren’t banned (or even used in most cases) simply because the caveats allow them to stick around, compared to POG which is just free advantage that by default puts the guy who opened it into an advantageous state resource-wise.
Riley absolutely would've aped Kaiba's deck because Kaiba's a billionare that's cool with murder and that's some hood rat gangsta shit.
Huey would hate the fact that Riley's deck is based around blue eyes white anything and probably complain about the game losing its Egyptian roots all while playing an overly complicated strategy based deck.
>Timeout, I said timeout! Check that lil nig'ga's deck. Are these cards legal, mhmm? I bet he stoled 'em from some poor little huwhite chilen in the crowd. Come on, chilen, speak up! You can tell ol' Unca Ruckus if this spikey haired monkuy boy done stole yur cards.
Ruckus would be complaining that they're playing a sand monkey card game made by Japs instead of playing an honest white man's card game like Magic the Gathering
Same with the Dark Magician girl, which is pretty funny since black magic has nothing to do with black people whatsoever.
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I don’t even understand why black people are called black if not all of them are completely. Same with whites
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Who fricking knows. When I was a kid, I can remember there being a point where it was apparently "wrong" to call them black, now it seems okay unless you specifically "blacks", which is just fricking arbitrary as frick, but then again, racial shit these days is such a fricking joke you can be called racist just for having an opinion of all things. And frick me if that makes any lick of sense.
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But does he have the Black Magician of Black homie Chaos??
Magic the gathering, maybe. Can't recall how whiny Wizards of the Coast are about mentioning it. But Yu-Gi-Oh seems fair game, Venture Bros and some other cartoons have mentioned it by name no problem.
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>Can't recall how whiny Wizards of the Coast are about mentioning it. But Yu-Gi-Oh seems fair game, Venture Bros and some other cartoons have mentioned it by name no problem.
I don't remember YGO being mentioned in Venture Bros but I remember 21 saying something about his Magic cards.
https://venturebrothers.fandom.com/wiki/Hate_Floats
3 months ago
Anonymous
Dean has a yugioh card in the first ORB episode. They did it out of the hole in the yard. Doc takes it off him and chides him for gambling.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Huh. I believe you, but do you have images of that?
It's brought up in the ORB episode, it was Dean's and apparently something called "Ancient Gear Fist"
And yea that's right, I had forgotten that 21 did mention having Magic cards
3 months ago
Anonymous
Huh. I believe you, but do you have images of that?
>The frick is this token and lifepoint shit? Isn't this just like blackjack or whatever where someone with the better numbers wins? >No grandad, there's strategy and consideration for your deck and the cards in it >homie, I'mma 'bout to deck you in the mouth with my belt if you don't start making this shit make sense!
Heh. Could you imagine Rummy & Ed playing this shit?
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Anonymous
>Hey, are you listening man? I'm trying to tell you how to do special summons >...which monster girl would you frick? >The frick you say? >Which of the monster girls would you frick? I can't decide. On one hand, Dark Magician girl got them fat tiddies. But them harpy ladies, love me some b***hes in jazzercise attire >homie what the, they're cards, they ain't real hoes >But like, just think for a moment, which monster would you frick if you could? >...Dark Magician Girl
I really don’t think it’s anything deeper than it being a popular 4kids dubbed show. And I also don’t think African Americans *as children* would specifically have any kind of Afrocentric obsession with Egypt- Egypt is just generally cool and just about every other kid in a America develops an ancient Egypt phase. Same thing with Ancient Greece.
>Boondocks episode talk about White people hobbies >shows a MTG tournament >in the middle of the game, one of the players suddenly stop playing and said "Wait a minute. This shit is gay." >everybody started flipping tables >something about the narrator (Huey) says something about fads ending >*intro plays* >Riley and Huey are watching Yugioh on TV >Tom reveals to Robert that he got a lot of money selling his MTG cards >Robert wanted to get into craze when he sees how much a Black Lotus sells for >They deciding to buy Yugioh cards >Robert knows nothing about collecting cards >The two boys started playing against each other but Huey keeps winning. >Robert realized that he ruined the resell value of the cards >He decided to win money in a tournament >Even Robert know that Huey is the better player but Huey thinks the game is lame >Riley studied hard to win >Both join the tournament and reach the finals >Robert is excited as he is guarantee to get first and second prize >Robert learns Konami doesn't give out prize money >Both boys are having a hard duel until Riley suddenly stop playing and said "Wait a minute. This shit is gay."
Fricking beautiful. Perfect encapsulation of the characters and the show’s humor
Who fricking knows. When I was a kid, I can remember there being a point where it was apparently "wrong" to call them black, now it seems okay unless you specifically "blacks", which is just fricking arbitrary as frick, but then again, racial shit these days is such a fricking joke you can be called racist just for having an opinion of all things. And frick me if that makes any lick of sense.
Don’t worry, it’ll all end in tears anyway the way things are going
>Ruckus goes on a rant about Huey and Riley probably just playing because they heard about that "we wuz kangs" thing and spends the entire tournament in the background talking shit while nobody bats an eyelid to him
I'd watch it
I can't remember, who is the kid that's dressed like Kiba? I get the Hinata girl is the Chinese girl from the soccer episode, and the Shino kid is the moron boy that dunked on Riley's ass
Okay, I was thinking Cairo was the kid dressed as Shikamaru. Guess since he's got Kiba's hair, it really makes him look so different compared to the other characters
Nothing but monster cards and not even good ones, just ones that look gangsta
So?
>ones that look gangsta
>egyptian god card
Not the worst strat he could run. Swarm the board with gangstas then pop 'em off for the OG Obelisk
This, Riley would just repeat the Jouney playbook from the start of the series only he would pack in so much effect monster bullshit it’d actually be successful.
20 copies of black hole, one copy of change of heart and an egyptian god card huey gave him because We Wuz
Something something buy dark attribute winged-beast type monster archetypes
you mean raidraptors?
He doesn't use trap cards cuz Traps are gay.
unintentionally makes the gayest deck possible
Literally the same as Joey's in episode 1 - a bunch of random monster cards he thought looked cool with no cohesion or strategy whatsoever
To be fair to Joey, back in those days there wasn't much you could really do.
There really very few removals in the early days. But I play Time Wizard just because it's fun.
You really notice the difference in the quality of the gameplay when you see people playing it.
Team APS did a series where they'd build their decks with just the sets in release order and those first few games are boring as shit, but near the end they finally start becoming more interesting.
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With their latest GX era series there's honestly a lot of fun seeing the archetypes and combos.
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>they name themselves after groups in the anime with their decks
That’s cute
Neat
Like Joey's but with more gangsta shit
Joey had a gambler deck, if I remember right. So is he going to have like dice and shit?
>I got five on it
The graveyard is basically a second hand in yugioh. If you don't mill the OP out quick enough you're just giving them a ton of resources to go off.
Only when it's a one-turn combo deck that eventually gets a piece banned
Huey would be playing Gravekeepers with Necrovalley
Ah, I didn’t even think of that. come to think of it, the graveyard is what saved Yuki in the end of that duel, so now I see why it’s almost impossible to deck someone out. I love how Howard X Miller was reimagined as a lawyer with Escargoon’s va in the dub. Say what you want about 4kuds, when they’re funny, thry’re really funny.
That’s another thing I find fascinating: banned cards. I think I understand why it happened to Pot of Greed a higher probability of good draws but was Yuki’s bubbleman banned for having the same effect when there’s no other minsters on his field?
*no other monsters on his field and no other cards in his hand, excuse me
>ctrl + f bubble
Guess not
https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2024-01-01/
because Bubbleman you need no cards which may leave you at a disadvantage while for Pot of Greed all you'll get is an advantage with no drawbacks
That makes total sense. Still, Bubbleman’s a pot of greed in spirit, so I wonder why he hasn’t been memed as much.
Would Tom Dubois use a hero deck?
>Tom Dubois
He's a lawyer and a goody-2-shoes so he'd play counter fairies
>OBJECTION!
That does look more his speed. Imagine him and Howard X Miller for duking it out.
>the latter won a duel so hard (according to the dub), his opponent got 7 years in the can for disorderly dueling
The stakes would be high.
Doesn’t seem like it. Thanks for sharing
Now that I’m thinking about it more, if a graveyard counts as a second hand, and if the more cards you have thd better, then a deck out could be considered a punishment for reckless greed. That was kinda the point when Yugioh fought against that mindless puppet and Slifer
And Riley would definitely be using monsters that had enhanced effects from how much cards he could fit in his hand.
As seen here https://youtu.be/q08yTaT83xQ?feature=shared
I honestly think this was one of the cooler duels in the series. The alternate win condition and the crazy infinite loop was so clutch.
Draw power is one of the best things in yugioh, but every archetype is packed with tutors now so Bubz isn't as impressive as he used to be.
>memed as much
That's because of the numerous ways PoG has been reworded in printings despite its effect being so simple. Also it's just far more iconic.
>every archetype is packed with fricking tutors
I hope they get paid well
>PoG
Even its initials are meme worthy. I understand now.
>That’s another thing I find fascinating: banned cards.
Every other card game has set rotation. In Magic or Pokémon, you can only use a specific set of cards in raked/tournament play at any given point in time.
Yu-Gi-Oh! is unique among trading card games in that is has no set rotation whatsoever. There is nothing stopping you from going to a tournament and playing a card that was originally printed in the year 2000. But sometimes old cards that were never designed with modern archetypes in mind become too powerful; or Konami deliberately prints a brand new overpowered card that breaks the game just so everybody buys the card. That's when after a while certain cards will get banned in order for Konami to be able to continue growing the game's design space.
Though the opposite can happen as well: cards that were once considered overpowered can be powercrept to such a degree that they get removed from the banlist because they no longer pose a threat to the given metagame.
well not completely unique, off the top of my head none of Bandai's current major card games(Digimon, Dragon Ball, One Piece) do set rotations either
>Digimon
Is the current Digimon game even old enough to have set rotations? It has been several years now, I guess. Not being into TCG very much, how "long" are set rotations usually encompassing?
Yu-Gi-Oh hinges on not having a set rotation, so much of the new stuff is legacy support for old cards. Introducing set rotation accomplishes nothing outside putting a band-aid on a gaping wound, while cutting off most of the game's appeal.
As much as I hate the current game, the best compromise is the multiple alternate formats, Rush Duels, and Duel Links for anyone that doesn't want to deal with that shit.
I’m watching Yugioh GX rn and I’m fascinated by how decks match personality. But what interests me in particular is deck out decks like with Howard X Miller. How come there aren’t more mill decks out there?
Pardon me for turning this into /tg/ for a moment. How hated are mill decks? Are they even viable?
I played a mill deck like 30 years ago in high school and it infuriated everyone. I can't imagine that's changed, even if Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
>Gravity Bind is likely banned these days.
You're joking, right? That card is either useless against most decks or would get blown up or negated the moment you tried to get it on board.
I play MTG and hatred of mill is the easiest way to spot a shitter
Yugiohgay here
Runick is a somewhat viable mill deck, though it’s pretty much always ran mixed with other stuff into a control pile that usually kills the opponent by damage instead of waiting out the time to mill. They’re dogshit beyond that—too many decks like cards in the Graveyard now (Runick banishes), and most mill cards are super slow (Runick cards are mostly quick plays that regen advantage w/ their field).
And yes, people hate Runick.
Gravity Bind is dogshit and only got worse when monster types were introduced that straight-up ignore it by default.
Bubbleman has actual downsides, like the other anon explained. There’s actually a frickload of draw cards like POG around today that aren’t banned (or even used in most cases) simply because the caveats allow them to stick around, compared to POG which is just free advantage that by default puts the guy who opened it into an advantageous state resource-wise.
>character named napoleon
>his deck are toy soldiers
Miss GX.
Oh just wait till you get to 5Ds.
Best mill deck game ever.
Riley absolutely would've aped Kaiba's deck because Kaiba's a billionare that's cool with murder and that's some hood rat gangsta shit.
Huey would hate the fact that Riley's deck is based around blue eyes white anything and probably complain about the game losing its Egyptian roots all while playing an overly complicated strategy based deck.
Would it be a mill deck?
He’d probably complain that the monsters themselves weren’t “black” enough. Like dark magician (black in the jap dub)
I can definitely see Huey running an Exodia Deck. But not like a normal deep draw strat, more like the new Millennium Exodia stuff.
>Blocks your path
.......like yugi's deck actually.
dark magician, dark magician girl. black luster soldier.
not sure
>Timeout, I said timeout! Check that lil nig'ga's deck. Are these cards legal, mhmm? I bet he stoled 'em from some poor little huwhite chilen in the crowd. Come on, chilen, speak up! You can tell ol' Unca Ruckus if this spikey haired monkuy boy done stole yur cards.
Ruckus would be complaining that they're playing a sand monkey card game made by Japs instead of playing an honest white man's card game like Magic the Gathering
Maybe, but he'd still try to ref the game since he's most likely the one in calling the shot given the fat bastard does nearly every job in Woodcrest
Did they ever explore how Ruckus felt about other races in the show?
The kickball game had him going ham with his dislike for Chinese and blacks, and pretty sure even before that episode he had talked shit about Asians.
Oh yeah
In the Japanese he’s called BLACK magician
Same with the Dark Magician girl, which is pretty funny since black magic has nothing to do with black people whatsoever.
I don’t even understand why black people are called black if not all of them are completely. Same with whites
Who fricking knows. When I was a kid, I can remember there being a point where it was apparently "wrong" to call them black, now it seems okay unless you specifically "blacks", which is just fricking arbitrary as frick, but then again, racial shit these days is such a fricking joke you can be called racist just for having an opinion of all things. And frick me if that makes any lick of sense.
But does he have the Black Magician of Black homie Chaos??
He doesn't hate them as much, but he still holds whites above all else.
There was the kickball episode where he had particular thoughts on the Chinese
I think that there is should a joke about how moronicly complicated the rulings are in YGO and how there is absolutely no vetting for MTG judges.
YGO and MTG would need expys, no?
Magic the gathering, maybe. Can't recall how whiny Wizards of the Coast are about mentioning it. But Yu-Gi-Oh seems fair game, Venture Bros and some other cartoons have mentioned it by name no problem.
>Can't recall how whiny Wizards of the Coast are about mentioning it. But Yu-Gi-Oh seems fair game, Venture Bros and some other cartoons have mentioned it by name no problem.
I don't remember YGO being mentioned in Venture Bros but I remember 21 saying something about his Magic cards.
https://venturebrothers.fandom.com/wiki/Hate_Floats
Dean has a yugioh card in the first ORB episode. They did it out of the hole in the yard. Doc takes it off him and chides him for gambling.
It's brought up in the ORB episode, it was Dean's and apparently something called "Ancient Gear Fist"
And yea that's right, I had forgotten that 21 did mention having Magic cards
Huh. I believe you, but do you have images of that?
>The frick is this token and lifepoint shit? Isn't this just like blackjack or whatever where someone with the better numbers wins?
>No grandad, there's strategy and consideration for your deck and the cards in it
>homie, I'mma 'bout to deck you in the mouth with my belt if you don't start making this shit make sense!
Heh. Could you imagine Rummy & Ed playing this shit?
>Hey, are you listening man? I'm trying to tell you how to do special summons
>...which monster girl would you frick?
>The frick you say?
>Which of the monster girls would you frick? I can't decide. On one hand, Dark Magician girl got them fat tiddies. But them harpy ladies, love me some b***hes in jazzercise attire
>homie what the, they're cards, they ain't real hoes
>But like, just think for a moment, which monster would you frick if you could?
>...Dark Magician Girl
I'm still upset that Pendulums weren't affected with the new master rules. I just wanna summon my pendulums from the Extra Deck.
You mean make it so you can Pendulum Summon everything face up from your extra deck again instead of only to areas Link Monsters point to?
Yup. I miss that, but I'm going back to fusions now.
There was no way they'd bring back pendulums to that extent. That would be way too much.
Why do black people like yugioh so much? Is it the Egyptian shit or is it because it's "cooler" than pokemon
I really don’t think it’s anything deeper than it being a popular 4kids dubbed show. And I also don’t think African Americans *as children* would specifically have any kind of Afrocentric obsession with Egypt- Egypt is just generally cool and just about every other kid in a America develops an ancient Egypt phase. Same thing with Ancient Greece.
DARK Magician
captcha: DAPS
WHO THE FRICK PLAYS CYBER DARK EDGE WITH SOUL-ABSORBING BONE TOWER?!
I just know Grandad would run Puppet Chess.
>Boondocks episode talk about White people hobbies
>shows a MTG tournament
>in the middle of the game, one of the players suddenly stop playing and said "Wait a minute. This shit is gay."
>everybody started flipping tables
>something about the narrator (Huey) says something about fads ending
>*intro plays*
>Riley and Huey are watching Yugioh on TV
>Tom reveals to Robert that he got a lot of money selling his MTG cards
>Robert wanted to get into craze when he sees how much a Black Lotus sells for
>They deciding to buy Yugioh cards
>Robert knows nothing about collecting cards
>The two boys started playing against each other but Huey keeps winning.
>Robert realized that he ruined the resell value of the cards
>He decided to win money in a tournament
>Even Robert know that Huey is the better player but Huey thinks the game is lame
>Riley studied hard to win
>Both join the tournament and reach the finals
>Robert is excited as he is guarantee to get first and second prize
>Robert learns Konami doesn't give out prize money
>Both boys are having a hard duel until Riley suddenly stop playing and said "Wait a minute. This shit is gay."
Fricking beautiful. Perfect encapsulation of the characters and the show’s humor
Don’t worry, it’ll all end in tears anyway the way things are going
>Ruckus goes on a rant about Huey and Riley probably just playing because they heard about that "we wuz kangs" thing and spends the entire tournament in the background talking shit while nobody bats an eyelid to him
I'd watch it
Is this the thread?
Love these kind of things
I can't remember, who is the kid that's dressed like Kiba? I get the Hinata girl is the Chinese girl from the soccer episode, and the Shino kid is the moron boy that dunked on Riley's ass
I dunno.
heh
Kiba is Cairo, Huey's old friend from Chicago who fights him in the 'Wingmen' episode
Okay, I was thinking Cairo was the kid dressed as Shikamaru. Guess since he's got Kiba's hair, it really makes him look so different compared to the other characters
No the shikamaru is that one wannabe activist kid Cairo is friends with now. The one who writes poems.
Riley's duel spirit is a Nordic monster and he's pissed its not gangster
All gun related