>the boy is mentally scarred by the death of his mother
>the boy literally scars his head with a rock
Woah there Miyazaki, dont get too deep with these metaphors
>the boy is mentally scarred by the death of his mother. >the boy literally scars his head with a rock
This movie sucked. Way too many things going on at once and it hardly made any sense while watching it.
Nobody gives a shit about Miyazaki’s “muh metaphors.”
it didn't suck, but it was pretty mid compared to his more other works
I did not enjoy it, just mostly found it to be boring.
>t. filtered troony
The israelites fear the samurai indeed. Get fricked.
It sucked and you have bad taste.
>bad taste.
Speak for yourself. You likely lick nignog axewounds every week, homosexual.
It was good until they went to the realm of the dead
>movie is miyazaki's swan song
>draws every bird except a swan
I liked it
Studio Ghibli movies are so over rated. Spirited away is good tho.
>Spirited away is good
Not really. It's milquetoast shit with too many plot threads and an unfocused narrative cognition. The ending also renders everything that transpired pointless. It's arguably one of their weakest films, but it got lauded here in the West because of Disney shills endorsing it.
A child moves to a new place and is overwhelmed by all the strange + alien elements around her she has a hard time adapting to. Disorientation in being uprooted in a move, with adults neglecting to hold her hand through the process.
That's one of the oldest pretentious narratives ever & only serves to highlight how much of a hack Miyazaki always was.
Adults are shown as narcissist pigs only caring for their pursuit (gluttony, greed), while the child is sidelined. Maybe Miyazaki is blaming himself a little.
I can never finish that overrated, drawn-out POS. I hate Ghibli movies but Mononoke is at least tolerable
I found it narratively hard to follow. I couldn't tell if it was all "le dream" until they went with the multiple doors to different realities shit. The fire girl was his mom or something? And the parakeets were introduced as antagonists way too late in the plot. It felt unexpected. The whole movie was like A.I. making a Miyazaki rip-off while using every one of his tropes. it just lacked the charm of his earlier works
Spirited Away remains unmogged.
Man how can something literally drawn out to you so hard to follow for you?
this movie is so full of metaphors of miyazaki's personal things. it's like he made it just for himself.
the magical tower in this movie represents the studio ghibli itself. takahata died when he started making this movie so he made this movie about themselves, that's not a secret now.
>the uncle who made the dream land = takahata who made ghibli
>heron = gibli's producer suzuki
>parrot king = bad/ugly miyazaki relying on takahata
>mahito = good/pure miyazaki
>kiriko = yasuda michioo who was a colour designer and co-worker of miyazaki for like 40 years, and died like 7 years ago
these are all confirmed by ghibli staff, and of course there's metaphors of his mommy issue and daddy issue too
You tried but you got it all wrong
watch the documentary
that makes more sense. I haven't read anything about the film since seeing it opening week
he doesn't care about making a good story
he's been pretty open about not being interested in it
>he doesn't care about making a good story
......I mean, yeah? It's a MOVIE; it's a VISUAL medium meant to invoke your feelings, not make you think. You're supposed to draw your own conclusions based on the artists' interpretation. If you care about story so much, read a damn book.
This film was beautifully animated but riddled with holes and completely incomprehensible once the first third is over.
>This film was beautifully animated but riddled with holes and completely incomprehensible
Welcome to anime.
>lynched by a movie that expains itself with shitty exposition
This board is fricking moronic
Kys
>t. seething weeb thinking Cinemaphile is one person
>The film's direction, and Mahito's motivation, are clear when he enters the magical tower: find Natsuko and return her. Eventually he finds Natsuko - she is in a specific room to birth her child, being guarded by an angry spirit of a meteor, a meteor that has never been mentioned prior to this. Before Mahito leaves the real world, he mentions that Natsuko may have gone willingly because she had to. Now that he has found her, she screams at him that she hates him, tells him that he can't be there and he must leave, while violent sticky paper attempts to mummify him. Mahito eventually gets knocked out by meteor rock spirit magic. Later we learn that Mahito entering the room is considered a grave taboo that has consequences.
>So: was she actually compelled to go? If so, why? Why does she have to have her baby here? What does the meteor want? Why does she tell Mahito she hates him? Is she possessed? What does she know that we don't? Why is it taboo to enter the room? The worst question of all, though, is: Is Natsuko in any danger at all? Since we know nothing about what is happening, we don't even know if she is unsafe. At one point in the film, it is mentioned that somebody in the family disappears into the tower and returns a year later unharmed. Is Mahito's quest completely pointless? Well, yes. Mahito wakes up elsewhere and we learn that his quest was in fact pointless, because Natsuko just shows up at the end of the film; she just manages to escape on her own somehow.
>The film never regains any narrative momentum after the Natsuko thread reaches a dead end. Mahito meets his great granduncle who is sort of the god of this realm? And he wants Mahito to replace him. Mahito must choose to become the heir, or let the world die and return to the real world. At no point does Mahito even think about this choice. There is no internal struggle or tension as to what he must do. The uncle just prompts him the question, and Mahito refuses to become his heir.
>Finally, there is Mahito's relationship with his real mother. Mahito meets a young woman named Himi, who says that Natsuko is her sister. We the audience know that that means she is Mahito's mother, but Mahito doesn't seem to piece it together. Mahito dreams about his mother's death twice earlier in the movie, waking up in tears the second time, so when he realizes who she is it will surely be an emotional, tearful reunion, right? Well, actually, no. At the end of the movie, Mahito and Himi both have lines that indicate they know they are mother and son. There is no emotional reunion, there isn't even an acknowledgement. At some point they just knew, and then the movie ends. I am convinced there is a cut scene or something and I am so gobsmacked at its exclusion. It could have easily been the movie's most emotional, bittersweet moment - Mahito realizes he has finally found his mother at the exact moment that they realize they are torn apart again. The audience has been anticipating this moment, and is left both satisfied and saddened. The perfect way to end the movie, because the very first scene is Mahito dreaming about his mother in the fire, so the final scene could be him emotionally reuniting with her. Instead, NOTHING.
There are many, many other confusing, unexplained elements but you all get the point. This film's problem isn't that it doesn't explain its fantasy elements, its that it doesn't explain things that are crucial to understanding the plot. It waves a hand and says 'philosophy!' in the hopes that you will think about its vague themes and forget that the story itself makes no sense.
the magic land needs a heir to the throne, either Mahito (as the old man wants) or the baby
>There is no emotional reunion,
did you miss pic related?
Does this face convey any """emotion""" to you?
This is what Rotten Tomatoes and Marvel have done to the brain of the modern movie watchers
>Why why why why wh-why this why that
You either get it because you’ve read the literature works it’s based or you don’t but that’s okay you can just interpret it in your own way. Not everything has a wookieepedia to offer you an official explanation to everything
>I need to be spoonfed info so the story becomes easier for me REEEEEEEEEEE