Does the writers want to like him or hate him ? He is so dame charming even when he was doing some brutal and jackass shit.
And why is garth ennis hate superhero so much, especially Captain America?
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Does the writers want to like him or hate him ? He is so dame charming even when he was doing some brutal and jackass shit.
And why is garth ennis hate superhero so much, especially Captain America?
Nobody cares
>And why is garth ennis hate superhero so much, especially Captain America?
I always think it's ironic and funny that Garth was never been in the military himself and is based on his Ideal and fantasy on soilder/war on war comics
Yet he kept shiting on military superheros like Captain America , think hin as a joke
While he's obsess with Punisher
Ennis has such a weird concept of the military. For whatever reason he can’t grasp the concept that soldiers would love characters that emphasize them to a superhuman degree.
In WW2, apparently Captain Midnight was the most listened to radio show among soldiers, and Captain America’s always had a lot of love in army bases. As a comic writer, I don’t get how Ennis doesn’t see the escapism and enjoyment a soldier would have in those characters, the same way people enjoy Spider-Man or Batman.
Just like i said in
In reality, many soilders who fought in war actually love superhero comics, it's what let them pass and going through the difficult war time.
Because it's not about what people in the army enjoy to consume as entertainment, it's about selling the fake, toned down, juvenile idea of war and disrespecting the actual heroism of people who died by making war look like easy and fun and light-hearted adventures, without the inhumanity, the horror and harrowing violence while also painting made up guys in spandex be the real heroes of the war who saved the world time and time again. It's like making countless comics about 9/11 and having Superheroes be the focus and reason people were saved, rather than actual first responders who ended up sacrificing their own long term health that day.
The soldiers enjoyed it, they weren't pearl-clutching and feigning offense like the bunch of limpwrists getting offended on their behalf, so who the frick cares if it's fake? It gave them entertainment they felt they wanted and needed and that's all that mattered to them.
He grew up both in a military family and in Ireland during peak IRA hours you fricking nonce
Why do Irish always say nonce? How can you tell he's a pedophile
sooo... he's never been in the military.
So he sucks the wiener of the military that regularly murdered civilians and collaborated with terrorists?
I don't care if you're supposed to hate him, he's funny as frick
They want him to be morally questionable.
>And why is garth ennis hate superhero so much, especially Captain America?
Garth is super gay for the military and in his mind Cap devalues and debases real soldiers.
>Garth is super gay for the military and in his mind Cap devalues and debases real soldiers.
But in reality, Cap is what inspired so many young man to actually stand up going up against the genocidal nazi .
Capital America punch Hitler before American even join the war.
Also I just don't get Garth think so bad about superheros and think that real Soldier and military will hate and laugh at superhero comics.
In reality, superhero comics actually help many soilders to pass the difficult and brutal time in the war.
Same thing with his hate on religion, think religion is completely silly and evil, real man/soilder don't need it, while in reality, religion believe is what hold many soilders to keep their morality and and conscience
First based ESL post I’ve seen on this sight in over a decade of being here.
You can just say he's a israelite, anon.
Why use many word when few word do trick? Also based post.
jensen ackles is just so fricking charming on stage it's hard to hate him. The closest I've come to saying "yeah he's a piece of shit" is when they use the cartoon.
His costume in the show is probably the only time I thought it didn't make the Superhero look like an obnoxious clown. Hell, if he didn't have those little star things and the eagle motif it wouldn't even be a costume.
Nah, he's just passionate about the art of acting.
The cowl seems weird. Can't figure why.
it makes the top of his head look too big and too round
bill cosby put him up to it to protect eddie murphys career, black comics have to stick together, cant have supes stealing their movie roles
If the "Homelander, I am your father" twist isn't revealed to be a lie so Soldier Boy can get within hugging distance and almost attempt to kill Homelander (which ends up making him crazier) then this is the gayest show of all time.
To clever for the show
Probably right because it would be the most effective way to kill him off and this show is too popular not to keep going and going until it zombies out or hits the bottom like GOT.
>Finally after years of daddy and attention issues, you learn your real father is the the same superhero you idolized as a kid
>you learn he always wanted you back then but he was forcefully separated from you
>If he got to raise you right, he would have happily given the spotlight to you once you grew up
>Finally you learn he's looking to make up for lost time and wants to hug you man to man, father to son
>So overcome with emotion and relief at the tight embrace, you never notice the room is getting brighter and brighter until it's too late.
He won't die but Homelander losing his powers would be a funny way to end the season/start the next one. Of course he'll quickly get them back since the show has to go on and on.
They'll go the opposite.
>A god cannot have a father
Would be better if it wasn't a lie, he really is his dad but he tries to kill him anyway.
Yeah, but the writers are in full "le toxic masculinity is bad and anyone who uses it is a bad person" mode this season, and Soldier Boy is supposed to be the poster child of that.
The poster boy of toxic masculinity is also Butcher himself, though.
Charming villains are nothing new. But the fact is everyone was wary of using him for a reason and if it weren’t for his ability to depower Homelander they would most likely kill him too
What I'm curious about is that if Soldier Boy didn't really do any of the Normandy/D-Day stuff, where is his PTSD coming from? The obvious answer is the shit with the Russians, but it's clear from the get go that he is fricking battle hardened with a take no shit attitude. He's actually fricking effective. He knows what he's talking about, knows how to fight, and has proven to be actually capable. So if he really was just a poster boy, how the frick did he pull all that off?
>but it's clear from the get go that he is fricking battle hardened with a take no shit attitude
it's called acting and becoming the mask
He had essentially been the cop who beats up protestors back in whatever time that was. He also got that confession from the Central Park Five, I think he was less a celebrity or more a paid enforcer. Like the Legend implied when he said current heroes were just celebrities
I think we're meant to think Hughie is right and the tough soldier guy act is indeed just an act. He seems capable (can fight HL) probably just because, as we see in BN's cartoon flashback, that he "sparred" (read: beat the frick out of his teammates) in the gym, which is more training than we've seen Homelander ever bother with.
GOOD MORNING SIRS
Anon, it's really obvious that he was set up as a much less psychopatic alternative to Homelander only to later on be revealed as just as bad if not even worse.
It was literally the hook for the entire season
Simple
>lets make a fascist white guy
>everyone loves him
>lets change the entire story to make everyone in-universe hates him, also he magically never fought in the war so we can paint him as a liar
He never fought in the war in the comics either sperg
How humiliating his his death going to be?
Homelander is going to throw him to the moon when they argue about who is better. Homelander saying "At least I can fly."
You are supposed to see him as the obvious lesser evil for now like how Hughie and Butcher do, while the writers are foreshadowing he is mentally unstable.
More than likely he has another personality or his outbursts of power are only going to get more frequent over time making him a timebomb. That is probably why Vought wanted him dead.
So he beat all other Payback members, because he wanted them to be heroes and not just some celebrities?
Nah. He was abusive because he was fricked in the head and thought he was the best shit.
He didn't want them to steal his spotlight
Show Black Noir is better than the comic version however i'm still sad that we'll never see the White house part
>i'm still sad that we'll never see the White house part
I just want the HEEEEEEEEEEEH and CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK
But honestly it would be more interesting if his backstory is also a red herring and Black Noir is indeed a super killer experiment with gene editting technology.
They could always swap out the original Black Noir for Clonelander without anyone, in-universe and the audience, knowing. They just need to not have moments like when Maeve triggers his allergies.
How does the clonelander thing make any sense, if he's their plan to deal with Homelander, what's their plan for dealing with Black Noir?
He's a weird moron.
I know it's supposed to be heavy breathing, but i always read the HEEEEENH as some literal autistic noise Black Noir makes
I always imagined him sounding like he has down syndrome.
>i always read the HEEEEENH as some literal autistic noise Black Noir makes
...it's not?
I thought so too at first
>AEEEEEHHH I EAT BABY AND TOOK PICTURES AND WHILE DOING IT MY PEEPEE MADE YOGURT
God I'd eat 10 babies to see Anthony Starr acting this scene.
I heard him like Black, from Twisted Metal: Black. Very monosyllabic and slow.
>from Twisted Metal: Black
You and me are friends now
Good taste.
Same. There's a ton of comic moments I'm sad we'll never get in the show, but some of the stuff they move around more than makes up for it.
Maybe Homelander talking to his most evil self in the mirror will evolve into a scene like the big reveal, Homelander attacks the white house and goes full Gollum having an argument with his other self going completely manic with a huge shiteating grin.
I had that same thought, seems very plausible.
Black Noir is easily the best part of the series. I really like the changes they've made away from Garth's moronic fricking "le twist". Ennis would have been such an amazing writer if he just toned down the edginess of his comics and stopped writing not-Punisher characters over and over and over again
The twist in the comic is incredibly overrated here, I'm glad they ditched it in favor of making Homelander a straight up psycho instead of douchebag being "tricked" into being one. The real twist was always Butcher's super genocide plan which actually felt like a natural conclusion for the character instead of an asspull and I think they've been hinting at a version of it with this episode.
This isn't even a complaint, so much as commentary about a quirk of the writing, but the fact that he didn't storm Normandy, does it really matter that much even in story considering that he is a very competent fighter, who did repeatedly throw down at a moments notice, not only just in general but without a second thought with Homelander?
It feels like something they carried over from the comics because it was a good line but did nothing to actually translate into the show.
I'm enjoying just about everything in this new season.
The hughie/annie thing was a drag, but there are real stakes now involving temp v
Ackles is so damn charming, you forget he's portraying the epitome of toxic masculinity
Does anyone else not feel a single ounce of remorse for any of the members of Payback? I know the show is trying to make Soldier Boy out to be a bad guy but aside from roughing up his teammates and just being a collasal douchebag, what has he done? Keep in mind the entire Payback team struck first with their attempt to subdue him in Nicaragua. Everything that follows is on them. Noir most of all.
Are we forgetting the wonton acts of destruction, not the least of which being the death of MM's family?
The guy from Stranger Things said it best, Americans are convinced they're the heroes despite all they sweep under the rug
Nah. Noir didn't deserve that shit.
Americans this Americans that, this world would be a much worse place if it wasn't for the yank's you Black person posting homosexual.
if someone routinely and gleefully sabotaged my life and beat me senseless whenever he got annoyed or threatened - i'd want them dead. i think you would, too.
Oh I'd want him dead to, but the second you decide to make that choice then you better eat those consequences. Also Noir could have always left. No one is forcing them at gun point to dress in stupid outfits and play hero. They decided to do that. Their EGO and nothing.
>aside from roughing up his teammates and just being a collasal douchebag, what has he done?
Dude raped Gunpowder
I’m surprised Butcher didn’t get more flack for being willing to out a rape victim
Gunpowder claims that wasn't true, even when he was spilling the beans he said it was just physical abuse. Maybe he just put it in that report to try and finally get something done about the beatings.
Even in Noir's cartoon flashback all he did was beat Gunpowder.
>aside from roughing up his teammates and just being a collasal douchebag, what has he done
are you moronic? like actually moronic?
Y'all homies is gay and ya got a type.
Walker did literally nothing wrong.
>the writers made a multilayered character with dynamic personality traits that make me question if they’re more than what they appear on the surface
>this is bad somehow
They're playing both sides, rather wellI I'd add.
>I'll take things conservatives tell themselves for 200 Mayim
Its funny seeing how much this character absolutely broke Cinemaphile. Like they were actually convinced he was meant to be a good guy and only got changed with this last episode because test audiences liked him too much.
The whole point of the show is that the superheroes, and the Boys as well, are flawed. That's the entire premise.Being lulled into thinking Soldier Boy is a good guy before getting the rug pulled under you was always the point.
Homelander is meant to be likable,too. The only major character (as in, has a sizeable amount of time, not minor ones like Bluehawk) outright designed to be hated is Stormfront, for obvious reasons, but even she's given moments that make her endearing.
I wanted Soldier Boy to be a mixed bag, and right now, he's just "normal bad" not comically evil like Homelander
>Its funny seeing how much this character absolutely broke Cinemaphile. Like they were actually convinced he was meant to be a good guy and only got changed with this last episode because test audiences liked him too much.
Wait what was it going to be prior to the test audiences?
There were no test audiences
It's Cinemaphile copium
>we will never get to see this sexy old b***h's probably awesome breasts
And on that day, Soldier Boy wept
I showed my brother who wasn't down to watch The Boys some Soldier Boy clips, and he's actually thinking of watching the show now.
>You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at The Deep and you look at Homerlander and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another member of the seven, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But HL's a genetic freak and not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST.. Then you add Soldier Boy to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at Herogasm, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but HL, HL got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Soldier Boys KNOWS he can't beat HL and he's not even gonna try!
So The Depp, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus HL's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Herogasm. But then you take HL's 75% chance of winning, if he was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, HL got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Herogasm. See The Deep, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Herogasm
See, but I'm gonna break it down for all you ladies. Would you rather be with HL? Or would you rather be with The Deep?
>people call garth ennis irish even though he was a protestant in northern ireland ie he was a anglo homosexual
Both? Even Homelander is far more likable than he was in the comic, and it's not like Homelander is a super-nice and relatable character or anything, but comic Homelander was a one-dimensional butthole.
Why did anybody believe Soldier Boy fought in WWII when Supes aren't allowed in the military?
In the comics Vought tried to get supes into the military during WW2 with the original Soldier Boy and the Avenging Team, but they were untrained and fricked up and all got massacred by the germans.
Do you need the show to literally spell it out for you? They made it clear that he's another scummy cape, the Homelander of his generation. But he's played by a charismatic actor and he's the slightly lesser evil between the 2. That's it.
I don't mind him being a scummy cape but I do see a miss opportunity in not giving him some nuance. He could have fought in WWII on a limited capacity and still be the piece of shit he currently is.
Yeah, i think having him "steal valor" was pretty unnecessary. He's bulletproof and far stronger than a super soldier, so there's be nothing actually brave about him stomping regular human nazis. So the lies are silly. The show points out that soldier boy has remorselessly killed civilians on multiple occasions like MM's though...so he's like another A-train?
When will Homelander and Soldier Boy realize they're not only father and son but eskimo brothers? Which means, technically, Homerlander fricked his step-mom.
The Boys uses supers as an analog for celeb culture. So no, it's mot because he hates Superman or Batman. He hates how Hollywood has more influence on our society than the actual people running it despite not being in touch with society.
Alan Moore and Garth Ennis, both are atheist, both hate superhero and superhero culture , both are heavily in
to puting extreme sex and violent in their works, both are strong communist supporter despite living in a free democracy who hate American culture and government, especially conservative. Both claims to be femsnist, yet treat their female characters as rape victims that mostly just useless and need men to confrot them. Both made lots cash form comics book fans and nerds, yet keep mock and made joke of nerds every time when they had the chance to do so in their works
Why are these european atheist writer so similar ?