>captures and intoxicates people >nothing he can be charged with
I can get behind the "no murder" thing if you include huge logical asspull leaps, although this is also impossible since outside of a very minor few people, even those who successfully solve the trap puzzles they still get killed by some random mechanism, which was the reason I stopped watching them since there was no pay off to any of those traps.
We're not charging you at all. See, the most you could accuse my department of is detainment. Those handcuffs on your wrists? There's a key hidden somewhere here in the buttholes of every inmate in this prison. Find it before the date of your execution and you just might survive. Your life is in your own hands but are you brave enough to seek other holes for your salvation? Make your choice.
Kidnapping, endangerment and manslaughter. >NOOOooOOOoo YOU DON'T GET IT THEY MADE A CHOICE TO BE IN THAT SITUATION THROUGH THE LIVES THEY LIVED PRIOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
>Kidnapping
Not really, they were never held against their will and always had the option to leave >endangerment
Wouldn't stick either, you're only in danger if you fail the test. That's like saying the highway is endangering you when you choose to walk onto it >manslaughter
Good luck with that one, easily pled down to aggravated assault at best (6 months probation minus time served)
Nah he lays dead cuz his cancer killed his ass. Jigsaw was so busy trying to "save" everyone but wasted all the time he had left n to save himself. GAME OVER
>He fell for the cancer ruse
It was an elaborate puppet and jiggy WILL return in Saw XII: The Trial of Jigsaw to put this debate to rest once and for all
>Not really, they were never held against their will and always had the option to leave
If I drug you and put you in a regular IRL escape room, that's still kidnapping >Wouldn't stick either, you're only in danger if you fail the test.
Who made the test with the dangerous fail conditions in the first place? >Good luck with that one, easily pled down to aggravated assault at best
He had clear motive and intent, and there's plenty of tapes that serve as evidence with his voice obviously on them, any deaths that happen are definitely his fault, and are thus manslaughter
Saw 1 and 2 are must watch films. It's hard to recommend anything past those two because plot wise each film is heavily connected to the previous but I personally think 5 6 and 7 are great too. Jigsaw and spiral are shit.
>anon you wasted your youth dating a drug addict so now you have been completely immobilized and a key has been placed in your stomach >the only way for your girlfriend to live is if she cuts you open while you lie there helpless >live or die... make your choice
Jiggy is harsh but fair
Former ICJ judge here. Technically, he can be charged with taking people from one location to another one without their explicit will and signature. It is also true that he can be charged with putting people in situations that bear the risk of bodily injury and potentially fatal consequences. However, and this is important in understanding how such people are convicted. Jigsaw's intentions also fall into the equation which means that he a) intends to teach his "victims" a lesson for life and thus make them better persons, b) he gives them explicit instructions how to learn that lesson and c) he acts without malice.
Moreover, on the aspect of kidnapping. Evidence obviously would show that he is too frail to actively kidnap someone, ergo this would be instantly dropped in a serious court.
The chances of him being convicted of murder, let alone kidnapping are extremely low, 0.5% tops.
Former ICJ judge here. Technically, he can be charged with taking people from one location to another one without their explicit will and signature. It is also true that he can be charged with putting people in situations that bear the risk of bodily injury and potentially fatal consequences. However, and this is important in understanding how such people are convicted. Jigsaw's intentions also fall into the equation which means that he a) intends to teach his "victims" a lesson for life and thus make them better persons, b) he gives them explicit instructions how to learn that lesson and c) he acts without malice.
Moreover, on the aspect of kidnapping. Evidence obviously would show that he is too frail to actively kidnap someone, ergo this would be instantly dropped in a serious court.
The chances of him being convicted of murder, let alone kidnapping are extremely low, 0.5% tops.
He tried to convict a jigsaw inspired killer but the appeal overturned his conviction and a panel of judges found his sentencing to be outside of the stated guidelines
How do you know?
And you admit he was indeed a killer?
And how can a panel of judges just decide to remove another judge?
And why would he have tried it, when the chances are only 0.05%?
I am a supreme court judge specializing in criminal law and its gonna be a tough one.
Though I would probably have to throw any conviction out the window, he really played the system by giving the "victims" the choice.
I wouldn't charge him with anything, I would've just listened, and that's what no one did.
Fobs
This. Sit your white ass down, be quiet and LEARN
can't hear him with your black ass jaw jabbering all day, shut the frick up and sit down in the theater already, god damn.
fippybippy
Just got back from watching Saw X with my gf. It was pretty entertaining. What did everyone else here think of it?
it was pretty entertaining
JigC is so rockin'
what's the point of including your gf in your statement. nobody cares dude
>chud immediately seethes at the letters g and f together
lol
lmao
one time I took a girl to the movies and ate a bologna sandwich to her disgust. We ended up dating six years.
it was pretty entertaining my gf hated it but that made it more fun
best saw film in the series
its like a bizarro world
murder
I'm a federal judge and I can tell you that there's absolutely nothing you could realistically convict him of.
Not on the federal level but he broke several state laws
t. Judge for the state
>captures and intoxicates people
>nothing he can be charged with
I can get behind the "no murder" thing if you include huge logical asspull leaps, although this is also impossible since outside of a very minor few people, even those who successfully solve the trap puzzles they still get killed by some random mechanism, which was the reason I stopped watching them since there was no pay off to any of those traps.
The charges, Janny?
My dad is Joe Biden and he said that he would pardon Jiggy if a corrupt GOP court ever found him guilty somehow.
show your wiener, hunter
Needing 7 shitty movies after 2 to finally make another decent Saw film
3 is good
Saw X was great, not what I expected but pretty alright
Pissing and shitting and farting while cumming
We're not charging you at all. See, the most you could accuse my department of is detainment. Those handcuffs on your wrists? There's a key hidden somewhere here in the buttholes of every inmate in this prison. Find it before the date of your execution and you just might survive. Your life is in your own hands but are you brave enough to seek other holes for your salvation? Make your choice.
Kidnapping, endangerment and manslaughter.
>NOOOooOOOoo YOU DON'T GET IT THEY MADE A CHOICE TO BE IN THAT SITUATION THROUGH THE LIVES THEY LIVED PRIOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT
>Kidnapping
Not really, they were never held against their will and always had the option to leave
>endangerment
Wouldn't stick either, you're only in danger if you fail the test. That's like saying the highway is endangering you when you choose to walk onto it
>manslaughter
Good luck with that one, easily pled down to aggravated assault at best (6 months probation minus time served)
Jiggy walks
Nah he lays dead cuz his cancer killed his ass. Jigsaw was so busy trying to "save" everyone but wasted all the time he had left n to save himself. GAME OVER
>He fell for the cancer ruse
It was an elaborate puppet and jiggy WILL return in Saw XII: The Trial of Jigsaw to put this debate to rest once and for all
You're the only puppet here, but who's the one really pulling your strings? Are you willing to cut yourself free? Make your choice.
Wrong on all accord.
Everything sticks a Saw goes to jail
>Not really, they were never held against their will and always had the option to leave
If I drug you and put you in a regular IRL escape room, that's still kidnapping
>Wouldn't stick either, you're only in danger if you fail the test.
Who made the test with the dangerous fail conditions in the first place?
>Good luck with that one, easily pled down to aggravated assault at best
He had clear motive and intent, and there's plenty of tapes that serve as evidence with his voice obviously on them, any deaths that happen are definitely his fault, and are thus manslaughter
which Saw movies are actually wort watching?
Friday the thirteenth part VI
1-6
Saw 1 and 2 are must watch films. It's hard to recommend anything past those two because plot wise each film is heavily connected to the previous but I personally think 5 6 and 7 are great too. Jigsaw and spiral are shit.
why did they make the plots so interconnected and confusing in these cheap schlock gore flicks
1, 2 and now X. X was genuinely really fricking good
>checks notes
>reviews the reports
I can't charge you with anything, sorry for bringing you all the way down here, enjoy the rest of your day
Charges? Imma just gonna shoot you.
Chawge dis!
>anon you wasted your youth dating a drug addict so now you have been completely immobilized and a key has been placed in your stomach
>the only way for your girlfriend to live is if she cuts you open while you lie there helpless
>live or die... make your choice
Jiggy is harsh but fair
Former ICJ judge here. Technically, he can be charged with taking people from one location to another one without their explicit will and signature. It is also true that he can be charged with putting people in situations that bear the risk of bodily injury and potentially fatal consequences. However, and this is important in understanding how such people are convicted. Jigsaw's intentions also fall into the equation which means that he a) intends to teach his "victims" a lesson for life and thus make them better persons, b) he gives them explicit instructions how to learn that lesson and c) he acts without malice.
Moreover, on the aspect of kidnapping. Evidence obviously would show that he is too frail to actively kidnap someone, ergo this would be instantly dropped in a serious court.
The chances of him being convicted of murder, let alone kidnapping are extremely low, 0.5% tops.
>Former
What happened?
Guy was a shit judge, now you can see why
He tried to convict a jigsaw inspired killer but the appeal overturned his conviction and a panel of judges found his sentencing to be outside of the stated guidelines
How do you know?
And you admit he was indeed a killer?
And how can a panel of judges just decide to remove another judge?
And why would he have tried it, when the chances are only 0.05%?
>you scammed me
>now cut off your leg as retribution
Was Saw X secretly anti-Indian?
I am a supreme court judge specializing in criminal law and its gonna be a tough one.
Though I would probably have to throw any conviction out the window, he really played the system by giving the "victims" the choice.
I'm gonna give you a choice.