The concept of Wonder Woman as a "feminist" hero has always fascinated me. her creation was influenced by the fetishistic and pseudointellectual views of her creator(William Marston). Wonder Woman really shouldn't exist beyond that one guy's writing. Despite this due to circumstances she was basically "appropriated" by feminists who embraced her as a heroine and icon of female strength and women's rights
I think another issue is the fact that at least in the west, women do have a semblance of equality and have their own voices and opinions, her all female society is now just a bunch of Immortal LARPers who aren't really women in the sense they aren't human beings. and are completely disconnected from the experiences of regular women.
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>her all female society is now just a bunch of Immortal LARPers who aren't really women in the sense they aren't human beings. and are completely disconnected from the experiences of regular women.
Actually sounds like a really interesting plot for a comic or a cartoon or a movie.
>Amazons have let untold amounts of rapes, murders and abuses of women go punished because they refuse to leave their isolationist paradise and actually engage with real women in the real world
>Wonder Woman steps out into the real world and gains some life experiences
>calls out the amazons when she returns for being fricking useless
>uses her Diana Prince disguise to create women's shelters for the abused or charities auctioning off Themysciran paintings and statues for impoverished single mothers or some shit
>basically actually be an advocate for women
I'll be real I only read Perez's run where she fights Ares because he wanted to nuke the world because WAR.
What about that sounds interesting to anyone
sex with muscle women
nice
Well real women are a never ending source of disappointment.
>Well real women are a never ending source of disappointment.
I find it funny how many feminists hate classical Disney princesses yet treat Sailor Moon as a feminist icon. Outside of the lesbians. All the sailor scouts, as far as we know, are still canon virgins at the end of the series. Sailor Moon herself canonically only had sex with her husband, who is an analog to Prince Charming. What's really gets me is feminists praising Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt. Panty's story arc is realizing her bawdting a made her neglect the only guy who actually loves her. Panty learning that being in a real loving relationship feels better. Turbo bawd was a major plot point. PASWG the most bawd-shaming anime ever.
I think you have no fricking clue what womens rights and self image was like in 1941, when she was created. It was still commonly believed that too much exercise for women would cause their uteruses to fall out.
to an extent its not unscientific, rapid weight loss fro women causes long term health issues, chiefly the reproductive organs.
Anon, you're a frickwit. The first person to be designated "scientist" was a woman. In 1834 (Mary Somerville). This weird bourgeois myth of women as an oppressed class has never been true. In every age, wealthy women secured status by opining about the absence of franchise and property rights they were allowed. Poor women resembled poor men. They were equally poor.
>just burgers things
Fictional character being icon is moronic.
> t.moronic revisonist.
Before the end of WW2, no Women had the right to vote in EU. They had to wait 1971 in Switzerland.
Bourgeois aside, were inequity still existed between gender, women didn't had the right to open a bank account in some EU countries. Or, if they worked their bank account was under their father or husband's name. They needed a written permission to access it too.
It's not revisionism to acknowledge the basic fights. Women were infantalized. They were the weaker sex (Patmore's Angel in the House). After the advent of Social Darwinism, this weakness was quickly recharacterized as inferiority. Wealthy women have never been oppressed. The absence of extended franchise wasn't unique in being withheld, workingclass men didn't get the vote in England until 1867. The paternalism you describe in the banking/business was easily circumvented. Women ran households and their associated finances. This isn't revisionism.
>Social Darwinism
Hahahaha oh wow
Don't you have a PragerU video to jack off to or something
Are you gonna bring up bolshevism next
No idea what PragerU is. You think Social Darwinism wasn't a thing? Huxley had to get on stage in 1893 and repudiate it. Appreciate the know-nothing deflection, though.
Voting is a scam and so are banks.
>Fictional character being icon is moronic
Yeah, it's not like Based Japan has ever made a character a citizen or something...
you could actually try reading Golden age WW and find it's only occasional moments of bondage and most of it is her fighting T.Rexes and riding kangaroos and shit. Yeah she gets tied up, but so did most heroes.
Did they make a 50th anniversary cover
Marston gets the credit but he didn't create Wonder Woman in a vacuum. She was a collab with his wife and their mistress.
What is it with Utopians and cuckery? Serious question. In every piece of early socialism/communitarianism (Fourierism, Brooks Farm, Oneida Community) there's this underlying urge for polygamy that they justify with weird hyperegalitarianism that implodes IRL. It really doesn't make sense when you think about it. Themyscira is just Gilman's Herland with rope kink.
That would probably work as bait better if it weren't on a site obsessed with black wiener.
>bait
If you don't know what I'm talking about, just ask.
fricking two women and having wild kinky sex is cuckery now?
>mfw I was cucked on saturday in my fmf
>Wonder Woman really shouldn't exist beyond that one guy's writing
Is there any comic book character this doesn't apply to?
Batman is nothing if not for all the creators after Bob Kane
You mean Bill Finger
No, because like it or not,Bob Kane came up with the idea first. It's just that all the good ideas came with Finger. Which disproves the "only the original creators matter" idea.
he came up with the name and concept of a bat themed superhero atleast
>character was something then became something else
This is capeshit 101
>Wonder Woman really shouldn't exist beyond that one guy's writing. Despite this due to circumstances she was basically "appropriated" by feminists who embraced her as a heroine and icon of female strength and women's rights
You aren't wrong. This is why Wonder Woman seems to just constantly change based on the writer. Other heroes might evolve with the times or have details change or be open to alternate interpretations or emphasize other aspects of the character, but Wonder Woman simply doesn't have a long standing concrete mythos or themes. She just kind of lucked into being the default main woman hero for DC and writers are still trying to figure out her character.
Anon William Marston was a militant feminist who thought the world should be ruled by women and based her off of his wife and dominatrix.
>Women are 100% equal so feminism doesn't real
Another swing and a miss
What a remarkably stupid thread you've made
Marston was a feminist. Why do you keep posting this thread?
Just post what we all want
This is what Wonder Woman is
>her creation was influenced by the fetishistic and pseudointellectual views of her creator
So a feminist.
They don't think much about it man, they just see a badass chick doing badass shit.