Massive lower and middle class tax hikes making cost of living unaffordable thus causing a class civil war where the rich are destroyed and devoured and marxism is installed for the next thousand years
Frick you, you NIMBY c**t. I bet you want to be the "vanguard of the proletariat" so you get a komissar job when allthe bloodletting is done. Newsflash: you will be put against the wall and shot and the same ~~*rich*~~ that you rile against will be the Inner Party.
Congratulations, you have played yourself.
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That’s not my viewpoint, it’s the viewpoint of trump worshipers. Or would you care to explain to me how price gouging the lower and middle classes until they literally can’t afford to eat is good for the nation?
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That’s not my viewpoint, it’s the viewpoint of trump worshipers. Or would you care to explain to me how price gouging the lower and middle classes until they literally can’t afford to eat is good for the nation?
>Full House >Family Matters >Growing Pains
If all these shows could do it 30+ years ago, why can't it be done now? Carl Winslow had flaws too, so did Danny Tanner. They still held respectable jobs and their children looked up to them. They're not morons or buttholes or worthless.
>f all these shows could do it 30+ years ago, why can't it be done now?
Because those shows were fricking trash back then and people realized it today.
>Full House >After the death of his wife Pam, sports anchor Danny Tanner recruits his brother-in-law (Pam's younger brother) Jesse, a rock musician, and Joey, his best friend since childhood who works as a stand-up comedian, to help raise his three young daughters in San Francisco—DJ, Stephanie, and Michelle. Over time, the three men, as well as the girls, bond and become closer to one another.
? Not married, three men, comedian, rock star, probably weren't portrayed as intelligent.
You will never own a house.
You will never have a career.
You will never have a family.
You will never know how sweet success tastes.
You will always worry about the next bill, the next rent payment, the next toothache.
Because you’re a fricking loser.
You have no marketable skills.
You have nothing to offer society.
You are a consumer unit, nothing more.
And it’s your own fault. All of it. You have done nothing to secure success in your life.
You have not taken upon yourself the responsibility to ensure your own comfort in the future.
And when you look at the festering cesspool of depression, powerlessness, failure, loneliness, dysfunction and poverty that is your lot, you ask only one question: “How could society allow this to happen to me?”
Next time you lay down to sleep, know that the truth you try so hard to bury in your mind will not be silenced forever- your failures are by your own hands created.
NTA but I wanna play >You will never own a house.
Already do. 2,200 sq ft on .5 acres. 3.4% fixed. Id love to sell and move somewhere a bit bigger but interest rates are crazy. No rush. Hope they come down though. >You will never have a career.
I do, but I dont find it very fulfilling. And its not particularly well paying. Basically Im in it for the schedule which is whatever I want. Can’t imagine being locked into a 9-5 while kiddos are young. >You will never have a family.
3 kids. Theyre great man >You will never know how sweet success tastes.
Career wise fair enough. I definitely had higher ambitions when i was younger. Feels like a lifetime ago. I consider myself successful in other areas though >You will always worry about the next bill, the next rent payment, the next toothache.
I definitely stress about money. Were not paycheck to paycheck but a major expense would throw us for a loop. >Because you’re a fricking loser.
Well thats just mean. So is most the rest for that matter. Have a great night anon
I can't imagine being this disconnected from reality or even just from the idea of what a healthy functional life for a man is. The best argument against liberalism is to simply be quiet and let liberals explain themselves, it all falls apart to any sane person all on its own once you guys actually start talking.
He’s the main comic relief character so his competence changes based on the plot. He can be a bumbling caveman who even his kids see as beneath them, or a super genius who can make home AC from scratch that cools a little too well.
I can't think of one sitcom where the dad cares about his health, going back to the honeymooners, the joke was a fat husband. The first healthy male sitcom character that comes to mind is the one guy from parks and rec.
Tim is not really shown as caring about his health or well being
>Bluey centres around Detective Sergeant 'Bluey' Hills, a name derived from the long-running ABC radio serial 'Blue Hills'. Bluey is a maverick cop who breaks every stereotype image. He drinks, smokes and eats to excess, and therefore is rather large, but it is his unusual investigative methods that set him apart. He has bent or broken every rule in the book at some stage, to the point where no-one else wants to work with him. But he gets results, and is therefore too valuable to lose, so the powers-that-be banish him to the basement of Russell Street Police Headquarters where he is set up in his own department, a stratagem that keeps him out of the way of other cops.
There aren't shows like that because it would be dull. Nobody wants to watch a show about a guy who's got everything under control, that makes for a boring story.
People did exactly that for fricking years moron. The Cosby Show, Roseanne, Full House, fricking MASH? The most flawed of these was Dan Connor and he was still a big burly tough guy who loved his family and was reasonably intelligent.
>download tubi and look at sitcoms made before 1990
I’m 45 so I’m definitely interested in your concept of time where “before 1990” and “last fifteen years” intersect.
Jay and also Mitchell, despite being gay. He's constantly painted as the main, the provider, the leader, and is well respected by his family and peers. He's also extremely intelligent, has his shit in order, and cares about his health.
Phil is basically all of that other than being respected by peers and his step dad, and he pigs out on junkfood from time to time.
At least up until like season 4, i dipped out after that point.
Phil is very good at his job and is absolutely respected. This is clearly displayed when he has to host an award show for them and he is very much the star of the nerdy realtors. His step dad doesn’t respect anyone hardly so that’s not really relevant.
Jay >Grouchy old man, divorced, raising another man's son
Phil >Borderline moronic but still has a cushy realtor job
Cam and Mitchell >Closest to OPs description but there is no dominant male in the relationship. Also their kids(?) are adopted
moronic
Not really. He's portrayed as the male equivalent of a ditz for two primary reasons, the "lore" reason for which is explained in the pilot episode. The other being for comedic effect, but that happens to every character. Because the show is a comedy. When the chips are down Phil is unironically the hardest one in the family, and his family, including Jay, come to his defense out of respect for his logic, understanding, and approach both to parenting and general conflicts.
By the latter half of the series Jay and Phil's roles are effectively reversed, while still maintaining most of their primary character traits, again, for comedic effect.
Sad that the straight fat guy plays a more convincing gay guy than the actual gay guy
>that one interview of both actors where the fat guy is acting really straight and the skinny actually gay one is being so gay he is making the fat one uncomfortable.
You could see it in the fat guys face lmao, like "bro we were acting, chill the frick out"
Its the only show within the last 15 years that somewhat meets the OPs picture's requirements. 3 individual families each making up a larger one. Each family is headed by a married couple, with children. The men are seen as providers and well respected. True they're often the butt of jokes, but that's done to everyone in the show because its a comedy. All the men in the show have their house in order, sure they deal with comedic problems that arise but again that's because the show demands it. But all 3 families are thriving. And the greater family as a whole is happy
There's no market for wholesome shows. Maybe you didn't notice but Euphoria is a big hit despite it being the most degenerate, depressing thing possible. Teens love that shit
>no market for wholesome shows.
Hallmark Channel's bread and butter is wholesome stuff for women that has no other merit than to be wholesome. Everything being degenerate and violent has been a crutch for poor writing for a while now.
Jappas just can't help themselves can they
I didn't love sxf but I at least appreciated the daughter wasnt sexualized but then b***h comes along lusting after BAC
Last Man Standing
It also got cancelled by the network despite having the highest ratings at the time
Then got picked up elsewhere
But they were losing actors in between the hiatus so it wasn’t the same
This. And even Last Man Standing was supposed to be a reaction to the lack of shows with strong male characters and is why it got popular. It’s literally called Last Man Standing.
the answer is obviously the middle, starring the janitor from scrubs and the wife from everyone loves raymond, I would say that it's a pretty decent show, ran for 8seasons as well
>The man is painted as the provider, leader, and well respected by family and peesr
Logan Roy is force of nature, nobody dares to frick with him, and who does, is decimated
>the man is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his health
Logan Roy again. Truly based man
Women are less intelligent than men on average just like height and strength and ~~*television and studies*~~ have made people believe otherwise.
Seriously, maybe your father is a deadbeat or just irresponsible, but who here can honestly say that their mother is more intelligent than their father? Who can say that their mother is taller than their father? Probably around the same chances of occurring.
I hate Ron Swanson, not the character but because he was clearly created from a californian suburbanite's idea of masculinity. >Hurr Durr, I'm a man, I like steak and beards >I don't know what a smartphone is
Yet he still was 100% behind leslie's Mary Sue. The only parks and rec seasons I would watch are 1 and maybe 2 before all characters are just props in the Leslie Knope show. God I hate that Amy Poehler c**t so much.
>>Hurr Durr, I'm a man, I like steak and beards
lefty ruined facial hair, that's a fact.
Also if you claim to hate well done steak you are not a man and I assume you like someone else to cut it for you too.
Nice bait but you know exactly what I'm talking about. Ron Swanson is to masculinity what FTM's are to men. Just the most superficial aspects of what a boardroom of low t, single mother raised nepo babies can come up with. But because he has plot armor he can drink rubbing alcohol while making a canoe to dynamite fish so he can make a gourmet meal while not sleeping for 36 hours straight.
Again, he's supposed to be a libertarian and took a cushy dead end job in the goverment to "bring the system down from within" or some other dumb reason that was abandoned in season 2.
In the end he's just the strawman for conservatives so that the showriters can go: >See? Even Ron Swanson supports our ideas. That's what a principled conservative should be. Now go legalize gay marriage, weed and trannies because that's the american way >And always listen to what we say, because we know better. Your avatar in the show we made is agreeing with us.
Correct, but Swanson and Parks and rec still pisses me off just because of my buyer's remorse. I sat through season after season, seeing it go worse and worse and like a battered wife I said >"Well, it's not that bad. It had some X element"
Jesus, why couldn't they have pulled the plug when the main characters got married, had an afterparty in the office where everything happened and then rode off into the sunset?
I think that I fricking quit for a month when I saw that Chris Pratt became a millionaire, tv show, phillantropist. I don't hate it when good things happen to characters but what has he suffered to get it? Not being accepted into the Police Academy? He's functionally moronic in the show yet he managed to pull some Aubrey Plaza RBF pussy. That should have been his divine reward.
It's like My Name is Earl. In the explained ending (pre-cancellation) he was supposed to meet someone that had a list of their own and he suddenly realized that he would never finish the list but he created a chain of events that would lead to more good being done than bad. That I can get behind. But if the showrunners suddenly decided to have him die and become a saint recognized by the Pope? that would be too much.
So a moronic manbaby getting prime Puerto Riccan pussy, a billion dollars and his own tv show? Frick off with that gay shit.
And don't get me started on the god damn pajeet...
Speaking of Terry Crews, Brooklyn 99 fits this for his character. He's got a wife and two daughters, I think the wife is stay-at-home, and he's a beloved police sgt and his girls and subordinates think the world of him. I guess he gets away with it because he's not White.
Logan Roy doesn’t count because he prostituted around and traumatized the frick out of his kids.
Tony Soprano doesn’t count because he prostitutes around and does not care about his health
Breaking Bad doesn’t count because Walt is a sad sack at the beginning and also in a loveless marriage
>the man is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his wealth
At least for sitcoms, hasn't the entire format always been like the adam sandler movies? Where, she's better looking than him, he's the butt of all the jokes between the two, along with him having dumb friends and him whining about his wife all the time
Most culturally irrelevant show to ever get 9 seasons. I swear, it was one of those shows that always got just enough ratings to keep getting renewed and syndicated. It’s so bland and safe.
I can't name a show like that in the entire history of television
What would even be the point of that character besides a self-insert fantasy for losers?
What are the chances that @david_james_fox is married (with/without kids), is a provider, leader and is well respected by his family and peers, is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his health?
Considering he's b***hing about sitcoms on Twitter I'm willing to bet, yeah, a 'normal man' is purely a fantasy to him
>It's being shown on screen so it's promoted
Yeah don't let those kids play mortal kombat or doom, they'll grow up to become satan worshipping murderers.
>Intelligent
Ned's a moron. Maybe not as moronic as Bobby, but still. >House in order
His wife has been mindbroken for sixteen, seventeen years because of Jon Snow, and Jon himself resents him for his refusal to elaborate on his heritage. Telling both of them would have solved everything, but he was too afraid of Robert, his purported best friend. So he's a coward, too stupid to see how his (in)actions cause strife among his family, is constantly disrespected by his eldest daughter because he's largely ignorant of her, and is cucked into doing Robert "The Mad King" Baratheon's bidding. >Cares about his health
Maybe, there's nothing really for or against this, other than he's not a fat frick. One note is that he at one point mentions that he "learned to die along time ago" implying that he's not afraid, and has even been anticipating death. He says this rather ironically without a second thought for his health, or rather how his lack of health (death) would affect his family, a reality Varys of all people quickly reminds him of.
It's pretty apparent that when Cersei refers to him as nothing more than a soldier, that this is the most accurate description of his psyche. He doesn't care about his life or his family on any real emotional level, he's just doing his duty, and is prepared to die for it despite not really understanding why.
Which brings it all back full circle to Ned being moronic.
None of this is even slightly true, what the frick show did you watch?
Cat was literally praying that he knocks her up one last time before she's too old for it, Jon doesn't have any resentment at all (and the situation regarding his birth isn't Ned's fault at any rate)
>Robert "The Mad King" Baratheon
Oh, filthy T*rgaryen hands made this post never mind
>Cat was literally praying that he knocks her up one last time before she's too old for it
Never portrayed in the show. This is Wrong board, remember? And a thread specifically about television shows, not book lore. >Jon doesn't have any resentment at all
Episode 3, I believe, of Season 1. Among many people, he relates his disdain to Tyrion about all those who lied to him about the Night's Watch, which in the show, is predominantly Ned. He's also very defensive in the first season about his status as a bastard, and tells Sam how he refused to lose his virginity out of fear of impregnating and raising his own bastard, saying that "It's not a good life for a child." He also lies to Robb about how Cat treats him, implying he may not even blame Cat much at all, insinuating that the blame for her feelings are a result of Ned's ignorance. >the situation regarding his birth isn't Ned's fault at any rate
Yes, Ned was not at fault for Jon's existence, but his refusal to reveal Jon's heritage to either party was. All out of fear of his "best friend" who proved to be no better than The Mad King. >Oh, filthy T*rgaryen hands made this post never mind
Those were Ned's words ya goober. He compares Robert and his Small Council to Aerys II's reign when he resigns from the position of Hand.
>Intelligent
Ned's a moron. Maybe not as moronic as Bobby, but still. >House in order
His wife has been mindbroken for sixteen, seventeen years because of Jon Snow, and Jon himself resents him for his refusal to elaborate on his heritage. Telling both of them would have solved everything, but he was too afraid of Robert, his purported best friend. So he's a coward, too stupid to see how his (in)actions cause strife among his family, is constantly disrespected by his eldest daughter because he's largely ignorant of her, and is cucked into doing Robert "The Mad King" Baratheon's bidding. >Cares about his health
Maybe, there's nothing really for or against this, other than he's not a fat frick. One note is that he at one point mentions that he "learned to die along time ago" implying that he's not afraid, and has even been anticipating death. He says this rather ironically without a second thought for his health, or rather how his lack of health (death) would affect his family, a reality Varys of all people quickly reminds him of.
It's pretty apparent that when Cersei refers to him as nothing more than a soldier, that this is the most accurate description of his psyche. He doesn't care about his life or his family on any real emotional level, he's just doing his duty, and is prepared to die for it despite not really understanding why.
Which brings it all back full circle to Ned being moronic.
>Randyll Tarly
Isn't House Tarly extinct by the end of the series? So much for order. Also while he does mourn his father, it's reasonable to assume Sam does not really respect him, and vice versa. Other than that I don't remember if the show covers a lot of Randyll's relations with his peers. Dickon respects him, or at least his war efforts, that much is apparent. >Kevan Lannister
Kevan is based, and his character was done dirty, but his house branch was pretty fricked. Other than that it's hard to discern any other qualities, his role being as minor as it is.
It's not, you moron. The point is that a show where the MC has no issue is boring. Right wingers don't think in a way that actually allows creative storytelling.
Having to actually maintain that status quo. Trying to help others achieve the same goal. Having to deal with political or economic forces that's effects you even though you're effectively powerless to to solve it. Seriously, just try actually reading more stories than formulaic trash that uses trite broken home dynamics for dramatic effect.
>Having to actually maintain that status quo.
Wow, so a show about nothing happening with the intent of making sure nothing happens?
>Having to deal with political or economic forces that's effects you even though you're effectively powerless to to solve it
Like?
>Seriously, just try actually reading more stories than formulaic trash that uses trite broken home dynamics for dramatic effect.
I have. There are alternatives other than "Broken home" and "Nothing happens".
>so a show about nothing
What's the show about? >It's about nothing
no story? >no, forgot the story
you gotta have a story >who says you gotta have a story
>Wow, so a show about nothing happening with the intent of making sure nothing happens? >Like
To answer both. Imagine a show where the father works as a freelancer or a small business owner. He constantly adapts to new developments in his work, deal with competitors, the government changes administration and policy, new clients with different demands on his business.
His house is in order sure, but that doesn't mean he can just stop working or that his work isn't challenging or interesting from a dramatic point of view. Friends and family outside the household might have issues, sometimes those issues are caused by third parties he doesn't know and has to learn about over the course of the story to find a solution to the problem he or his aunt or whoever has. He might needs to help people out despite having a lot on his plate with his business but he somehow managed to keep everything floating despite the challenges because these people he is helping are part of his business or helps out with small family issues. The aunt might babysit regularly or his mechanic cousin fixes his car for free when it breaks down. His business opens up opportunities on a regular basis but they also mean large life style changes such as moving to a different town or city. He can turns some down but once or twice he doesn't. The show changes location and you can do variations on an older episode. Season 1 might have an episode where he deals with the local mayor or principle of his child's school. He solved that in one way but now in season 3 that he's moved to Newtownsville he has to solve the same problem again but he has to learn about the new rules of the town, the individual in it and how they all interact with each other and himself and whatever the problem is. Perhaps one season has an arc about dealing with a natural disaster that forces the entire town to pull together. He can run for mayor and wins, or perhaps loses, either cause new challenges.
The Yellowstone extended universe in general is pretty good.
Seth Bullock in Deadwood was a great example of a man trying (and failing) to be a good father without being an oafish buffoon.
But yeah, positive straight male role models in media are generally thin on the ground unless they’re nonwhite.
Dragon Ball Super, Goku has to be prodded to work but in the end he does provide.
Ok maybe not intelligent but he's not the sort of dumbass the image is alluding to.
You really only see this kind of buffoonery sanctioned in white sitcoms
Black dads (kek) always seem to be admirable patriarchs, and George Lopez in whatever La Raza oral’e holmes shit he’s currently doing and that Korean or whatever in the Off the Boat show seem like good, responsible, successful dads
the only thing i've gleaned from this thread is that the past decade of programming has been so dogshit that when you say 15 years ago people think the 2000s
More like everyone in this thread is in their 20s so we're old enough to start experience time rapidly increasing speed as we age but not old enough to be experienced with it so '15 years ago' feels wildly different to reality
15 years so 2009?
The only live action one who comes to mind is Dexter and he's a serial killer
Frank from F is for family but he's not respected
I can name several japanese examples Onions X Family is just the most trendy Vinland saga would be another
I guess that Mao Mao show titmouse made had the two gays raising an adopted kid
>It's not good if a father is competent and respected
As others have noted, there's all kinds of material you can do that doesn't rely on a broken home. Just look at all the nonwhite competent fathers posted itt
King of the Hill, but that was more than 15 years ago, the cosby show definitely wasn't the last one to do it though.
Idk if I'd call Hank "intelligent" but as another anon noted, in a comedy pretty much everyone will be an idiot, and Hank Hill was certainly no worse than the average citizen of Garlen, TX.
Hank was more intelligent than the people around him, including Peggy who was pretty stupid most of the time, he was also very competent and any kind of maintenance and repair work and was like the top salesman at work, he just got taken advantage of because he had different ethics. But yeah everyone in that show was pretty stupid.
What genres would this even work for? >Horror
No. The family wouldn't be dealing with a demonic entity if their house was in order >Comedy
No. Everyone's a bumbling idiot. >Romance
Why would a romance be about a married couple? Also there's no plot if the house is in order as their relationship would be fine. >Drama
House isn't in order. >Action
Family actions are rare. Usually it's a single person with a love interest. >Cartoons
Cartoons usually are bias towards Children so naturally the father wouldn't be respected. >Crime
Either the family is a part of the crime or one of the couples are dead.
You can make a show about the differences in work and private lives of a married couple who don't have a kid yet. The premise is that they're completely different people at work than they are at home. The two leads get to show their versatility as actors. There can be lots of supporting actors with cameos since they've both co-workers but also friends. You can play with multiple genres because they can have very different jobs like perhaps private investigator, doctor, lawyer, middle management, while their home life is structured like a traditional wholesome sitcom and it works because the entire point is that they have stressful work lives but love each other so much they can relax when they're not at work.
>The Cosby Show is the last show to do this
Now you know why they went back 4-5 DECADES to dig up something they could use as an excuse to take the show off the air? And even with the whole pill thing, none of the women ever claimed in court that they took anything unknowingly, ~~*they*~~ had to work overtime to paint the narrative that Bill Cosby was slipping pills into every woman's drink he met so they could nullify the Cosby Show's cultural legacy because Bill Cosby, while not perfect in his personal life, had enough decency to understand that just because you may live a hedonistic lifestyle in private doesn't mean you aren't responsible for the images and messages you present to the world, and specifically young people. Bill Cosby is based as hell and for that Hollywood had to tear him down.
When he started publicly shitting on the social and individual toxicity of ‘black culture’ after his son was murdered, they had to do something to take him down.
Black ‘culture’ is an industry that keeps certain non-blacks very very wealthy, you’ll find them owning record labels, fashion brands, media outlets, law firms, finance companies, shares in for-profit prison corporations, luxury alcohol brands etc etc.
This is the exact opposite of what OP is talking about. Malcolm in the Middle was explicitly about the dysfunction that had become the norm for modern households in the late 90s/early 2000s.
She was pregnant towards the end of the show, I don't think the kid was that old when it ended but that must be what he's supposed to look like as a toddler.
It's been a long ass time since I watched it, plus whenever there was a rerun it'd be of the first few seasons. I probably only saw the last season once.
I still think Lois deserves to be matricided by Malcolm for what she did to his life in the final episode.
and now our roles have reversed, as i cant even remember watching the final spoil it
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Malcolm was given a 6+ figure job offer straight out of highschool, Lois said no, she said he's working to pay himself through college so when he becomes the president he'll help little people like them. The last thing we see of him is as a janny in some school.
There's plenty of this on the Hallmark channel, but no one here watches that because pleasant, well-adjusted people with their lives in order, though good to be around in real life, don't lend themselves to particularly interesting stories.
The show wasn't really about him and his relationship though, it was about the criminal with a heart of gold and charm that could swoon any woman (he's gay irl btw).
John Wick. Yes, I know the wife is dead, but her death is the result of freak illness - John as a character fits all of these. His house is only thrown into disorder by the actions of a malicious outside force.
yes, its a show about the decline. thats the entire point. he had it in perfect order. everything going to shit isnt his fault at all, its his dumb partner in crime and his irrefutably moronic wife that fricked it all up. but still, the entire shows running is "marty keeps the fricking titanic afloat fricking years after it hits the iceberg"
Modern Family has it twice >Phil is the sole provider for a house of three plus a wife in a wealthy Californian suburb >It’s shown multiple times that he’s more clever / emotionally switched on that his wife and just humours her to make her feel better >even when his wife gets a job, it’s portrayed more as a nepotism hire that she doesn’t even need >Jay also bankrolls his wife’s expensive tastes in addition to a massive mansion and is portrayed as a decent man even if he doesn’t understand one of his sons being gay
>NAME A SHOW WHERE THE CHARACTER HAS NO FLAWS AND HAS A PERFECT LIFE AND DOESNT HAVE ANY OBSTACLES TO OVERCOME
gosh i can only imagine why so many right wingers are failed Hollywood screenwriters and actors
I was going to ask if you needed any help carrying that strawman, but it looks pretty weightless.
>FLAWS
But you assume having right wing beliefs is a “flaw” and thats how complex leftist writing gets.
No wonder hollywood is bleeding money.
>But you have to assume voting against your own economic interests is a “flaw”
Importing infinite scab labour is against my economic interests.
>assume voting against your own economic interests
List my economic interests. Now.
Massive lower and middle class tax hikes making cost of living unaffordable thus causing a class civil war where the rich are destroyed and devoured and marxism is installed for the next thousand years
Frick you, you NIMBY c**t. I bet you want to be the "vanguard of the proletariat" so you get a komissar job when allthe bloodletting is done. Newsflash: you will be put against the wall and shot and the same ~~*rich*~~ that you rile against will be the Inner Party.
Congratulations, you have played yourself.
That’s not my viewpoint, it’s the viewpoint of trump worshipers. Or would you care to explain to me how price gouging the lower and middle classes until they literally can’t afford to eat is good for the nation?
>flees from the thread
>t. hasn't seen a single episode of The Cosby Show
It's because they were black. It was part of the comedy. People laughed at the absurd notion that blacks formed a functional family.
>Full House
>Family Matters
>Growing Pains
If all these shows could do it 30+ years ago, why can't it be done now? Carl Winslow had flaws too, so did Danny Tanner. They still held respectable jobs and their children looked up to them. They're not morons or buttholes or worthless.
Because sitcoms are for gays
because that shit is fricking boring
You're giving boring.
>f all these shows could do it 30+ years ago, why can't it be done now?
Because those shows were fricking trash back then and people realized it today.
>Full House
>After the death of his wife Pam, sports anchor Danny Tanner recruits his brother-in-law (Pam's younger brother) Jesse, a rock musician, and Joey, his best friend since childhood who works as a stand-up comedian, to help raise his three young daughters in San Francisco—DJ, Stephanie, and Michelle. Over time, the three men, as well as the girls, bond and become closer to one another.
? Not married, three men, comedian, rock star, probably weren't portrayed as intelligent.
cry about it
Nice straw, man
>what are role models
Also you just admitted that leftists are failures at life.
Was Bill Cosby your role model?
Go outside and meet real people.
you're responding to bait
>being married, having a job and keep your house together is now considered right wing ideology
No wonder lefties are such a fricking mess
There are plenty of ways to be flawed within those boundaries you uncreative buffoon.
Like what?
You will never own a house.
You will never have a career.
You will never have a family.
You will never know how sweet success tastes.
You will always worry about the next bill, the next rent payment, the next toothache.
Because you’re a fricking loser.
You have no marketable skills.
You have nothing to offer society.
You are a consumer unit, nothing more.
And it’s your own fault. All of it. You have done nothing to secure success in your life.
You have not taken upon yourself the responsibility to ensure your own comfort in the future.
And when you look at the festering cesspool of depression, powerlessness, failure, loneliness, dysfunction and poverty that is your lot, you ask only one question: “How could society allow this to happen to me?”
Next time you lay down to sleep, know that the truth you try so hard to bury in your mind will not be silenced forever- your failures are by your own hands created.
That is all.
NTA but I wanna play
>You will never own a house.
Already do. 2,200 sq ft on .5 acres. 3.4% fixed. Id love to sell and move somewhere a bit bigger but interest rates are crazy. No rush. Hope they come down though.
>You will never have a career.
I do, but I dont find it very fulfilling. And its not particularly well paying. Basically Im in it for the schedule which is whatever I want. Can’t imagine being locked into a 9-5 while kiddos are young.
>You will never have a family.
3 kids. Theyre great man
>You will never know how sweet success tastes.
Career wise fair enough. I definitely had higher ambitions when i was younger. Feels like a lifetime ago. I consider myself successful in other areas though
>You will always worry about the next bill, the next rent payment, the next toothache.
I definitely stress about money. Were not paycheck to paycheck but a major expense would throw us for a loop.
>Because you’re a fricking loser.
Well thats just mean. So is most the rest for that matter. Have a great night anon
So you’re saying capitalism works?
Of course Anon, an accomplished captain of the industry and family man would be spending his days on a mongolian throat singing board.
Kino bait
let see
99% of female leads in the last 5 years
No one said anything about flaws.
I can't imagine being this disconnected from reality or even just from the idea of what a healthy functional life for a man is. The best argument against liberalism is to simply be quiet and let liberals explain themselves, it all falls apart to any sane person all on its own once you guys actually start talking.
Home Improvement
>b-b-but Tim's a moron!
He's a genius level engineer and knows all cars and tools inside out.
>the last 15 years
>Release September 17, 1991 –
May 25, 1999
25 years ago
He’s the main comic relief character so his competence changes based on the plot. He can be a bumbling caveman who even his kids see as beneath them, or a super genius who can make home AC from scratch that cools a little too well.
>that cools a little too well.
Wish I had that. Summer sucks.
I can't think of one sitcom where the dad cares about his health, going back to the honeymooners, the joke was a fat husband. The first healthy male sitcom character that comes to mind is the one guy from parks and rec.
Tim is not really shown as caring about his health or well being
Lucky Louie
>most famous joke from the show is about how he's beyond broke
that doesn't quite meet the criteria.
Plus the show came out 19 years ago
what the frick
I'm surprised too
god i wish that were me. imagine tugging one for her and she starts to do the bobby voice.
That would be a show about me. Life is amazing
Bluey.
Bluey?
>Bluey centres around Detective Sergeant 'Bluey' Hills, a name derived from the long-running ABC radio serial 'Blue Hills'. Bluey is a maverick cop who breaks every stereotype image. He drinks, smokes and eats to excess, and therefore is rather large, but it is his unusual investigative methods that set him apart. He has bent or broken every rule in the book at some stage, to the point where no-one else wants to work with him. But he gets results, and is therefore too valuable to lose, so the powers-that-be banish him to the basement of Russell Street Police Headquarters where he is set up in his own department, a stratagem that keeps him out of the way of other cops.
I will now watch your cartoon dog show.
There's also the 90's re-voiced version called Bargearse.
Truly the gift that keeps on giving.
That’s not Bluey you bullshit artist, that’s Bargearse
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There aren't shows like that because it would be dull. Nobody wants to watch a show about a guy who's got everything under control, that makes for a boring story.
Do the opposite of a sitcom today. Just a stupid bumbling wife who screws everything up and the husband has to fix it.
WAAAAAGGHHH RICKY
>ya hit her pretty hard there rick
People did exactly that for fricking years moron. The Cosby Show, Roseanne, Full House, fricking MASH? The most flawed of these was Dan Connor and he was still a big burly tough guy who loved his family and was reasonably intelligent.
yeah and all those shows are boring and gay. only boomers care enough to remember them.
>yeah and all those shows are boring and gay
Got 45 million viewers per episode.
Modern slop is hailed as a massive success if they get 6 million
You fricking moron you miss the point of the whole damn exercise.
No one wants to watch this hypothetical show. This is the same as when leftists ask for woman Ghostbusters then don't show up to watch.
Fargo Season 2
>Fargo Season 2
Ha!
>Maybe you heard of me—the Butcher of Luverne.
I get what he's saying, but there are hundreds of these. Just download tubi and look at sitcoms made before 1990.
>clumsily shilled tubi plug
Tubi is free, sillybilly.
i like PlutoTV better. but i dont like they keep asking to create an account now.
>download tubi and look at sitcoms made before 1990
I’m 45 so I’m definitely interested in your concept of time where “before 1990” and “last fifteen years” intersect.
>B-BUT WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE MALE THAT IS PORTRAYED AS A moron AND NOT THE WOMAN?
Because a woman acting moronic is the natural state of life and it wouldn't be funny
the last kingdom
Too Easy OP.
The only man that is respected in that picture is Jay.
Jay and also Mitchell, despite being gay. He's constantly painted as the main, the provider, the leader, and is well respected by his family and peers. He's also extremely intelligent, has his shit in order, and cares about his health.
Phil is basically all of that other than being respected by peers and his step dad, and he pigs out on junkfood from time to time.
At least up until like season 4, i dipped out after that point.
Phil is very good at his job and is absolutely respected. This is clearly displayed when he has to host an award show for them and he is very much the star of the nerdy realtors. His step dad doesn’t respect anyone hardly so that’s not really relevant.
Jay
>Grouchy old man, divorced, raising another man's son
Phil
>Borderline moronic but still has a cushy realtor job
Cam and Mitchell
>Closest to OPs description but there is no dominant male in the relationship. Also their kids(?) are adopted
moronic
Not really. He's portrayed as the male equivalent of a ditz for two primary reasons, the "lore" reason for which is explained in the pilot episode. The other being for comedic effect, but that happens to every character. Because the show is a comedy. When the chips are down Phil is unironically the hardest one in the family, and his family, including Jay, come to his defense out of respect for his logic, understanding, and approach both to parenting and general conflicts.
By the latter half of the series Jay and Phil's roles are effectively reversed, while still maintaining most of their primary character traits, again, for comedic effect.
>based anon actually watched the show he's talking about
>Grouchy old man, divorced, raising another man's son
These things are offset by him fricking pure sex incarnate
Sad that the straight fat guy plays a more convincing gay guy than the actual gay guy
>that one interview of both actors where the fat guy is acting really straight and the skinny actually gay one is being so gay he is making the fat one uncomfortable.
You could see it in the fat guys face lmao, like "bro we were acting, chill the frick out"
what's the fricking deal with the fat frick kid, like the other one became an adult and he's still the fricking same?
This
Its the only show within the last 15 years that somewhat meets the OPs picture's requirements. 3 individual families each making up a larger one. Each family is headed by a married couple, with children. The men are seen as providers and well respected. True they're often the butt of jokes, but that's done to everyone in the show because its a comedy. All the men in the show have their house in order, sure they deal with comedic problems that arise but again that's because the show demands it. But all 3 families are thriving. And the greater family as a whole is happy
The trust fund band strikes again with pic rel and American Dad
Was That 70s Show within the last 15 years?
Red was a good provider, well respected for being so, wise and cared about his kid.
It doesnt matter, it was set in the 70s!
No, it wasn't. It went off the air 18 years ago.
>goes to call you a liar
>googles the show ending date
>ha, see, 2006! that's only..
>does the math
oh frick
Where does the time go?
Red was a good father figure
There's no market for wholesome shows. Maybe you didn't notice but Euphoria is a big hit despite it being the most degenerate, depressing thing possible. Teens love that shit
>no market for wholesome shows.
Hallmark Channel's bread and butter is wholesome stuff for women that has no other merit than to be wholesome. Everything being degenerate and violent has been a crutch for poor writing for a while now.
I think American Dad is the closest you'll get.
Funded yet again
Spy X Family
Jappas just can't help themselves can they
I didn't love sxf but I at least appreciated the daughter wasnt sexualized but then b***h comes along lusting after BAC
You have a gutter mind.
True....but not sure japanese product would count
Modern family.
Dark. Ironically, it's G*rman.
Modern Family
The most recent show I can think of is Seventh Heaven, but that ended in 2007.
american dad
Dadders, dare we tell him that AD is over 15 years old?
Don't need a show. I'm living it.
Invincible
Hawkeye
Last Man Standing
It also got cancelled by the network despite having the highest ratings at the time
Then got picked up elsewhere
But they were losing actors in between the hiatus so it wasn’t the same
Did they recast the youngest daughter with the Asian?
Recast the middle daughter, Youngest went to the Airforce and they got a Chinese exchange student.
This. And even Last Man Standing was supposed to be a reaction to the lack of shows with strong male characters and is why it got popular. It’s literally called Last Man Standing.
I'm not 40, I don't watch TV
the answer is obviously the middle, starring the janitor from scrubs and the wife from everyone loves raymond, I would say that it's a pretty decent show, ran for 8seasons as well
Modern Family
Blackish
.....Wandavision
Over 15 but after cosby had a few like
SUCCESSION
>married couple
Logan and Marcia
>The man is painted as the provider, leader, and well respected by family and peesr
Logan Roy is force of nature, nobody dares to frick with him, and who does, is decimated
>the man is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his health
Logan Roy again. Truly based man
Women are less intelligent than men on average just like height and strength and ~~*television and studies*~~ have made people believe otherwise.
Seriously, maybe your father is a deadbeat or just irresponsible, but who here can honestly say that their mother is more intelligent than their father? Who can say that their mother is taller than their father? Probably around the same chances of occurring.
King of Queens
Marshall and the redhead from Buffy in How I Met Your Mother. The girl was a c**t, but not particularly to him. And the guy later becomes a lawyer.
Rules of engagement ended 10 years ago.
Pretty sure it counts for the older couple
>Parks and Recreation turns fifteen in two months
Ron is a multiple divorcee. Gary is not respected whatsoever despite his family. Who are you talking about?
I'm talking about Ron. Granted, he's not in total control during S1-4, but he does check all the marks by the end of the Warrior Princess arc.
I hate Ron Swanson, not the character but because he was clearly created from a californian suburbanite's idea of masculinity.
>Hurr Durr, I'm a man, I like steak and beards
>I don't know what a smartphone is
Yet he still was 100% behind leslie's Mary Sue. The only parks and rec seasons I would watch are 1 and maybe 2 before all characters are just props in the Leslie Knope show. God I hate that Amy Poehler c**t so much.
>>Hurr Durr, I'm a man, I like steak and beards
lefty ruined facial hair, that's a fact.
Also if you claim to hate well done steak you are not a man and I assume you like someone else to cut it for you too.
Nice bait but you know exactly what I'm talking about. Ron Swanson is to masculinity what FTM's are to men. Just the most superficial aspects of what a boardroom of low t, single mother raised nepo babies can come up with. But because he has plot armor he can drink rubbing alcohol while making a canoe to dynamite fish so he can make a gourmet meal while not sleeping for 36 hours straight.
Again, he's supposed to be a libertarian and took a cushy dead end job in the goverment to "bring the system down from within" or some other dumb reason that was abandoned in season 2.
In the end he's just the strawman for conservatives so that the showriters can go:
>See? Even Ron Swanson supports our ideas. That's what a principled conservative should be. Now go legalize gay marriage, weed and trannies because that's the american way
>And always listen to what we say, because we know better. Your avatar in the show we made is agreeing with us.
I wasn't disagreeing with you, you moronic homosexual.
Correct, but Swanson and Parks and rec still pisses me off just because of my buyer's remorse. I sat through season after season, seeing it go worse and worse and like a battered wife I said
>"Well, it's not that bad. It had some X element"
Jesus, why couldn't they have pulled the plug when the main characters got married, had an afterparty in the office where everything happened and then rode off into the sunset?
I think that I fricking quit for a month when I saw that Chris Pratt became a millionaire, tv show, phillantropist. I don't hate it when good things happen to characters but what has he suffered to get it? Not being accepted into the Police Academy? He's functionally moronic in the show yet he managed to pull some Aubrey Plaza RBF pussy. That should have been his divine reward.
It's like My Name is Earl. In the explained ending (pre-cancellation) he was supposed to meet someone that had a list of their own and he suddenly realized that he would never finish the list but he created a chain of events that would lead to more good being done than bad. That I can get behind. But if the showrunners suddenly decided to have him die and become a saint recognized by the Pope? that would be too much.
So a moronic manbaby getting prime Puerto Riccan pussy, a billion dollars and his own tv show? Frick off with that gay shit.
And don't get me started on the god damn pajeet...
why would you want to watch a show about a perfect family with no flaws? that’s fricking boring
Ended in 2009.
Literally Black-ish
that looks depressing
The 70s were kinda depressing
Just like the 2020s
He gets to beat the shit out of his abusive dad when he tries to harm his grandson.
If we're including cartoons, then bizarrely, Legend of Korra of all shows also qualifies thanks to Tenzin.
House isn't in order.
the show with the toolman and his 3 daughters
I don’t watch television
Everybody Hates Chris. Terry Crews' biggest "flaw" is being frugal which makes sense when he's working two jobs in working class NYC
Hmm.
Anons?
Speaking of Terry Crews, Brooklyn 99 fits this for his character. He's got a wife and two daughters, I think the wife is stay-at-home, and he's a beloved police sgt and his girls and subordinates think the world of him. I guess he gets away with it because he's not White.
Racist chud right-wing sexist pol browsing Elonworshipping Trumpbros....
Our bad faith thread failed....
maybe go offline for a bit. that post was thoughtful and yours is deranged.
russia lost
Doesn't that just prove the chuds right?
Coco Melon
Peppa Pig
it wouldnt be funny or interesting
American Dad
Beyond Paradise
Succession completely unironically. It checks all the boxes in OP's post.
Logan Roy doesn’t count because he prostituted around and traumatized the frick out of his kids.
Tony Soprano doesn’t count because he prostitutes around and does not care about his health
Breaking Bad doesn’t count because Walt is a sad sack at the beginning and also in a loveless marriage
>give me a show that has these aspects
>well... n-not those ones!
Shut up you fricking gay
Succession
Breaking bad
Sopranos
>the man is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his wealth
At least for sitcoms, hasn't the entire format always been like the adam sandler movies? Where, she's better looking than him, he's the butt of all the jokes between the two, along with him having dumb friends and him whining about his wife all the time
Fargo Lou Solverson
To a lesser extent Gus (not outright incompetent, just afraid, but brave enough to get over it)
Battlestar galatica, succession, the wire, the sopranos, 30 rock, breaking bad,
>the wire, the sopranos
>has house in order
>breaking bad
>respected by peers and family
right
The Middle (2009-2018)
Most culturally irrelevant show to ever get 9 seasons. I swear, it was one of those shows that always got just enough ratings to keep getting renewed and syndicated. It’s so bland and safe.
It also got a movie with the dorky daughter
>the father is well respected
>he's a janny
Pick one.
he works at a quarry
Once a janny always a janny.
he wasn't real, anon
Bluey
I can't name a show like that in the entire history of television
What would even be the point of that character besides a self-insert fantasy for losers?
being a normal man is a "self-insert fantasy for losers"?
What are the chances that @david_james_fox is married (with/without kids), is a provider, leader and is well respected by his family and peers, is intelligent, has his house in order and cares about his health?
Considering he's b***hing about sitcoms on Twitter I'm willing to bet, yeah, a 'normal man' is purely a fantasy to him
>you must be perfect to complain about broken homes being promoted
>It's being shown on screen so it's promoted
Yeah don't let those kids play mortal kombat or doom, they'll grow up to become satan worshipping murderers.
>>It's being shown on screen so it's promoted
Yep. That's how human psychology works.
People pay for that you know.
Not every show needs to be about broken homes. The conflicts can come from elsewhere.
OP didn't say it has to be the main or only character. Just any character in the show at all.
Unironically, Game of Thrones
I was going to post this, but then I thought about it and I couldn't come up with a house/family that fit the bill.
Ned
>Intelligent
Ned's a moron. Maybe not as moronic as Bobby, but still.
>House in order
His wife has been mindbroken for sixteen, seventeen years because of Jon Snow, and Jon himself resents him for his refusal to elaborate on his heritage. Telling both of them would have solved everything, but he was too afraid of Robert, his purported best friend. So he's a coward, too stupid to see how his (in)actions cause strife among his family, is constantly disrespected by his eldest daughter because he's largely ignorant of her, and is cucked into doing Robert "The Mad King" Baratheon's bidding.
>Cares about his health
Maybe, there's nothing really for or against this, other than he's not a fat frick. One note is that he at one point mentions that he "learned to die along time ago" implying that he's not afraid, and has even been anticipating death. He says this rather ironically without a second thought for his health, or rather how his lack of health (death) would affect his family, a reality Varys of all people quickly reminds him of.
It's pretty apparent that when Cersei refers to him as nothing more than a soldier, that this is the most accurate description of his psyche. He doesn't care about his life or his family on any real emotional level, he's just doing his duty, and is prepared to die for it despite not really understanding why.
Which brings it all back full circle to Ned being moronic.
None of this is even slightly true, what the frick show did you watch?
Cat was literally praying that he knocks her up one last time before she's too old for it, Jon doesn't have any resentment at all (and the situation regarding his birth isn't Ned's fault at any rate)
>Robert "The Mad King" Baratheon
Oh, filthy T*rgaryen hands made this post never mind
>Cat was literally praying that he knocks her up one last time before she's too old for it
Never portrayed in the show. This is Wrong board, remember? And a thread specifically about television shows, not book lore.
>Jon doesn't have any resentment at all
Episode 3, I believe, of Season 1. Among many people, he relates his disdain to Tyrion about all those who lied to him about the Night's Watch, which in the show, is predominantly Ned. He's also very defensive in the first season about his status as a bastard, and tells Sam how he refused to lose his virginity out of fear of impregnating and raising his own bastard, saying that "It's not a good life for a child." He also lies to Robb about how Cat treats him, implying he may not even blame Cat much at all, insinuating that the blame for her feelings are a result of Ned's ignorance.
>the situation regarding his birth isn't Ned's fault at any rate
Yes, Ned was not at fault for Jon's existence, but his refusal to reveal Jon's heritage to either party was. All out of fear of his "best friend" who proved to be no better than The Mad King.
>Oh, filthy T*rgaryen hands made this post never mind
Those were Ned's words ya goober. He compares Robert and his Small Council to Aerys II's reign when he resigns from the position of Hand.
Ned Stark, Randyll Tarly, Kevan Lannister
>Ned Stark
See
>Randyll Tarly
Isn't House Tarly extinct by the end of the series? So much for order. Also while he does mourn his father, it's reasonable to assume Sam does not really respect him, and vice versa. Other than that I don't remember if the show covers a lot of Randyll's relations with his peers. Dickon respects him, or at least his war efforts, that much is apparent.
>Kevan Lannister
Kevan is based, and his character was done dirty, but his house branch was pretty fricked. Other than that it's hard to discern any other qualities, his role being as minor as it is.
First episode has him stone a guy for adultery.
Looking at that poster made me grow a fedora.
Last man standing
It's not, you moron. The point is that a show where the MC has no issue is boring. Right wingers don't think in a way that actually allows creative storytelling.
There's more issues in life than being single, stupid and hated.
Like? Ignoring supernatural shit, how can a story about somebodies who house is in order be interesting?
Having to actually maintain that status quo. Trying to help others achieve the same goal. Having to deal with political or economic forces that's effects you even though you're effectively powerless to to solve it. Seriously, just try actually reading more stories than formulaic trash that uses trite broken home dynamics for dramatic effect.
>Having to actually maintain that status quo.
Wow, so a show about nothing happening with the intent of making sure nothing happens?
>Having to deal with political or economic forces that's effects you even though you're effectively powerless to to solve it
Like?
>Seriously, just try actually reading more stories than formulaic trash that uses trite broken home dynamics for dramatic effect.
I have. There are alternatives other than "Broken home" and "Nothing happens".
>so a show about nothing
What's the show about?
>It's about nothing
no story?
>no, forgot the story
you gotta have a story
>who says you gotta have a story
>Wow, so a show about nothing happening with the intent of making sure nothing happens?
>Like
To answer both. Imagine a show where the father works as a freelancer or a small business owner. He constantly adapts to new developments in his work, deal with competitors, the government changes administration and policy, new clients with different demands on his business.
His house is in order sure, but that doesn't mean he can just stop working or that his work isn't challenging or interesting from a dramatic point of view. Friends and family outside the household might have issues, sometimes those issues are caused by third parties he doesn't know and has to learn about over the course of the story to find a solution to the problem he or his aunt or whoever has. He might needs to help people out despite having a lot on his plate with his business but he somehow managed to keep everything floating despite the challenges because these people he is helping are part of his business or helps out with small family issues. The aunt might babysit regularly or his mechanic cousin fixes his car for free when it breaks down. His business opens up opportunities on a regular basis but they also mean large life style changes such as moving to a different town or city. He can turns some down but once or twice he doesn't. The show changes location and you can do variations on an older episode. Season 1 might have an episode where he deals with the local mayor or principle of his child's school. He solved that in one way but now in season 3 that he's moved to Newtownsville he has to solve the same problem again but he has to learn about the new rules of the town, the individual in it and how they all interact with each other and himself and whatever the problem is. Perhaps one season has an arc about dealing with a natural disaster that forces the entire town to pull together. He can run for mayor and wins, or perhaps loses, either cause new challenges.
The Americans.
Do they have to be married? Mandalorian and TLoU are basically about how to be a single dad and wildly popular.
King of the Hill
The Loud House. The dad starts a successful catering business partway through season 2 that he keeps.
Twin Peaks
Young Sheldon
This show sucks, lousy PKD adaptation, but hearty kek
really have to watch those first two seasons, just for the ~~*woke*~~ self-own
Watch it for Smith, Tagomi-san and Inspector Kino. Skip the Juliana scenes.
>One of these days Alice, to the fricking moon…
The patriarch Dutton from 1883 is all those things.
If you think about it, Don from Mad Men was all those things at different points of the show.
The Yellowstone extended universe in general is pretty good.
Seth Bullock in Deadwood was a great example of a man trying (and failing) to be a good father without being an oafish buffoon.
But yeah, positive straight male role models in media are generally thin on the ground unless they’re nonwhite.
Outer Range
Dragon Ball Super, Goku has to be prodded to work but in the end he does provide.
Ok maybe not intelligent but he's not the sort of dumbass the image is alluding to.
>Twitter Thread
I saw this post this morning because someone quote tweeted it with John Smith from The Man in the High Castle.
Smallville
Man, people are really bad at remembering that time passes.
That's what happens in an era devoid of memorable cultural landmarks.
What part about 15 years do you frickers not understand that shit is ancient
>house in order
months behind in bills
>cares about his health
constantly in the hospital
You really only see this kind of buffoonery sanctioned in white sitcoms
Black dads (kek) always seem to be admirable patriarchs, and George Lopez in whatever La Raza oral’e holmes shit he’s currently doing and that Korean or whatever in the Off the Boat show seem like good, responsible, successful dads
Fresh prince did this
>cares about his health
RIP MY homie UNCLE PHIL HE LOVED THEM PILLOWY MOUNDS OF MASHED POTATOES TOO MUCH
Do you guys not know how to count? How long ago do you think Fresh Prince was on the air?
Bout tree fiddy wasn’t it?
"THE COSBY SHOW IS THE LAST SHOW THAT DID THIS" right in the OP illiterate gay
everybody hates chris
Blue Bloods.
Good Luck Charlie
>muh heckin television role models
maybe stop believing tv is real life, dumb boomer
the only thing i've gleaned from this thread is that the past decade of programming has been so dogshit that when you say 15 years ago people think the 2000s
More like everyone in this thread is in their 20s so we're old enough to start experience time rapidly increasing speed as we age but not old enough to be experienced with it so '15 years ago' feels wildly different to reality
15 years so 2009?
The only live action one who comes to mind is Dexter and he's a serial killer
Frank from F is for family but he's not respected
I can name several japanese examples Onions X Family is just the most trendy Vinland saga would be another
I guess that Mao Mao show titmouse made had the two gays raising an adopted kid
i am sure zoomers being capeshitters had nothing to do with it
Cliff tried to eat junk food all the time and Claire chided him for it constantly
Bel-Air. Now sit down Chud.
Now these are some zesty Black folks.
OP and his Twitterposter just don't watch black sitcoms
Is there even any movie like this?
There's like a million hallmarks. OP just watches moronic action flicks and drug shows all day, but he's going to blame society anyways.
Life in Pieces
This doesn't make for good television.
It's not representative of modern families.
>It's not good if a father is competent and respected
As others have noted, there's all kinds of material you can do that doesn't rely on a broken home. Just look at all the nonwhite competent fathers posted itt
Idk if I'd call Hank "intelligent" but as another anon noted, in a comedy pretty much everyone will be an idiot, and Hank Hill was certainly no worse than the average citizen of Garlen, TX.
Hank was more intelligent than the people around him, including Peggy who was pretty stupid most of the time, he was also very competent and any kind of maintenance and repair work and was like the top salesman at work, he just got taken advantage of because he had different ethics. But yeah everyone in that show was pretty stupid.
The Neighborhood has a israeli and black male lead who are the above.
Modern Family? they constantly show the gays as incompetent fathers that treated their adoptive baby as a toy
What genres would this even work for?
>Horror
No. The family wouldn't be dealing with a demonic entity if their house was in order
>Comedy
No. Everyone's a bumbling idiot.
>Romance
Why would a romance be about a married couple? Also there's no plot if the house is in order as their relationship would be fine.
>Drama
House isn't in order.
>Action
Family actions are rare. Usually it's a single person with a love interest.
>Cartoons
Cartoons usually are bias towards Children so naturally the father wouldn't be respected.
>Crime
Either the family is a part of the crime or one of the couples are dead.
They've romanticised the dogshit 50s sitcom as the pinnacle of man's creative achievement simply because they didn't have black people in
>they didn't have black people in
That's better than any modern show can achieve.
You can make a show about the differences in work and private lives of a married couple who don't have a kid yet. The premise is that they're completely different people at work than they are at home. The two leads get to show their versatility as actors. There can be lots of supporting actors with cameos since they've both co-workers but also friends. You can play with multiple genres because they can have very different jobs like perhaps private investigator, doctor, lawyer, middle management, while their home life is structured like a traditional wholesome sitcom and it works because the entire point is that they have stressful work lives but love each other so much they can relax when they're not at work.
Mosquito Coast
King of the Hill, but that was more than 15 years ago, the cosby show definitely wasn't the last one to do it though.
Gomez Adams seems to be quite successful and is loved by his family.
The Sopranos
Breaking Bad
>respected by the family
>has his house in order and cares about his health
neither shows fall into this category.
i hate to say it but Stan in American Dad financially supports his entire family, and Jeff, and Roger.
and sometimes hes presented as pretty intelligent.
pretty unreal that this cant be answered
probably the same reason all Star Wars are female lead now.... its just how it is lmao.
>inb4 Solo
How I Met Your Mother had Marshall
There has never been a good marraige in the history of mankind.
>The Cosby Show is the last show to do this
Now you know why they went back 4-5 DECADES to dig up something they could use as an excuse to take the show off the air? And even with the whole pill thing, none of the women ever claimed in court that they took anything unknowingly, ~~*they*~~ had to work overtime to paint the narrative that Bill Cosby was slipping pills into every woman's drink he met so they could nullify the Cosby Show's cultural legacy because Bill Cosby, while not perfect in his personal life, had enough decency to understand that just because you may live a hedonistic lifestyle in private doesn't mean you aren't responsible for the images and messages you present to the world, and specifically young people. Bill Cosby is based as hell and for that Hollywood had to tear him down.
When he started publicly shitting on the social and individual toxicity of ‘black culture’ after his son was murdered, they had to do something to take him down.
Black ‘culture’ is an industry that keeps certain non-blacks very very wealthy, you’ll find them owning record labels, fashion brands, media outlets, law firms, finance companies, shares in for-profit prison corporations, luxury alcohol brands etc etc.
>FNL was nearly 20 years ago
AHHHH WHAT THE FRICK
>when he gets his dream job coaching college ball but his teenage bawd daughter refuses to move and he just accepts that like a good little cuck
nah
Today I will remind them.
Lois was the man of the house.
This is the exact opposite of what OP is talking about. Malcolm in the Middle was explicitly about the dysfunction that had become the norm for modern households in the late 90s/early 2000s.
it wasnt perfect but it worked. Hank was a loving father to those boys. and he dearly loved his wife.
>Hank
you mean Isaac Shrader?
He was stockholm syndromed by her.
Who the frick is that goofy looking kid Lois has by the dick?
>Lois
thats Francis' hand. Theres a reason he was kicked out and sent to military school
She was pregnant towards the end of the show, I don't think the kid was that old when it ended but that must be what he's supposed to look like as a toddler.
you mustve stopped watching it. the baby (jamie) is born and does indeed grow to that size in the show.
It's been a long ass time since I watched it, plus whenever there was a rerun it'd be of the first few seasons. I probably only saw the last season once.
I still think Lois deserves to be matricided by Malcolm for what she did to his life in the final episode.
and now our roles have reversed, as i cant even remember watching the final spoil it
Malcolm was given a 6+ figure job offer straight out of highschool, Lois said no, she said he's working to pay himself through college so when he becomes the president he'll help little people like them. The last thing we see of him is as a janny in some school.
That one Superman show on the CW
There's plenty of this on the Hallmark channel, but no one here watches that because pleasant, well-adjusted people with their lives in order, though good to be around in real life, don't lend themselves to particularly interesting stories.
White Collar.
Next question?
The show wasn't really about him and his relationship though, it was about the criminal with a heart of gold and charm that could swoon any woman (he's gay irl btw).
John Wick. Yes, I know the wife is dead, but her death is the result of freak illness - John as a character fits all of these. His house is only thrown into disorder by the actions of a malicious outside force.
Little House on the Prairie
Man with a plan
Young Sheldon
ozark
do you fricks even watch anything
the entire show is about how his house is increasingly out of order
yes, its a show about the decline. thats the entire point. he had it in perfect order. everything going to shit isnt his fault at all, its his dumb partner in crime and his irrefutably moronic wife that fricked it all up. but still, the entire shows running is "marty keeps the fricking titanic afloat fricking years after it hits the iceberg"
>letting him off the hook
it's like you didn't even watch the show.
off the hook of what. did ops twitter shitpost imply it had to be like this every single second of the show?
Obviously
oh so your just stupid okay l8s
You could argue the mom was the bigger provider but it ticks the rest of the boxes.
Modern Family has it twice
>Phil is the sole provider for a house of three plus a wife in a wealthy Californian suburb
>It’s shown multiple times that he’s more clever / emotionally switched on that his wife and just humours her to make her feel better
>even when his wife gets a job, it’s portrayed more as a nepotism hire that she doesn’t even need
>Jay also bankrolls his wife’s expensive tastes in addition to a massive mansion and is portrayed as a decent man even if he doesn’t understand one of his sons being gay
Friday Night Lights. Granted Julie is a bit of a prostitute so not sure if he has his house in order
bobs burgers
breaking bad
Modern Family
Ted Lasso with the character Higgins.
another one? ffs we had decades of that you fricking idiots
TV family sitcoms have been societal conditioning since The Honeymooners.
>muh cosbys
Blackphiliac homosexual
Why is it cringe and woke when women complain about strong representation but based and redpilled when men do it?
Curb Your Enthusiasm
>tfw 6/10 average looking 5'10 chud
>Show a little hint of responsibility in work
>Get 2 Stacy coworkers attracted to me for having "dad features".
What did they mean by this?
Same thing happened to me exept im more attractive but extermely autistic
Name a flick from the past few years in which, among a diversity cast, the white man isnt playing a bad guy
I love Sarah Gadon
Everyone loves Sarah Gadon.
Sarah Gadon is the most beloved actress.