ITT we discuss a universe where almost every superhero existed on one timeline?
From Watchmen, to DC and Marvel, to the Incredibles, Tick, Kamen Rider and Worm
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The craziest Earth
ITT we discuss a universe where almost every superhero existed on one timeline?
From Watchmen, to DC and Marvel, to the Incredibles, Tick, Kamen Rider and Worm
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How does the Justice League handle the Viltrumite invasion?
Well?
Easily in a universe where Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate can frick their shit up six ways to Sunday.
The Viltrumites are nothing compared to Scion’s invasion
I'm sure it sounded fun in your head OP but he truth is Marvel and DC are already way overpopulated with superhumans so combining them and then adding more shit on top would just make things even more of a clusterfrick and would also make any kind of stakes impossible without rendering 95% of your characters irrelevant for the story
>Marvel and DC are already way overpopulated with superhumans so combining them would make clusterfrick
It would be the perfect setup for that Twilight of the Superheroes story Alan Moore proposed.
Maybe a cross between Twilight of the Superheroes and Top 10 where they have to build a city to house all the superheroes and supervillains
>Kamen Rider
Man I would kill to see tokusatsu and superhero crossovers.
I remember seeing a great pic of Captain America meeting Kamen Rider once
I like that Captain America is indirectly possible for the lips on the Tokusatsu heroes, specifically Sentai and Power Rangers.
I like that Spider-Man is responsible for the mechs
Even thoug I hate Power Rangers now and prefer it dead, I still wish Disney never sold them and instead intergrate them into Marvel, even though Marvel also has its own share of suckiness.
When would all these take place?
Yes
Does the Punisher kill the Joker?
Which one?
Remember my brother and I buying a reprint of this -that included the Batman Vs. The Hulk on the flip side- in the mid 90's.
It was so trash.
>That time Spider-Man mogged the shit out of Rorschach by webbing him up in a men's bathroom
>that time Kick-Ass saved Wonder Woman and ALMOST used the golden lasso on her
>that time Tintin met Spawn
>that animated movie about the Justice League and Avengers having to fight infinity gauntlet Joker
>when Batman fought the Boys to stop them from killing Homelander
>Nite Owl and Ozymandias attended the Parrs wedding
>Vought is partially responsible for the turtle mutagen
>that time Captain America beat the absolute stuffing out of Kaiser and his Empire 88 minions
>that time Deadpool teamed up with the TF2 mercs to defend Mr. Stillwell from Task Force X
>that time Starro took over Ultraman but was flight off through sheer heroic will
>Magneto showing Kaiser why he's the Master of Magnetism.
>Magneto recruiting 90% of all case 53s and deprogrammed Shocker victims to the Brotherhood
Isn't that basically the Savage Dragon universe?
Alternatively, My Hero Academia.
I think OP means it more as a single timeline like where it slowly goes from Watchman, to Incredibles, to x men to modern capes to All Star Superman abd 2099 to MHA to Legion of Superheroes followed by the 41st millennium and Kang’s time
1940s
>Minutemen parts of Watchmen
>JSA
>Vought-American and Dr Shocc create The Avenging Squad (from The Boys) Jesus League of America (from Marshal Law)
>Minutemen, Avenging Squad, Jesus League's reputation help create resentment towards superheroes which leads to the JSA getting called for the hearing and the events of the prologue in Incredibles
Would Vought make it to modernity? I feel like they'd be hijacked by genuine supervillains and/or various shadow government projects as soon as people realized they were on to something.
At the very least, bereft of a complete monopoly on superheroes and the existence of threats that only superhumans can solve, they'd need to stop coasting on novelty and instill discipline into their capes almost immediately.
Since worm and Watchmen are factors here, I’d imagine that Vought probably gets taken over by Ozymandias and then Cauldron helps them along, using their Supes as basically living propaganda pieces for recruiting superhumans into the fight against the coming threats of Scion, the Viltrumites, and Darkseid
The interesting thing about the Entities is that unlike in Worm, appeasement is a possible outcome. If you can provide a less destructive exit for the shards that costs the Entities less energy then they'd probably go for it. If you get them to see all the weirdness this Earth has to study and say that their original timetable is too short to learn it all, they might reconsider. Or rather, the Shard Network might, but Scion is infected with despair and humanity and is probably irrevocably damaged. And in a big crossover setting, there might be a lot of people besides Jack Slash who can weaponize him.
...on the upside, since I'm pretty sure Eidolon would be able to see a lot of things tougher than him, he might not accidentally activate the Endbringers?
Given how time travel is a thing in this universe, as are the infinity stones, it’s possible that the entities might stay on Earth indefinitely and even grant their shard’s permission to leave the atmosphere and go on space missions simply because the existence of the Legion of Superheroes shows that Earth will act as a nexus of important data for millennia to come. Allowing shards to leave with their hosts via mechanisms like GL rings in order to go on research expeditions
Only problem is that the shard network might send out a signal requesting more entities arrive to study the crossover setting, which might cause Earth to become infested with shards
I think Entities are far too asocial for that, though an interesting wrinkle could be what happens when one of the countless hostile civilizations invading Earth are themselves infested by an entity.
Ooh, that could be very fun. I think the most likely candidates for infestation are probably either the Skrulls due to their super skrull fixation
They might even have ships specifically designed to house shards for the invasion force
The Viltrumites strike me as hating competition, so they’d likely have a means of harming some shards. Ah entity trapped in the Flaxan universe would be the most interesting though. Stuck in a dimension that rapidly approaching the heat death
>Watchmen and Marvel
>Jonh has to listen to Scott rambling about mutties, on Mars
The thing that always gets me is how you're planning to handle time? Because a lot of the indie cape settings are more attuned to an era and have characters age etc, while Marvel and DC are a lot more free floating.
The main thing is that if Superman and Spider-Man debut in "the recent past" that means that they'd be completely eclipsed by their own derivatives, and the idea of Superman being seen as a ripoff of Omni-Man rubs me the wrong way.
Maybe we can have Superman appear in his original time only for him and Lois to get flung into the future by the Ultra Humanite
That's a decent way of doing it, I was more just going to say frick it and have him be around the whole time and both Lois and Lex have either found ways to cheat death, or actually have them pass away.
Maybe, though the reason why I suggested it was mostly because it explains why there are so many Superman expies in the setting as well as setting him up as a being from a kinder time. Here’s how I see it.
>Superman arrives in his average time, goes on adventures, loves Lois and befriends Captain America
>Superman and Lois get sucked into a time portal
>Captain America freezes
>Lex becomes immortal out of sheer spite knowing he will return.
>the U.S. scrambles to replace their two most prominent heroes, leading to the creation of many of the Superman copies and inspiring Omni Man to pose as the “one true successor”
>Superman returns in the late 90s/early 2000s
Could work, though I feel like that gets a bit derivative of Captain America.
How about instead of just "then" to "now" Clark and Lois emerge periodically throughout the past century, skipping across it like a stone, emerging whenever a new crisis looms and a new age of heroes needs guidance only to disappear once more after they're no longer needed.
And one of the underlying concerns about the present is that Superman has never stayed in the present this long which means that the world is still in peril.
That could be a good point to make. And a fun bit of extra peril once Superman finally settled down with Lois to have a family which would be terrifying to most since how long will the peril last if he has time to have kids
Also how do you think the Plutonian’s rampage and the death of Superman arc may play together.
I think Irredeemable is one of the problems
pointed out. Plutonian wouldn't be placed on a pedestal and feared above all others so the underlying cause for his breakdown could either never arrive or he has peers who could help him. And if he does go in a rampage it probably wouldn't last as long. If nothing else, there's probably less destructive ways to set his parents up on him.
Parents who themselves kind of feel like a perfected form of the Entities after having achieved mastery over physical laws.
That’s a really interesting thought, and it aligns well with the two godlike beings stated desire to collect knowledge
I think the Plutonian would probably still rampage here. It would just be cause if a different trigger this time. Perhaps losing something important or a desire to be better
Would Billy Butcher join the Slaughterhouse Nine?
He definitely wouldn't join, but he might try to take it over and completely rebrand it, but he's kind of a big fish in a small pond so I don't know how far he'd get
True. I could definitely see Jack nominating him though. Seeing his backstory and the similar names as a reason to put him through the trials.
Actually that could be a good moral challenge for the Boys. They spend so much time hating on heroes, but who do they call for help when the supervillain serial killers come knocking
Since both Marvel and DC have their own versions of a multiverse, my head canon is that the multiverse encompasses both of them BUT they're so far apart on the spectrum that they only bleed together a bit near the middle (and those are the "crossover" comics they've tossed at us a few times over the years).