In the world of the Boys tv show are animals sentient? Because Deep having full conversations with multiple octopods and a lobster and a dolphin and hearing goldfish beg for their lives would imply that all meat eating in this setting is essentially mass murder.
Like Timothy begged for his life and prayed to God. That implies a level of self awareness on par with a person.
Didn't he shove an octopus up his dick?
Who hasn't?
This scene unironically may have turned me vegan.
I have been uncomfortable eating meat since I saw it and I have already stopped personally buying animal products
Good good, now eat ze bugs
He's vegan, he won't eat bugs. That's the whole point, moron.
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lol
Lol, homosexual.
Dude, plants feel just as much pain as animals. They communicate their pain to each other, so that the rest of the group can start producing insecticides and make themselves bitter.
>vegan
>not even two minutes later cannibalism gets brought up
Why does this keep happening
octopuses and dolphins are meant to be pretty intelligent
don't know about the lobster
I can understand Deep being upset about eating live octopus. But him being upset about seafood seems a bit strange. He is aware animals eat other animals right?
It was established, either in season one or two (forget which) that one of the chief reasons why the Deep is such a c**t to people and generally a horrible human being, is due to the fact that his power lets him hear the thoughts of all known sea life and a lot of them are in pain/agony due to humanity's treatment of them and that it ultimately broke The Deep mentally as a result and caused him to not give a frick about normal people and even other super-heroes unless they are more powerful than him.
>that all meat eating in this setting is essentially mass murder.
It is, true to real life. Just because animals are stupid doesn't mean we're not slaughtering them en masse because they taste good. Only pussies are bothered by that, though. I wouldn't care if chickens could speak the king's English, they're delicious. Simple as.
I think we should be able to eat people but nooo that's going too far
>2022
>global warming
>civil unrest
>food and other supply shortages
>world overpopulated
Wait a little longer and we won't have a choice when it comes to eating people, the only major difference is we haven't completely killed the oceans
Yet
Shut up homosexual.
>the only major difference is we haven't completely killed the oceans
Environmentalists are unironic deniers of nature, they deny that we are at the mercy of nature. They go silent whenever there's mentions of volcanoes, tsunamis,. hurricanes, tornadoes, or floods. Why? Because those events go against their idea of nature being inert
yes, we are at the mercy of nature because we are part of it. What, do you think we're some special exception because le magic man in the sky created us? Just as we're part of nature, we can have an effect on the myriad interconnected systems that comprise it, and a (measurably) disproportionate one at that. Sure there have been more extreme changes to the earth's climate in the past... but not while modern humans have existed. Which is really what counts if we're trying to maintain a functioning civilization.
Volcanoes and tsunamis are only ones they don't mention. Everything else they do talk about as sea levels rise and dryer seasons become normal. Shit they linked locus at one point.
Nah man just pull the rug on all SSRIS and other antidepressants and we'd have a fresh stock from sheer amount of the suicides
People were saying the exact same shit 80 years ago. Nothing changes.
>people talked about these problems years ago
>some of those people actually did something about it which slowed down the destruction of the environment
>moron anon somehow thinks this means all that stuff was a hoax or something
Can't imagine what goes on in your moron brain
Only orphans from Indo-China tho
That’s not right. And it’s not something disliked only by “pussies”.
Cephalopods have the largest brain to body mass ratio of all invertebrates and have shown both long term memory retention and complex puzzle solving skills and various testing suggest they have an IQ of 40, almost half the average human IQ of 100
Dolphins are even smarter than that and are widely recognized as the 2nd most intelligent animal on the planet after humans
Lobsters go snip snip snip
Its for humor but for the sake of overanalyzing lets say The deep translates whatever primitive concepts as humanized ones. An octopus aware of danger begging to live so it may reproduce and continue as it has before is taken as him saying he has a wife and kids(prior matings), for example. Panicked struggling is taken as prayers to god.
"If fish could scream. The ocean would be loud as shit."
-Mitch Hedberg.
No
The deep is basically a schizo and just imagines that the fish are talking to him.
I prefer to believe only smart animals like octopus and dolphins are sentient but he can control them to such a degree that he doesn't even realize it and gives them personalities
it is mass murder.
The point is research has found octupuses...octopi, whatever, are really smart maybe sentient IN OUR WORLD NOW.
Deep only goes for smarter marine life because he seeks connection and he is also really dumb for a human so it levels out. And that's the joke.
At what point in the show did the writers just forget that Homelander has super-hearing and X-ray vision? I mean, I completely forgot about Billy's dad, but I could still remember that.
He's too hyperfocused on trying to prove Edgar wrong.
Why do people think animals in general don’t have sentience? They can perceive the world around them and react to stimulus. They can use simple logic and even express some amount of emotions.
Hell I can play with my dog and teach him tricks. He seems pretty sentient to me.
Yeah, that's a mammal.
Fish are just protein sticks that swim though.
Ya, but your dog isn't self aware of his presence in the context of, like, the universe. He's just a guy who plain is all the time.
Perception is a meaningless moral standard. Everything alive perceives, even a bacteria. Everything makes decisions in some way and feels pain - you don't need a brain to do either, it happens on a cellular level. Centralized nervous systems just up your perception and decision making factor exponentially, and there is no good point of "yeah, this is just TOO smart to kill." Either you eat plants and animals without much thought, or you eat nothing. It really is that simple.
All life depends on pain and death. That is how the universe works. There is no free lunch.
The difference is sentience versus sapience. A dog is sentient, aware of it's own existence, aware of the existence of others, and has a rudimentary form of abstract thinking. Humans on the other hand are sapient, aware of ourself, aware of others, aware that our actions affect others, are able to think in significantly abstract ways that allows for long term planning (If I gather these seeds, put them in the ground at the right time, and add water then a plant will grow from which I can harvest food), and most importantly we have developed sophisticated language in which to convey information beyond simply "there is danger here" or "I am hungry."
That being said it doesn't excuse cruelty toward animals. But at this point we'd be better off putting more research into lab grown meat so that we don't have to kill anything to get food, than trying to turn the whole world vegan.
Why didn't Homelander just snap Annie's neck in episode 7 the second he saw her?
le fame
he says this
That doesn't explain why Annie was able to just walk into Vought and steal temp-V and just walk right out with no resistance at all. The writing is just shit.
God, I wish I were Black Noir
Maybe he's just schizophrenic
The other possibility is that Deep's power isn't just talking to sealife, but that it's actually him imparting sentience on them without realising. Which would be much more terrifying.