Incorrect. Here's how you fix it from the woke perspective, make the protagonist less sexist he and fricks black and Latina chicks. That fixes all the problems, you cast like Jeff from community as the main guy and then all the women of color will just thirst for his BWC and then he does the magic shit.
In order to adapt it into an HBO series, they would need to pick a good cast....and then NOT CHANGE EVERYTHING. However, most show makers are incapable of that now, so they just shouldnt even bother.
It wasn't that bad, if you can excuse the very mid-oughts-low-budget-young-adult-show feel, which not everybody can. It's like the Constantine reboot show of its era.
It was somewhat similar. You had a poor attempt at adapting the first book in there too. It was just low budget, poorly written schlock. The books are schlock too but they aren't held to a shoestring cgi budget.
Blackthorn was decent casting but yeah it was a pretty loose adaptation which is probably why Butcher has said he'd need way more control if it was ever adapted again
Oh frick off. His staff was a fricking hockey stick. A FRICKING HOCKEY STICK. And his blasting rod? A drum stick.
You can frick right off with the "not so bad" bullshit. Ignoring the fact that Morgan was black, Bob was corporeal and an English Butler and Murphy wasn't a cute blonde but an ugly goblino.
every adaptation these days is run by people who think they know better than the original creator
makes me wonder why they even spend the money to get rights to things instead of just doing their own thing to begin with, because actual fans of the source material have long since caught on to that fact and know to steer clear so it's not like they're starting with a solid fanbase to begin with
This
3 was always intended as the first book
Like a lot of sci-fi/fantasy stuff you have to get a few books in and have a good understanding of the whole world, and then it really comes alive.
For me, I imagined Murphy as that girl from Heroes. The Cheerleader. Clearly fit, Clearly short and very pretty. He even says she has that "preppy" cheerleader look.
But it's been so long since book 1 and 2, now she's probably too old.
Make Dresden into a whiny cuck and have Murphy/Molly/Susan do everything remotely important
I mean he's already a whiny cuck in the books so we're halfway there.
With Twilight starting a new urban fantasy/vampire craze and the success of Sherlock you would think someone wouldve tried to adapt this properly. They'd probably make Murphy black
Ngl the lore and plot of the book series has made a fanboy out of me, I'm embarrassed since the writing is blatantly cringe but I enjoy it and think taking another crack at the series, if super faithful, would be a good idea
It's a good guilty pleasure series, especially in audio book form. It's cringe but reasonably entertaining and easy to digest. I think a show could work out alright.
It's not even that bad. It's just very, very cliche. But I think that's what makes it so "fun". Butcher doesn't seem to care and goes full on cliche with the whole Noir Monologue, flowing Leather Duster and tonnes of tonnes of cheesy monologues with shitty 80's tier action movie quips.
Ngl the lore and plot of the book series has made a fanboy out of me, I'm embarrassed since the writing is blatantly cringe but I enjoy it and think taking another crack at the series, if super faithful, would be a good idea
The only cliche I hate is basically every female character falls in love with/wants to frick Dresden, but he's mostly oblivious like he's a harem anime protagonist. It's cringe as frick and comes off as extremely self-insert garbage.
Off the top of my head so far it's Susan, Molly, Murphy, Thomas's Sister, Lashiel ( a fricking angel fell in love with him ), and then Maeve and Mab who just wanted to use/frick him. I'm sure there's more.
it's less him having game and more just every character falling in love with him because he's the protag. I wouldn't mind it if the character was legitimately charming/a ladykiller like some James Bond type but it more just comes off like an anime protagonist self insert. Dresden doesn't even try and they all fall for him
Lara wants to frick Dresden because she's a succubus, Lasciel only had a copy in his head and that copy only offered to mind-frick him (get it), Maeve definitely wanted to use him and Mab one hundred percent did.
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Maeve wanted to frick probably just cause she knew attempting to do so would probably kill him I mean look how fricked up Carlos ended up after making out with Winter Lady Molly
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Maeve wanted to frick him because she was possessed by an outsider
Isn't Maeve or Mab his grandmother or something? I might be mixing things up.
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No, his grandmother is never mentioned. You're probably thinking of his Godmother, who is a fairy who is Mab's Lieutenant.
Lara wants to frick Dresden because she's a succubus, Lasciel only had a copy in his head and that copy only offered to mind-frick him (get it), Maeve definitely wanted to use him and Mab one hundred percent did.
It's getting more and more implied that Lara actually likes Dresden and in the end they say the Lasciel-copy literally sacrificed herself to save him because she was in love with him.
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God Mother. i.e. they were there when he was born or his mother had a deal with them which meant she owned a portion of him or something iirc. The Leanansidhe fricked up her takeover from Mab, she lost that right to Mab herself. Who only wants Dresden as a pawn because he's proven himself.
I wouldn't trust any major production group to do it while sticking to the source material unless I had a gun to their heads. At this point I'm terrified someone will do an adaptation and we'll have fricking zoomies running around saying "what do you MEAN Murphy isn't a black trans pansexual demiqueer with no hair that weighs 300 pounds?!?"
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The one thing that pissed me off with the show is how utterly terrible the casting was. I mean, the whole show was fricking garbage and they clearly didn't care about the lore, but my fricking god it was bad casting. Well, aside from Dresden himself, that wasn't terrible.
But like -- Black Morgan? Why? If you want to insert a black guy into the story, why not just introduce Michael, Sasha and Shiro earlier. You don't need to introduce the Fallen Angels yet. Sasha was fricking cool as shit and a top tier bro for Dresden.
And then there was Murphy. Why was she some typical American Goblino Mexican? You literally have a Latino woman in the show and again, she was great. She dies a literal hero.
Read the first book a few years back, barely made my way through it. It was like being trapped inside the mind of a reddit hermit. Non-stop internal monologues about the struggles and virtues of his imposed simple life since he can't use electricity or complicated machines. constantly patting himself on the back for his "old fashioned" sensibilities regarding manners and women and being too honorable to take advantage of all the people that are compromised by love potions and spells around him. Does it get any better in the later books? or is just more constant whine bragging about his morally superior but challenging life?
>"her" shoulders are wide. Like that of a man's. her long legs gait like mine. Her hands large and masculine- one holding her fridge like hip, another fiddling her earing. She swallowed as our eyes met- the adams apple twitching. She was a man.
I read the series out of boredom and you're right. The prose barely got better as the books progressed. I regret the time wasted reading it. It's no better than self-published trash on Amazon. Sort of related but if someone recommends you In The Name of The Wind, avoid it at all cost too.
Willfully cucked, too. He's consistently portrayed as a fricking wunderkind who excels at everything he sets his mind to. And, yet, when it comes to this one chick he can't seem to keep all his spaghetti together log enough to pin her to the floor with his magical wiener.
Well first things first he’s gotta be black and we’re gonna talk about heckin racism
Incorrect. Here's how you fix it from the woke perspective, make the protagonist less sexist he and fricks black and Latina chicks. That fixes all the problems, you cast like Jeff from community as the main guy and then all the women of color will just thirst for his BWC and then he does the magic shit.
This. Take my upboat. Also, make sure his wife is white and they have a beautiful, brown teenage daughter who is a heckin genius.
It's pretty generic urban fantasy, should be ez enough. Given complete creative control I would cast a fat neckbeard for the lols.
They did make a TV show, but I think it only lasted one season or something.
it was not good
In order to adapt it into an HBO series, they would need to pick a good cast....and then NOT CHANGE EVERYTHING. However, most show makers are incapable of that now, so they just shouldnt even bother.
It wasn't that bad, if you can excuse the very mid-oughts-low-budget-young-adult-show feel, which not everybody can. It's like the Constantine reboot show of its era.
it was just mostly Dresden in name only...the show was mostly fine, but it wasnt Dresden
It was somewhat similar. You had a poor attempt at adapting the first book in there too. It was just low budget, poorly written schlock. The books are schlock too but they aren't held to a shoestring cgi budget.
The books being schlock is a large part of what makes them appealing. He does extremely chicle shit, but its done in a way that entertaining.
Sure, but my point is that the show was also just monster of the week schlock.
Hockey Stick staff and drumstick blasting rod was kino tho
Blackthorn was decent casting but yeah it was a pretty loose adaptation which is probably why Butcher has said he'd need way more control if it was ever adapted again
Oh frick off. His staff was a fricking hockey stick. A FRICKING HOCKEY STICK. And his blasting rod? A drum stick.
You can frick right off with the "not so bad" bullshit.
Ignoring the fact that Morgan was black, Bob was corporeal and an English Butler and Murphy wasn't a cute blonde but an ugly goblino.
every adaptation these days is run by people who think they know better than the original creator
makes me wonder why they even spend the money to get rights to things instead of just doing their own thing to begin with, because actual fans of the source material have long since caught on to that fact and know to steer clear so it's not like they're starting with a solid fanbase to begin with
cast kacey rohl as detective murphy
I imagined Murphy as thicker than this. Also I tried getting through this but the writing is fanfic tier. Does this actually get better?
Listen to the audiobooks. It's the only way to digest the series. And James Marsters is kino.
Start at book 3 and then after book six go back and read one and two if you feel like it.
This
3 was always intended as the first book
Like a lot of sci-fi/fantasy stuff you have to get a few books in and have a good understanding of the whole world, and then it really comes alive.
Book 3 is where it really takes off
>Also I tried getting through this but the writing is fanfic tier
welcome to modern day fantasy anon
Book 1 literally is a fan fic he hate wrote to piss off his writing professor
Murphy is such an annoying character thank frick he killed her in the last book. If only he would kill Butters next.
I always imagined Murph as Kristen Bell
For me, I imagined Murphy as that girl from Heroes. The Cheerleader. Clearly fit, Clearly short and very pretty. He even says she has that "preppy" cheerleader look.
But it's been so long since book 1 and 2, now she's probably too old.
>cropping out the breasts on her in that dress
Shiggy diggy
I imagined her more like Gillian Anderson, but then again, I always skip over character descriptions
first, we need the lead to be a black lesbian with nappy hair.
Make Dresden into a whiny cuck and have Murphy/Molly/Susan do everything remotely important
I mean he's already a whiny cuck in the books so we're halfway there.
With Twilight starting a new urban fantasy/vampire craze and the success of Sherlock you would think someone wouldve tried to adapt this properly. They'd probably make Murphy black
Ngl the lore and plot of the book series has made a fanboy out of me, I'm embarrassed since the writing is blatantly cringe but I enjoy it and think taking another crack at the series, if super faithful, would be a good idea
It's a good guilty pleasure series, especially in audio book form. It's cringe but reasonably entertaining and easy to digest. I think a show could work out alright.
It's not even that bad. It's just very, very cliche. But I think that's what makes it so "fun". Butcher doesn't seem to care and goes full on cliche with the whole Noir Monologue, flowing Leather Duster and tonnes of tonnes of cheesy monologues with shitty 80's tier action movie quips.
The only cliche I hate is basically every female character falls in love with/wants to frick Dresden, but he's mostly oblivious like he's a harem anime protagonist. It's cringe as frick and comes off as extremely self-insert garbage.
Wasn't it only 3 chicks?
Off the top of my head so far it's Susan, Molly, Murphy, Thomas's Sister, Lashiel ( a fricking angel fell in love with him ), and then Maeve and Mab who just wanted to use/frick him. I'm sure there's more.
Damn, Dresden got game.
it's less him having game and more just every character falling in love with him because he's the protag. I wouldn't mind it if the character was legitimately charming/a ladykiller like some James Bond type but it more just comes off like an anime protagonist self insert. Dresden doesn't even try and they all fall for him
Yeah, like I said, game.
Lara wants to frick Dresden because she's a succubus, Lasciel only had a copy in his head and that copy only offered to mind-frick him (get it), Maeve definitely wanted to use him and Mab one hundred percent did.
Maeve wanted to frick probably just cause she knew attempting to do so would probably kill him I mean look how fricked up Carlos ended up after making out with Winter Lady Molly
Maeve wanted to frick him because she was possessed by an outsider
Isn't Maeve or Mab his grandmother or something? I might be mixing things up.
No, his grandmother is never mentioned. You're probably thinking of his Godmother, who is a fairy who is Mab's Lieutenant.
It's getting more and more implied that Lara actually likes Dresden and in the end they say the Lasciel-copy literally sacrificed herself to save him because she was in love with him.
God Mother. i.e. they were there when he was born or his mother had a deal with them which meant she owned a portion of him or something iirc. The Leanansidhe fricked up her takeover from Mab, she lost that right to Mab herself. Who only wants Dresden as a pawn because he's proven himself.
Lea is his godmother
i always thought picrel would be perfect as murphy
thick girthy wieners
I wouldn't trust any major production group to do it while sticking to the source material unless I had a gun to their heads. At this point I'm terrified someone will do an adaptation and we'll have fricking zoomies running around saying "what do you MEAN Murphy isn't a black trans pansexual demiqueer with no hair that weighs 300 pounds?!?"
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He would be canceled for grooming as soon as Molly is introduced
The one thing that pissed me off with the show is how utterly terrible the casting was. I mean, the whole show was fricking garbage and they clearly didn't care about the lore, but my fricking god it was bad casting. Well, aside from Dresden himself, that wasn't terrible.
But like -- Black Morgan? Why? If you want to insert a black guy into the story, why not just introduce Michael, Sasha and Shiro earlier. You don't need to introduce the Fallen Angels yet. Sasha was fricking cool as shit and a top tier bro for Dresden.
And then there was Murphy. Why was she some typical American Goblino Mexican? You literally have a Latino woman in the show and again, she was great. She dies a literal hero.
Read the first book a few years back, barely made my way through it. It was like being trapped inside the mind of a reddit hermit. Non-stop internal monologues about the struggles and virtues of his imposed simple life since he can't use electricity or complicated machines. constantly patting himself on the back for his "old fashioned" sensibilities regarding manners and women and being too honorable to take advantage of all the people that are compromised by love potions and spells around him. Does it get any better in the later books? or is just more constant whine bragging about his morally superior but challenging life?
>"her" shoulders are wide. Like that of a man's. her long legs gait like mine. Her hands large and masculine- one holding her fridge like hip, another fiddling her earing. She swallowed as our eyes met- the adams apple twitching. She was a man.
I read the series out of boredom and you're right. The prose barely got better as the books progressed. I regret the time wasted reading it. It's no better than self-published trash on Amazon. Sort of related but if someone recommends you In The Name of The Wind, avoid it at all cost too.
>In the name of the Wind
The book in which the self-insert still get cucked. lmao
Willfully cucked, too. He's consistently portrayed as a fricking wunderkind who excels at everything he sets his mind to. And, yet, when it comes to this one chick he can't seem to keep all his spaghetti together log enough to pin her to the floor with his magical wiener.
>magic and wizardry meet hard boiled detective fiction
FEDORA LADS WE'RE GOING HOME
who will play the dommy mommy fae who makes Dresen her b***h?
I loved the audiobooks. The tv show was very shoddy
I wouldn't. Adaptations need to fricking stop. Either make something new or DON'T FRICKING MAKE ANYTHING AT ALL AND GET A REAL GODDAMNED JOB.
>hoping to test my pickup skills on nerdy teen weeb girls
Well? How was it?
Give it to Joss Whedon
Whedon's sucktitude would mesh well with the craptitude of this turd, I feel
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