The easiest way to tell a fake Star Wars fan from a real one is asking them who was the main villain of "New Hope"
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The easiest way to tell a fake Star Wars fan from a real one is asking them who was the main villain of "New Hope"
Yes, because a fake fan calls it "A New Hope", a real fan calls it Star Wars.
The fricking creator called it A New Hope, only gays call it Star Wars
>>The fricking creator
You stupid piece of shit... The OT was a team effort.... If Lucas had full power back then, the ot would have sucked as much as the PT and ST... You fricking idiot....
After the fact, johnny-come-lately homosexual.
It was still named like that by the creator, only real fans acknowledge this unlike homosexuals who aren’t real fans.
The first mention of A New Hope was in Popular Mechanics two months before the release of Empire Strikes Back.
That is old enough that the debate doesn't matter. I'm too fricking old, 40+, and I've known it as ANH since childhood.
I call it The Peepee Poopoo Space Movie.
35 year old virgins obsess over the fiddly details and take a children's space flick too seriously
actual fans just enjoy it
I've never seen the Jabba design up close like that. It's pretty cool.
you just know...
HUTTED
>Creator
He relinquished his authority when he sold SW to 'white slavers'. He didn't care jackshit about his creation. So frick him and frick all 'I'm sorrry Prrquels were le good' wienersucking reddit sympathizers
The main villain was the death star
I don't even remember how Tarkin dies. That's how inconsequential he was.
You forgot the destruction of the fricking Death Star?
Why would he care about the siege drill prototype?
>Why would he care about the siege drill prototype?
Now that really hurts.
Did I post that? I said I don't remember how Tarkin dies. If he was on the Death Star then it means I don't remember him still being on the Death Star, not that I don't remember the Death Star blowing up.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>I don't remember him still being on the Death Star
He was literally on it the entire movie Anon.
Ok, well I don't remember that. Still doesn't mean I don't remember the thing blowing up.
>I don't remember him still being on the Death Star
He WAS the Death Star.
you don't remember him blowing up Leia's homeworld with it?
Do you not remember blue milk?
You're moronic.
He gets force choked by Vader
wrong
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Killed himself after his gay lover Stormtrooper TK-421 was killed by known right wing terrorist Luke Skywalker.
What in the actual frick is this fanfiction?
>When Tarkin sent a message back for TK-421 to report to his officer's quarters to repair his aqualeisure unit, TK-421 understood Tarkin's implied intentions and saw an opportunity for himself and his droid to advance. Tarkin and TK-421 began a clandestine intimate relationship that progressed quickly. TK-421 was promoted to station security, a position that Tarkin believed would be safe, and the stormtrooper hoped he and his droid would soon be relocated to Tarkin's apartment on Coruscant.
Did you fall asleep during the last 30 minutes of the movie or is your memory just dogshit?
Leia for not giving Chewie a medal.
House pets don't get medals.
it would still be vader. he's literally the first villain you see on screen and has the most screen time. if you wanna say that tarkin was higher up on the government hierarchy, ok sure, i guess.
>who was the main villain of "New Hope"
reva when they digitally insert her for the 50th anniversary edition
it was the emperor obviously
I'm sorry for not being 50 year old.
"You can't win Darth"
Darth was his name and they changed it later to a title. They just make this shit up as they go along
Yeah, obviously. But the retcon is that Obi-Wan wont even refer to Vader by his real name, because as far as he's concerned, his old friend is dead.
Tarkin calls him Vader when he chokes that guy
Suppose one of your friends became an evil communist along the way. If you confronted the commie, you might address him as "Comrade" rather than by name to show that you saw him only as a communist, not as your old friend.
It's like that with Obi-wan calling him "Darth."
>evil communist
redundant
Yeah it was Obi Wan. He didn't kill Vader when he had the chance and that lead to the deaths of countless Jedi.
He intentionally didn't kill Vader because of the some bogus moral code. lets run that back a bit. Obi Wan
>watched Vader mass murder children
>choke the shit out of his pregnant girlfriend
and he still didn't kill him when he had the chance
>but muh high ground volcano planet
did he really expect Vader not to have backup? Who where all those guys at the temple with Vader?
Obi Wan is a seasoned combat veteran. he should damn well know that Vader could survive. Especially since Vader isn't a normal person. A normal person can survive some serious shit. Vader is a force user; a super hero. and he's not just a superhero force user. He's one of the strongest force users in the entire fricking galaxy.
Lucas, as he was prone to do, wrote himself into a corner. That's the only reason Obi Wan didn't kill Vader. And it's such a stupid mistake to make.
Why not show Anakin losing more than just his hand in the clone wars? Why make it so that Obi Wan has to be the one to put Vader in the suit? Just bad writing from Lucas.
Obi didn't kill Vader that time because he loved him. The whole movie was building that up.
It's okay, though. The Kenobi show validates your point anyway, since Kenobi knew definitively that Vader was all-evil, and goes on to say that he wants Luke to kill him in ESB, but still didn't kill him when he was dead to rights a decade after his "mistake" on Mustafar.
Lucas wrote Kenobi as making an error in grief, perhaps, or a moral failing.
Disney wrote him as a moron.
>exhausted, couldn't force push or pull him either way to finish it
>didn't think to chuck his own light saber dropped after the dismemberment to do it
>guy's flash burning from the lava anyways and should be toast momentarily
Still agree with you, since even in Yoda's case, neither gave Luke the best/straightforward advice, and couched it in the literal physical destruction of Vader -- ultimately proved wrong by dint of Luke's 'attachment' (bad, dark side temptation) to his own Father. Even staging his death at Vader's hand, Obi's doing a bit of motivational manipulation, "He killed my father AND my father's bro!"
>and Zuckass
lmao
Lucas is such a shitty writer. and I'm not a Disney shill. He's lucky Abrams and Johnson are worse writers and filmmakers than him. The Disney trilogy is the best thing that could've happened to Lucas reputation. And fans often overlook the fact that Lucas wrote part of TFA. In Lucas initial draft Luke didn't restart the jedi order. He's a creepy old dude training a teenage girl. With the help of this chick he taps into a miniverse of beings that control the force called "whils" the apprentice chick later travels to the miniverse to attempt to communicate with the "whils"
That's it. That's the shit Lucas wrote. That's the guy Star Wars fans wanted back to "save" Star Wars.
The Whills have been around since the very beginning of the franchise, you stupid frick.
No, they haven't and they're not canon. Just some dumb shit he started cooking up to go with his stupid midichlorines.
most filtered post I've seen today, congrats
Lucas said in 1994 the canon heirchy was 1) The Movies / Screenplay 2) The Radio Dramas and 3) The novelizations. That means until 2002, Uncle Owen and Obi-Wan being brothers was Lucas approved canon.
all writing is shit, oral histories are where its at
It should have stayed as Empire versus Rebels with some elements like Jedi in the background. Jedi and Sith completely taking over the narrative is really lame.
And when Vader says the Force is more powerful than any battlestation, I took that as what a religious believer would say. That is, being guided by the force you could find more success than what powerful weapons could carry out. Like someone saying they follow Christ. Instead, New Wars has it as very literal - Force users are throwing around giant metal things with ease.
Less = more
Jedi were cool. Now they're lame as hell.
Vader was flinging metal around as early as Empire
>Metal boxes are the same as a ship with full thrust in the other direction
There's always been a little power creep but nu-wars just immediately jumped off the slippery slope.
Very true, but that’s a problem of degree not of kind like when
said
>Instead, New Wars has it as very literal - Force users are throwing around giant metal things with ease.
Clearly that wasn’t a New Wars innovation. It’s actually very interesting how different the concept for ANH was: Darth Vader as his actual name, a weak figurehead Emperor (per the novelization), Uncle Owen and Papa Skywalker having relevant history, etc. it could have branched out so many different ways
Checked. I agree, it could have gone so many ways.
I remember hearing that the way the clone wars were described, the clones were originally on the opposite side.
Also makes me wonder what the original plan for "more powerful than you can possibly imagine" is since force ghost pep talks sure ain't it.
No i think he meant that quite literally
Force allows you to
>have precognition
>mind trick weaker people
>throw objects and just be physically better at a lot of things
All that power can like the emperor allow you to gain more power than military might alone
Tarkin's not a good villain, he's not fleshed out and his motivations are never stated. Once Disney makes a show about him as a child and angsty teen growing up with a single mother parent and his dreams tyranny and destroying planets, only then will I think he is a worthy character to be in star war.
The SW fandom has really changed.
Is there really a wookieepedia article on breasts?
Oh my god it really is. What fricking level of autism is this?
it used to be a fun meme you newbie but Disney nuked it when they took over
now everyone just links to it to show what they took
There is. It was even showcasing a nice pair of twi'lek breasts, before it was deemed too NSFW.
Do you have a link to said picture.
Star Wars Art Visions: Sleeping Aayla Secura.
You'll find it. It's actually an official artwork.
Vader was just the dog of based Moff Tarkin. He's even got a chain to be kicked around, kek
Vader was more like the baby sitter sent to keep Taking in check and in the end Tarkin proves to be an arrogant idiot
no it's not
it's to ask them to name everyone in this picture without looking it up
>Jim Cod Piece
>Mr. Coffee Head
>Bob Affet
>Lou Gossett Jr. in Enemy Mine
All of them except Dengar have been in cameos in Disney SW.
>REMEMBER BOSSK?
Dengar appeared in TROS
god fricking damnit
also I forgot 4LOM and Zuckass weren't in that picture
Brendan Frasier
G.I. Joebot
The Mandalorian
Jaws
Dengar
IG 88
Boba Fett
BOSSK
I said this before I saw everyone named them. I wasn't sure about Dengar. He was the only one I didn't have an action figure of.
Dengar
IG-88
Boba Fett
Bossk
t.played lego star wars
4LOM
Dengar
IG 88
Booba Fett
Bossk
I only remember this because I recently played through the star wars lego 2 game
I can only name them because I watched a bunch of Star Wars fan films yesterday.
Somehow Palpatine returned
why is cia wearing the mask?
wouldn't it be the emperor?
The real villain is the average citizen of the Empire that was complaisant enough to allow him to rise to power.
What's sad is unlike actors like Guinness and Ford, Cushing liked playing Tarkin and was disappointed he couldn't be involved with the series further. The first movie is the best one because of Tarkin, never liked how the series hard switched to having Vader be the big Imperial in charge of everyone everywhere. And him chasing after Luke undermined the Empire Rebel war.
>And him chasing after Luke undermined the Empire Rebel war.
Isn't that the point? The Imperial troops have all been had. Imagine busting your ass at the Academy only to find out you're a stooge for a fricking death cult.
>the real villain of avengers was thanos, then the chitauri king, then loki because chain of command
A real friend remembers who played the original Emperor in Empire Strikes Back, before he got replaced in re-edit.
I don't think Lucas himself remembers who played the Emperor originally. IIRC it was a makeup artists and a monkey.
I think it's a mistake showing the Emperor's face before ROTJ. When he speaks to Vader here it should be a profile shot where the hood obscures his face or something.
Looks like shit.