The evil Morty storyline turned out to be pointless, the writers didn’t even know what to do with him
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The evil Morty storyline turned out to be pointless, the writers didnt even know what to do with him
and neither do you
I’m not a writer dummy
yeah it sucks, incompetent writers accidentally made something interesting and then wasted it, happens all too often. but it's good though, evil morty timeline is all that kept me interested in the show, now that it's a dud i can officially move on entirely.
>okay wise guy! let's see YOU take a crack at it!
not our job to write their show for them
They aren't paying him so why would that matter.
What did you expect, exactly?
something new but also old with something that would surprise me but that i was also expecting
Why’d he become president for nothing?
because
>truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmp
Heh. I think you may be right. It's the same episode that had the "Morty lives matter!" so can't deny it's a politics episode.
Honestly yeah considering it was likely written around then it was probably another case of adult cartoons shitting themselves because trump won
Evil Morty was clearly more of an Obama-spoof, though.
He became president to gather resources in order to leave the central finite curve.
Everything is *beeeelch* pointless, Anonymorty. Wubba lubba dub duuuuuub!
AW JEEZ
There shouldn't be any storylines in Rick and Morty. It should just be weekly antics with mild character development at most.
I never liked how almost all of the Ricks in the citadel were seemingly okay with a Morty president, and all the changes EM make Morty's more equal with Ricks. Why the hell would you want your slave race to gain casual access to one of your most prized inventions, or ever be on the same footing as you (especially since you often end up kill or endanger them)? Anyone smart enough would've never taken that chance, and given how paranoid Rick tends to be at times, it seems incredibly OOC that numerous other versions would willingly allow it.
There's two important nuances to the Central Finite Curve. It only guarantees that a Rick is the smartest person in the universe.
1. It does not guarantee anything about the people below Rick. He could be stranded in a universe of idiots, or the next person down could be an almost even match.
2. It does not guarantee anything about Rick's own intelligence. If everyone else is an idiot, he could be a small cut above but still barely able to work a hammer.
The short of it is that most Ricks are not as competent as the main Rick. For emphasis, only two Ricks have ever figured out portal travel on their own. Every other Rick had it handed to them. A huge proportion of the Citadel Ricks are guys that are smart enough to realize that working for Rick money and buying sci-fi bullshit is a better use of their time than going back to their home dimension and working on ovenless brownies or whatever big project they came up with on their own.
You end up with a big proportion of the Citadel Ricks being Ricks that have had to swallow their pride and admit that they're small fish in a big pond now. At that point, Morties probably look more like a grandson and less like a minion. Why wouldn't you be fine with your grandson being treated well, then? Most of the Morties you mean are nicer than the Council. Why can't he lead?
This. How often do you see C-137 using public transport? Most of the Citadel Ricks despite being "the smartest in their respective universe" are cogs in the machine, whereas Our Rick is a total anarchist.
>only two Ricks have ever figured out portal travel on their own.
Also never made much sense when you think about it, and was a clearly a soft retcon
>At that point, Morties probably look more like a grandson and less like a minion.
1. Until they die on an adventure
2.They're not really those Rick's grandson's, so why bother? Point above, They're going to die on an escapade of theirs such really not worth getting attached. I could see a few words being able to get attached to their Morty's but that's it
>Why wouldn't you be fine with your grandson being treated well, then?
Again, not their grandsons. Just second class disposable minions.
>Most of the Morties you meet are nicer than the Council. Why can't he lead?
Because it's the Citadel of Ricks, not "The Citadel of Ricks led by a Non-Rick". Most of the Rick's go to the citadel because they want to feel supreme and superior, and live completely unchallanged. Why would you want what's essentially your slave race to gain any bit of power in a place where you're supposed to be on top? It makes no sense narratively that none of the higher up or smarter Rick's tried to put a stop to EM's shit (behind the scenes; think black ops) as soon as he started enacting policies to get Morty's more casual use of Rick made stuff, especially the portal gun; The one thing they would never want to risk the falling into enemy hands and getting reverse engineered. Knowing Morties, It's an outright miracle that it never happened at all within the timeframe Evil Morty let it happen.
What do you mean? The point was that THAT Morty was trying to, an succeeded in, escaping the walled-off cluster of universes that the Ricks had set-aside for themselves. Inside that cluster, infinite though the universes were, there were no universes where anybody but Rick was the smartest (and freest) person to exist. There was no "Council of Jerries," where an infinite number of super-intelligent Jerries reigned supreme, inside their walls.
It isn't pointless just because you don't like the outcome. You're just dissatisfied with the outcome.
That part is makes sense, which only becomes known on the episode where he actually does it. Everything leading up to it seemed random and mysterious
>Everything leading up to it seemed random and mysterious
Up to a certain point, that's pretty much how Rick and Morty's "lore" was being developed. No concrete plan in mind, but enough interdimensional storytelling potential to work with.
I agree. Season 2 was great 'cause it continued building on the show's cast while still keeping them grounded in a sense. It was cute seeing Jerry tag along on Morty's ship-flying lessons or Rick shitting on his teenage grandkids for being so indecisive. The show nowadays does manage to have the occasional "Night Family," but it still feels like the majority is wasted on the Smiths being out of character to service some writer's unfunny joke premise. JUST BE CAMP AND FUNNY. YOU'RE A SCI-FI FAMILY SITCOM. DON'T OVERCOMPLICATE IT.
it became over complicated because women entered the writers room. Dan Harmon was given more priority, and Justin Roiland was shunned for his scripts to the point where he viewed it as a job he didn’t care that’s why he started doing other shit that was essentially Rick and Morty without Dan Harmon because him and the writers he brought on ruined Rick and Morty.
>women women women
It's Dan Harmon wanting to get ambitious with the show despite not knowing what he actually wants out of it. Does he want plot progression and character development, or does he want one-off adventures? Shit changes on a dime now, at the expense of Morty's characterization. If that character is basically on equal footing with Rick now, then there's no way the show can have more than maybe 5 seasons left in it. The rest of the OG writers probably stopped caring once they saw how batshit Harmon was getting with such a simple concept to make entertaining and left out of their own accord. The new writers (both male and female) came along after the show started having a neverending identity crisis, so it's literally impossible for them to mimic the writing style of those first 2-3 seasons. Everything's gotta be super intellectual and subversive I guess.
>women women women
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/meet-women-behind-rick-mortys-third-season-1028204/amp/
>Creators Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland, who debuted the sci-fi cartoon in 2013 on the overnight cable network, decided to shake up their show’s dynamic by adding four new female writers to their staff. The move created a 50-50 male-female split. Harmon made a similar decision on his last show, Community, in 2011 for the NBC sitcom’s third season.
Legitimately it was Dan Harmon‘s fault for hiring 50 women.
>Harmon: The truth is, the writers room on Community, when we specifically decided, because we had a self-imposed and imposed mandate, to do a perfectly balanced writers room gender-wise — which you can accomplish with network TV with a budget that size, visibility that high — [Community producer Chris] McKenna and I did notice that the writers room started to smell better. But I think it was because the guys got ashamed and started cleaning up their garbage a little bit more, probably unconsciously.
There are just as many awful male writers who joined after Season 3. Gender has nothing to do with it. ALL the new writers are working under Harmon's thumb and don't have the same comedic sensibilities as Ridley, McMahan, Kauffman, etc. The show is also just too far gone from the "wacky science grandpa messes with average family" gimmick Roiland loved to toy around with even back in his Channel 101 days. The Smiths barely act like a family now.
What about that sad music scene with all the Morty’s that got launched into space? Not only cringy and gay but ultimately meant nothing
And don’t come at me with “it’s a kids show”
The show has been trash for years.
it was written in the beginning to be a one off thing anyway it’s because of season three and the fact that they had to now add a over arcing story to Rick and Morty which they should’ve never done I blame the women writers as well as them, forcing Justin Roiland out of the writers room I also blame Dan Harmon as him as a filter was the only good thing that he ever did in the first two seasons but him taking over riding has been nothing but a irreparably damaging.
Of course they don't, because as a character his arc was already resolved.
He wanted out of the central finite curve.
He got out of the central finite curve.
Storyline concluded.
Bringing him back was an obvious mistake motivated by the desire to produce fanservice.
The show's been dead since Season 3 Episode 1
>oh you liked the Season 2 cliffhanger? Nvm, Rick was just pretending he can actually escape spacejail any time he wants because he's such a powerful genius!!!!1! XD ebic trolled
Nah you occasionally get the odd fun episode. The show's just not consistent in quality like before. The way they've handled the Central Finite Curve and the overarching narrative is one of the few things I actually like about present-day Rick and Morty (minus the kids never aging). It's the comedy and character dynamics that bug me, though it has been nice to see Rick mellow out in recent seasons.
they've made it abundantly clear that there will never be a real overarching story that matters. They just want to copy other sci-fi properties and put rick and morty characters in them
is the show over after season 10
I'd be surprised if they don't renew it again. Even when [as] puts out something fresh like Royal Crackers, people aren't giving it a chance. They're running out of time to find their next big hit. R&M's ratings have to fall a lot further before a renewal won't be the best option on the table.
>Royal Crackers
People watch that show? I saw the pilot and felt there was too much lame toilet humor to bother continuing. Rick and Morty always had at least a little more going on than just that
Its ok.I mean its bog standard "gaggle of idiots animated sitcom" Its entertaining enough to fill some time, and hasn't run so long everything just blurs together like Simpsons/Family Guy/Bob's Burgers. Its only problem is the absurdity of the premise will only carry it so far while something like Rick and Morty can continually mine interpersonal drama and sci-fi concepts.
It ended up being a sort of alternate take Arrested Development. Both are about an incompetent family trying to hold things together after the patriarch is forcibly removed, but where AD makes jokes out of how awful the family is and the schadenfreude of their ineptitude blowing up in their face, the Hornsby family looks out for each other and tries to do the right thing. Most of the jokes are about their absurd traumas being played completely straight and their inept plans working out thanks to some strange set of circumstances. It's an oddly sincere show.
This is a really good take. Unless the person you responded to posts his hold up on the show a lot, it feels like Darby having diarrhea in the pilot filtered a lot of potential fans.
On a side note, my favorite episodes are the ones that focus on Theo Sr. as I like watching him be an irredeemable butthole in ways you can only be in absurd cartoons.
>as I like watching him be an irredeemable butthole in ways you can only be in absurd cartoons.
Same. The guy was outright evil and you get a different formula for the show from it.
"Evil Morty" was always supposed to be 1 joke from 1 episode, and he only got brought back because fans won't shut up about "the lore"
Half the writers room want R&M to have deep lore, the other half wanted to make something episodic to eventually go into syndication. Every season, the lore writers get thrown a bone because they are no doubt the whiniest.
>pointless
You’re surprised that a show that constantly says nothing matters didn’t take their story seriously? The time to jump ship was that awful train episode
Rick and Morty is too meta, apathetic, conceited to really commit to something because it still lives on the idea that being genuine should be something to fear.
Rick and Morty is written by a guy who rewrote the Joseph Cambell's story wheel for sitcoms that has the first and last step be homeostasis. Even with all of the disposable heartfelt maudlin moments, everyone is to start and end fine in a story. "Aw, Abed is sad. He'll be happy next week." How much depth do you think you can get with that philosophy?
>turned out to be pointless
It resolved. Not everything is capeshit where antagonists keep returning for no reason.
So? 75% of comic books are the same way.
Comic books aren’t a good measure
>storyline
>comedy cartoon
kindly have a nice day