he's supposed to be the manifestation of the fear of the inners that Marco uses to galvanize the other belters, he is a living example of the oppressive inner, which makes us understand Marco's POV a bit better in the later seasons, since most of the belter oppression is either abstracted or more low level societal before season 4 (outside of the Chrisjen torture scene in season 1)
yea it was really dumb for them to drop that, its the best plot in cibola. the original havelock actor wasnt available, but who cares, just get a new actor. most people dont even remember who havelock even was
Always was. Only reason his moronic plan had a chance is because Mars imploded and it's military chokefull of traitors.
Only thing he did was made the betler buckbroken by rich belter instead of inners for a while as Earth (the only viable planet in the system) was completly fricked and Mars somehow worse. Then NotMartian! Empire wrecked their asses anyway.
It's amazing how good this show was and how hard it went to shit in the later seasons.
Frick the actress playing naomi, she shitted up every scene she was in.
nemesis games is kind of shit anyway. the only decent part of that book was the amos and clarissa chapters, and they fricked that all up in the show. the escape from the prison was so much better in the book, they cheapened the whole thing
season 5 is just naomi crying and shouting. it makes season 4 look good. i couldn't finish season 5 and have no plans to even attempt to after the alex thing.
expanse was the best space scifi since bsg and they ruined it.
what the frick are you talking about, season 5 had the great marco asteroid scheme, had a whole storyline dedicate to Amos and a storyline dedicated to Bobby and Alex and saw the return of an actual Chrisjen story that meant anything
Don’t bother. Season 4 was just about acceptable but 5 and 6 absolutely shit the bed. They try to cram in references to events in later books involving the protoculture despite knowing they’d be ending with season 6, so the whole Inaros plotline ends up truncated setting up a Duarte we’ll never see more of. Amazing how poorly Amazon handled the show after picking it up.
It's crazy how Amazon keep fricking every adaption show they get their paw on. At least the Expanse got GOOD season.
Wheel of Time and LOTR got completly fricked over.
No one, not even amazon, blow a fricking billion to "keep the television rights. WoT had a big budget (for a first season) too. It's insane.
In WoT case I'm almost convinced there is money laundering there, because there is now way it costed that much.
That’s why they do it yes. Leveraging expenses is a old scam in giant companies. As long as you keep spending money you can keep getting more money. Even better if you have control over the transparency of how much you’re spending.
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>Even better if you have control over the transparency of how much you’re spending.
they can probably frick with the viewership numbers too when they try to sell it and inflate it even more
If S4 is the Naomi season then agreed it's terrible and the show sucked after they got rid of Miller and killed off Alex. I maybe watched part of S5? I dunno I got to some stupid racing against the tide + glow in the dark snails episode or something then dropped it because the newest characters sucked and they got rid of the oldest/best characters.
>slugs were s4
ok I don't think I even finished S4 then kek i just literally didn't a shit about Naomi, or her stupid side story about her schizo ex and moron son
She should have been the one to take a random micrometeorite to the head, not Alex.
>he died from high g maneuvers
I don't even remember exactly how he dies he just died. That's how bad the show is, and how big of homosexuals the showrunners are for making one of the best characters death scenes only memorable for killing off the character.
In the context of the show not IRL it was random, jarring, and unarguably made the show worse. If he died from high g's as the fricking Roci pilot it's even dumber than taking a random micrometeorite.
This show was always so close to being good but still managed to suck. It had a lot going for it but just never got the pieces together. Foundation is the same, it could be great but just constantly fricks up all the potential
I dropped it after season 5. Partly because of the Alex dying bullshit and learning the show got cancelled, but mostly because of just how terrible Naomi turned out. She's absolutely insufferable and her scenes are so dragged out and bloated I actually started to fast forward during her scenes, something I never do. What the frick were they thinking? She wasn't this god awful in the earlier seasons.
Also Amos on earth sucked balls.
And it was girlboss Naomi who figured out how to trigger it. Maybe he didn't just disintegrate. Maybe the ring entities are raping him constantly for the rest of time.
The last book was the worst thing I've read and there's always some gay who says different when I bring it up. Holy fricking frick Tanaka was a stupid character.
In an alternate universe normies aren't terrified of animation and we actually get kino on the reg. So many amazing stories that we'll either never see tried or only see tried and failed.
>Will never get animated expanse kino with accurately portrayed characters
feel like shit just want a space amazon gf
animation is for children and severely reduces the range of emotion characters display. it's also lazy since the actor only has to voice the character and not actually be them
Oh look, its another "SHOW THAT WAS NEVER GOOD BUT I PRETENDED TO LIKE BECAUSE OTHERS DID SO TOO, BUT NOW THAT IS NOT IN FASHION TO LIKE IT I HAVE TO PRETEND IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE EVEN THOUGH ITS AS BAD AS IT WAS ON DAY ONE" thread.
You are a brainless golem, a programable NPC with no opinion of its own and no taste, you don't like anything that doesn't make you feel accepted by others, you are nothing but a goyslop slurper.
The series ended before the books series did. So you basically end up with an unfinished narrative, functionally no different from if the show had been suddenly canceled. Worse yet, the books they did not adapt were the very best in the series by a large margin. I would really not bother with this series.
It really did suck that we never got to see real live action Laconic supremacy.
The show can pick up and any time they want and finish out the story. They have enough for three more seasons and a time skip. There's no reason to sulk about it and act like it will never get finished when it obviously will one day. This is the one story that was actually finished unlike trash like game of thrones that always promised more and never delivered.
you're moronic, the showrunners have gone on record saying they had a slightly larger budget in the amazon seasons, you have no idea how production works. they actually shot on real locations (season 4 was mostly iceland, season 5 was various locations) which is more expensive than the re-used sound stages that made up most of season 1-3, they also had a way more variety in sets in season 4-6, some only being used for single scenes
it's like if I have to make some sandwich and I have a 100$ budget, I spend 5$ for the knife and 95$ on ingredients, but they spent 80$ on the knife and 20$ on ingredients.
season 5 is just naomi crying and shouting. it makes season 4 look good. i couldn't finish season 5 and have no plans to even attempt to after the alex thing.
expanse was the best space scifi since bsg and they ruined it.
I quit after watching s4. It was fricking terrible, but the reason I quit was because 5 was ramping up to be even worse.
They could not entice me with an upcoming plot so terrible. Plus they killed off some cool characters, so what's the point in watching all the morons go at it with each other.
I just wish we could've seen the wackiest books adapted, seriously the alien shit ramps up big time in the last 3 books
And they even teased it in season 6, it's not fair bros...
Yeah this show has a nutty downward spike. Season 1 is certified kino. Season 2 I couldn’t even finish because it just got bad. Good to know it doesn’t get better later. Did they ever actually address the line his original blonde girlfriend said where she says cryptically “there’s something you should know” or some such? I’m guessing no?
everyone who hates the 4th season+4th book have bad taste and you don't get it. its a space western
all of the new characters introduced in s4 were insufferable wankers or moronic or both
excuse me?
Karl fookin Tannah
>is le hardass high noon gunslinger
>his motive is money
wow
that...and getting revenge for what the belters did to his ship
he's supposed to be the manifestation of the fear of the inners that Marco uses to galvanize the other belters, he is a living example of the oppressive inner, which makes us understand Marco's POV a bit better in the later seasons, since most of the belter oppression is either abstracted or more low level societal before season 4 (outside of the Chrisjen torture scene in season 1)
except he was right about the belters at every step
He always plays a little angry Napoleon complex frick.
you look like a fookin ball sack
He was right the whole time
>is right
>is portrayed as the bad guy
I dropped the show after they killed him off.
Season 4 would have been better if they included Havelock and the space fight.
yea it was really dumb for them to drop that, its the best plot in cibola. the original havelock actor wasnt available, but who cares, just get a new actor. most people dont even remember who havelock even was
>no you don’t get it, it’s supposed to suck ass
come on now
baelta lowda
The only good belter is a dead belter.
it doesn't help that gingers seem to have the monopoly on portraying annoying, loud mouthed and belligerent belters through the entire show
It's almost like Belters are a disparate group, not a single entity. Weird how that happens when you're spread out over numerous asteroids.
belters are like the irish the british sent to colonize shitty places no one wanted to live who do nothing but drink, complain and frick shit up
Just watched the series finale last night. Marco a b***h.
Always was. Only reason his moronic plan had a chance is because Mars imploded and it's military chokefull of traitors.
Only thing he did was made the betler buckbroken by rich belter instead of inners for a while as Earth (the only viable planet in the system) was completly fricked and Mars somehow worse. Then NotMartian! Empire wrecked their asses anyway.
It's amazing how good this show was and how hard it went to shit in the later seasons.
Frick the actress playing naomi, she shitted up every scene she was in.
nemesis games is kind of shit anyway. the only decent part of that book was the amos and clarissa chapters, and they fricked that all up in the show. the escape from the prison was so much better in the book, they cheapened the whole thing
Naomi's only good storyling is in season 5 when she is trapped don the bomb ship
nice bait.
its true, you're just moronic, sorry
what the frick are you talking about, season 5 had the great marco asteroid scheme, had a whole storyline dedicate to Amos and a storyline dedicated to Bobby and Alex and saw the return of an actual Chrisjen story that meant anything
Don’t bother. Season 4 was just about acceptable but 5 and 6 absolutely shit the bed. They try to cram in references to events in later books involving the protoculture despite knowing they’d be ending with season 6, so the whole Inaros plotline ends up truncated setting up a Duarte we’ll never see more of. Amazing how poorly Amazon handled the show after picking it up.
It's crazy how Amazon keep fricking every adaption show they get their paw on. At least the Expanse got GOOD season.
Wheel of Time and LOTR got completly fricked over.
wouldnt surprise me if theyre only making these shows to hold on to the television rights until someone offers them a shit load of money for them
No one, not even amazon, blow a fricking billion to "keep the television rights. WoT had a big budget (for a first season) too. It's insane.
In WoT case I'm almost convinced there is money laundering there, because there is now way it costed that much.
maybe making expensive shows inflates the value of the rights they own?
That’s why they do it yes. Leveraging expenses is a old scam in giant companies. As long as you keep spending money you can keep getting more money. Even better if you have control over the transparency of how much you’re spending.
>Even better if you have control over the transparency of how much you’re spending.
they can probably frick with the viewership numbers too when they try to sell it and inflate it even more
>Scamazon
Wonder if they'll consider starting it back up once they start showing ads on Prime Video.
one of the writers of the books kind of hinted at the show being sold to hulu recently
If S4 is the Naomi season then agreed it's terrible and the show sucked after they got rid of Miller and killed off Alex. I maybe watched part of S5? I dunno I got to some stupid racing against the tide + glow in the dark snails episode or something then dropped it because the newest characters sucked and they got rid of the oldest/best characters.
Drummer still my beltalowda waifu tho.
The slugs were s4
>slugs were s4
ok I don't think I even finished S4 then kek i just literally didn't a shit about Naomi, or her stupid side story about her schizo ex and moron son
She should have been the one to take a random micrometeorite to the head, not Alex.
They did it in post-prod because Alex actor got accusation on his ass.
>She should have been the one to take a random micrometeorite to the head, not Alex.
he died from high g maneuvers you downie
He died from #metoo.
>he died from high g maneuvers
I don't even remember exactly how he dies he just died. That's how bad the show is, and how big of homosexuals the showrunners are for making one of the best characters death scenes only memorable for killing off the character.
In the context of the show not IRL it was random, jarring, and unarguably made the show worse. If he died from high g's as the fricking Roci pilot it's even dumber than taking a random micrometeorite.
They explain it as a stroke caused by a high-g maneuver, like what killed Epstein in that one episode.
Gotta talk about that ride kid, next clue to the case
>Disappears
the show ends with him. Not worth watching past that
i hate the woman
Wa'aw madoodoowinini onandawenimaan Drummer gf
i thought Bobby was pretty QT
This show was always so close to being good but still managed to suck. It had a lot going for it but just never got the pieces together. Foundation is the same, it could be great but just constantly fricks up all the potential
I find Julie and her actress extremly cute and sexy. French and asian where made to breed together.
> French and asian where made to breed together.
agreed - pic related father is French, mother is Vietnamese.
I dropped it after season 5. Partly because of the Alex dying bullshit and learning the show got cancelled, but mostly because of just how terrible Naomi turned out. She's absolutely insufferable and her scenes are so dragged out and bloated I actually started to fast forward during her scenes, something I never do. What the frick were they thinking? She wasn't this god awful in the earlier seasons.
Also Amos on earth sucked balls.
I waited so long for this smug c**t to die, i dare you to name a more annoying side character
how did he even know how to use the power armor in the first place?
He got training from the Brotherhood of Steel.
>"Wo-ho-hoah! Bobs & Vagene Hoss?"
When it turns into a Naomi and muh son drama it turns to trash.
So hamfisted that the little fricker escaped on a skiff instead of dying with this scumbag dad.
basically the same thing happens in the books, he just disappears
I kept getting aroused by that weird South African Asian lady
Hell, no. The fifth season is even worse and the last one only gets good in the finale.
last season does have an insane space battle but other than that it's mostly insulting due to laconia being wasted
Season 5 is worth it just to watch Marco get shit on.
Got a smoother death than he deserved. Never knew his moment of victory was defeat.
And it was girlboss Naomi who figured out how to trigger it. Maybe he didn't just disintegrate. Maybe the ring entities are raping him constantly for the rest of time.
His final moment was him looking towards his son and realizing he was not there, whatever was left of his ego was truly killed in that moment.
The last book was the worst thing I've read and there's always some gay who says different when I bring it up. Holy fricking frick Tanaka was a stupid character.
tanaka is just laconian bobby
>Will never get animated expanse kino with accurately portrayed characters
feel like shit just want a space amazon gf
its over
Made for SS in both ways
In an alternate universe normies aren't terrified of animation and we actually get kino on the reg. So many amazing stories that we'll either never see tried or only see tried and failed.
There is that telltale game
animation is for children and severely reduces the range of emotion characters display. it's also lazy since the actor only has to voice the character and not actually be them
Drummer in a CUTE
Uncanny. Sad breasts too.
Ur a homosexual, shrimple as
get the frick out of our thread
For me its chunky martian
She gets a new girlfriend in the telltale game
>tfw European so I'll never meet an actual Inuktitut or Nunavut qt
>Ur a homosexual, shrimple as
>get the frick out of our thread
Yes, even pregnant she's quite bangable
Secretary General it is an honour
Earth must CUM first
Oh look, its another "SHOW THAT WAS NEVER GOOD BUT I PRETENDED TO LIKE BECAUSE OTHERS DID SO TOO, BUT NOW THAT IS NOT IN FASHION TO LIKE IT I HAVE TO PRETEND IT HAS GOTTEN WORSE EVEN THOUGH ITS AS BAD AS IT WAS ON DAY ONE" thread.
You are a brainless golem, a programable NPC with no opinion of its own and no taste, you don't like anything that doesn't make you feel accepted by others, you are nothing but a goyslop slurper.
What are you five? What grown man would give a shit aboit any of that?
The series ended before the books series did. So you basically end up with an unfinished narrative, functionally no different from if the show had been suddenly canceled. Worse yet, the books they did not adapt were the very best in the series by a large margin. I would really not bother with this series.
It really did suck that we never got to see real live action Laconic supremacy.
The show can pick up and any time they want and finish out the story. They have enough for three more seasons and a time skip. There's no reason to sulk about it and act like it will never get finished when it obviously will one day. This is the one story that was actually finished unlike trash like game of thrones that always promised more and never delivered.
I want to frick the Earther granny who sounds like she eats cigarettes.
>t. Amos
>read the books before I knew the show existed
>tfw none of the characters matched my headcanon
>Naomi being the biggest culprit
No, the quality of this show goes down unfortunately
if you didn't like the 4th season you will hate the 5th and 6th
I liked the 4th season and still thought the last 2 were terrible
>that obvious drop in budget in season 4 onward
It looks like they had a budget of a boombox and a bag of chips to make 10 episodes with
you're moronic, the showrunners have gone on record saying they had a slightly larger budget in the amazon seasons, you have no idea how production works. they actually shot on real locations (season 4 was mostly iceland, season 5 was various locations) which is more expensive than the re-used sound stages that made up most of season 1-3, they also had a way more variety in sets in season 4-6, some only being used for single scenes
it's like if I have to make some sandwich and I have a 100$ budget, I spend 5$ for the knife and 95$ on ingredients, but they spent 80$ on the knife and 20$ on ingredients.
season 5 is just naomi crying and shouting. it makes season 4 look good. i couldn't finish season 5 and have no plans to even attempt to after the alex thing.
expanse was the best space scifi since bsg and they ruined it.
@190245529
trying too hard
I quit after watching s4. It was fricking terrible, but the reason I quit was because 5 was ramping up to be even worse.
They could not entice me with an upcoming plot so terrible. Plus they killed off some cool characters, so what's the point in watching all the morons go at it with each other.
I just wish we could've seen the wackiest books adapted, seriously the alien shit ramps up big time in the last 3 books
And they even teased it in season 6, it's not fair bros...
the show never did the protomolecule stuff properly anyway
Love the expanse
Yeah this show has a nutty downward spike. Season 1 is certified kino. Season 2 I couldn’t even finish because it just got bad. Good to know it doesn’t get better later. Did they ever actually address the line his original blonde girlfriend said where she says cryptically “there’s something you should know” or some such? I’m guessing no?
>Season 2 I couldn’t even finish because it just got bad
watch 2 and 3, you're missing out
OK I’ll give it another go — I take it season 4 isn’t worth it then?