Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
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The Fall of Star Trek (and Hollywood)
Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
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>Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
Writers are stupid and they literally can't do anything except representation/overtly political stories.
They don't know anything else in life, so they can't write about anything else.
I see people say this all the time while the majority of the posts on this board are politically motivated. Which means it's universally true, apparently.
>I see people say this all the time while the majority of the posts on this board are politically motivated. Which means it's universally true, apparently.
There is a political subtext and then there is overt political statements.
We're on Star Trek, so let's do original series.
TONS of political subtext, BUT...they had interesting stories. They were well-written, with good characters and creative and fresh ideas.
AND that series is WELL LOVED, obviously the base for all that followed.
So what you have now is just BAD stories, POORLY written, NOT creative, with only OVERT political statements. Total failure, people hate them and nobody watches them.
See the difference? Hollywood has ALWAYS been political, mostly LEFT with some right elements...but as long as it was entertaining NOBODY CARED. Now it's not entertaining and just scolding / lecturing. People hate that
>the majority of the posts on this board are politically motivated
1. Not even true.
2. Cinemaphile is a discussion platform. It exists to discuss the medium of television & movies. That's why it exists. Politics coming up is inevitable, especially in this day and age where literally everything has been saturated with (specifically leftist) politics.
TV and movies, by contrast, are not "discussion platforms". They are intended to be entertainment. They do not have that same reasoning apply to them as Cinemaphile or other discussion platforms.
Damn, I bet your fat, smug ass thought this was an LE EPIG GOTCHA'-moment, too. I bet you already had planned out which Reddit boards you were going to share a screen-cap of you epically owning "le anti-woke chuds" on. Too bad you didn't think it through, shithead.
>majority of the posts on this board are politically motivated
Because majority of modern media are aggressively political, numb nut
>"Fish comes from cans"
Based brain-injury poster.
I can't claim fish comes from cans, but it assuredly doesn't come from can'ts
Lower Decks is fine and is a fricking love letter to older trek
No, it’s a generic adult cartoon about a diverse lesbian Mary Sue full of millennial writing and hamfisted homosexualry. That’s what you’re left with if you remove all the Memory Alpha name.drops
Who is the lesbian in Lower Decks? None of the main characters are gays or lesbians. Mariner is bi and all the others are straight.
>bi
Just like every other woke western cartoon protagonist these days. I accept your concession.
Grandpa, 50%+ of millenial and zoomer girls experiment with other girls.
And 41% of your fellow troons have attempted a suicide. You should join them.
>brings up trannies out of nowhere
Go leave, brain rotted pervert.
>be a troony shilling for LGBTBBQ+ nonsense
>get called a troony shilling for LGBTBBQ+ nonsense
>this is "bringing them up out of nowhere"
Thabk God there will be no breeding before you're very early suicide.
>breeding
They’ve castrated themselves with hormones and surgery, not to mention that they were incels. It doesn’t matter either way.
>everybody I dislike on the Internet is a troony troony troony
lolololol
this is mental illness
I didn't say that though. There are lots of people I don't like on the internet that are not trannies.
Whoever, it's a entirely reasonable bet these days when people see you shilling for homosexualry.
you made your point. lower decks is gay. lets move on
Two conventionally hot girls getting it on isn't gay. LGBTQ universally hates conventionally hot bisexual girls.
>conventionally hot
your nuspeak is revealing.
>nuspeak
"Conventionally hot" isn't "nuspeak," you boomer moron.
The frick it isn't, homosexual zoomer.
Yeah no nobody uses phrases like that but ass eating zoomers.
And traps aren’t gay either, by the way!
>Source: some israelite blogger said so.
this is troon child grooming btw, zero women involved in the assertion of this "statistic"
How long do I have to stick with Lower Decks before it gets good?
I keep hearing good things, but I still tapped out at like, 3 episodes.
This is even after I was eventually able to get back into the Orville through it's rough start until it became a legitimately good season of Star Trek.
>How long do I have to stick with Lower Decks before it gets good?
Never. It literally just only gets more gay with more brainless action and memberberries.
Paramount is astroturfing the frick out of it online and you fell for the meme. Sorry.
it nevee gets good. its generic adult animation all the way through
>How long do I have to stick with Lower Decks before it gets good?
It's like the Orville, the slider goes from boner comedy to lighthearted TNG lite as the seasons progress. Just sample a few EPS and see what you like, there isn't a strong need to watch it all.
>How long do I have to stick with Lower Decks before it gets good?
It doesn't. That a moronic style cartoon is the most popular on these threads is likely indicative of how new it is - fresh product will be pushed more than old product, unless old is needed ot push new (often the case with trek), and indicative of how crappy any of the authentic new audience is. They aren't going to something kind of smart, they're going straight for the dumbest crap possible.
It never gets good, a handful of homosexuals on Cinemaphile just happen to be obsessed with it because they gobble anything up that has crudely drawn "wife-fus" and hints of shipping
>Lower Decks is fine and is a fricking love letter to older trek
I'm not gonna watch your dumb, degenerate Rick and Morty version of Star Trek. Go drink an IPA at the barcade you 40 year old manchild homosexual
Based
This is a literal troony
>I am le quirky adult that watches heckin adult cartoons
You only went a slightly different route down the adult autism path from self-mutilating
and you spend all your free time litigating the same dumbass argument on an anime (aka adult cartoons for autists) board
at least self-mutilating gives you cool scars you can use to impress chicks by telling them that some dude with a tracheotomy box tried to attack you or some shit
>all your free time
downtime during work
>anime (aka adult cartoons for autists) board
this isn't Cinemaphile
>at least self-mutilating gives you cool scars you can use to impress chicks
"Hey ladies, wanna see where my dick was?"
Mike already vouched for it, you have no power here
>muh appeal to authority
He also vouched for for The Force Awakens, Rise of Skywalker, Kenobi series, Star Trek 09, and Picard S3.
have a nice day.
they were all good, so if anything the authority is validated by making good choices
> *cries sad lonely tears*
Sorry chud, but Trek and Trekies -- and for that matter all popular culture, has explicitly rejected you.
You lost.
How’s The Marvels doing at the box office, troonoid? What about your troony worship Doctor Who specials?
>What about your troony worship Doctor Who specials?
wild blue yonder was good
thanks for asking
>Black person Isaac Newton
>gay Doctor
>good
>Black person Isaac Newton
what can i say, the actor has mavitas
>seething at someone else's relevance over yours
grim
Mike “it has homosexualry in it so it’s good” Stoklasa hasn’t been relevant since we entered the age of Drinker. And unlike that fat frick, Drinker is actually a successful novel writer who’s also getting a movie adaption.
What the cinnamon toast frick is Drinker? We are talking about Star Trek, not Druk.
> Mike broke my chuddy heart! I'll never love again! *sobs*
I don't watch American cartoons made after 1999.
You’re missing out on self-referential humor, derivative art styles, and LGBT representation!
The Orville is a love letter to old Trek with its pacing, stage play direction and use of cliches
Lower Decks is just OH MY GOD THINGS FROM TNG ARE AWESOMESAUCE NARWHAL BACON PIRATES!!! OH MY GOD IT'S ROGA DANAR!!!! THE HUNTED, b***hEEEESSSS!!!
Yeah, they're losing me a bit in the newer seasons. I'm sort of sick of waiting for Mariner to solve the same.emotional problem AGAIN.
But I cannot get into the Orville, there's something about the whole delivery. It's too close to OldTrek and not funny enough to be so goofy. Just doesn't work for me.
>Lower Decks is fine and is a fricking love letter to older trek
lol at 40 IQ TNGeezers thinking TOS/TNG/DS9/ENT weren't political
Absolutely nothing in Paramount+ Trek is as nakedly political as TOS: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. DS9 had an entire episode about MUH BLACK OPPRESSION. And ENT had an entire season devoted to George W. Bush vs. The Taliban.
This
The thing is, Kirk and Spock are essentially color blind to race. And in current year that makes them racist.
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>lol at 40 IQ TNGeezers thinking TOS/TNG/DS9/ENT weren't political
Absolutely they were political. But primarily they were ENTERTAINING. That's what's missing from today's content. It's only political lectures without entertainment.
this, we got both a solid lesson and some star kino in one package, now it's just OBEY DE BLACK WIMMINSZ
So then why does OP lie and complain about it being political? Virtue signaling?
Every time people bring up how transparently wokeshit has infiltrated everything some effeminate, mealy-mouthed little redditor repost the same flawed and outright incorrect opinion.
Woke didn't exist, invader
and subtext =/= sermon
nobody wants your crass identity politics
>Woke didn't exist invader!!! *screams*
NB4 "It's different when MY show does it."
What's woke about it? She isn't some transgender she is an alien.
You are a mutilated mentally ill man, not an alien symbiote.
Also thanks for admitting that my side is normal and makes good things, invader
>I'll be transphobic, thatll show him!
How about you have a nice day? No one thinks you're cool.
Struck a nerve, uh?
Dysphoria kicking in with full force, uh?
Good. You need meds, not sci fi
guarantee there is not one single troony in this thread and the fact this is a go-to insult is honestly kind of weird. Are you obsessed with trannies? Are you secretly a transvestite or something?
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield is a grim, hopeless story about hate, prejudice and how our own worst nature will undo us.
Nutrek be like: racism bad!!
Far Beyond the Stars was about a very talented man being held back by racism, and the emotional turmoil he experienced, how his neighbourhood was ravaged by racism, and how even his white (lib) friends where powerless to do anything about it.
Nutrek: Racism bad and racists are evil and the black writer is the greatest writer of all time and liberates his neighbourhood by being such a great black man.
Do you understand, Anon?
>i need an overcomplicated allegory to know a bad thing is bad
We get it, you're autistic and stupid and need things repeated because you can't process it quickly. Not our problem
If wanting compelling stories and characters instead of some moron screeching atop his soap box about things they can't understand is autistic, then you better get me the moron roller right now.
>then you better get me the moron roller right now.
They're all in use. Go play in traffic, same effect.
You seem very angry about me not liking new Star Trek shows. What causes this?
Your posting style is grating and indicative that you are a neurodivergent aberration that needs to be cleansed from the species. Uncanny valley and what not. The fact that it cannot be legally or conveniently done is angering. Simple as.
I'm gonna mark you down as mad.
>You seem very angry about me not liking new Star Trek shows. What causes this?
It's HRT-induced mood swings, anon
Can you guys try to communicate in something that isn't electionspeak?
I don't mind that you disagree, I'm just asking you to articulate your thoughts better and without a veil of irony.
>"I am actually very calm and not mad at all. Why are you fellows so upset? I'm not upset, I didn't throw my phone with tears in my eyes. Are you not ready for a rational discussion now? I guess I won."
>*adjusts bulge in anime panties"
>withdraws into a cloud of sarcasm
Anime is slop, what now?
>"Well jeez, someone needs to be the adult here. I swear I'm not even that mad person, we're all anonymous so how would you know. I'm a complete bystander to all of this and just HAD to step in."
Why do we have to do all this elaborate posturing?
Just say what you don't like so we can talk about it. Do you think this is how Federation officers talk to each other?
>electionspeak
Ah, yes.
>insert lefty politics into every single piece of media
>"Why are you bringing your politics into it?!"
I'm simply asking you to use words and not election memes. You are and should be better than that.
Use your words, give me some examples of what you don't like in Lower Decks.
I just joined the thread, and I've never seen Lower Dreck, and you're not the boss of me, homosexual.
Well a pee pee poo poo.
That's how you talk, that is. That's you at your most eloquent.
I don't understand, you want to argue?
No, I just wanted to History Today-post.
To be fair, after society collapses, agriculture will require a good knowledge of how to apply pee pee and poo poo.
>Absolutely nothing in Paramount+ Trek is as nakedly political as-ACK!
Yes, that fat b***h having a cameo is nowhere near as political as entire episodes devoted to worshipping Black folks, which TOS and DS9 both had.
TOS also had an episode openly pushing the Vietnam War.
>have a campaigning politician cameo in our show in an attempt to influence the election
You’re delulu
Again, a cameo of some random b***h running for Governor of Georgia isn't nearly as political as ENTIRE TOS AND DS9 EPISODES DEVOTED TO WORSHIPPING BLACKS.
>isn’t nearly as political
There’s nothing more political than trying to influence an election and having a campaigning politician appear on your show. NOTHING.
>I'M RIGHT BECAUSE I SAY I AM!!!
lololololol
Not an argument. See how the troony melts down when backed into a corner.
You fantastic fricking moron. Entertainment is a reflection of contemporary culture, and the Iraq/Afghan wars DOMINATED American culture while Ent was running. Having a season where your fictional characters deal with something similar to what the viewers are processing is NOT as bad as turning an episode of your show into a damned political ad.
Actually using your show as a platform to endorse a current real world political candidate is far more political than a made up story. You still need to go back troony.
>DA PRESIDEN OF EARF
I remember people trying to say "yeah well the prince of Jordan cameo'd in Voyager it's the same thing!"
his cameo was literally 1 second long and you'd have to have known who he was at the time (I'm sure most Americans didn't)
Stacey Abrams has a full-on speaking role and everything.
never forget the traitorous acts of this ugly ass Black person
anon are you fricking high? trek literally always had forced diversity casting EXPLICITLY for diversitys sake, and every other episode was a progressive morality tale that usually involved shitting on right wing beliefs
there are literally entire episodes of trek, twobparters even, where the moral of the story is "race mixing is good" and the villain of the week is literally some racist dude
have you literally never watched startrek?
nutrek is bad because the writers are bad and the characters feel too contemporary in their mannerisms because no one bothered to preserve the nuances of federation, the style in which they are shot is totally different, the pacing etc,
>the characters feel too contemporary in their mannerisms
1960s Trek literally had an episode about space hippies. Star Trek has always had characters who had contemporary mannerisms.
holy frick i cant believe you would post something so stupid
im not talking about blatant contemporary caricatures that appear once and a while
*nuances of federation culture
>literally literally literally
shut up zoomer scum
>trek literally always had forced diversity casting EXPLICITLY for diversitys sake, and every other episode was a progressive morality tale that usually involved shitting on right wing beliefs
So, basically, you're heavily implying that Star Trek has always been current-year progressive:
>Literally
You need to go back.
TNG had an entire episode where Riker trying to save a heterosexual woman from Mandatory Homosexuality Planet was portrayed as wrong and Riker barely survived as a Starfleet officer.
I can't help but laugh at idiot boomers who think Star Trek wasn't political until recently. TOS literally had the first black-white kiss on tv in the 1960s.
kirk and uruha were forced against their will
and TOS also had an episode where they sold women to space miners
Spock was mixed race. Uhura kissed Kirk. The officers on the Enterprise and main cast of the show included a black woman, and biracial alien, a Jap, and a Russian. The second doctor on the ship was a black guy.
Yes, TOS was HIGHLY political.
of course its political but its balanced and entertaining and above all else it is prolife
Don't forget the top two leads were israelites
It wasn't woke
and themes =/= your political sermon
It also has less Black folk and no trannies.
Nobody likes or agree with your identity politics
Yes most agree that progressivism has fallen off a cliff in the last 10-15 years. When George Flloyd died and diversity increased by another 55% in all media it was quite a bizarre and noticeable experience for ordinary people who do not live in San Francisco or California. But back to your original point everyone was happy with a bit of progressivism at one time, but leftists pushed too hard too quick. Now they've ruined entertainment for everyone other than themselves
This is what liars always say. You hear someone say this? They're a liar.
It's money
>this is mental illness
He said while deluding himself into thinking that he’s a woman and trying to strong-arm everyone else into indulging in his delusion with him.
>everyone I disagree with online IS A troony
>everyone who says I'm crazy for this IS ALSO A troony
lol
At what age were you first diagnosed with a mental illness? Be honest, because we both know you have been.
YWNBAW
I expected to hate Enterprise but I actually enjoyed it thanks to Bakula's performance. Remember when actors actually had stage presence that gave gravity and authenticity to what would otherwise be a silly scifi show? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
>The Fall of...
>Star Trek
>Star Wars
>Doctor Who
>Marvel
It’s amazing how every major franchise had been hijacked and ran into the ground just in the last ten years.
With the way that people dance around the real problem with modern media by just describing it as "politics" and the way that companies try to adapt to a rejection of woke, we're heading into an era of very boring movies that have no substance.
The woke are correct when they claim that media has always been political. The problem isn't just "politics". The problem is that wokeness is vapid, ugly, hypocritical ideology built on hate, so it's only natural that the stories that it produces would be the same. They need to hire people with strong classically liberal values who know what a hero looks like and what a villain looks like. When talking about ideology in movies, we're used to talking about authoritarian ideologies like Marxism and hellfire anti-fun Christianity. Pushing liberty and universal ethics that don't discriminate based on tribalism and feelz is a fundamentally different beast.
Slippery slope. You may be well-intentioned but being liberal will always eventually devolve into troony worship (as evidenced by recent Doctor Who).
BTW, just to clarify a bit more, I'm attacking the "get politics out of entertainment" line and the way that it's leading into trying to be as inoffensive to everybody as possible.
If you're going to get back to good stories, you're going to have to be willing to offend the people who call the good stories of pre-woke times "the white supremacist patriarchy". Of course the real life villains are going to be offended when you portray heroes as heroes and villains as villains and undermine their narrative by showing the reality. I'd actually say that the time has never been riper to have stories that talk about these Karen political commissars who hate men, hate people having fun, live to kick up drama, and only have influence because of cowardice, simping, and grifting. Portraying those types of people as evil isn't just a show of ego or a fake narrative like what you get when the woke try to portray a man as evil for asking pertinent questions because mansplaining and then allow women to get away with much worse because muh sisterhood. That's why those stories actually have potential to hit home with the masses and be timeless works of art pertinent to the problems that always threaten the whole of humanity.
I definitely watched the last season of Picard and I remember thinking it was way better than the previous seasons, even borderline good. But I can't remember a single thing about the plot, even the basic premise.
>TOS
women, lmao
>TNG
all life is precious
>DS9
war is good
>VOY
women, lol
>ENT
the future is bright
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD
They didn't even name a high school after him. Just a gymnasium.KWAB
Star Trek has always had a political component, but it was just basic MLK racial equality stuff. It was nothing designed to inflame racial tensions and make people angry like now.
> nothing designed to make people angry like now!!!
Anon, the only sad creature so angry as to be up at 3 AM angry posting about tv shows other people like is -- you. Normal -- sane -- people are okay with others liking different things.
>everyone lives in the same time period as me, i am the standard of common sense and universal morality
liberal solipsism as usual
>Anon, the only sad creature so angry as to be up at 3 AM
It's almost 10AM here sir and I both went to sleep and woke up at a normal respectable hour unlike yourself.
It's 9 AM
>Normal -- sane -- people
They don't like your woke shit, especially if it invades something they like
>michele yeoh returns
And will remain unintelligible. Why does she even insult us with attempting the English language?
>Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
Becasue then normal people would like it, and that's bad for some reason
i think its neat how space 9/11 was orchestrated by a shadowy alien race hell bent on subverting order and taking cobtrol of the galaxy
>Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
Honestly, the issue is not that there is politics in Star Trek, that has always been the case. People who deny this are braindead inbred morons.
The issue is that much of current Trek is political without being fun, though SNW kind of managed to pull it off (for me).
"politics" is a geneeric term
It's obvious what it means in this context, but woketard make a living out of distorting meanings and playing semantics.
"politics" back then were themes, and every story has themes. "politics" now is some crass political sermon about identity polics nobody agrees with.
>but woketard make a living out of distorting meanings and playing semantics.
I agree with your main point, but your entire post is literally doing the same thing.
Nope. I expalined how the same word gets used to indicate two different things.
X and X but crass and turned to 11 are both X technically, but only a bad faith moron would imply thate they are the same
classic trek dealt with socio-political issues that were actually interesting or controversial at the time. unlike nutrek which just regurgitates twitter-tier leftist politics that we've already seen in countless movies and TV shows
good thread
Classic Trek used the episodic format of traveling to different planets as a device to mirror politics issues on Earth, oftentimes striving to provide an empathetic presentation of both sides of the issue while concluding with its post-social issues stance of "that thing is bad and we have overcome it because blah" and layers this on top of realistically presented hard science fiction in a realistically presented environment reflecting what a formal military/naval tradition would look like in that setting.
Nu trek misses the futuristic optimism approach by instead focusing on how humans have not actually progressed and there is not a post-issues future to hope for (characteristic of the ontological stance of contemporary critical theory that the writers had beaten into their heads in college english classes), most used a serialized format missing the potential of the episodic format and how it contributed to the overall structure and purpose of Trek, writes off the science aspect of the show into BS one liner explanations rather than aiming to be able to technically explain how these things work with consult by current day scientists, film everything through the le-epic generic cinematic scifi visuals filter, and abandoned the realistic formalism for quip shit.
At a fundamental level, the showrunners and writers do not understand or care about Star Trek, what makes it good, and what makes people like it. It is just another classic IP being put through the "we've gotta milk these classics people love" run and trying to maximize appeal despite the franchise having been carried by devoted fans that are now alienated.
>Classic Trek used the episodic format of traveling to different planets as a device to mirror politics issues on Earth, oftentimes striving to provide an empathetic presentation of both sides of the issue while concluding with its post-social issues stance of "that thing is bad and we have overcome it because blah" and layers this on top of realistically presented hard science fiction in a realistically presented environment reflecting what a formal military/naval tradition would look like in that setting.Nu trek misses the futuristic optimism approach by instead focusing on how humans have not actually progressed and there is not a post-issues future to hope for (characteristic of the ontological stance of contemporary critical theory that the writers had beaten into their heads in college english classes), most used a serialized format missing the potential of the episodic format and how it contributed to the overall structure and purpose of Trek, writes off the science aspect of the show into BS one liner explanations rather than aiming to be able to technically explain how these things work with consult by current day scientists, film everything through the le-epic generic cinematic scifi visuals filter, and abandoned the realistic formalism for quip shit.At a fundamental level, the showrunners and writers do not understand or care about Star Trek, what makes it good, and what makes people like it. It is just another classic IP being put through the "we've gotta milk these classics people love" run and trying to maximize appeal despite the franchise having been carried by devoted fans that are now alienated.
Oh dear. Anyway......
>Star Trek mixed with dogshit that is not Star Trek and nobody likes
Oh boy. Anyway...
ENT was one big 9/11 allegory, it literally killed the franchise
>there he goes again
look, if you want to frick a troony, go on
i won't judge your fetishes that are consooming your small mind
also
>downtime during work
Do more work you lazy frick. This is why you're bad at your job.
>two more weeks! baggies!
You are objectively bad at your job.
>brings up trannies first
>"what, do you have some kind of troony fetish talking about them?"
Go goon to drawings and try not to think about how your dad cries over where he went wrong.
What -- is this way -- of typing out your -- sentences called?
He does this in every Star Trek thread, is he trying to enunciate like Bill Shatner?
it's an attempt at an emdash i believe
why not use an emdash
>obsessed with trannies
>axe sounds etc
>*yOu BrOuGhT iT uP fIrSt!*
Damning.
>this thread
When did you realize that Star Wars fans have higher standards and lower tolerance for bullshit than Trekkies?
Friendly reminder that Disney passed on Star Wars Detours because they thought it would hurt the integrity of the brand.
But Paramount is okay with putting out stuff like pic related. And Trekkies devour it.
>Star Wars fans were more intelligent than Trekkies all along
No one saw that one coming.
This is a fricked up timeline, I agree. It's Trekkies now who are the ones to say,
>just turn your brain off!
>oh, so you hate fun?
>Star Trek always had fart/dick jokes!
Grim. Digits confirm.
Trekkies probably were, at one point, but the smart ones dropped the franchise a long time ago, and the only ones who remain are the eternal consumers. The Funko Pop crowd.
And it happened to every major franchise of declining quality. All fandoms have been taken over by consumers and troons.
Is this the old animated series?
I watched the one with the Aztec serpent God thing and it was quite comfy.
it's these animated shorts they commissioned that parody the Filmation style.
but they have extremely juvenile "humor".
That's a real bummer, but I won't lie and pretend I didn't chuckle at the simple humor of a screwhead. Reminds me of the kind of humor my grandfather had.
You’re allowed to laugh at it, but it’s grim that Star Trek has been transformed into a millennial comedy franchise.
They went from one extreme (STD’s grimdark shit) to another (pastiche).
Even SNW devolved into pastiche in the recent season. It's like they took the complaints that STD and Prickhard were too edgy, too depressing and went in the complete opposite direction.
Lower Decks is the only newer one I like.
TnG>ToS>DS9>Ent>Voy>LD>>>>>>>>
Lower Decks isn't very political
TOS trek is the only true Trek.
BINARY
NON-BINARY
Honestly Star Trek was always gay. I dont know what you guys are so upset about. The world didn't really lose anything of value.
>Why can’t entertainment just be entertainment again?
Because it's not about "entertainment", it's about indoctrination. The corporate-political complex running western society is using every aspect of "entertainment" to indoctrinate the masses in order to weaken society and make it easier to control. Hence the focus on women given the traits of men, and the demonization and portrayal of men as weak and incompetent, or racist.
It's neo-Marxism, which is and has always been about control, but instead of dividing people by the old Euro social classes, they're using race, gender, sexuality instead. And just like every form of Marxism ever implemented, once the useful idiots are no longer needed by the tyrannical overlords, they'll be lined up against a wall and shot like the rest of us...
>And just like every form of Marxism ever implemented, once the useful idiots are no longer needed by the tyrannical overlords, they'll be lined up against a wall and shot like the rest of us...
At least after the bullet we will be spared your insufferable gadfly hyperbolic jeremiads.
"Gadfly" isn't an adjective.
Noun adjunct
Shut up and eat your bugs.
I like shrimp.
I thought the SNW episode where they are all singing was good. No, I do not like musical theatre at all.
Blessed thread. It was always political and of you don’t understand that you should probably wear a helmet
so brave have an upboat
192823641
this cartoon is obnoxious to listen to and it's obnoxious to look at
Whether TOS was or wasn't political, I enjoyed watching it very much and still watch it. NuTrek however is clearly political and I won't watch it for that reason. Honestly though Paramount has already fricked up so badly that I will never trust them with Star Trek. It's time for the IP to find a new home with someone who will respect it, like Seth MacFarlane
JJ Trek did McCoy dirty
@192823775
cool story breaux
This meme doesn't reflect the reality. Star trek has ALWAYS been political, but the commentary was recontextualized as a conflict with an alien race or a problem an alien race was having (look at TNG's "The Outcast" with the J'naii as an obvious transgenderism allegory, or the half white, half black aliens from Cheron in "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" from TOS) and therefore there was a storyline on top of the political commentary, so if you didn't look that deeply you would still have an entertaining episode of a television series. The problem nowadays is that the commentary takes first fiddle and they forget to write a compelling story.
sarah gadon would have made a great counselor troi and a better guinan