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It’s hard to feel any attachment to the story and characters. Ezra is unimpressive as a flash and we only saw him for 10 minutes in a movie 6 years ago. No one cares about him. More people Attached to the CW version. No one cares about supergirl. There was no Superman and they couldn’t even bring in the most popular Batman. They had to rely on CGI Nic Cage and Reeves
>More people Attached to the CW version.
This. My parents lswore off of watching this just because they enjoyed the 1st two seasons of the CW show and they couldn't stand seeing someone else in the role.
>Ezra is unimpressive as a flash
yeah, skipped through all the parts with just him. if you remove all parts excluding batman, its a good batman popcorn movie.
Batman is no longer a draw
is it any good?
it's way better than any recent MCU slop so yeah
That doesn't answer the question, saying it's better than something doesn't mean it's good.
Is The Flash entertaining?
>inb4 it's way more entertaining than any recent MCU slop
No it's really fricking boring, Ezra is annoying and you have to put up with 2 of him.
I liked it. Was kinda cool to see The Flash able to handle himself compared to in JL. He had to help his younger self and if they had developed him more in other movies it would have been cool. There are lots of problems but it wasn't enjoyable to me. I will get a lot of shit for liking it. It makes me wish Ezra was normal IRL because he is a decent actor.
Was*
you will get shit because there is a blatant media/social media agenda against this movie as evident by the negative pre-release coverage, biased reporting, faux outrage, cherry-picking, etc.
>it's fake when I don't like it!!!!
But that's exactly what you're doing by validating it
Otherwise tell me what's morally scandalizing about that scene or the movie that warrants Newsweek and Men's Health magazine writing an article on it
>But that's exactly what you're doing by validating it
Why does Cinemaphile have so many schizos
It's not 'morally scandalizing', dumbass. It just became a funny meme spammed on twitter and some people think it's in bad taste considering the joke is obviously based on microwaving a baby and the actor has been doing a lot of fricked up shit for the last like 3 years. No one is actually outraged or whatever you're trying to pretend is going on to justify your own outrage.
> the actor has been doing a lot of fricked up shit for the last like 3 years.
allegedly, most of it was debunked by the people twitter pretends to care about or value
its just a turd of a franchise then i guess
Allegedly is usually enough to destroy, the right, actor. And a "victim" coming to the defense of their abuser usually looks worse than if they say nothing, look at the Marvel Kang guy.
>And a "victim" coming to the defense of their abuser usually looks worse than if they say nothing
The Ezra situation is completely different. The parents were trying to put their capable competent adult daughter into a conservatorship to control where she lived, who she spent time with, etc.- all based on stuff they were told by other people. And said people weren't actually credible "witnesses" because they changed their story multiple times after getting into arguments. One of them was a literal stalker of Ezra's, who had been feeding false info to the Dad since like 2020.
It was basically the parents trying to use DARVO on their kid and project it on to Ezra. They were just friends helping one another out, and Ezra was only one of multiple people helping Tokata.
In order for that bullshit to be true, you'd have to essentially say an entire network of people was "grooming" Tokata just to move out into her own apartment, since Ezra and her are just friends who were in a band.
yeah, but ezra is such a flaming homosexual and lgbt preacher that I don't care if his career is destroyed
today it's a flaming homosexual you hate, tomorrow it's someone you like
false allegations hurt everyone in the end, to question some and accept others is hypocrisy and dishonest
>tomorrow it's someone you like
nah that already happened with Johhny depp, he just happened to be lucky enough to have alibis and witnesses. But I already accepted a world where his career was done. It's a fricked up world where brainwashed normalgays gets to dictate things but at least the consolidation prize is that lgbt subhumans also gets the same treatment
And most of it wasn't. Dude was literally going nuts and breaking into peoples places and attacking them.
Don't know why you're protecting a creep like this guy.
he went into the unlocked house of a neighbor that he had been to before and took 3 bottles of wine
Breaking and entering
Theft
.Are you Mizzy?
Are you? The charge was unlawful trespassing, a misdemeanor. not felony breaking and entering or burglary.
>I'm talking about when he was on the island and just breaking into peoples houses and going around attacking people.
His only charge in Hawaii was disorderly conduct at the karaoke bar. So where's the proof of all that other stuff you're saying or claiming?
He's a criminal drug addict, why defend him.
Because the OG Flash does
homosexual supports another homosexual. shocker
That isn't the only house he broke into. I'm talking about when he was on the island and just breaking into peoples houses and going around attacking people.
Legit had warnings about him going out and be on the look out with the locals.
You ezra miller homosexual fans are dumbasses
>i-it was debunked
not only was it not debunked the more people looked into it the more fricked up it seemed
Why are you so desperate for fanfiction about kidnapping and grooming to be true?
Why do you believe these people?
>why do you believe these people
Literally anyone has more credibility than a creepy Hollywood butthole. This tale of a grand anti-Ezra conspiracy is ridiculous given the amount of wealth and power he has when these people are just randoms.
yeah, the great and powerful capeshit nobody ezra miller paid off the FBI to cover up a kidnapping plot
just say you don't know the actual facts of the accusations and leave it at that
otherwise tell me what rational non-suspicious reason there would be for all of those people to be in communication with one another
Frick off shill and dilate, the movie sucks
it's a weird fricking scene, clearly written by amoral, emotionless, childless, jaded LA freaks
It's not even that bad, but to frontload your movie with a weird scene of uncanny valley CGI babies and one of them is in a microwave and Ezra Miller is making a weird unnatural face and there's a woman screaming. It's not a scary nightmare per se, but it's certainly a nightmare and if you woke up from it you'd feel weird for the rest of that morning.
And you'd have to be some kind of fricked-up moron to think that's marketable, hence my earlier summation of whoever wrote it.
>frontload your movie
it's a single scene
In the beginning of the movie. The front. It's also like one of the many climaxes of that chaotic bullshit which already has a ton of bad humor.
But again, it's a weird nightmare scene and whoever thought it would play is moronic. You can't even argue that, you're just reflexively defensive and semantic because I guess you like this garbage because you have brown skin which means loving capeshit and especially DC movies is coded into your DNA.
imagine being such a prudent guy you get up in arms over animated babies being saved
I don't give a shit about it, like I said, it's not even that bad
But it's supremely off-putting, I didn't find it funny, or heroic, or whatever the intention was. You're obviously a brainless moron who eats it up regardless, but you need to understand how normal people think. They find shit like that weird, possibly even offensive, like some housewife sitting there with her kids, or some religious Mexican grandma. Try to think critically, with some perspective.
Who is that scene for? Who laughs at it? The babies look stupid, Ezra Miller's acting is completely atonal, why a microwave? A common story for like junkies is putting their babies in microwaves, it's a story you'll see in the news occasionally, that will be a lot of people's first thought. The woman screams irrationally the whole time, that's always off-putting regardless of context.
No one in marketing, or no intelligent marketer watched that scene. It's weird, nobody likes it.
Won't someone think of the marketers!?!?
The movie is a huge bomb, so yes. Someone should have thought of the marketing team, so that they could've put more Supergirl in this shit, maybe had her have a cool girl fight with Faora or something, shit like that because people generally like Mexican Supergirl and Faora is like one of the only things anyone remembers from MoS.
Instead of spending several minutes on CGI babies.
so people call all these movies "capeslop" because they're unoriginal and don't do anything except by the book and by committee
so now here's a movie that goes against all that to hilarious effect, what's the issue? who cares if it bombs, it's more entertaining than any other capeshit I've watched in recent memory
>so now here's a movie that goes against all that to hilarious effect, what's the issue?
Dude, this IS the quintessential capeslop that is just repeating the same trends. This is No Way Home and Spiderverse.
Those movies were made by marketers to be palatable to the lowest common denominator
This isn't
>nostalgiabaiting isn't appealing to the lowest common denominator
nostalgiabaiting with a batman nobody but youtube reactors care about and no normie under the age of 28 has seen
they bet on the wrong horse
This is one of the most unappealing films I've ever seen, textually and metatextually. I can't even imagine what fricking wires are crossed in your brain motherfricker. It was AIDS on almost every level, the baby scene is just representative of the shitpile as a whole.
There's a lot they could have done, I think Thomas Wayne would've been the better choice, have Batman show up in the trailer, only he's got red eyes and if you look hard enough you can tell it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan, but the big pop would come from him pulling double guns on Flash or something. You'd also have the draw of MILF Joker played by what's her name from the Walking Dead, and the Snydercucks would love that shit because it's a huge nod to his casting.
>and the Snydercucks would love that shit because it's a huge nod to his casting.
Oh, they would. They would go absolutely nuts and shill this movie for months on end. They've been shilling Rebel Moon based on nothing but concept arts and behind the scenes footage.
The marketing was entirely based on Michael Keaton return as Batman, which is something the previous management was investing in. So i think that they missed their shot on how much general audiences really care about Keaton as Batman.
Maybe if the marketing team had focused on the movie ties with Man of Steel and even some cameo with Henry Cavill the movie might have done better.
This was to cover up the Ezra Miller stank though and served its purpose well
>nobody likes it
the opinions of a few terminally-online literal whos on the internet dont way in for your typical housewife. NORMAL people dont give a frick about it because normal people dont autistically over-analyze and nitpick movies like this. normal people see flash saving some babies and they move on. your case however is of rent-free complex
Imagine being such a streetshitter ethnically-challenged IQ sir that this is the best defense of the movie you can offer.
>NO YOU CANNOT SAY THIS IS WEIRD DO NOT CRITICIZE THIS MOVIE OR EZRA
any normal non israelite would get upset that a movie thought this is the sort of idea you'd like to broadcast into a population that takes it's moral cues from tik tok.
>imagine thinking a shitty superhero movie for kids shouldn't include a scene where the hero puts a baby in a microwave
yes, kids sometimes have infant siblings or cousins around, movies used to care about that kind of shit, but now movies want children to become trannies
It's okay.
>Come one baby let's go party
"people" actually watch this
https://streamable.com/sl8f0g
God I wish supergirl hit me with a big hammer like that
i fricking loved that scene, anon
The tornado part was cool everything else was trash
holy christ literally loony tunes action.
it gets worse
https://streamable.com/e8906d
they need to make a movie about the dceu. would be more entertaining than any of their films.
Sorry but that was kino
How did they manage to make the Flash so fricking lame?
by making him a quirky sperg
That doesn't explain why the visual effects are hot garbage. At least Snyder scenes have a strong sense of kineticism.
mostly reshoots and maybe the director not picking the best VFX team
I don't think the director picks the VFX team. All that shit was probably decided for him by WB before he even showed up.
flash to flash
sutting things ups the barbie movie
S O V L
How do you make a DROP KICK of all moves look weak like that? Ezra's gone beyond limp-wrist, that queer is limp everything.
It’s actually pretty good.
yep easy fun kino
It had good bones but was clearly a movie pulled in multiple directions by studio changes, on top of the utterly pajeet tier CGI and incredibly idiotic writing. Good performances by Keaton and Calle, Miller played Alt-Barry well, and the scenes with his mom landed. Everything else was just so off. The baby scene was fricking absurd. Barry's running still looks gayer than 8 guys sucking off 9 guys, it amazes me they have not been able to figure out a natural running animation after all this time. The whole thing comes off as some weird passive-aggressive attempt at tanking a DCEU film years after most people gave up on the DCEU.
Its alright. Youve seen so much despicable shit that this movie, although mediocre, seem miles better than it is. But I really want Ezra Miller to never be seen again as Barry. Its closure nobody needed but there it is and maybe DC can move on.
Frick no
just ended watching it and is really enjoyable, was expecting star wars episode 9 of disaster but ended up been actually a movie
Not really is the worst version of Flashpoint, even the CW version is more faithful to the source material with a shoestring budget and bad actors.
Watch the animated movie instead Flashpoint Paradox.
It’s not so bad it’s funny, it’s just mediocre. Why would you watch this when they’ve admitted this entire universe is dead.
>Why would you watch this when they’ve admitted this entire universe is dead.
This is the dumbest reason to not watch a movie. Who cares if it isn't important to the canon of the cinematic universe? All that matters is if it's a good movie.
The first 30min is like a spoof, then you get barry and barry hilarity, some ok action, then it gets super dark and sad
Way better than expected.
Cgi is terrible, even scenes where it wasnt "on purpose" / "stylized"
>Cgi is terrible, even scenes where it wasnt "on purpose" / "stylized"
it was never on purpose, CGI was bad cause only snyder could do the DC universe justice.
Worth the price of admission at $5 Regal Tuesdays
Regal costs 5 dollars? All the kinoplexes near me are 6.50..
Yes. Perks of living in a shithole I guess.
Just watched it. The story is really dumb and of course I felt this movie was just DC trying to make their own No Way Home with this multiverse as an excuse to bring back famous actors and characters to try to cash in some easy money.
Nonetheless, seeing Keaton as Batman again was really cool. Nic Cage appears as Superman for a bit, and Clooney is back as Bruce Wayne at the end. Its fanservice after fanservice.
Its a fun flick.
Unironically yes. Ezra Miller is a really good actor and he would be cheered on if he wasn't so swamped in controversy.
It's capeshit
You have to be low IQ and gay to enjoy it
Disgusting so many people on Cinemaphile watched this shit.
this, so much this. I literally cried when I saw the CGI babies being put in the microwave. I had to stop the video and call my wife's son to cry to him about it.
I fricking loved how moronic it looked. The initial scene with CGI babies falling out of the sky was simultaneously very well directed and perfectly established exactly how powerful and effective the Flash is as a hero while also looking so insanely moronic it transcended into surrealism for me. Maybe it was because I was high when I saw it but I was still more entertained than I should have been
I liked it even if some of the jokes don't land
I just watched it. It was pure unfiltered Kino.
based
i wonder why nobody but me has compared barry 2 to pauly shore the entire 2nd act is biodome kino
>$0¥ed
Fixed for ya.
NO, IT FRICKING AINT!
samegay
>samegay accusing others
it was decent
Actually highly kino and better than any capeshit I can remember in the last 20 years
*10 years
too much controversy, too high of a budget. Michael Keaton is cool and all, but his Batman was 30 years ago and was never going to be the draw they thought it was, plus Supergirl was just a bad idea.
200 mill was just flat moronic when movies aren't doing very well at the box office
>Supergirl was just a bad idea.
could have worked if she had had her own movie making people give a shit. but no way WB were going to pull that off.
Why no Christian bale batman? R-patz, bale and Keaton teaming up would have been so kino
I can only assume they asked Bale and he said no. He has said something in vein that if he'd be Batman another time, it would be only in a Nolan movie.
>He has said something in vein that if he'd be Batman another time, it would be only in a Nolan movie.
based
>too high a budget
Hard to believe with that shitty cgi
>that shitty cgi
the director said they intentionally made the CGI shit. it was a stylistic and aesthetic choice.
Spider-verse killed it. It killed all the summer releases.
Which is funny considering that the Flash’s take on fate, multiverses, and alternate realities is way cooler and better thought-out than anything that’s been done in recent memory.
>Which is funny considering that the Flash’s take on fate, multiverses, and alternate realities is way cooler and better thought-out
>yo you saving this random woman meant that something that happened before she died or not is completely different now!!
>also people are different people now?????
>And younger / older than even my mom was???????????????????
No it's not
You missed it, son. You missed it hard. He’s not in his own past. He can’t be. He’s in a different world with a different past, not merely a divergent timeline, a true alternate reality.
Which means literally nothing that happened in that other timeline mattered and got erased at the end, congratulations.
Spider-Verse is way better than that.
Why are people acting like Spiderverse is doing Mario numbers.
unironically trannies
Like it or not, its a win considering how little the 1st one made. Out of all the movies being released, homieverse is actually performing well.
The Flush this shit down the toilet
Can you piss in his mouth?
Probably the intent since this seems like a transformation fetish image.
Are you saying that's not real?
1. People hate Ezra Miller
2. People are tired of capeslop
3. The DCEU is over so it doesn't connect to anything now and hype up the next product which is what the primary audience for capeshit care about
4. Zoomers don't know who Michael Keaton is
5. Budget way too high and it doesn't show in the movie's quality
>4. Zoomers don't know who Michael Keaton is
It's hilarious to me that WB executives thought they were going to get No Way Home bucks because they included Keaton.
Zoomers know Tobey Maguire Spiderman even if they've never seen his movies because there's a subreddit called "Raimi memes" with over 1 million subscribers.
While no zoomer has ever heard of the Tim Burton Batman movies. They literally grew up with the Nolan movies, so they never had to look elsewhere.
>It's hilarious to me that WB executives thought they were going to get No Way Home bucks because they included Keaton.
ikr, the dceu was finally catching up cause zack was doing his thing. then they hire ppl that worked on Marvel lmfao.
Zoomers only know Christian Bake Batman they dont watched any Adam West Batman Episode or Keaton Movies they only Larp about Watching all Batman Products
they wasted Keaton's reprise on this shit instead of Batman Beyond, frick WB
A decade of mediocre DCEU movies weakened the brand. Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 will also flop, Elseworlds projects will continue to do well, and everything hinges on Gunn's Superman Legacy
Keaton Batman was like 35 years ago. Nobody cares about that.
The Flash was made into a quirky loser in the horrendously fricked up Justice League.
Nobody cares about that.
Superspic, with no information or buildup, that looks nothing like her original character ?
Nobody cares.
They are total morons for believing this would be a success like Spiderman.
They also brought back Zod, as if most people are diehard Man of Steel fans. Everyone at the top of that studio is delusional.
>bring back Zod in the second DCEU movie, where his corpse turns into a cave troll
>bring him back AGAIN
Boy I sure love capeslop.
>Keaton Batman was like 35 years ago. Nobody cares about that.
Top Gun 2 just did big numbers
Tom Cruise is way bigger than Keaton
Tom Cruise is one of the last three movie stars on Earth and has been in a non Oscar-bait movie within zoomers lifetimes.
Didnt saw Top Gun 1, but watched Maverick and its an incredible movie
>watched Maverick and its an incredible movie
not it isnt lol. in the final jet fight scene there was a female pilot lmfao
The female pilot didn't fly. They got saved by based hangman tardo
have sex
Tom Cruise is still an A list actor which is why Top Gun 2 was so successful
Because Tom Cruise is consistent when it comes to his movies, he didn't give up acting like other actors did.
Top Gun 1 was always pretty shit and it was nice seeing a sequel actually beat it out in overall quality. Also Ace Combat 7 came out and outsold its predecessors like a year before so my guess is people were kind of generally into jet fighters at the time.
i don't even like the first top gun but the 2nd one was just genuinely cool
DC can do nothing right
The studios ruined the DCU from the muted colors, no flights, and the idiots in charge not comprehending superheroes nor the audience at all.
Maybe Peter Gunn will fix it.
>from the muted colors
Literally not a thing. DCEU always had more vibrant tones, contrast and saturation. Just watch Civil war for example, its like they forgot to color grade it and released the log flat footage.
There is a distinctive lack of colors and saturation in the whole MCU after the first Iron-man. DCEU might be darker and grittier, but always had vibrant colors.
Why are you lying?
If you make me post screenshots, and you see that you are wrong, will you accept the defeat? I wont go into the work of actually getting the screenshots if not.
You cherrypicking liar. That airport shots were deliberately greyed out for their stupid bad hero vs good hero boundary getting muddied narrative. Otherwise MCU sticks to its vertigo inducing colors again. Even the pic you posted proves my point, look at how muted snyder' s color palette is and desaturated it is outside the harsh lights.
Nvm I did it anyways. See its exactly as I said. Despise the dceu being grittier and darker, the colors are always more saturated and contrasted. All movies from the mcu are flat, low saturated, low contrast.
You can use the color picker on photoshop if you are too fricking blind. This is not up to debate.
not only this but the phase 3 outline is directly stolen from Snyder's 2013 DC outline
Dude, Hawkeye purple costume in Civil War straight up looked grey.
How they emptied the airport? MCUgay will never had any answer to that
>make movie about the flash
>needs batman and superman to try to save it
The Flash is the worst superhero
>4 day weekend is $61.2M
>4 day weekend
>What went wrong
No nipples and cameltoe on Supergirl.
She looks mexican? Is this like an AI image? Supergirl was blonde in the movie right? If you showed me this image with the words The Flash on it I would have no clue what was going on
homie where you been for the last 8 months?
that roof looks like the hospital roof from garth marenghi's
and not aryan
Mongrel detected.
why isnt she blonde
i dont care about capeshit or comic book homosexualry but even i know the character doesnt look like this
too many movies released in same time frame also not many people into DC
movie was a decent watch (6.5/10) and Supergirl was cute
wish we were still getting that Supergirl v Braniac movie but people at DC are moronic and cant make good choices
>$200 million budget
>will make about $320-350 million
That's a flop alright but not even close to the biggest flop of 2023 let alone all time, i.e Disney is going to lose more money on Elemental
>with marketing and box office split, it needs somewhere between $600-800 million to break even
Sure.
Elemental is in the exact same boat though, with maybe even more spent on advertising
I said it was a flop, not two ways around that. But that's nothing compared to Indy 5, with its $295 million budget and even lower box office tracking
The budget was over $330 million
The budget was $190 million as per Variety
The ~~*offical*~~ budget according to WB was around $220 million without marketing.
It's rumored to have been well over $30]0 million with all the reshoots. Remember, this piece of shit was "in development" for about 5 years. Lol
Massive flop.
>What went wrong?
Ignoring the money. Ignoring how successful the Snyderverse was. Thinking that anyone gave a shit about Keaton coming back as Batman. Cutting down Affleck's screentime. Removing Cavill from the film.
>Ignoring how successful the Snyderverse was.
>successful
BvS got BTFO by a Captain America movie and the true and honest vision of Justice League went straight to video.
That is pathetic homie
last i checked bvs outperformed civil war by hundreds of millions
This. Keaton was a bonus. wouldve been sick if snyderverse had keaton. its a bonus. seems like Marvel fanboys working on the movie sabotaged it so MC stays as the king of the trash and dark superhero movies dont get popular for the big boys like me.
>What went wrong?
Snyder made a bunch of shitty movies with characters they liked
than WB made a bunch of bad decisions so that even fans dropped them
Now they said they are trashing the entire thing and giving it all to GUNN so now it doesn't even matter.
The film will be regarded as a classic after all the meaningless bullshit surrounding it dies down. Post-streaming release, many will discover it.
it will be classic with all the batman moments. That erza dude is just too icky. Why did they cast someone so goofy? Browsed through some Justice League animated movies nd Flash isnt some goofy as character.
Aquaman's opening was 67m and it ended having excellent legs. But I don't think audiences will like the Flash
the movie is as good as Aquaman was imo
How come Smallville has better Flash-like moments with Clark doing cool shit in slowmotion than a Flash movie ? Were those scenes really expensive ? We got one of them almost every episode in the earlier seasons and it was just a CW show.
>How come Smallville has better Flash-like moments with Clark doing cool shit in slowmotion than a Flash movie ?
They were still working with a tight budget Smallville had the right way to do super speed and were creative with it.
Oh look at that shitty CGI that doesn't make the scene worse because the people shooting it understood the human on screen was the most important thing.
Smaller budget directly leading to a superior product.
faster than a speeding bullet
literally the only interesting thing DC has ever done and fans will never let go.
And there had to be a massive campaign and Snyder had to go over WB's heads just to put it out. A prime example that you can barely even force WB to make a worth a shit decision.
PS3 cutscene
Goddam right.
Is this supposed to be the same Batman from the 89 movie?
>Is this supposed to be the same Batman from the 89 movie?
No. Just an alternate DCEU that happens to have Keaton instead of Affleck. Same with Cloney at the end.
Not gonna lie, Clooney at the end had me smiling for a bit.
Ezra Miller was always an unlikeable miscast of a nepo baby, abd his dementia IRL just made it worse
People do not like neurotic people. People do not like israelites. Certainly you don't want to see or hear a neurotic israelite on the screen.
Those morons already shot themselves in the foot by saying all the DC shit related to flash like Cavill and friends was going away after this film, so who gives a shit.
Couple that with the fact there was already a Flash for the past decade or some shit who people liked with Grant Gustin and this is the result
DC was late to the game, never reached marvels height and now everyone despise super hero movies.
This. MCU is gonna feel the hurt too. The age of CBM is over.
Ezra, even before the controversy his Flash is just grating and annoying.
Yup I said that the moment I saw him in the JL trailer
dude gives me the ick. u shud see how he looks irl . Totally pushed by hollywood
I'm so fricking over multiverse and multiple world time travel like you wouldn't believe. 'the rules are made up and nothing really matters' makes me not give a frick what happens.
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>Aquaman makes over $1.1B
>Only amounts to $260M in profit
Obviously I realize the studio doesn't keep 100% of the revenue but how the frick does this work?
Hollywood accounting.
Like how a movie's "budget" is $250M, but the studio hires their own CGI studio and set design studio and bill themselves $50M each and use that as their tax write offs. Similar to how "LOTR trilogy made no money".
If you charge the catering company you own for hotdogs that cost $5000 each, you can keep your budget high and keep all your profits.
Studios are still stupid enough to spend millions upon millions upon millions to market films they know people are going to come to see anyway, instead of being smart and leaning into cheaper online viral marketing. Shit, the amount of free shilling here alone would be enough to carry some movies.
>What went wrong?
Announcing the death of the universe with 5 movies to go.
>What went wrong?
it's the opposite of a good word of mouth. literally everyone is pleading their friends not to watch this dumpster fire of a movie.
for stupid reasons like being offended by a dumb baby gag? lmao
The actuals have come in and Flash made $55,043,679 Friday-Sunday including previews. Not a good look.
>Everyone hates Ezra Miller
>Why would anyone watch a DCEU movie after Black Adam vs Superman was cancelled?
>Super hero fatigue
MCUcks are jealous of Snyder's masterpieces and are review bombing Flash to make it look like more of a flop that it actually is. It's making almost as much money as Aventurds Endgame but Disney is lying about it because they hate Snyder and DC.
Thé Flash has nothing to do with Snyder.
In fact, the movie erases the Snyderverse and erases Affleck Batman and Cavill Superman from the timeline.
moronic shills like you do are desperate to get people to watch your dumb Keaton Batman Toy Commercial.
Batman without the Joker Dont Draw a Dime also Batman being in a MCU like Movie is Cringe Batman should a Street Level Hero
>alienates straight people by not just recasting flash with somebody who isn't an insane turbohomosexual
>alienates snyderfans by ditching snyder
>alienates women and gays by not including cavill
>alienates people who are tired of capeshit by being capeshit
It was doomed from the start.
Now give me your fricking house.
Please tell me that capeshit is disappearing. I hate it so much.
never
no. its getting to reboot
DC superhero movies have always flopped. Their plots and character development are weak and uninteresting. They hype the frick out of them like they did Batman vs Superman and Justice League and still no one wants to watch them.
Batman hasnt been successful since Nolan.
Id like for them to make more fricked up gritty movies things like Joker and Logan
announcing the reboot before the 2023 was a mistake
the fact that Shazam 2 bombed also tells you that
>announcing the reboot before the 2023 was a mistake
This. Announcing a new universe before these movies went to theaters was so incredibly moronic
Plus the Flash was never an interesting super hero anyway
>be guy
>run real fast
Ok, so what?
Not supporting Ezra Miller trash. sorry not sorry
bump
The market got capeshit saturated.
When will you homosexuals wake up and realize all this superhero shit is LAME and GAY? it's made for 10 year old american kids.
WB got 50 years bad luck for what they did to Snyder
it's official: Cinemaphile is now a flash board.
what's your favourite flash scene, flashbros?
I watched it. Flash 2 is ultra moronic and there is an innate pedo creepiness oozing from Erza that you cant disassociate really. Specially every time you see him naked, you know the guy pushed for that scene.
That being said is not even a really bad movie. Better than shit like BoP, Shazam 2, Black Adam, The suicide squad and the average marvel goyslop of phase 4-5.
I hope it crashes and burns, but seriously its just mediocre. I wanted it to be bad.
Without referencing anything
>Ezra
>Divisive universe to begin with
>Confusing continuity thanks to Snyder cut
>Disastrous production with numerous delays
>Gunn made it pretty clear this universe is getting trashed, and his own demands were more fuel on the trash fire of this production
>Effects looked like shit
>Marvel killed interest in multiverse stuff at a record pace
>DCEU never got off the ground, so the only conflict they can really go back to is Zod
>Keaton Batman is really cool but not a draw for most people
>Flash's solo movie, right out of the gate, is a multiverse crossover before he's had any time to do his own things as a character. Flashpoint wasn't even going to be a huge universe reset when it was conceived and yet now it's Flash's only story
How does flash time travel work, can he go back to his 18 year old self over and over to give advice for the prefect life/outcome?
What’s the limiting factor here?
In this movie, yes actually can. BUT if he changes the future too much, he also changes the past too much.
Changing stuff like her mother dying, changed stuff that happened decades before too. And that set that new world into a locked path against an undefeatable Zod.
So yes, he can, but he cant do big changes, or else the time changes backwards and forwards.
Synderverse being taken out back and shot in the head is best for everyone.
you know why they call him the flash
because he is very fast
very very fast
and when you say fast really fast
it sounds like fas
which if you bit your tongue recently
becomes fash
and in korea, they pronounce fash as flash
and now you know why he is called the flash
I am just glad we got more of mommy Traue
Goddamn, the VFX is horrible.
>conflating flawed medium close-up with vfx problems
if anything the fault is on poor framing. notice out every establishing and full frame shot has literally nothing wrong with it and despite for the occasionally shoddy vfx has cool style. there are only two of these close-ups in the entire film and they last about a second each
The visual effects on Zod and Faora faces, the weird effects on the close ups to mimic the kryptonian power of super vision zooming in, and the visual effects of the ships shooting the soldiers all look horrible.
all of what you listed here were to done to the exact same degree in MoS but with muted colors and less hyperrealism
The difference is that in MoS it looked good and here it looks fake and like ass.
Bollywood-tier cinematography
how many fricking wednesday dora xihotil ferrera girls do we fricking need? I can't tell the damn difference and they decided to add another one that's even less different
imaging not liking latinas
The actors got their money so nothing.
>flash has been a TV show for years, nothing new about it
>ezra is a weird looking pedophile israelite
>nobody cares about 90s batmen or other epib callbacks
>nobody cares about superhotelmaid
>nobody cares about rebooting movie DCU when they'll just frick up again
It was a really dogshit movie is probably what went wrong. WB is still fricking trying so desperately to create their own MCU that they haven't realized no one gives a shit about capehomosexualry anymore
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GET FRICKED DC Black folk
This movie feels like it was made to be purposely bad just to make people nostalgic for Snyder.
It's almost like it's a direct followup to ZSJL made by all of Snyder's friend- oh wait it is
What friends? And did it need to look so shitty and badly made?
>willful ignorance followed by pathetic attempt at passing opinion off as fact
damn, anon. just made it way easier for me to ignore you from here on. thanks!
Snyder is watching it this weekend, can't wait for his review
YJK
>NOOO THE CAPESHIT MADE THE STANDARD AMOUNT OF DOMESTIC GROSS
>FLOOOOOP
No amount of gaslighting will keep me from seeing through this artificially constructed issue
I'm not going to watch it, not that it matters, but if it flops it flops.
I'm a big Keaton Batman fan, but I hate Ezra more so I won't be watching it.
It's really that simple for me.
How come only Fiora, zod and the other Kryptonian are super strong but the other ones were weaker and had to use guns?
How come I can beat your ass if we are both humans?
Pathetic shit really
>autists who haven't read comics not only dont understand flash is just as strong as superman
>but you also think this kino looks bad
lmfaooo holy shit he's twirling around like a homosexual ballerina hahaaahahaha
Fricking kino. Reminds me of Speed Racer with the confidence in its style. Incredible respect for honest film making
Speed Racer is probably the perfect film to compare The Flash to.
>same exact tone, color grading, and presentation of style
The Flash just has more emotional scenes. But then again, there's only so much you can do with fricking Speed Racer kek
Wait, wait... are you telling me that the kryptonians were unironically carrying weapons here? Why?
They did in MoS, moron.
They are not at full power because they are still not accustomed to earth's atmosphere yet.
It's amazing how much worse things got
Peak Goyslop
1. Ezra miller is a fricking crazy freakshow who no one wants to watch.
2. Capeshit is (finally) a dying genre like westerns before them.
3. James gunn doing a reset of DCEU makes this a pointless movie in the eyes of the few DCEU fans out there.
rent free
- Sudden violent urges or fantasies about male on male prison rape
people hate him because he's annoying and is a mentally ill gay.
the only people who defend him are other gays that are superficial "appearance first" """people"""
you realize the irony in what you're saying right there, don't you? anon, you're saying these people defending a person's legally proven innocence only care about postulation and appearance while you dumb down the argument and say the reason you hate him is cause he's a homosexual
nah the people defending Ezra definitely DO NOT care about truth or justice or whatever. That's just an excuse.
In reality they just see an attractive celebrity and simp for him despite him being insufferable.
It is completely understandable why the general public would hate him and his antics
these are called delusions, anon. the truth is that in half of these flash threads people have been posting court documents, names, dates, and evidence that point to miller's innocence. they jist think midwits like you are moronic and annoying. stop speaking as if your trailer park ass is above ezra miller.
> trailer park ass
I can already see you only obsess over him solely because of current day politics.
any other celebrity getting shit talked is a free pass but oh no this one has a special gender, israeli AND homosexual status attached to him.
Now any thread about him gets this special obsessive defense force.
nice strawman fallacy, zoomer
Ezra Miller Fact-Check: https://twitter.com/GhostofMeg/status/1620655659627974656
I shouldn't be surprised
It's ALWAYS trannies and women who are obsessed with this gay solely because either his looks or special snowflake gender status
>waaa they posted the actual court documents i wont read them because they are posted this type of person i dont like
Except the people hating Ezra don't care about truth and justice either though, since you think the dude should be in prison for nothingburger misdemeanors your uncle's boyfriend did when he was young yet you're crying over it like he actually killed people
It's one thing to hate somebody, it's another to act morally outraged like he committed some atrocity and got away with it, it speaks to media brainwashing and being unable to separate fact from hyperbole. Ezra would unironically not be a topic anymore if people just got over it, but he lives in Hawaii and Twitter's head rent-free.
every breath a homosexual takes is a moral outrage and an offense against the natural order.
that goes double for annoying homosexuals.
have a nice day homosexual, he deserves to die for being a israelite above all else
seething lmao
Why does the CGI look so fricking bad
reshoots
>$130mil in 4 days is somehow bombing
>still has 2 to 3 months left in theaters
In the 10 years since Ezra was cast I have never heard a single snydergay ever explain why casting a mentally ill troony twink homosexual to play the Flash was a good idea. They cannot explain it because they are moronic and it was a moronic decision.
Believe it or not, it's because the actor actually cares about the character and has good charisma and acting chops...
this is such a good interview
this one is good too
>What went wrong?
This is what happens when one knowingly and publicly backs a woman beater and kidnapper.
If they had a better looking Supergirl, would it have saved the movie?
only if she fricked a strong black male
Yes, and also if it's had female nudity
This all happened because Snyder’s daughter killed herself….
Agreed. I miss the days where everyone here was more collected and constructive and cared about the fundamental, real problems surrounding these movies. Now the board is full of nitpicking zoomers who watch Moist Shittikal and YMS and think they're now film critics, and of people who are dull enough to blindly believe in smear campaigns. Sometime after the Depp-Heard trial is where this began, I think. At least in terms of the commentary on Cinemaphile surrounding these films started to shift.
stop my invincible son
>super they/them on the poster
its a mystery
Don't care about the movies. Don't care if this damages the general public's perception of Flash as a character. Keep normies the frick away from my comics
>Is it good?
It's capeshit. For dceu/marvel slop id say it's in the 2nd tier. Not as good as BvS or Avengers but much better than stuff like antman 2 or iron man 2.
It's a good experience. The humor is le reddit quips. Batman was great. SuperChica is a cute! Flash 2 was funny. Good cameos.
It came out in a time when people are bored with superheroes and the alternate timelines is played out. Spiderman is also about multiverse.
It's worth it. The cgi was weak but it isn't like it ruins the movie.
It's shit and so are you.
I said that but i specified by saying capeshit. Don't you read?
What else is there to watch at the kinoplex. Wes anderson? No thanks I'm not that gay lol
I laughed when Barry tried to get Bruce to carry him like a bride. That was it and only because I know Ezra is a gay.
cope.
t. literally friends with ezra's girlfriend
All bisexual men are gays.
well I'm a bisexual but im a pretty masculine natured man. just because someone is comfortable enough in their own skin to lean towards effeminance doesnt make them gay
There's also scenes where he's carrying himself like that
and another scene with Keaton when they're on the elevator lift and he asks him "how much do you weigh?" is a reference to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1SOHMlH7Wc
They went out of their way to emasculate him the entire movie.
Go watch it for she
is really that bad?
no, it's actually good, but there is an agenda against this movie
other studios are afraid of this film because there's a shifting focus at DC towards artistically inclined films that also appeal to general audiences the way golden age mcu did
I'm bummed it bombed. It's not a bad movie.
Angry Supergirl was my favorite.
I thought worldwide they would like to see the Flash. Hope it has some legs and only boomers go see Indy Jones so some young people can still watch flash week 3.
Don't give up hope, "they're" trying really hard to demoralize people into not seeing it but I still think people will check it out and realize it's not actually bad
what did he mean by the throwing gloves?
Your webm answers your question moron.
He wanted to kamehameha that Black person. The gloves don't conduct electricity so he couldn't do it with gloves on.
Warners do not care about or understand their DC properties and quite likely do not like making films about them.
This disinterest bleeds through into the productions.
its dead to me since i heard the director defended the PS2 shit CGI saying "oh it looks like that because of the time travel or the speed or whatever
I didn't expect this movie to be a big hit but I'm shocked that it's doing just as bad as Shazam 2.
It will do better than Shazam 2, it's already made as much money as Shazam 2 did in its total run and the movie's only been out a few days
they spent more than twice the money on flash as they did on shazam 2
should I watch it or not, this thread gives various impressions
You should watch it and form your own opinion on it.
watch Way of the Gun instead
It's a great movie
I think Zynder is trash and found it kino
Make of this what you will
No Zack, no watch. Simple as