>make great Joker film that shows you can do live action comic movie without cringe childish ADHD fights and crap properly translating comic to live action medium and not doing live action cartoon >lets make more cringe cgi fights in multiverse of timetravel shit live action cartoon like 20 other shits
serves them right
nolan knew how to adapt comic to live action movie, make it james bondy-ish bourne style and not fricking morning cartoon with real actors slipped in
Hollywood is ashamed to make superhero movies, just like they're ashamed to make kids movies. They keep doing it because they make money, but it's all just lip service. Like hiring a hooker to dress up as your favorite character. Even if you give her some lines to say, her heart can't be in it.
>1. Stop trying to copy the MCU >2. Just use your most popular characters (Batman, Joker) at least until people care again >3. Adapt your most successful comics
>Swamp Thing would be kino
there is a Swamp Thing film being made right now and it's a gothic horror according to the director
https://www.gamesradar.com/james-mangold-swamp-thing-dc-gothic-horror/
Wan would be awesome. Magold killed it with logan and Walk the Line was pretty good as well, im just choosing to believe that indy was a result of studio meddling
>everything started to go to shit the exact moment Snyder left >Aquaman didn't flop, but it is known that Wan was reaching Snyder for advice and to see if they were on the same page regarding the direction of the character
Snyder did have his loyal fanbase, so when he left, that fanbase also left
>Just for comparison Gundam had 1.3 billion $ profit this year
To be fair they manufacture extremely high quality low barrier to entry products. Regardless of how good or bad their media side is the injection molding manufacturing capacity is extremely valuable and basically prints money whenever they release anything. It hurts knowing they'll probably never ever release a MG Thunderbolt Acguy
Wait a second, that chart shows Johns as the link for good movies, not Snyder.
...And more or less that women killed the franchise. Are Snydergays a false flag?
Cause israelites keep putting their low interest money in there
All this tech shit is living off cheap momey straight from the printer it never made profit.
Netflix was actually making profit during the lockdown and that made every moronic 60y old suit think they can make billions on their own Netflix clones.
Cause streaming is the new tech bubble where in investors throw money at it hoping the service they have money in ends up being the last one standing after the rest go broke so they have the monopoly
>they back back 100mil from merch, streaming, and physical sales
Did. They did.
They've stopped gaining money from merch a long time ago. James Gunn's The Suicide Squad physical sales stopped at something like 16K.
Don’t forget that they spent a ton of money on Aquaman which might not even get released. Think about all they projects they spent money on that haven’t even seen the light of day
They apparently turned Aquaman into a big joke throughout the whole movie. The Flash post-credits with Aquaman being a goofy drunk apparently was meant as a tease.
Aquaman had a great little arc from ZSJL to Aquaman. Gunn gets his hand on the franchise for 5 minutes and he's a fish fricking drunk. Mamoa was passionate about redeeming the character so it's a damn shame.
It also signals why it's a bit off if TSS was such a flop, Peacemaker and Gunn getting the reins dont make sense. So our metrics are off or corporations can be actively suicidal.
>So our metrics are off or corporations can be actively suicidal.
They gave him the driver's seat because of streaming numbers and assumed it would translate to big numbers in cinemas. All Gunn has done is train people to watch his schlop in streaming.
They're literally out of ideas. Of course they couldn't actually read some of their spec script submissions and break some new talent into the industry, because that would take work and humility and foresight. Doubling down on moron and giving the job to a proven failure is much easier.
You're moronic. Firstly, it stars a "blacktino" so no. The numbers aren't real. And second, sony is panicking. They didn't want 500m they needed at minimum a billion. The worst spiderman movies made more than this one. It's the true flop.
Anon, Into the Spiderverse only had a $384m box office, it similarly had a $90m budget. And I don't know why you think a movie with a $100m budget NEEDS to make $1 billion. You should just be happy it wasn't a big success, it wasn't a flop however.
I thought this was a show on Netflix I had no idea there was a movie. DC just needs to license out some good video games or something because no one gives a shit
I unironically enjoy capeshit but I didn't go see this one because of Ezra Miller and his demented non-binary bullshit. Can't speak for anyone else though
Can someone who saw it explain if this sets up the Gunnverse? Is it like the multiverse shattered hence why the Gunnverse has new actors for Batman and Superman? And Ezra Flash is now stuck in the Clooney universe? I don't understand.
>make great Joker film that shows you can do live action comic movie without cringe childish ADHD fights and crap properly translating comic to live action medium and not doing live action cartoon
>lets make more cringe cgi fights in multiverse of timetravel shit live action cartoon like 20 other shits
serves them right
nolan knew how to adapt comic to live action movie, make it james bondy-ish bourne style and not fricking morning cartoon with real actors slipped in
Hollywood is ashamed to make superhero movies, just like they're ashamed to make kids movies. They keep doing it because they make money, but it's all just lip service. Like hiring a hooker to dress up as your favorite character. Even if you give her some lines to say, her heart can't be in it.
Just give Bruce Timm a dump truck full of money and complete control.
....lmao
That is some fricking awful CGI.
The CGI really is awful, Aquaman looks more like Boromir
PS2 cinematics
>Whedon League Steppenwolf
Fricking why?
Just when I thought the ice skating run was bad, this is infinitely worse
we eating doomchads
wow. i thought everyone was just exaggerating and being frickin annoying when they were talking about the cgi but holy god that is so goddamn bad
I can't even tell if Flash is running backwards or forwards.
that's some good morning sir cgi right there.
that first cut to Flash looks like he's suspended in the air flailing his limbs like a happy baby
That's not really in the released movie?
Isn't it?
so real
>1. Stop trying to copy the MCU
>2. Just use your most popular characters (Batman, Joker) at least until people care again
>3. Adapt your most successful comics
I just saved the DCU
>>2. Just use your most popular characters (Batman, Joker) at least until people care again
that will lead to oversaturation.
Do some other comic genre like horror or fantasy.
Swamp Thing would be kino. I....Vampire would be kino. Zatanna would be kino. Jonah Hex would be kino. DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
>Swamp Thing would be kino
there is a Swamp Thing film being made right now and it's a gothic horror according to the director
https://www.gamesradar.com/james-mangold-swamp-thing-dc-gothic-horror/
I don't trust him, he's doing the new Indiana Jones movie.
Need someone like Ang Lee or James Wan to do it.
I don't trust anybody anymore 🙁
Wan would be awesome. Magold killed it with logan and Walk the Line was pretty good as well, im just choosing to believe that indy was a result of studio meddling
>Zatanna would be kino
This. Especially if Alexandra Daddario.
considering this shit literally costs nothing to produce they are doing fine
Lol?
you have a naivette of a child
They spent over $300m on this movie
300 million is extremely conservative. It's probably 350-400 million.
u moronic?
Budget alone is $200m to $220m
youre literally mentally handicapped, like actually moronic if you believe those numbers
Calm down
the main lead has 0 charisma and they cloned him
Snyder put a hex on them when he was fired
He put a hex on them when he was hired
was it worth it?
>everything started to go to shit the exact moment Snyder left
>Aquaman didn't flop, but it is known that Wan was reaching Snyder for advice and to see if they were on the same page regarding the direction of the character
Snyder did have his loyal fanbase, so when he left, that fanbase also left
and nothing of value was lost
>$138 million in profit after 13 movies
They have completely, utterly mismanaged DC. What's worse, is they have no idea what they're doing wrong.
Just for comparison Gundam had 1.3 billion $ profit this year. Imagine fricking up this hard. Holy frick.
>Just for comparison Gundam had 1.3 billion $ profit this year
To be fair they manufacture extremely high quality low barrier to entry products. Regardless of how good or bad their media side is the injection molding manufacturing capacity is extremely valuable and basically prints money whenever they release anything. It hurts knowing they'll probably never ever release a MG Thunderbolt Acguy
I wonder how Hollywood is going to frick this one up...
Goddamn.
The profits started disappearing after Shazam.
They're not even able to sell merchandizing based on the movies anymore.
Wait a second, that chart shows Johns as the link for good movies, not Snyder.
...And more or less that women killed the franchise. Are Snydergays a false flag?
Geoff Johns is responsible for WW84.
Adjust this for inflation and it's absolutely mental
damn cavill IS box office poison
for every million you think they lose, they back back 100mil from merch, streaming, and physical sales
No streaming service actually makes any profit. And merch sales are the lowest in decades.
if they didnt make any profit why are there fricking 200 of them today compared to 5 years ago
Cause israelites keep putting their low interest money in there
All this tech shit is living off cheap momey straight from the printer it never made profit.
Netflix was actually making profit during the lockdown and that made every moronic 60y old suit think they can make billions on their own Netflix clones.
Because 90% of them are sub divisions of far larger corps born during the Covid era.
Because it's insanely easy to shuffle money around to hide streaming losses. Disney got hit for that recently.
A company doesn’t hide loss in profit for random side projects, it writes them off on taxes
Cause streaming is the new tech bubble where in investors throw money at it hoping the service they have money in ends up being the last one standing after the rest go broke so they have the monopoly
>they back back 100mil from merch, streaming, and physical sales
Did. They did.
They've stopped gaining money from merch a long time ago. James Gunn's The Suicide Squad physical sales stopped at something like 16K.
Literally why even invest in this shit when you could be making billions from video games?
Don’t forget that they spent a ton of money on Aquaman which might not even get released. Think about all they projects they spent money on that haven’t even seen the light of day
The rumors about the screenings are not good.
They apparently turned Aquaman into a big joke throughout the whole movie. The Flash post-credits with Aquaman being a goofy drunk apparently was meant as a tease.
Are they really ripping off joke Thor?
Yes, yes they are.
It just doesn't stop getting worse does it?
Aquaman had a great little arc from ZSJL to Aquaman. Gunn gets his hand on the franchise for 5 minutes and he's a fish fricking drunk. Mamoa was passionate about redeeming the character so it's a damn shame.
To be fair, anon. The same test screenings said Shazam 2, The Flash, and Blue Beetle were good and would make billions of money for WB.
Maybe Aquaman has a better chance.
>going completely in the red once Flash is done
holy shit, Gunn might not even get a chance to make a movie at this rate
So the only profitable movies were Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam.
>it needs 4 trillion boxoffice on Uranus, Pluto and Neptune just to cover buget and marketing.
This meme needs to end now.
You're an idiot. Breakeven is 2x-3x budget. Deal with it.
I quite liked The Suicide Squad, surprised it was such a flop.
I thought it was good too. If they would have cut Margot Robbie out of it it would have been 15 minutes shorter and a much better film imo.
quarantine release, lack of marketing
It also signals why it's a bit off if TSS was such a flop, Peacemaker and Gunn getting the reins dont make sense. So our metrics are off or corporations can be actively suicidal.
>So our metrics are off or corporations can be actively suicidal.
They gave him the driver's seat because of streaming numbers and assumed it would translate to big numbers in cinemas. All Gunn has done is train people to watch his schlop in streaming.
Aquaman made like a billion and they only made 260m profit? Fricking how? How is this system sustainable
>TSS
>MINUS $179M
Why the frick does Gunn have the franchise?
They're literally out of ideas. Of course they couldn't actually read some of their spec script submissions and break some new talent into the industry, because that would take work and humility and foresight. Doubling down on moron and giving the job to a proven failure is much easier.
He was the only one that said yes. Everyone else passed on the job. Even Todd Phillips.
There's no way Shazam made $74,000,000 profit.
Low budget (only 100 million), so it could.
turns out people don't like chinese israelite homosexual freaks
You think flash is a flop? Uh, spider-verse is the real flop.
Spider-verse did fine, didn't make a billion or anything but did fine. It only had a budget of $100m so it making $500m isn't bad.
You're moronic. Firstly, it stars a "blacktino" so no. The numbers aren't real. And second, sony is panicking. They didn't want 500m they needed at minimum a billion. The worst spiderman movies made more than this one. It's the true flop.
Anon, Into the Spiderverse only had a $384m box office, it similarly had a $90m budget. And I don't know why you think a movie with a $100m budget NEEDS to make $1 billion. You should just be happy it wasn't a big success, it wasn't a flop however.
Nice bait but it didn't work
500 million is pretty bad for a Spider-Man movie but it didn’t flop. They only spent 10 bucks on the animation
It needed like 350 million $ to break even. It already made 500 million.
baiting or just moronic?
how is it? the flashpoint paradox animated movie is kino, but ezra was shit as the flash in the other movies so I didnt really expect much.
I thought this was a show on Netflix I had no idea there was a movie. DC just needs to license out some good video games or something because no one gives a shit
No one likes boring white dewds like Ezra Miller. Not even other boring white dudes.
Literally no one cares about the Flash, he's goofy super hero tier like Green Lantern.
Streaming services
I'm so glad that capeshit is actually dead.
How long can DC movies be made when so many of them are flops?
they will go bankrupt and be bought by Disney or Amazon within 5 years
I don't think James Gunn is going to be able to salvage this
The DCEU is a bigger wreck than the submarine that just imploded
I guess Zack Snyder was vindicated.
>Needs $600m to break even
>Will be lucky to hit $350m at the end of its run
How much money will this lose
FRICKING HOW!?
I unironically enjoy capeshit but I didn't go see this one because of Ezra Miller and his demented non-binary bullshit. Can't speak for anyone else though
Michael Keaton is not a Draw Good his Batman Movies are Overrated and Boring
>What went wrong?
James Gunn went public in January and told everyone that the next 4 DC don't matter AND his notes and movies are flops as well
>Ezra miller
>No henry Cavill
>No Nolan batman
And they cast two ezras. Warner bros is truly out of touch.
Most people don't like the TV show so... brand association
I'm a DC gay and I couldn't get myself excited for this if I tried. More CGI slop is all I see in the trailer.
>unlikable lead actor
>meh superhero
>capeshit fatigue
what could possibly go wrong
>directly tie your film to the failed Snyder films
>this film fails as well
Shocking. Who could have seen this coming?
another box office bomb for the snyderverse.
Can someone who saw it explain if this sets up the Gunnverse? Is it like the multiverse shattered hence why the Gunnverse has new actors for Batman and Superman? And Ezra Flash is now stuck in the Clooney universe? I don't understand.
It doesn't set it up.
Ok, thanks.