Why wasn't this film bigger?
How did the release go breasts-up?
I was sure Hollywould would milk the franchise.
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The Golden Compass
Why wasn't this film bigger?
How did the release go breasts-up?
I was sure Hollywould would milk the franchise.
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Never saw it but I gre up in the Bible belt. There was some huge scare about this movie promoting "killing God" or some bullshit. Was pretty funny to hear.
Srsly though, anybody know what the deal on that rumor was? Does the movie involve gnosticism?
it's anti-narnia, men/fathers/religion bad, women/science good, people already get beat over the head with the message your tradition/history/nation is bad so there's very little appeal to it
>men/fathers/religion bad, women/science good
where'd you get this?
I just made it up :^)
from the book and movie. how'd you get filtered so hard? it wasn't subtle.
It's been a while since I read the books, but c'mon. The Magisterium (which is obviously the Church) is full of old men who wants to keep the status quo and keep the truth hidden so they can hold on power. Angels are evil aside from the gay brother of the main villain. The woman from our universe who helps Lyra and Will was an ex nun turned super scientist who, towards the end, is meant to be the serpent to Will & Lyra's Adam & Eve (which is a very good thing here). And other things for sure that I don't remember.
>Srsly though, anybody know what the deal on that rumor was?
It's the end of the 3rd book, the supposed creator god ('The Authority') is killed
>It's the end of the 3rd book, the supposed creator god ('The Authority') is killed
If anyone who complained about this actually read the book, the thing that dies at the end is revealed to have been an angel posing as God in order to extend its own life, and the being that created the dead angel is still unknown.
xenogears basically
Metatron
It's not even directly "killed".
The entity/person/thing itself is inside of a cage and when the main protag opens the cage, it disperses into nothing.
I would normally say it dispersed into dust but considering Dust is a thing inworld, I could be wrong. Then again Dust is basically atoms.
The books were meant to be an antireligious fantasy to combat the Chronicles of Narnia
They literally do kill God in the last book. Lord Asriel is the stand in for Satan and his daughter Lyra is the anti-Eve meant to restart and fix society after God dies. She even has gay angels in her friend party. That said I loved these books. The HBO BBC series is a good adaption, check it out
Your shilling spilled by the end of your post
I liked the show you paranoid weirdo. It wasn't perfect but a decent adaption, especially compared to the shitty movie.
>huge breasts
>abs
>nice ass
>decent actor
She's hot af. This b***h needs to play adult X23
its more about the protestant reformation. they dont get rid of heaven in the end, they replace the kingdom of heaven with the republic of heaven. its about the revolution of personal relationship to faith instead of through intermediary catholic church. like allowing printing of bibles in vernacular instead of a language only the clergy know
The books are anti-organized religion, but the church is the villian, not the concept of faith per se
The religion in the books is essentially gnostism ("god" is not the creator, just the most powerful angel who took credit)
in many ways it's suggesting the basic premise is valid but positing that the currently worshipped god is actually lucifer and god simply doesn't care enough to clear the misconception up
the audiobooks are very good, read by the author but with voice actors for all the dialogue
The books do. The Authority is basically the Demiurge.
The books are extremely heavy handed on the fedora tipping. Enough that the usual moral panic isn't overblown for once.
There's literally quote in the book like "Christianity is a convincing lie"
IIRC they travel to an plane where all the dead people from all the worlds end up
Then they open up some portals so they can go to whatever world they wish and they instantly dissolve on arrival which does something I guess
Also I think the main characters parents tackle an angel into the abyss
The fedora author literally bragged about it being atheist Narnia.
AFAIK the guy who wrote the book version is an open atheist, beyond that the story had nothing to do with religion or atheism.
Kek I remember this. I went to a Christian school and they filled our head with all sorts of nonsense kek.
I never watched it because my mom told me this when the movie came out lol.
The books are fedora pothead bullshit
yeah the books are pretty aggressively anti Christian and gnostic, they weren't totally wrong. it was just the author shitting on christians from behind the veil of some worn out fantasy tropes. it really didn't deserve to become the next Harry Potter or whatever. so I'm glad the outrage killed it in it's cradle. it's not like the movie was anything besides forgettable anyway.
What the frick? The movie and book are nothing like that.
The author was an occultist I'm pretty sure and the Daemon seems similar to the idea of a personal genius but that's about it
The books are ridiculously spiritual and I think the authors atheist shit was purely attention seeking. These books are great and the short stories are good too. I'd just argue the sequel series he wrote is ass.
it was a bad film, I loved the books as a kid but the movie was just shit, the tv show was abit better but still not great and had nogs shoved in everywhere
Looked and felt like a BBC production. Weirdly cheap feeling cinematography. Race bending. Dull design. I noped out by episode 2.
Also would it be too expensive to have a few fricking dogs and cats around with the extras? For a people with animal avatars following them around you didn't see a lot of them.
>Also would it be too expensive to have a few fricking dogs and cats around with the extras? For a people with animal avatars following them around you didn't see a lot of them.
I only watched until they met Iorek and Lee Scoresby (biggest miscast I ever had the displeasure of watching) and I had that same thought too. Yeah, some people have small daemons they can keep in their pockets or around the neck but there are also birds, cats, dogs, leopards, horses, etc.
I didn't know there was a tv show of it
hard to sell tradition=bad when you're living in the bad times that "freedom" created
eh?
It’s hard to say perennial life is bad when you’re living a radically progressive dystopian prison zone.
Anon is a doomer who thinks the world is coming to end because he can't say Black person anymore without there being consequences
Because the filmmakers pissed off both fans and non fans alike. The books were already hated by religious people because it paints the christian/catholic church as evil and authoritarian. When they made the movie they realized they might piss off people who are at least a little religious, so they toned down calling the organization in the story specifically christian/catholic. That pissed off fans who knew it was suppose to be christian/catholic from the book. The people who were already against the books in the first place of course boycotted the movie. So they angered fans for waffling on what they wrote, and the religious people were already pissed. Nobody was happy
So it got shit reviews. Even though it seems like it made back its budget at least including marketing, the taint was already there. That and the way they chopped up the story leaving it open ended for a sequel that would never come doomed the entire thing
Pretty much this.
It's been a long time since I read the books, but I was super excited at the time for the films, because the books were unadulterated kino, especially the ending with Lyra and Will sitting on the same bench in different worlds at the same time every year to remember each other.
Anyway, I distinctly remember the backlash it got from American conservatives because of the religious element, they massively toned it down which is almost the entire point of the story so it just became another bland kid's actiony story with no clear direction/motive. That coupled with the fact the books deserve to be at least 2/3 films in their own right led to their downfall. All because Hollywood just wanted to pussyfoot around what could have been some interesting themes. The only good thing I would say it had was that Nicole Kidman and Eva Green were well cast.
Knew it would be shit from the moment they called it 'The Golden Compass' anyway. The BBC series is much much better, though still a little lacking.
>Why wasn't this film bigger?
>How did the release go breasts-up?
The primary goal was to make a "Harry Potter Killer", not to just make a good movie that might have the potential to surpass Harry Potter
>I was sure Hollywould would milk the franchise.
I take it you're not watching this Keeno on HBO then
It was good and Lyra has a fat beautiful ass, but no one watched it.
>Lyra has a fat beautiful ass
I don't believe you.
They filmed a bunch of scenes from the TV show basically 100m from my front door. Less, even.
Not showing her real golden compasses
more like golden globes
is that even her?
Yes.
Oh wait that's the OG Lyra. Still hot. Keen is more cute tho
lyra, no!
Built for titty fricking
His Dark Materials is controversial to begin with, and then they fricked it up by cutting the real ending of the book at the last minute. Bit of a shame, I really like that movie's style.
Also I just remembered that they cut out almost all references to the church in an attempt to remove any kind of church = bad, which ended up pissing off the actual church because it's not church = bad it's corrupt church = bad
I liked the movie as a kid and it was obviously a kid's movie
They were never going to allow kino to be made.
This movie was the moment anyone who had read the books were redpilled into knowing that movies could never be art and the whole medium would just be relegated to slop forever. Ebert was a brainlet who never read books or else he'd agree.
film can't do dialogue well only quip slop
For me? It was the spiderwick chronicles.
You know the remake is going to be great when Disney sold off the rights to it before release.
loved this book as a kid too many daddy issues though
>breasts-up
what did she mean by this?
Who knows
The third act of the kids fighting an army like they were in LOTR ruined it
Conservatives cried about the movie being anti-religion. Back then they dominated the culture (and yet failed to create anything relevant)
>Conservatives cried about the movie being anti-religion. Back then they dominated the culture (and yet failed to create anything relevant)
Shabbat shalom!
The reason leftists dominate modern pop culture is because they did every movie and show released in the past 40 years. Meanwhile all conservatives did was saying how patriotic was to bomb people in the middle-east.
the reason only leftist shit has gotten made in the last 40 years is because Hollywood is run by a israeli mafia that hates the native culture of this country and has used it's massive propaganda apparatus to attack what it hates.
amerisharts are delusional.
the best selling american novel was Ben-Hur, so it makes sense.
Thou I do think golden compass is maybe antichurch and not antifaith
Zionism?
Atheist themes
/thread
most movie-goers aren't religious anyway
Frick this movie for stealing Optimus Prime's oscar
It's adapted from a book that only exists because the author was immensely seething over Narnia. It's a lame atheist ripoff of Narnia.
After the success of Harry Potter, there were a lot of attempts to start the next big one, but nothing really succeeded. Apparently they all really messed up the source material Remember this movie with our boi Brendan?
no
God, he really was relentlessly handsome.
The movie was butchered by the studio at the last minute. IIRC ~30 minutes were cut from the movie including the entire ending (which meant the entire climax had to be re-edited).
What was the ending going to be?
the ending from the book. Azrael (Daniel Craig) opens a portal to another world, the main characters childhood friend gets killed. Its pretty much a downer ending. It was filmed and completed then cut at the last minute with the reasoning of theyll use it as the opening to the 2nd movie (which never got made LOL)
Dude atheism lmao
Why is atheism such a controversial thing for americans?
Because it's at the root of all other evils.
They have low average IQ.
Religious boomers support wars.
I'm not a christian or an athiest, more of an agnostic really. But i can see and value the power of myth, every culture needs a myth and it will create one with or without a religon. One that teaches you to love and respect each other and to shun greed and materialism is better than one where trans women and are real women and muh climate change meme is going to kill us all unless we adopt global communism.
Their society was founded by a bunch of fundamentalist christian sects that were persecuted in Europe.
Whats the secret of the monkey lady? Im in the beginning of the show...
She's the main character's mum.
she sexo
She is a witch which is why her Daemon can go so far from her body, and also Lyra's mom
She's not a witch, but she can be separate from her daemon. Some Humans can do it too.
What kind of spirit animal would you guys have?
I would have a chipmunk
little monkey fella
Sparrow
These guys dont scare with me around, its rare
Vaporeon
probably a Scottish terrier same as my Petronas
My fursona is a skunk, does that count?
Pic related: my fursuit
A cat, probably. I too hate people unless I need something from them.
honey badger
It was boring and had vaguely anti-christian themes which is why Americans didn't like it
Also female protagonist I suppose
agreed, it had so much soul
The poster turned me off it. I don't want to see magic bears. And Craig is a moron
>I don't want to see magic bears
Armored bears are the coolest concept in the book though
the bear fight was the coolest shit ever when I read the book
Everyone knew in the early 2000s that Narnia and this were LOTR cash grabs.
You guys sure are inventing a lot of complicated reasons why a boring badly paced YA steampunk movie didn't make a million dollars