>Villeneveueueue >Inaritu >Joon-Ho >Sam Mendes >Robert Eggers >Yorgos
All better than Nolan >Waititi >Coppola >Ritchie >Jordan Peele >Rian Johnson
lmao at them even appearing on the top 25
Which is why he's based.
When he had Rachel Weisz talk about anal sex in narration, I was fricking diamonds hard and it forever solidified him as one of the great pervos of cinema.
Denis is more into cheap emotional manipulation while Dolan is just an overgrown teenager.
Both mediocre.
Now Fellini and Truffaut, that's something else entirely.
Fellini has made some masterpieces. I think he's a name thats conflated with boring high art pretense but when you watch them its not that at all. Some hilarious grounded moments that hit on a universal level.
Doesn't matter, you're all nihilistic, hedonistic degens. You'll never have any substance, which is why I've never watched any French cinema.
At least the Italians can be optimistic at times.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You have a point.
I guess that's what we get from battling the English for Hundred of years.
And teh Germans.
Haven't seen it. >Prisoners >Enemy
There's three movies that absolutely filtered me, one of them is Synecdoche, New York the other two are Villeneveueueu kino above. >Sicario >Arrival >Blade Runner 2049 >Dune
All excellent. When Villeneuvuvuvu makes capeshit, it's still superior capeshit to Nolan's capeshit.
>u wot m8. Nolan's hard miss is clearly Tenet.
Literally too smart for the average audience sadly. If it came out in the 70s-80s it would be a classic now.
Nolan >hack who hasn't made a good film in well over a decade >everything he writes is full of plot holes and just insanely stupid if you spend more than 5 seconds thinking about it >has a rabid fanbase of plebbitards who are the definition of midwits and enjoy his films because they make them feel smart >is a pretentious in interviews and unironically doesn't understand how mirrors work
Villeneuve >makes kino after kino >made 3 (arguably 4) masterpieces in back-to-back consecutive years >adapted the "unadaptable" Dune and made another masterpiece that was so good it perpetually buttblasted Lynch gays and made them seethe for eternity >doesn't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences >mixes his sound properly so that dialogue is easily audible >spends interviews talking about how much he loves other people's films and cinema in general
Gee, though choice
't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences
You can swap Villeneuve for Nolan in your first paragraph and everything would hold true. .
>doesn't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences
lmao wat?? The only reason DUNC didn't have a meme tweest at the end is because its a book that was already written. Otherwise I guarantee he would have shoehorned in some meme twist just like every other one of his movies outside of Prisoners.
Not by a single movie but
Nolan single handedly change the game with TDK trilogy
remember everything after that everybody tried to copy him with their "more grounded" franchises and their serious villains
>Guys he reinvented capeshit >We now have le serious and brooding capeshit because of him
At least Batman and Robin didn't take itself seriously. Yes, the shitty, campy, hammy Arnold puns movie is unironically better (and more genuine) than Nolan's capeshittery.
>Yes, the shitty, campy, hammy Arnold puns movie is unironically better (and more genuine) than Nolan's capeshittery.
Hey that's just your opinion man. Even if its moronic and galactic levels of contrarian to the point of.....i don't even.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Defending trash because "it doesn't take itself seriously" is how we got marvel. A generation of emotionally stunted manchildren afraid of genuine sincerity because someone could make fun of it. People expressing that opinion should be lined up and Shot.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There's nothing sincere about capeshit, that's my point.
At least if it doesn't take itself seriously it admits that part.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>There's nothing sincere about capeshit
Maximum tourist. Utterly clueless. Back to Normieville with you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Back to Marvel with you contrariangay.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are way out of your depth in this conversation. Normies gonna norm.
>They've made nothing that people will look back on in 20 or 30 years time
Name one director still active who managed to accomplish this. Hardmode: No Malick.
Tarantino movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about: >Kill Bill 1 >Jackie Brown >From Dusk Till Dawn >Natural Born Killers >Pulp Fiction >True Romance >Reservoir Dogs
Fincher movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about: >Fight Club >The Game >Se7en
Cameron movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about: >Titanic >True Lies >Terminator >Terminator 2
Ridley Scott movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about: >Black Hawk Down >Hannibal >Gladiator >Blade Runner >Alien
Cohen bros movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about: >O Brother, Where Art Thou? >The Big Lebowski >Fargo
I said Cohen brothers maybe, but even that's a bit of a stretch.
Ridley Scott does have Blade Runner, but that alone isn't enough to solidify him as one of the greats.
Tarantino is a second rate imitator (plagiarist) with a feet fetish. He'll be forgotten about the moment he retires. >Cameron >But muh box office
kek, frick off.
Fincher has Fight Club, but the only reason it's good is the source material.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>>But muh box office
He didn't mention boxoffice once. Midwits like you should stick to /film/ and Letterboxd where you can share your alternate reality where Malick is more remembered than Cameron. Yes, I'm going there. Being "remembered" is not about being discussed by 20 arthouse nerds 2 weeks after release.
T2 and Aliens are more iconic than anything Malick will ever do. You can prefer the later, you call it more profound but you're "objectively wrong" as one can get if you think any Malick flick is more talked about today than Terminator 2.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>where Malick is more remembered than Cameron.
He absolutely will be.
If you think otherwise you're moronic.
NTA but by that metric we already have two Nolam films that are heavily discussed despite being 20ish years(Memento and Batman Begins).
Same would be true for The Prestige, TDK, Inception, Interstellar at the very least. I predict the same for Dunkirk and Oppenheimer dedpite both of them being relatively recent.
Cinemaphile is delusional and out of touch if they think Nolan would be forgotten. At this point, it's kind of sad watching anti-Nolantards insist on this despite it being clear long back that Nolan isn't going to be some flash in the pan.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The entirety of Hollywood at this point is a flash in the pan, it's all (or mostly) shit.
Take the Revenant, beautiful fricking cinematography, right? A feast for the fricking eyes. And what is it about? It's about some dude getting mauled by a bear.
This is the Hollywoodification of cinema. Film is a visual medium, but at its core, fundamentally, it's a storytelling medium, because even purely visual films (i.e. no plot) tell a story.
And Hollywood is incapable of telling a good story anymore, if it ever was.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Take the Revenant, beautiful fricking cinematography, right? A feast for the fricking eyes. And what is it about? It's about some dude getting mauled by a bear.
Oscarbait being forgettable is nothing new.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Oscarbait being forgettable is nothing new.
It didn't have to be that way.
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'd rather watch AI slop than any more Nolan "films"
7 months ago
Anonymous
And I'd rather watch Skibidi toilet than any Villeneuve flick but we are not talking personal preference here.
>Any argument about Villeneuve being better than Nolan died with Dunc.
This right here. The movie clearly showed that there is a very hard ceiling to Villenueve's moviemaking abilities. The whole thing just felt so "off" and soulless.
2deep4u shlock vs soulless shlock
Villeneuve has proved several times that he is a titillating hack. Nolan has done that only once so he wins.
>Tenet
>TDK
>TDKR
All trash
I am not a fan of Nolan he's just a less crap.
Dennis seems to be more genuine, Nolan is too obsessed with gimmicks
Villeneuve has real vision.
Nolan does the same thing over and over but includes a lot of cool shit that is actually pointless as far as the movie goes.
So ...Villeneuve, easily.
I don't care for Vilnwev, but him. Nolan is trash
What is the debate? Who is the bigger hack? It’s clearly a tie
nolan is the more annoying hack because he is just so boring.
Mind versus soul. I think Nolan wins but only by a small margin.
>Villenuve wins
100%
There's no debate.
Sicario was his last good movie. Nothing but shit since then. So Nolan wins.
Perhaps, but everything Nolan made except 1917 was capeshit tier shit (including actual capeshit).
>1917
You mean Dunkirk? Dunkirk is top kino.
1917 is Sam Mendes. Who massively underperformed with Bond because 1917 is one of the top movies of the last decade.
Indeed.
I'm super moronic.
>I'm super moronic.
Its Ok all 3 make the same flat dull movies so its OK to get them mixed up.
>Villeneveueueue
>Inaritu
>Joon-Ho
>Sam Mendes
>Robert Eggers
>Yorgos
All better than Nolan
>Waititi
>Coppola
>Ritchie
>Jordan Peele
>Rian Johnson
lmao at them even appearing on the top 25
Yorgos is pervos
Which is why he's based.
When he had Rachel Weisz talk about anal sex in narration, I was fricking diamonds hard and it forever solidified him as one of the great pervos of cinema.
aster is better than peele wtf are these people smoking?
where is Ridely Scorsese and Cameron? And villenuve beating Aronoskvy is a joke
Probably Nolan but neither are in my good graces. Both their past few ventures have been subpar.
Denis is more into cheap emotional manipulation while Dolan is just an overgrown teenager.
Both mediocre.
Now Fellini and Truffaut, that's something else entirely.
>Now Fellini and Truffaut
Is /film/ still a thing? We need it for containment purposes.
Fellini has made some masterpieces. I think he's a name thats conflated with boring high art pretense but when you watch them its not that at all. Some hilarious grounded moments that hit on a universal level.
I give a pass to Fellini despite not really liking him, but Truffaut is a Frenchman.
Frick that shit out of here.
To be fair to Nolan, Memento, Insomnia and Dunkirk are genuinely good. But those are the only ones that are.
We, invented cinematography, and re-invented it latter.
I understand you frustration.
Doesn't matter, you're all nihilistic, hedonistic degens. You'll never have any substance, which is why I've never watched any French cinema.
At least the Italians can be optimistic at times.
You have a point.
I guess that's what we get from battling the English for Hundred of years.
And teh Germans.
Nolan:
>Memento
>Insomnia
>Batman Begins
>The Prestige
>The Dark Knight
>Inception
>The Dark Knight Rises
>Interstellar
>Dunkirk
>Tenet
>Oppenheimer
Villeneuve:
>Incendies
>Prisoners
>Enemy
>Sicario
>Arrival
>Blade Runner 2049
>Dune
Nolan movies = exciting rides at an amusement park. Villeneuve = exciting displays/stories at a museum. It all just depends on what you are more into.
Haven't seen it.
>Prisoners
>Enemy
There's three movies that absolutely filtered me, one of them is Synecdoche, New York the other two are Villeneveueueu kino above.
>Sicario
>Arrival
>Blade Runner 2049
>Dune
All excellent. When Villeneuvuvuvu makes capeshit, it's still superior capeshit to Nolan's capeshit.
>Haven't seen it
Mom gives birth to her son's kids
Runner 2049
>>Dune
All shit.
The only hard miss by Nolan was Interstellar. So Nolan wins.
>The only hard miss by Nolan was Interstellar
u wot m8. Nolan's hard miss is clearly Tenet.
>u wot m8. Nolan's hard miss is clearly Tenet.
Literally too smart for the average audience sadly. If it came out in the 70s-80s it would be a classic now.
Not that guy but Tenet, Dunkirk and The Dark Knight Rises were all huge misses.
Villeneuve. Nolan has a granny fetish
Nolan
>hack who hasn't made a good film in well over a decade
>everything he writes is full of plot holes and just insanely stupid if you spend more than 5 seconds thinking about it
>has a rabid fanbase of plebbitards who are the definition of midwits and enjoy his films because they make them feel smart
>is a pretentious in interviews and unironically doesn't understand how mirrors work
Villeneuve
>makes kino after kino
>made 3 (arguably 4) masterpieces in back-to-back consecutive years
>adapted the "unadaptable" Dune and made another masterpiece that was so good it perpetually buttblasted Lynch gays and made them seethe for eternity
>doesn't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences
>mixes his sound properly so that dialogue is easily audible
>spends interviews talking about how much he loves other people's films and cinema in general
Gee, though choice
't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences
You can swap Villeneuve for Nolan in your first paragraph and everything would hold true. .
>doesn't rely on meme twists or trying to confuse his audiences
lmao wat?? The only reason DUNC didn't have a meme tweest at the end is because its a book that was already written. Otherwise I guarantee he would have shoehorned in some meme twist just like every other one of his movies outside of Prisoners.
They're both good, but not great. They've made nothing that people will look back on in 20 or 30 years time like they do with the Godfather or Psycho.
Not by a single movie but
Nolan single handedly change the game with TDK trilogy
remember everything after that everybody tried to copy him with their "more grounded" franchises and their serious villains
>Nolan single handedly change the game with TDK trilogy
Not that Anon but you are a zoomer that would not remember the dark days of the before times.
>Guys he reinvented capeshit
>We now have le serious and brooding capeshit because of him
At least Batman and Robin didn't take itself seriously. Yes, the shitty, campy, hammy Arnold puns movie is unironically better (and more genuine) than Nolan's capeshittery.
Singer Re-invented superhero films with X-Men. They were considered a joke before then.
He also fricked is share of teenage boys.
I can separate the artist from the butt cheeks.
>Yes, the shitty, campy, hammy Arnold puns movie is unironically better (and more genuine) than Nolan's capeshittery.
Hey that's just your opinion man. Even if its moronic and galactic levels of contrarian to the point of.....i don't even.
Defending trash because "it doesn't take itself seriously" is how we got marvel. A generation of emotionally stunted manchildren afraid of genuine sincerity because someone could make fun of it. People expressing that opinion should be lined up and Shot.
There's nothing sincere about capeshit, that's my point.
At least if it doesn't take itself seriously it admits that part.
>There's nothing sincere about capeshit
Maximum tourist. Utterly clueless. Back to Normieville with you.
Back to Marvel with you contrariangay.
You are way out of your depth in this conversation. Normies gonna norm.
>They've made nothing that people will look back on in 20 or 30 years time
Name one director still active who managed to accomplish this. Hardmode: No Malick.
Scorsese - Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas. Taxi Driver is probably one of the most relevant an important films of current times.
I knew you'd go to Scorcese you disingenuous frick. The only reason he's still active is because he refuses to die.
They still are.
You said living director anon, no need to ape out.
Not that guy, but here:
Tarantino
Fincher
Scorsese
James Cameron
Ridley Scott
Coen bros
>Tarantino
>Fincher
>James Cameron
>Ridley Scott
LMAO
>Cohen bros
maybe.
>LMAO
Amazing argument.
Tarantino movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
>Kill Bill 1
>Jackie Brown
>From Dusk Till Dawn
>Natural Born Killers
>Pulp Fiction
>True Romance
>Reservoir Dogs
Fincher movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
>Fight Club
>The Game
>Se7en
Cameron movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
>Titanic
>True Lies
>Terminator
>Terminator 2
Ridley Scott movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
>Black Hawk Down
>Hannibal
>Gladiator
>Blade Runner
>Alien
Cohen bros movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
>O Brother, Where Art Thou?
>The Big Lebowski
>Fargo
Why are you padding Tarantino with movies he only wrote?
I said Cohen brothers maybe, but even that's a bit of a stretch.
Ridley Scott does have Blade Runner, but that alone isn't enough to solidify him as one of the greats.
Tarantino is a second rate imitator (plagiarist) with a feet fetish. He'll be forgotten about the moment he retires.
>Cameron
>But muh box office
kek, frick off.
Fincher has Fight Club, but the only reason it's good is the source material.
>>But muh box office
He didn't mention boxoffice once. Midwits like you should stick to /film/ and Letterboxd where you can share your alternate reality where Malick is more remembered than Cameron. Yes, I'm going there. Being "remembered" is not about being discussed by 20 arthouse nerds 2 weeks after release.
T2 and Aliens are more iconic than anything Malick will ever do. You can prefer the later, you call it more profound but you're "objectively wrong" as one can get if you think any Malick flick is more talked about today than Terminator 2.
>where Malick is more remembered than Cameron.
He absolutely will be.
If you think otherwise you're moronic.
We'll see it when it happens.
NTA but by that metric we already have two Nolam films that are heavily discussed despite being 20ish years(Memento and Batman Begins).
Same would be true for The Prestige, TDK, Inception, Interstellar at the very least. I predict the same for Dunkirk and Oppenheimer dedpite both of them being relatively recent.
Cinemaphile is delusional and out of touch if they think Nolan would be forgotten. At this point, it's kind of sad watching anti-Nolantards insist on this despite it being clear long back that Nolan isn't going to be some flash in the pan.
The entirety of Hollywood at this point is a flash in the pan, it's all (or mostly) shit.
Take the Revenant, beautiful fricking cinematography, right? A feast for the fricking eyes. And what is it about? It's about some dude getting mauled by a bear.
This is the Hollywoodification of cinema. Film is a visual medium, but at its core, fundamentally, it's a storytelling medium, because even purely visual films (i.e. no plot) tell a story.
And Hollywood is incapable of telling a good story anymore, if it ever was.
>Take the Revenant, beautiful fricking cinematography, right? A feast for the fricking eyes. And what is it about? It's about some dude getting mauled by a bear.
Oscarbait being forgettable is nothing new.
>Oscarbait being forgettable is nothing new.
It didn't have to be that way.
i'd rather watch AI slop than any more Nolan "films"
And I'd rather watch Skibidi toilet than any Villeneuve flick but we are not talking personal preference here.
>Cohen bros movies that are older than 20 years, that people still talk about:
Raising Arizona, Barton Fink
Both are way overhyped because army of moronic fanboys.
Timothée has more screentime in Denis' film than Nolan's so Denis
Nolan writes his own scripts he wins just by that
Nolan woudn't cast Zendaya so Nolan
Any argument about Villeneuve being better than Nolan died with Dunc. Nolan has never made a film so comprimised(including TDKR).
>Any argument about Villeneuve being better than Nolan died with Dunc.
This right here. The movie clearly showed that there is a very hard ceiling to Villenueve's moviemaking abilities. The whole thing just felt so "off" and soulless.
Probably Nolan due to Interstellar/TDK.
dunkirk sucked the midway film was a much better history film from recent times if you're looking for that sorta stuff
t. naval history nerd
You guys need to watch more movies. Who even talks about these two hacks except normalgays
Villenuve wins. He cast Sarah Gadon.
Denis. I do not care for Nolan.