I've seen both. Sopranos multiple times. I couldn't force myself to watch BB again. In the end, Sopranos I'd a better show. You can enjoy both, but for debate purposes it isn't a contest. Sopranos has better writing, acting, cinematography, music and feels more grounded in reality than BB, which goes into cart9on territory many times. Walt is an interesting character to a point but when the whole plot is nullified by toning down Walt's hubris, it all kinda falls apart. Tony Soprano / Gandolfini is by far the better actor also. Just take a look at his work and performances in any movie he's in.
Finally, any show with a dedicated side-kick character is destined to not be as good. Jesse Pinkman is beyond annoying and would've been tolerable if he'd died as originally intended. the 'Science, b***h' shit was beyond reddit in terms of cringe.
>Sopranos has better cinematography
oh no >cart9on territory many times.
apart from shooting people in broad daylight multiple times, the chase scene in ep 1 that was followed by a public beat down, christopher shooting the guy in the bakery, Paulie's 180 no scope on a guy with a knife, Paulie & Chris killing the waiter right after he'd served them with literally no follow up from any of the organisations that would dearly love to pin murders on the mob, le paulie aunt/mother soap opera, the entire nonsense with adriana and chris becoming movie/music producers lmao
yeah lol they wrote the black guy from Fargo out of the show halfway through his plot line to cuck Chrissie. they were gonna have Adrianna frick that rapper before just trying to pretend that whole plot line never existed.
The difference is all of that stuff is to do with the production design as BB cartooniness is to do with the writing itself. Sopranos has more meat to it and is more profound. >IT'S A HECKIN SOAP OPERA!
All serialized content is soap opera, Sopranos does it better because it leans into it more than BB does.
>whole plot is nullified by toning down Walt's hubris
Wdym? As the seasons go on Walt only becomes bolder and greedier and it becomes more and more apparent that he doesn't have any excuses for his behavior; he's just a monster who ruins people's lives as soon as he has an opportunity at a shot of glory. He only ever decides to rectify anything at the last couple of episodes.
I'm saying if he wasn't so unrealisticly prideful he'd have accepted help and a good paying position with his former partner in season 1. Fact that he doesn't makes no sense logically. Not to mention the fact that this whiz of chemistry works as a teacher and part time whatever.
>I couldn't force myself to watch BB again
Literally me. Everything just seems so laughably stupid on the second watch, especially Hank and the shitty family drama.
I agree that the Sopranos is more grounded in reality. I don't think that BB's more "cartoony" moments are too egregious unless you are incredibly anal about that sort of thing. Being slightly forgiving on realism allowed for some very memorable moments. Overall the core of BB's characterization and writing feels very authentic and real. It's departures from realism are by and large superficial or a merely a contrivance to make the plot more interesting. The Sopranos had a few of these as well but was able to integrate them more subtlety.
I also agree that the Sopranos has better writing and acting overall but at the same time these aren't weak points in BB. Cranston is a great actor in his own right and there are very few weak links in the show, if any. I'd definitely still give a slight edge to Gandolfini as a more impressive performance.
I mainly disagree with you on cinematography and music. BB's camera work and framing is some of the most inspired and picturesque that I've ever seen. Not that it's bad in the Sopranos, it just wasn't as ambitious or interesting. The music choices in BB, especially for cold openings, are also genius. The Sopranos theme is fantastic but it otherwise really didn't make use of music in any interesting ways that I can recall.
Finally, Jesse is a great character he dindu nuthin. His cringe moments felt authentic to his character and the setting.
i cant believe no other music in the sopranos stuck with you. >cor 'ngrato >living on a thin line, tracee's theme >william burroughs on the egyptian book of the dead >the stones, thru and thru >con te partiro >public image, world destruction >emmylou harris, heaven only knows >john cooper clarke, chickentown
thats just from the top of my head. sopranos is packed with great music.
For me, it's because Sopranos has no sympathetic characters, while in Breaking Bad, even the characters you star out disliking or are annoying (Jesse, Skyler, Marie) end up ultimately having some sympathy.
No frick this guy he sucks >Beats his 10/10 gf who puts up with his ugly 4/10 rat ass >Gets addicted to drugs, low t >Big crybaby crying about the thought of Adriana cheating, literally cheats all the time.
Hes an insufferable gay and his movie was the only good part of his character. I dont even remember his fricking name
Breaking Bad are like fireworks or the beach. Upon seeing it for the first time, you're overcome with excitement and awe. Seeing it a second or third time is cool but nowhere what it was like to see it for the first time. Sopranos is like a comfy leather recliner you can sink into whenever you like
Breaking Bad is fun on the first watch.
Sopranos is kino and only gets kinoer on rewatches
Breaking Bad are like fireworks or the beach. Upon seeing it for the first time, you're overcome with excitement and awe. Seeing it a second or third time is cool but nowhere what it was like to see it for the first time. Sopranos is like a comfy leather recliner you can sink into whenever you like
I've seen Breaking Bad three times now and I enjoyed it nearly as much as I did on both rewatches as I did the first time. Which characters do you actually hate?
>Skylar
Fair enough, I hated her the first time as well though
>Jesse
Is indeed kind of a b***h but he has plenty of redeeming qualities. He has a good character arc and a great dynamic with Walt.
>Hank
He's not stupid, he's just a midwit. He eventually does figure out Walt afterall. I'll give you that he's kind of annoying but he's more of an in-universe kind of annoying than being annoying to watch as a viewer.
I love breaking bad but the worst scene by far in the entire series are when Walt and Jesse get new cars and they’re playing that bonfire song with cringe editing.
It was none of those things. It was intended to be cool, but it was just reddit and it made zero sense realistically in an otherwise completely realistic show
BB had silly stuff from the beginning.
Bathtub acid, bomb meth, mute killer cousins.
Gus walking around with half his face missing is pushing it, but it's hardly out of character for the show.
I just began watching BB (I'm own S02) and I'm seriously considering doing this. I'm really enjoying the show, but I can't stand Skyler, Marie and the crippled boy.
That's a really hard choice, both are of course the best in their respective mediums. I guess you could say both does one thing better than the other. For example, I find that the camerawork and cinematography was a bit lacking in the sopranos whilst in breaking bad, it was a lot more interesting to say the least. But the characters in the sopranos are more complex and have a little bit more depth to them than in breaking bad. The sopranos also took a lot more risks, whilst breaking bad was a bit more safe. I would say that the shows are about even, but if I had to choose, I would choose the sopranos since the sopranos basically invented a new type of tv show genre. Without it's presence we wouldn't have shows like breaking bad, the wire, shield and mad men.
I dumped it at the end of season 5 when i heard about the moronic neo nazi plot that comes after. Season 5 ending felt like an action movie at least
Sopranos is a boomer friend simulator. Breaking Bad is a boomer power fantasy.
Sopranos is an absurd slice-of-life comedy while Breaking Bad is an absurd thriller with comedic elements.
Sopranos generally has better dialogue but also contains far, far worse dialogue.
Sopranos often has terrible sound mixing, dubbing, and editing.
Sopranos has more realistic character development (barely any) while Breaking Bad is more stylized in this regard.
Breaking Bad is more traditionally written while Sopranos is more experimental - characters, subplots, and storylines often disappear abruptly or go nowhere and the narrative isn't the point of the show.
Both have excellent cinematography.
Both make very good use of music.
Both have their share of fantastic experimental episodes.
Sopranos has worse bad episodes, as well as more bad episodes.
Breaking Bad has a more consistent identity, especially comparing the pilots and first seasons.
Both went on way longer than they should have.
Sopranos is NPR, Breaking Bad is Reddit.
Sopranos has breasts, Breaking Bad does not.
Sopranos has more hamfisted social commentary.
Ultimately...
They're both good 8/10 shows unduly elevated to God status because the rest of TV is just that bad and no one else is even trying. I think Sopranos has aged better, maybe because it feels like a cultural time capsule as opposed to BB, which is stuck in the awkward, kinda-familiar transitional phase of the early 2010s.
and let's not forget to compare the movies. El Camino was amazing apart from everyone being old as frick. the sopranos movie was half interracial cucking and "wake up homie"
honestly i think chase just wanted to make a movie about the riots but the studio forced him to shove in sopranos. its so bad that i cant come up with any other explanation
How the frick was the Sopranos movie so shitty? It's weird, the movie was a solid 2/10 and Sopranos is an 11/10 so wtf happened? Did Terence Winter and Matthew Wiener literally carry the whole show? I know David Chase wrote a few episodes (hell even Imperioli wrote one) and they weren't bad.
Didn't watch the sopranos movie because it looked like shit and I had no interest in it, but El Camino just felt like a bad episode of BB. I really wouldn't care if it was never made its not like it adds anything interesting or relevant.
Sopranos is about a man trying to see if he's capable of changing for the better (and failing) where Breaking Bad is about a man changing for the worst as soon as he's presented with the right excuses. For that reason, I enjoy the Sopranos more.
It’s not about one over the other but there’s an order to watch them: >BB is the downfall of a bitter man into evil and being conflicted over it >Sopranos is grappling with that evil but ultimately just living in it without change which leads to nonstop misery >Mad Men is about the rock bottom and redemption of the bitter man at the very end by realizing it doesn’t fricking matter and to just be happy
Breaking Bad is like a steak dinner at a five star restaurant. Sopranos is like a desperate midnight trip to McDonald’s: satisfying but ultimately shameful
Swamp gas from a weather balloon is trapped in a thermal pocket and reflects the light from Venus making a rare full moon!!! This won't happen for another 8 trillion years!!!
Sopranos is a boomer friend simulator. Breaking Bad is a boomer power fantasy.
Sopranos is an absurd slice-of-life comedy while Breaking Bad is an absurd thriller with comedic elements.
Sopranos generally has better dialogue but also contains far, far worse dialogue.
Sopranos often has terrible sound mixing, dubbing, and editing.
Sopranos has more realistic character development (barely any) while Breaking Bad is more stylized in this regard.
Breaking Bad is more traditionally written while Sopranos is more experimental - characters, subplots, and storylines often disappear abruptly or go nowhere and the narrative isn't the point of the show.
Both have excellent cinematography.
Both make very good use of music.
Both have their share of fantastic experimental episodes.
Sopranos has worse bad episodes, as well as more bad episodes.
Breaking Bad has a more consistent identity, especially comparing the pilots and first seasons.
Both went on way longer than they should have.
Sopranos is NPR, Breaking Bad is Reddit.
Sopranos has breasts, Breaking Bad does not.
Sopranos has more hamfisted social commentary.
Ultimately...
They're both good 8/10 shows unduly elevated to God status because the rest of TV is just that bad and no one else is even trying. I think Sopranos has aged better, maybe because it feels like a cultural time capsule as opposed to BB, which is stuck in the awkward, kinda-familiar transitional phase of the early 2010s.
"If I was a more adaptable primate or one of your regular petitioners, I suspect I wouldn't feel this pain. I guess I, I'd have a wad of cartilage covering the patella, protecting me from this—this discomfort. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, Just Please, God, take that Minister. What conceivable godly use is his protracted suffering to you? What conceivable godly use? What conceivable godly use was the screaming of all those men? Did you, did you need to hear their death agonies to know your—your omnipotence? Mama! Mother find my arm! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy they—they shot my leg off it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. Admitting my understanding's imperfection, trusting that you have a purpose, praying that you consider it served, I beg you to relent. Thy Will Be Done, Amen."
Sopranokeks only have 1 joke of varsity
Breakingchads have a plethora of well refined jokes not to mention its depth in its storytelling and characters
No way you've actually seen the show >Gabagoul >Christopher Columbus >20 years in the can >Grilled cheese from the radiator >Aye tone >15 chekoslovakians >Floor cheese >south of the border >Oh!
@188595681
Did this anon seriously think the point of those posts were to show the characters were supposed to be sympathetic because they were wearing neck braces? Did he really not get they were memes?
But if i were to analyze both shows:
Sopranos: >has (especially in early seasons) that "low budget" soul feel to it >Cinematography and direction is sometimes amateur >But it's more realistic and goofy and comedic scenes are goofy and comedic because it's something that happens in reality, and it holds a mirror to the audience, showing the absurdity of life >Characters talk like real people would talk in real life. To the point it makes shows you watch later seem like over the top dramatizations of everything.
Breaking Bad: >higher budget and experience from staff >bigger ambitions with plot >better direction, tech and overall fidelity
but >cringe as frick dialogue "I am the danger." "You are goddamn right" >often comes off as way too tryhard >goofy scenes are goofy and funny because the writers made them cringe and not because it was intended (on the meta level rather than the writing level)
That's retroactive cope after the whole "Walt was de bad guy all the time" pseudo intellectuals had their say once the honeymoon period for people idolizing Haisenburg ended.
The scenes are played completely straight and you are supposed to take them at face value.
That's retroactive cope after the whole "Walt was de bad guy all the time" pseudo intellectuals had their say once the honeymoon period for people idolizing Haisenburg ended.
The scenes are played completely straight and you are supposed to take them at face value.
Are you guys dumb or what? Walt says those lines after he becomes completely powerless at work, can't even get an audience with Gus, and almost got executed. He's trying to impress his wife by putting on a tough front when in reality he's a terrified prisoner and his wife is afraid of him.
There are people on this board who are too stupid for Breaking Bad, Jesus Christ.
Guy putting on a tough front for his scared wife by growling schizo "I am the danger" shit. That's not supposed to make my feel embarrassed for the guy?
Yes you fricking moron that is the entire point of the scene: a pathetic, impotent man desperately trying to act tough and failing miserably. It's supposed to be embarrassing but Redditors with no self-awareness misinterpret it as badass.
You’d have a point if Walt didn’t masterfully execute a plan to kill Gus with no repercussion just a few episodes later, he didn’t even need anyones help to do it. Walt is absolutely meant to be a threatening figure at that point in the series and you’re just applying post series finale hindsight to an unrelated scene.
That's what I was getting at. Sopranos isn't a show so much as it is a glimpse at the banality of life -- not even mob life, just life in general. It's often meandering, unsatisfying, random, seemingly pointless... I can see this blowing people's minds at one point but watching it for the first time in 2023 it honestly comes off as juvenile, like a Tao Lin novel. Sure, you can write a book where everyone is depressed and literally nothing happens, but should you? Why make something like that when it's already reality?
I'm 27 so I don't really have an idea of what was coming out at the time so maybe it was refreshing as far as TV goes? The big shit I remember was House and that hasn't held up nearly as well.
>no one in Sopranos has an arc except Melfi and Carmine Jr
this is why talking about anything with anyone on this shithole is a waste of time. how the frick can you say AJ, meadow, chrissy, paulie etc had no arc???
Sopranos has better characters and is more influential to TV as a whole but Breaking Bad had better structure and was overall the more well written show.
>new villain of the season gets out of prison >immediately kills/maims some innocent person to let you know they're le bad guy >Tony spends a few episodes debating killing them because it's bad for business >they die in a seemingly random or anticlimactic way >this is trickled out across hours of filler scenes of Meadow arguing with her boyfriend, Carmella being a low-class Republican, AJ being a dumb teenager, all stitched together with some of the worst dubbing and editing in history
Boomers really thought this was the greatest show of all time kek
I like both. Sopranos is better made but I prefer BB aesthetic and setting. The banality of being stuck in New Jersey with a bunch of fat Italians…too depressing to watch very often.
Sopranos and it’s no debate
>implying Breaking Bad is good
Breaking Bad
The answer is always Breaking Bad
I've seen both. Sopranos multiple times. I couldn't force myself to watch BB again. In the end, Sopranos I'd a better show. You can enjoy both, but for debate purposes it isn't a contest. Sopranos has better writing, acting, cinematography, music and feels more grounded in reality than BB, which goes into cart9on territory many times. Walt is an interesting character to a point but when the whole plot is nullified by toning down Walt's hubris, it all kinda falls apart. Tony Soprano / Gandolfini is by far the better actor also. Just take a look at his work and performances in any movie he's in.
Finally, any show with a dedicated side-kick character is destined to not be as good. Jesse Pinkman is beyond annoying and would've been tolerable if he'd died as originally intended. the 'Science, b***h' shit was beyond reddit in terms of cringe.
>Sopranos has better cinematography
oh no
>cart9on territory many times.
apart from shooting people in broad daylight multiple times, the chase scene in ep 1 that was followed by a public beat down, christopher shooting the guy in the bakery, Paulie's 180 no scope on a guy with a knife, Paulie & Chris killing the waiter right after he'd served them with literally no follow up from any of the organisations that would dearly love to pin murders on the mob, le paulie aunt/mother soap opera, the entire nonsense with adriana and chris becoming movie/music producers lmao
yeah lol they wrote the black guy from Fargo out of the show halfway through his plot line to cuck Chrissie. they were gonna have Adrianna frick that rapper before just trying to pretend that whole plot line never existed.
The difference is all of that stuff is to do with the production design as BB cartooniness is to do with the writing itself. Sopranos has more meat to it and is more profound.
>IT'S A HECKIN SOAP OPERA!
All serialized content is soap opera, Sopranos does it better because it leans into it more than BB does.
>whole plot is nullified by toning down Walt's hubris
Wdym? As the seasons go on Walt only becomes bolder and greedier and it becomes more and more apparent that he doesn't have any excuses for his behavior; he's just a monster who ruins people's lives as soon as he has an opportunity at a shot of glory. He only ever decides to rectify anything at the last couple of episodes.
I'm saying if he wasn't so unrealisticly prideful he'd have accepted help and a good paying position with his former partner in season 1. Fact that he doesn't makes no sense logically. Not to mention the fact that this whiz of chemistry works as a teacher and part time whatever.
Sopranos, and it's not even close.
>I couldn't force myself to watch BB again
Literally me. Everything just seems so laughably stupid on the second watch, especially Hank and the shitty family drama.
yeah anyone who has doubts about which show is better should try rewatching them, Sopranos wins by a mile
yeah, Breaking Bad relies too much on twists and action to hold up on rewatches
>BB, which goes into cart9on territory many times.
Absolute truth. BB is anime tier.
The Sopranos becomes better on rewatches.
Breaking Bad becomes worse.
It really is no contest.
I agree that the Sopranos is more grounded in reality. I don't think that BB's more "cartoony" moments are too egregious unless you are incredibly anal about that sort of thing. Being slightly forgiving on realism allowed for some very memorable moments. Overall the core of BB's characterization and writing feels very authentic and real. It's departures from realism are by and large superficial or a merely a contrivance to make the plot more interesting. The Sopranos had a few of these as well but was able to integrate them more subtlety.
I also agree that the Sopranos has better writing and acting overall but at the same time these aren't weak points in BB. Cranston is a great actor in his own right and there are very few weak links in the show, if any. I'd definitely still give a slight edge to Gandolfini as a more impressive performance.
I mainly disagree with you on cinematography and music. BB's camera work and framing is some of the most inspired and picturesque that I've ever seen. Not that it's bad in the Sopranos, it just wasn't as ambitious or interesting. The music choices in BB, especially for cold openings, are also genius. The Sopranos theme is fantastic but it otherwise really didn't make use of music in any interesting ways that I can recall.
Finally, Jesse is a great character he dindu nuthin. His cringe moments felt authentic to his character and the setting.
>Finally, Jesse is a great character he dindu nuthin.
i cant believe no other music in the sopranos stuck with you.
>cor 'ngrato
>living on a thin line, tracee's theme
>william burroughs on the egyptian book of the dead
>the stones, thru and thru
>con te partiro
>public image, world destruction
>emmylou harris, heaven only knows
>john cooper clarke, chickentown
thats just from the top of my head. sopranos is packed with great music.
and how could you possibly forget defiler?
Frick me, you're right actually
>slop v. slop
>we're with heisenberg
I like both 🙂
I like Breaking Bad better.
Simple as.
For me, it's because Sopranos has no sympathetic characters, while in Breaking Bad, even the characters you star out disliking or are annoying (Jesse, Skyler, Marie) end up ultimately having some sympathy.
>Sopranos has no sympathetic characters
>Aww Le heckin neck brace!
Phil did nothing wrong.
He may be the worst "soldier” I have seen in media
>I am going to see that volcano
name another character as deadly with a gun as him
Is that slang for a needle I don't know about?
>beats his fiance and kills a dog
His fiance was a traitor and the dog crawled under him for warmth and smothered herself.
Wait wait wait... he killed the dog? What he do that for?
Nothing wrong with hitting a huwore, and he didn't kill the dog it must have crawled under him for warmth.
Exactly. Happens all the time.
No frick this guy he sucks
>Beats his 10/10 gf who puts up with his ugly 4/10 rat ass
>Gets addicted to drugs, low t
>Big crybaby crying about the thought of Adriana cheating, literally cheats all the time.
Hes an insufferable gay and his movie was the only good part of his character. I dont even remember his fricking name
Most of the characters were unlikeable. Carmella especially.
Yeah but I mostly remember him being a whiny butthole. Glad Tony killed him
should have turned states evidence tbh
>but he woulda been betraying tha family
>that killed his girlfriend and him
>Hey Marty! I loved Kundun!
>filthy junkie, disgusting
>constantly beats his 10/10 fiance
>nepo baby
>moron
is this character sympathetic??
You sound low IQ
>Sopranos has no sympathetic characters
20 frickin' years
I hated how the show refused to tell us why was angry all the time.
20 years in the can
>I like both 🙂
Breaking Bad are like fireworks or the beach. Upon seeing it for the first time, you're overcome with excitement and awe. Seeing it a second or third time is cool but nowhere what it was like to see it for the first time. Sopranos is like a comfy leather recliner you can sink into whenever you like
Apt analogy.
Breaking Bad breaks down upon multiple viewings and you just start hating characters more and more.
I've seen Breaking Bad three times now and I enjoyed it nearly as much as I did on both rewatches as I did the first time. Which characters do you actually hate?
>Which characters do you actually hate?
Skylar has way too much fricking screentime.
Off the top of my head:
Skylar, naturally because she's inconsistent.
Jesse is a b***h that runs his course after the first season.
Hank for his stupidity and how annoying he is.
>Skylar
Fair enough, I hated her the first time as well though
>Jesse
Is indeed kind of a b***h but he has plenty of redeeming qualities. He has a good character arc and a great dynamic with Walt.
>Hank
He's not stupid, he's just a midwit. He eventually does figure out Walt afterall. I'll give you that he's kind of annoying but he's more of an in-universe kind of annoying than being annoying to watch as a viewer.
Comparing sopranos to breaking bad is like comparing Tarkovsky to Michael Bay
sopranos is just boring
Breaking Bad is fun on the first watch.
Sopranos is kino and only gets kinoer on rewatches
How the frick do you defend this?
I love breaking bad but the worst scene by far in the entire series are when Walt and Jesse get new cars and they’re playing that bonfire song with cringe editing.
It was funny, cool and shocking at the same time. It's a perfect fit for a black comedy with pulp elements.
It was none of those things. It was intended to be cool, but it was just reddit and it made zero sense realistically in an otherwise completely realistic show
>it was just reddit
implying this shithole isn't reddit in disguise anyways
BB had silly stuff from the beginning.
Bathtub acid, bomb meth, mute killer cousins.
Gus walking around with half his face missing is pushing it, but it's hardly out of character for the show.
Breaking Bad is a Peter Parker power fantasy for bitter nerds.
spoken like a clueless femoid
You guys skip every Skylar & Marie scene right?
Carmela + Ro > Skylar + Marie
Marie is based, but yeah i skip Skylar + Ted scenes
I just began watching BB (I'm own S02) and I'm seriously considering doing this. I'm really enjoying the show, but I can't stand Skyler, Marie and the crippled boy.
do it, the only good thing to come out of the family plot is the rape scene
AJ is an actual character while Walt Jr. is just an albatross on crutches.
>mfw (my face when) le pizza is on le roof
>Sopranos has that disgusting fat homosexual plotline that lasts an entire season
>Breaking bad doesn't
Breaking bad wins
The Vito subplot is the perfect example of what Breaking Bad could never pull off. Breaking Bad didn't have depth for something like that.
>The Vito subplot is the perfect example of what Breaking Bad could never pull off. Breaking Bad didn't have depth for something like that.
Literally a Hitchwiener reference.
Meanwhile BrBa spends 5 seasons poorly trying to imitate said director
BB is for the "Oh My Science" crowd.
Sopranos is shit compared to Breaking Bad. It’s not even a debate at all. Tomato israelites will always be cringe. HBO dramas will always be overrated
Sopranos cuz it's more memable and has better memes than BB which has been co-opted by zoomers
That's a really hard choice, both are of course the best in their respective mediums. I guess you could say both does one thing better than the other. For example, I find that the camerawork and cinematography was a bit lacking in the sopranos whilst in breaking bad, it was a lot more interesting to say the least. But the characters in the sopranos are more complex and have a little bit more depth to them than in breaking bad. The sopranos also took a lot more risks, whilst breaking bad was a bit more safe. I would say that the shows are about even, but if I had to choose, I would choose the sopranos since the sopranos basically invented a new type of tv show genre. Without it's presence we wouldn't have shows like breaking bad, the wire, shield and mad men.
The Wire
Sopranos is far more rewatchable as it's more of a comedy.
BB is an achievement, but watching it more than a few times is fricking bleak.
>Suddenly Neo-Nazi out of nowhere!
It wouldn't make sense for a White prison gang to not have white supremicist tattoos.
Breaking bad was only good watching it week by week. The cliff hangers and talking about it the next day were 90% of the fun
Rewatching it now is so fricking slow and boring whereas sopranos you just pick up more connections every watch
I binged it and literally couldn’t finish the final season. Too boring
I dumped it at the end of season 5 when i heard about the moronic neo nazi plot that comes after. Season 5 ending felt like an action movie at least
horrible spacing, yummy picture
Sopranos without a doubt.But I do like the 2013 feel BrBa has. Reminds me of good times playing Gta V on release.
Breaking Bad mogs and it's not even close.
5 course meal vs big mac menu
imagine how kino it would have been for Sopranos and BB to do a crossover season.
No, no, no! You're done! Not my call.
Sopranos because of Ralphie
and let's not forget to compare the movies. El Camino was amazing apart from everyone being old as frick. the sopranos movie was half interracial cucking and "wake up homie"
honestly i think chase just wanted to make a movie about the riots but the studio forced him to shove in sopranos. its so bad that i cant come up with any other explanation
How the frick was the Sopranos movie so shitty? It's weird, the movie was a solid 2/10 and Sopranos is an 11/10 so wtf happened? Did Terence Winter and Matthew Wiener literally carry the whole show? I know David Chase wrote a few episodes (hell even Imperioli wrote one) and they weren't bad.
Didn't watch the sopranos movie because it looked like shit and I had no interest in it, but El Camino just felt like a bad episode of BB. I really wouldn't care if it was never made its not like it adds anything interesting or relevant.
Sopranos is about a man trying to see if he's capable of changing for the better (and failing) where Breaking Bad is about a man changing for the worst as soon as he's presented with the right excuses. For that reason, I enjoy the Sopranos more.
Tony at no point ever tried to change for the better. he only went to therapy so his panic attacks would stop.
That's a goodthing.
Movies now want to make panic attacks a normal.
It’s not about one over the other but there’s an order to watch them:
>BB is the downfall of a bitter man into evil and being conflicted over it
>Sopranos is grappling with that evil but ultimately just living in it without change which leads to nonstop misery
>Mad Men is about the rock bottom and redemption of the bitter man at the very end by realizing it doesn’t fricking matter and to just be happy
BB is about how having a wife with an ugly face pushes some men to extreme measures.
Both being highly overrated, sopranos I guess was better by a slim margin.
Breaking Bad is like a steak dinner at a five star restaurant. Sopranos is like a desperate midnight trip to McDonald’s: satisfying but ultimately shameful
>Breaking Bad is like a 5 star meal
Holy kek
Do breaking badlets really?
Sopranos has preternatural/supernatural elements.
Breaking Bad doesn't.
>breaking bad doesn't
That's stoner van art.
notice pink bear
Explain this
Swamp gas from a weather balloon is trapped in a thermal pocket and reflects the light from Venus making a rare full moon!!! This won't happen for another 8 trillion years!!!
breaking bad. I hated every character in sopranos.
You just know Holly has a bunch of health problems because of Skyler's dumpster womb.
>Skyler's IQ skyrockets when the plot demands.
He was a better boss than Fringe.
Although mostly annoying…I must say…
>you can see the outline of her…
Breaking Bad is just The Sopranos lite
If not for Sopranos, there would be no Breaking Bad,
how is it even a debate? are you still a manchild?
Sopranos is a boomer friend simulator. Breaking Bad is a boomer power fantasy.
Sopranos is an absurd slice-of-life comedy while Breaking Bad is an absurd thriller with comedic elements.
Sopranos generally has better dialogue but also contains far, far worse dialogue.
Sopranos often has terrible sound mixing, dubbing, and editing.
Sopranos has more realistic character development (barely any) while Breaking Bad is more stylized in this regard.
Breaking Bad is more traditionally written while Sopranos is more experimental - characters, subplots, and storylines often disappear abruptly or go nowhere and the narrative isn't the point of the show.
Both have excellent cinematography.
Both make very good use of music.
Both have their share of fantastic experimental episodes.
Sopranos has worse bad episodes, as well as more bad episodes.
Breaking Bad has a more consistent identity, especially comparing the pilots and first seasons.
Both went on way longer than they should have.
Sopranos is NPR, Breaking Bad is Reddit.
Sopranos has breasts, Breaking Bad does not.
Sopranos has more hamfisted social commentary.
Ultimately...
They're both good 8/10 shows unduly elevated to God status because the rest of TV is just that bad and no one else is even trying. I think Sopranos has aged better, maybe because it feels like a cultural time capsule as opposed to BB, which is stuck in the awkward, kinda-familiar transitional phase of the early 2010s.
>Which one is better
The Shield
I hate what he did to Ronnie, and Lem AND SHANE. It is too bad that dayquil-nyquil eyed detective didn't get him.
you guys can jerk each other off while you watch your midwit show
oh come on the show is badass sopranos got old real fast
Both are shit compared to the true superior kino
"If I was a more adaptable primate or one of your regular petitioners, I suspect I wouldn't feel this pain. I guess I, I'd have a wad of cartilage covering the patella, protecting me from this—this discomfort. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, Just Please, God, take that Minister. What conceivable godly use is his protracted suffering to you? What conceivable godly use? What conceivable godly use was the screaming of all those men? Did you, did you need to hear their death agonies to know your—your omnipotence? Mama! Mother find my arm! Mommy! Mommy! Mommy they—they shot my leg off it hurts so bad. It hurts so bad. Admitting my understanding's imperfection, trusting that you have a purpose, praying that you consider it served, I beg you to relent. Thy Will Be Done, Amen."
Needed to be longer
Sopranokeks only have 1 joke of varsity
Breakingchads have a plethora of well refined jokes not to mention its depth in its storytelling and characters
I think we are done here
Sopranos is so much funnier, are you moronic?
>Sopranokeks
Keep your mouth shut and lurk moar, newbie
No way you've actually seen the show
>Gabagoul
>Christopher Columbus
>20 years in the can
>Grilled cheese from the radiator
>Aye tone
>15 chekoslovakians
>Floor cheese
>south of the border
>Oh!
@188595681
Did this anon seriously think the point of those posts were to show the characters were supposed to be sympathetic because they were wearing neck braces? Did he really not get they were memes?
Breaking Bad has a better overarching plot, Sopranos has better characterization.I'm a Breaking Bad super fan but I'd give the W to Sopranos.
Sopranos is way better.
But if i were to analyze both shows:
Sopranos:
>has (especially in early seasons) that "low budget" soul feel to it
>Cinematography and direction is sometimes amateur
>But it's more realistic and goofy and comedic scenes are goofy and comedic because it's something that happens in reality, and it holds a mirror to the audience, showing the absurdity of life
>Characters talk like real people would talk in real life. To the point it makes shows you watch later seem like over the top dramatizations of everything.
Breaking Bad:
>higher budget and experience from staff
>bigger ambitions with plot
>better direction, tech and overall fidelity
but
>cringe as frick dialogue "I am the danger." "You are goddamn right"
>often comes off as way too tryhard
>goofy scenes are goofy and funny because the writers made them cringe and not because it was intended (on the meta level rather than the writing level)
I thought "I am the danger" and "you're God damn right" were supposed to be cringe? Like Walt fell for his own bullshit at this point.
That's retroactive cope after the whole "Walt was de bad guy all the time" pseudo intellectuals had their say once the honeymoon period for people idolizing Haisenburg ended.
The scenes are played completely straight and you are supposed to take them at face value.
Walt was always supposed to gradually become a bad guy from the very conceptualization of the show. It's in the goddamn title for chrissake.
Are you guys dumb or what? Walt says those lines after he becomes completely powerless at work, can't even get an audience with Gus, and almost got executed. He's trying to impress his wife by putting on a tough front when in reality he's a terrified prisoner and his wife is afraid of him.
There are people on this board who are too stupid for Breaking Bad, Jesus Christ.
Guy putting on a tough front for his scared wife by growling schizo "I am the danger" shit. That's not supposed to make my feel embarrassed for the guy?
Yes you fricking moron that is the entire point of the scene: a pathetic, impotent man desperately trying to act tough and failing miserably. It's supposed to be embarrassing but Redditors with no self-awareness misinterpret it as badass.
We're both moronic.
You know I love you, anon.
>Projecting your head canon
Skylar reacts with fear, not loathing or mocking laughter.
That's the facts, libtard.
You’d have a point if Walt didn’t masterfully execute a plan to kill Gus with no repercussion just a few episodes later, he didn’t even need anyones help to do it. Walt is absolutely meant to be a threatening figure at that point in the series and you’re just applying post series finale hindsight to an unrelated scene.
I still for bad for her
She was just a fricking idiot
The Wire
>Sopranos has no sympathetic characters
?t=278
?t=14
?t=48
So they were clearly implying this b***h was salty and jelaous of Adriana, right?
>*Mogs both shows in your path*
there is no debate.
One is a certified masterpiece and the other is drawn out dogshit
:
Stupid fricking homosexual
sopranos obviously quite literally every character gets a complete satisfying arc.
Ok but where is MY character arc?
Literally no one in Sopranos has an arc except Melfi and Carmine Jr, and those are side characters.
Y'know who had an arc?
I thought it worked. The show came off as a window into the world of the Jersey mob not as an over arching narrative.
That's what I was getting at. Sopranos isn't a show so much as it is a glimpse at the banality of life -- not even mob life, just life in general. It's often meandering, unsatisfying, random, seemingly pointless... I can see this blowing people's minds at one point but watching it for the first time in 2023 it honestly comes off as juvenile, like a Tao Lin novel. Sure, you can write a book where everyone is depressed and literally nothing happens, but should you? Why make something like that when it's already reality?
I'm 27 so I don't really have an idea of what was coming out at the time so maybe it was refreshing as far as TV goes? The big shit I remember was House and that hasn't held up nearly as well.
>no one in Sopranos has an arc except Melfi and Carmine Jr
this is why talking about anything with anyone on this shithole is a waste of time. how the frick can you say AJ, meadow, chrissy, paulie etc had no arc???
>AJ, meadow, chrissy, paulie
tell us about their arcs
Sopranos is the better TV show
Breaking Bad is the better anime
Sopranos has better characters and is more influential to TV as a whole but Breaking Bad had better structure and was overall the more well written show.
>No Wire
Because as great as The Sopranos and Breaking Bad are, they are competing for second behind The Wire.
>new villain of the season gets out of prison
>immediately kills/maims some innocent person to let you know they're le bad guy
>Tony spends a few episodes debating killing them because it's bad for business
>they die in a seemingly random or anticlimactic way
>this is trickled out across hours of filler scenes of Meadow arguing with her boyfriend, Carmella being a low-class Republican, AJ being a dumb teenager, all stitched together with some of the worst dubbing and editing in history
Boomers really thought this was the greatest show of all time kek
And they were right.
I like both. Sopranos is better made but I prefer BB aesthetic and setting. The banality of being stuck in New Jersey with a bunch of fat Italians…too depressing to watch very often.
Where my The Shieldbros at? Real show for real men
If it was the Dutch and Claudette show then it would have been on par with the greats.
The Shield
good man !!