Example of tomino being right about the importance of female gundam fans. I'm pretty sure there are other better examples, but i don't got any.
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The importance of female gundam fans
>I'm pretty sure there are other better examples
You are merely incorrect.
ALL fans are important in the long run. People shouldn't do stupid war but work together instead.
Hell, when you are ready, have sex with one, make Gundam children.
>posts debunked bs for the 50th time
GTFO tourist.
female(male)
>Pandering to female gundam fans with yaoi bait results in interesting characters, a timeless sense of style and a show with some actual substance to it
>Pandering to modern "female" "fans" with yuri and some vapid otome bait results in the most shallow gundam series outside of maybe F91, with characters that are only liked because they have a vegana, a show whose only priority is shipping and the rest of the show being a mediocre bastard child of every gundam show that came before resulting in it being all but forgotten in a month or two
All actual Gwitch topics to ponder and discuss were exhausted before the show ended. I suppose it's only natural that modern female anime viewers, incapable of deep thinking, enjoy a show where they don't need to.
You bastard better not talk shit about F91 like this
I love F91 for its fights, its animation, and it's music, but I'm not going to beat around the bush when I say it was just a more streamlined version of 0079's "Spacenoids attempt to create their own aristocracy while the federation is corrupt" simply due to it's length
Not corrupt. Just incompetent.
>"female"
Okay, that one's funny.
Most of this is correct except for G-Witch being forgotten, people will not shut their traps about it outside of /m/. I literally went to /x/ yesterday and asked how to make the popularity go away (I failed).
Give it some time. It has the benefit of being the only tv Gundam in a while and it just got into controversy. It’s going to be forgotten by the time the Seed movie rolls around and past potentially getting more HGs and an Aerial MG or RG, it’s going to fall off hard.
>it’s going to fall off hard
I'm assuming when IBO Season 2 rolled around, model kits for IBO went into free fall? What about Unicorn model kits? They still sell well, yeah?
The difference was that those shows showed off the model kits compared to how much of an afterthought they were here. Most of the audience for this show cares more about figures and pins than the kits.
>Most of the audience for this show cares more about figures and pins than the kits.
Nah man that's where you're wrong. The majority of the audience that watches this buys model kits as feelings of fondness for the character that the item is related to. This is why there's shit like Michaelis shelfwarming because it's directly related to Shadiq's popularity even though there's nothing really that offensive about that the design itself.
Yeah and now that the show is over and they have the kit, they aren’t going to buy others as they’ll focus more on character merchandise. A character can sell a suit but if the suit itself doesn’t catch your fancy, then you’ll probably only get one of it to have it and focus instead on character merch and stuff. G-witch also has the misfortune of airing while the zine scene is in a resurgence so people will focus buying fan merch as Bandai starts drip feeding less and less character stuff for the show. They already left the Elans out during the event for whatever reason despite them being pretty popular. Point being, most of these fans aren't going to buy 3 versions of the same suit and by the time Bandai releases MSVs they’ll have moved on.
That's true for most people who consume GunPla anyway outside of armbuilder/grunts. I don't see much difference between the new people joining and your average Gunpla user. There's very few people who would buy HG Strike Freedom 10 times, but they might buy the Strike Freedom in a different scale. So that's same situation here. The benefit of these character merchandise loving fans is
they're going to buy the model kit + 123456677888 other types of items from the show, where's gunpla user doesn't buy anything else besides gunpla.
That’s where you’re a bit off. What I’m trying to say is people who like a suit and also a character actually will buy the same suit in the different grades and the different variants it gets on top of already buying the character merchandise. People who liked Graham bough his figure and the different suits he rode when they come out in HG but they also dropped a pretty penny to get the Exia R4 Metalbuild when it came out because they liked the suit enough to justify it. Just looking at the fanbase now, the only people I could see buying stuff on that scale would be Guel fans. The point is mainly about the fact that most people will eventually draw a line where since they might get more character merch, they won’t spend on the gunpla because they don’t see it as enough of am extension of the character to make it worth it in their mind and they don’t like the suit, just the character who ride it.
The metal kits look so nice, but since they come pre-assembled turns me off.
You still do have to put them together somewhat but you buy those kits for the look and rigidity, not the experience of building it.
Have you ever built one of the titanium gunpla kits? How are they in your experience if you had?
Well build is an overstatement, they come with some parts not attached and you just put them together. I like them because they’re very solid and the gimmicks are well done. Again, they’re mostly something you get if you just want something you know is stable and is already exactly as it should be.
No, no, anon. I'm not talking about the metal kits this time, I'm talking about the Ka versions that have a titanium finish to them. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh my mistake then, I haven’t built those but now I’m curious about it myself
>People who liked Graham bough his figure and the different suits he rode when they come out in HG but they also dropped a pretty penny to get the Exia R4 Metalbuild when it came out because they liked the suit enough to justify it
This is cope, character fans mostly just buy the character merch not plamo merch. This is self evident by the fact women are mostly character fans yet females are extremely underrepresented in gunpla demographics. The people buying expensive metal builds are the same people consooming gunpla
Almost every japanese Lockon fan I’ve seen on twitter has the HG, MG, and Metalbuild on top of having his scale figure, prize figure, and a bunch of his keychains. Most of them pay someone else to build and decal it for them but they do have it. The issue G-witch will run into is most likely not having enough to even get to that point. You’re underestimating women who have a longstanding interest in characters.
Women will never understand gundam, in fact I highly doubt they can even understand something simpler like evangelion or macross.
>evangelion or macross.
Does not help that the 3rd movie turned kaworu & shinji into bigger yaoi bait characters
Wow! Women watch Gundam! Should we buy them all medals for being so special?
imagine bingewatching 0079 with a girl
Imagine them not shutting up about Char and Garma shipping.
>Women
Both men and women are good.
Everyone should be fans.
All parties doing stupid ass war are dumb. Damn this neo progressism that tries to make people more in conflict than actually equal with each others
Who fricking cares? You aren't and will never be a woman.
Good. Wouldn't want to be a hoe.
This being news to literally anyone is more shocking than the actual fricking post. Plenty of early sci-fi communities were buy and large formed by women, both in the US and in Japan, and anyone who tells you otherwise is moronic at best and a historical revisionist at worst.
Gundam's earliest fans, much like many other similar works, were probably made up of fujoshi writing gay, 70s era doujins or some shit.
I don't really get why you'd post something like this other than to stir up unneeded arguments.Most people either already know this or are too stupid to ever realize it.
>buy and large
Why the frick did it come out like that I don't even think I hit the "u" key?
>communities
Here's the trap: men who engage with an enjoy certain things do not need to create """"""communities"""""" to feel validated.
>men who engage with an enjoy certain things do not need to create """"""communities"""""" to feel validated.
Yeaaaaaaaah
Just remember, you're here forever, anon!
He said while being on a theme-specific board.
I'm french, my mother was an huge fan of Captain Harlock in the early 80s. Most of her friends who liked it were women too.
She also enjoyed Grendizer though this one was universaly loved.
Tomino is actually wrong though, and is entirely just talking shit because he doesn't like Bandai's increasing influence over Sunrise. Tomino's whole thing is that he's just mad about the commercialisation of it, and is trying to dismiss the largest, most vocal part of the fanbase for 'doing it wrong' by insisting that there was actually this silent majority of girls who were the ones who REALLY cared about the aspects of Gundam that REALLY mattered, and they were the TRUE fans. It's just old man cope because Bandai won
>Gundam's earliest fans, much like many other similar works, were probably
>probably
We don't need to speculate, we know for a fact who they were, because this shit was being documented at the god damned time. It primarily was armour/aircraft nerds, who were already getting their Gundam models featured in magazines like Hobby Japan before Bandai had even acquired the license (e.g. Akihito Iwase famously got a lot of attention for his stuff, like picrel, as well as the StreamBase group founded by Masahiro Oda back in early 1980), and the growing high-school/college-age fanbase for anime that had started to coalesce around Yamato and began organising and producing fanzines (e.g. the GunSight doujins being produced by Kawamori and Mikimoto, or all the coverage in the newly-launched Monthly OUT magazine)
Tomino is a writer and he cares more about his characters than mobile suits. It's expected of him to highlight a niche subculture that wrote stories about his characters compared to a less niche subculture that built models of robots he did not design.
Plus he's a man so I imagine he was more intrigued in seeing the creativity of pure unfiltered girl autism. Not saying plamo and boy autism is bad, just that it was something that existed prior to Gundam and he must have come across it beforehand.
On the other hand, the doujinshi culture of women was a completely new thing to him and they were writing and drawing his characters on top of that.
Problem is those female fans basically got gundam cancelled while the male paypigs saved it
Can female Gundam fans understand Reccoa? Cuz this sausage party of a board still can’t seem to understand her even after all those weekly Reccoa threads
Weebs are man children or adults with child like minds on human nature
Yes
I go to Anime Expo every year and the Gundam booth always has a pretty even split of male/female fans. And you know they're not just there with their boyfriends because a lot of those girls are alone, buy stuff themselves and carry their own bags of gunpla around. Also if you participate in the model contests you'd see half the contestants are women.
Also the girls tend to buy character merchandise in addition to the mecha
correction, they buy character related merch. Grunts and unpopular characters aren't going to sell with femoids
The one I go to in nyc is always all male. Don't recall seeing any females buying kits at the bandai booth on the past few years.
>most of the early gundam fans were girls!
>out of the 40 people there 12 were women so that's most of em I guess
Tomino is a well known lying pandering hack I wouldn't be surprised if he forgot that he even said that only to praise himself when some tumblrina found this article to virtue signal.
Hey tomino - maybe the other creators are unaware because it isn't fricking true lmao homosexuals need to get a grip
>tumblrina
>in Japan
Tumblr isn't even remotely popular there. At least do an ounce of fricking research before spewing your malformed opinions on things you clearly do not understand, swine.
>Hey tomino - maybe the other creators are unaware
Calling out Tomino on this one too I suppose, but for the record, I'm almost certain Yas knew as well based on comments I remember reading from him, but I don't have the sauce so take it with a grain of salt. Regardless, it doesn't take that long to find out that even pre-gundam, things like JUNE magazine existed primarily for women, with discussions of then popular anime and manga.
>Tomino is a well known lying pandering hack
You're a got damn moron.
Yes, it was muh female fans that were gathering outside the VA studios and making Gundam doujins like Gunsight One
If that's true, where's my goddamn gundam wifey