>Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino says “anime must not repeat Disney’s worst mistake”
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THE JAPANESE KNOW ITS OVER FOR WESTSLOP HAHAHAHAHAHA
>Gundam creator Yoshiyuki Tomino says “anime must not repeat Disney’s worst mistake”
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As we've seen this generation things can swing insanely far in a very short period of time. Zoomers absolutely love anime so it would not surprise me if the dominant counter culture of the next generation on youth were not as into it.
anime outslops western slop by a long run though. Most of it is made just to appeal to japanese coomers and braindead kids. It's mostly shit minus two or three shows from30 years ago
this.
5%, maybe 10% of anime in existence is actually worth watching
Still better than israeliwood, I havent been in cinema in two years save for Godzilla and some kid movie I had my niece too.
That's true for every medium
Actually making things that appeal to your viewers instead of force-feeding them propaganda instantly makes anime infinitely better than disney slop
>instead of force-feeding them propaganda
protagonist in one of the most popular anime.
this is worldbuilding, not propaganda, orthodox neckbeard
>2023
>he's still unironically ""religious""
sad
>just consoom product and get excited for next product bro
>people who go on Cinemaphile - Television & Film watch television and film
Whoa
>Most of it is made just to appeal to japanese coomers and braindead kids.
Which is what makes it so refreshing compared to Westslop which is made exclusively for 10 morons on Twitter that won't even watch it and Larry Fink
That's completely fine. The talent that is necessary to make the really good shows comes from picking out the good creators from the endless churned slop and elevating them. You gotta let creators create slop if you want them to create kino, behind every single artist in existence is a long forgotten but gigantic gallery of absolutely terrible art.
Purging all of your slop and lesser projects to go for blockbusters also purges your talent pool, which is what Disney did to ruin themselves, among many many other things.
This is also why AI is going to be garbage when it finally infects all of animation, all the talentless hacks are going to be flooding in because there is no way to filter for the good ones.
Disney could spend a billion dollars and not be able to make something like this.
>It's mostly shit minus two or three shows from30 years ago
That's literally hollywood
>simple entertainment = bad
t. muh message troony
He's not even talking about woke shit
3D animation has always been trash
>Tomino also labeled Disney's latest films as "depressing"
that's a known anti-woke dogwhistle
Tomino is super woke you don't know what you're talking about.
everyone and everything has always been super woke but for some reason we still need more
the usa is up for sale, best be your allies getting the scraps
Owari DA
Chad Tomino making weebs seethe for 40+ years
>Hates anime
>Does his job anyway
>Instead of trying to subvert it
>Anime is succeeding
What am I supposed to be seething at again?
wtf is his problem?
>creates kino out of spite
Gotta respect the man.
For decades the primary purpose of anime was to sell children's toys.
I can see why the creator of Gundam would resent the whole medium
Literally every decent artist hates their work and their medium. Self-fellating morons are how the US got into this mess.
>Anything that has 4000 spinoffs is creatively bankrupt
This. It's hating your medium that pushes you into trying to grow beyond it
Didn't the last gundam series pander to the west and have a lot of gays in it?
>Golden age of anime
Lol yeah right, modern anime is almost as shit as yidsney slop.
Anime already made those mistakes
>anime must not repeat Disney’s worst mistake
OY VE-
>blockbusters without any personality
[hand rubbing resumes]
WHITTUU PIGGGUUU GO HOMMUUU
It's funny because Bandai Namco is already guilty of committing Disney Wars' worst sins with Gundam Unicorn and Narrative.
Yoshiyuki-sensei, I kneel.
Anime is full of trannies. That ship sailed long ago lmao
>slop bad!
Pretty funny coming from the guy who made a series spanning like 20+ fricking entries but with only two actual good ones (0079 & 0081).
Alright, how do I get into Gundam?
You can't, you had to be there when it was happening. It won't feel the same now. Play Muv Luv instead.
Hm, darn. Oh wait a min, you better not be Disney shills tryna trick me.
Trying to spare you a headache is all.
Muv luv? Is this 2011?
Luv is timeless.
Don't. It's a terrible time to get into it because they're going hard on the Westslop pandering for the foreseeable future.
You waited this far, you can wait until it all blows over.
I started watching the very first series from the 80s with fresh eyes and its actually still pretty fun, I'm looking forward to seeing how it changes over the years.
watch the Tomino-directed entries in production order
the things that this shill is talking about are not in Tomino's works
Watch the first Gundam series, then the next one that was produced (Zeta Gundam) and the next one, and so on...
It's not hard.
Start from the beginning. The original show is great, although the animation can be quite rough. If 52 episodes is too much of a commitment, you can watch the compilation movies instead. Then just watch in order, skipping the stuff that you don't like. Tomino's works are the most important, but he's a based moron and occasionally puts out some real slop (Double Zeta).
Gundam '79 is actually kino. Amuro Ray is a GOAT character. Zeta Gundam (direct sequel to 79) is a huge visual and audio upgrade but the story is a little shaky. I watched Double Zeta (sequel to zeta) and I regret it - try it out but if you're not feeling it just read a synopsis. After that is the movie.
Zeta I wouldn't call shaky, just poorly paced. You're so used to the filler episodes when shit finally hits the fan in the Gryps conflict it's almost entirely over. Amuro and Kamille are the GOATs
Gundam Thunderbolt and the spinoff movies are pretty good. Haven't seen anything else.
anime slop
ANIME IS THE SUPERIOR MEDIUM
I dislike most Japanese stuff, but I have to admit that at least that they're willing to experiment with new ideas, not lose sight in entertaining people, and not trying to spread pozzed shit like US companies do.
Honestly, seeing how a Godzilla and Miyazaki film is doing better in US box office than Disney movies sums up what's wrong with modern execs. When the Japanese of all people are starting to encroach our entertainment industry, you know Hollywood is too far gone.
I grew up reading comics in the late 90's and all of the 00's. There's a reason why manga is outselling US comics (outside of indies) because there's an actual beginning and an eventual ending. No shitty retcons or DONUT STEEL that these newbie woke writers are trying to put in. We have nobody but ourselves for letting this happen.
ARS·GRATIA·ARTIS
Thank God the Japanese understood the motto.
I have nothing against Marxists, I love Walter Benjamin and Marshall Berman because they're great writers, but it looks artists nowadays are only into Marxism and forgot people want to escape.
Much of artistic works have some kind of ideology bent behind it, but at least the Japanese recognize to try and divorce their feelings when making stuff.
It's less that they divorce their feels and more that you can enjoy it without connecting with the themes.
>Much of artistic works have some kind of ideology bent behind it
Totally. The problem is how Hollywood decided to write ideological pamphlets, not works of art with some politics accidentally leaking here and there. They forgot the entertaining part.
Like I said, I can't wait for the infinite money cheat to be pulled away and these slack-jawed limp-wristed frickwits screw themselves over.
I think it's funny you opened with Japan being keen to support new ideas, only to then immediately start talking about a long-established franchise and director.
Japan is as guilty as the west is in relying on franchise slop. They only difference is that you have far fewer people openly campaigning to subvert an IP's appeal for political reasons.
Pfff where is that golden age of anime? It's all fricking trash. There will never be another Akira or GITS
I have more faith in anime than modern Hollywood. At least they're be willing to try and do something experimental and/or fun at least.
late 80s to turn of the millenium, ended around FLCL
>creator of the original brainlet consumer trash gundam that ruined anime and turned it into capeshit
>we must not be disney xD
No matter how bad anime can get, it's nowhere near the kind of shit that current Disney is or other studios.
completely delusional take when disney is just copying the anime industry lmao
A hollow comment with no substance easily dismissed.
Disney has completely shot itself in the foot with its wokeness and abandoned being a family-friendly feature. They just want to cater to the 1% of loud crazies.
Anime has its share of NEETs and other creepy shut-ins as well as nonsensical crap, but the main intent is to entertain. Plus they still make anime intended for only kids (even in the 90's, a lot of anime studios got in trouble for putting mature content in timeslots aimed for general audiences) as well as the sub-niche of teen and adult fans.
Go on Cinemaphile for five minutes and look at some moeslop threads or isekai
The worst still being a thousand times better than Wish.
As god awful as the average anime is I think you can admit low brow garbage desperately pandering to your audience is better than what we have in the west now, which is shitting on your audience and telling them to frick off and die.
Gundam only turned into slop when Tomino stopped being involved
he's right about the digital """animation""", anime has looked like shit for 15+ years
sip
let's talk about the real stuff please
11 or 18?
>a-anime is bad because I can't stop watching the shows aimed toward teenagers and incel coomers! NO I WON'T WATCH ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC, T-troony!!!!
There were some good anime this year.
Vinland Saga
Frieren
Pluto
It's admittedly hard to sift through all the slop, though.
>It's admittedly hard to sift through all the slop
>picks top 2 most rated anime and top 1 ona on mal
the absolute state of nu-weebs
>Tomino also labeled Disney's latest films as "depressing" and "boring"
I love this lil homie.
Big dick energy.
there isn't a single good gundam anime tho
>anime must not repeat Disney’s worst mistake
they had a gay wedding in Gundam: The Witch from Mercury
Jap TV is so shit that even their own citizens watch Kdramas.
Jap TV is megaslop
Kdramas are literally remakes of Jdramas/anime/visual novels, except they're written by middle aged women in order to pump up that emotional manipulation factor.
Anime has been rubbish since spirited away came out.
Now every anime film is a CGI "prestige" shoujo romance/coming of age movie with vague scifi fantasty shit thrown in on top.
Also Gundam is utter shit. Anything that has 4000 spinoffs is creatively bankrupt and is just coasting by on brand-power alone.... Just like Disney's (c) Star Wars (tm).
>le slop jajajajajajajajajajajaja
Rodriguez quotient of thread: .984
Anime lost its heart years ago, probably 2001. Still some good ones but it's not the same.
What about Japanese Disney slop? They even managed to find a half-black for this.
I would pay good money for a movie in which Amuro frags every Disney princess in the Nu Gundam
Gundam and gunpla is pozzed now. They had a dyke main lead and its the best initial selling. Its so over.
Never liked gundam. I'm Robotech forever.
the only good gundam anime is birdie wings
Doesn't the latest iteration of his franchise involve a lesbian wedding?
Believe it or not before you guys began to fear the rainbow brigade, people thought lesbians were sexy.
anime already "lost it's heart" 20 years ago
>Amuro
>Char
>the setting
>the mechs
>the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7aa5OoVrrs
Coworker tries to talk to me about anime and I explain these things. Then he responds "Yeah but dat Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 though!"
for me it's https://youtu.be/3a0ulHGyplQ?t=144
was going to post this exact song, you are truly a man of class. have a great evening
westoids can never grasp the pain at the sole person to understand you amongst all the people who claim to know you, being the person who has hurt you deeply and someone who in their understanding thinks you are a stupid dumb Black person
Much like Lucas, Tomino's insistence on Gundam being "anti-war" is just window dressing to make a franchise created to sell toys sound deeper than it is after it became a hit. War and environmentalism only became memes in the 90s thanks to Michael Jackson, 80s Tomino was more concerned with his female characters being amply endowed in the pubic regions so his male characters didn't look like gays.
If it were antiwar the actual Gundam pilots would become despicable human beings through their actions. Amuro's refusal to fight in the early episodes is never presented as a sign of his superior morality, it's presented as him being a little b***h. Judau rides off into the sunset in a blaze of glory. Only Kamille really suffers. There is never any moment which portrays them as being worse off than if they had never started fighting in the first place. "Muh Newtypes muh weighed down by Earth's gravity muh Oedipus" is pretty much the only "deep" philosophical themes in the first Tomino Gundam series.
WitP was the most overtly antiwar early Gundam, and Tomino wasn't involved in the story.
>Judau rides off into the sunset in a blaze of glory.
All around abhorrent Black person IQ-tier post, but this part is especially moronic.
I'm scared from when tomino and anno pass away bros
It's like when Scorsese passes it's like the death of a competent medium.
There's still plenty of other anime directors.
Anime is being infested with moeshit and isekai, but it has its cycles. So long as there's still a viable manga industry in Japan, there's always going to be anime adaptations as well as original series being made. I'm willing to bet a grand on Japan's animation and comics industry over the US.