Now that the dust has settled, what did you guys think of this garbage piece of shit?
>visuals and fight scenes like a low budget TV show
>awful monologues and uninspired performances
>absolutely no attempt to make plot original or interesting at all
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May as well be called The Filter based on how much it filters all the homosexuals here
What did you like about it? Be specific.
Fassbender's performance, the tense, focused direction, the chaptering and also the human core of the movie (you probably missed).
It was Drive on xanax
>and also the human core of the movie
This has to be a joke. What human core?
>human core
probably the most nihilistic film in ages
Dude... His concession in the end is his parting with nihilism.
>one line of dialogue after zero character development and a string of murders, including innocents
i guess it's too deep for me to understand
>after zero character development
>him being kicked in the gut by his girl when she tells him how she stayed loyal and all she hoped for was to see him again
>him fumbling his mantras and taking ridiculous risks throughout most of the movie
You really got filtered.
>him fumbling his mantras and taking ridiculous risks throughout most of the movie
Are you sure you're seeing what's there and not what you want to see?
I thought it was interesting depiction of a professional killer that included the "boring" parts, like the waiting, preparation, each step in the plan as well as his inner monologue and weird habits like listening to the Smiths.
Felt engaged and kept me watching till the end. Simple as!
I don't care and I think you're gay. What do you think about that?
Nothing at all.
its logical and pragmatic approach to what the killer and his motivations are.
Mostly it felt realistic, although there were a couple of scenes worth of Hollywood bullshit, they can be forgiven as the larger picture stays consistent.
He both creates then kills the damsel in distress, and I really liked her role as well. She was intelligent and crafty, and it felt like she tried her utmost to get out of the situation alive.
I liked the taxi cab execution. The build up to it was great.
The execution of the secretary was also good, it fit in with the prementioned logical and pragmatic approach; might as well make it look like an accident if given the opportunity.
Yeah, the one thing I might criticize though would be why the agency wanted to remove one of their top guns for hire in the first place, and then how sloppily they went about it.
I liked the general theme and the comment on modernity especially freelance/contract work
obviously fass
also all the technical aspects bar some questionable cgi
What parts were CGI? I'm guessing a few of the murders were, and of course the bullet stream from the first assassination attempt.
some "location" shots, possibly the airplanes, blood etc
Was this CGI? Was a kino shot, if completely unnecessary to the plot
It's a decent flick.
best fincher flick since Zodiac
Get off my board, midwit. Your "opinion" stinks, keep it yourself.
it had no urgency but i was drunk when i watched it
4/10 or 3/10
The fact that i knew shit like The Marvels was bombing as I watched this kino only made it more enjoyable.
Netflix.
I'm sure most of anyone here on Cinemaphile that clicked this thread about The Killer, most likely pirated this.
There is or was any dust
I wish he’d stop listening to the fricking Smiths for 5 minutes.
I don't like them much but it was good in the sniper scene.
just finished it, enjoyed it immensely
finally the Hitman movie we never got
>murder innocent people as a career
>murder innocent people the entire movie
>murder the taxi driver that did nothing
>spare the guy that ordered the hit on the basis that he didn't know he ordered the failed hit that hurt his girlfriend
what?
>kill people as a career choice
>kill people out of self preservation after shit hits the fan
>don't kill the one guy who would bring a shit ton of heat down on you, simply choose to intimidate him instead
What's not to understand?
I'd give a lot more weight to that if there was anything to point to it. He went there to kill him and then decided not to in a strangely out of character way.
>he went there to kill him
No he didn't. He literally mentions this dozens of times throughout the movie, "stick to the plan, don't improvise..."
He went there to tie up the last loose end. If that guy learns that the failed hitman he hired has gone rogue, he might well just dump money into having him hunted down.
>If that guy learns that the failed hitman he hired has gone rogue, he might well just dump money into having him hunted down.
What's stopping him from doing that now, now that he knows for sure that the failed hitman he hired went rogue?
He has now been successfully intimated by said Hitman.
He explains it quite well himself. He says he was far removed from the hit and didn't really give a shit and was presented with a clean up option for a measly 150k, he said yes just for some peace of mind, now trouble has arrived in his home waving a silencer at him, so obviously he now has to take into account the Hitman is a real human bean and not to be fricked with.
Okay, now why kill the taxi driver?
Are you actually braindead? Or where you browsing snapchat while watching the movie?
The taxi driver could easily ID him, it had to be done. He needed the information, and that was the easiest way to get it.
Yeah but he killed him because he held him responsible. It was revenge for his waifu.
And the billionaire that has the means to order a murder, that has been known to order a murder before, and is considerably more power than a taxi driver, and who might actually even have a reason to kill him, wasn't killed? Who probably has access to video of him entering and exiting the building, as well as within it? Because he trusts his intimidation?
Every hit has a frickup :
>misses sniper shot
>kills black guy by miscalculating
>walks into maori's house instead of shooting him from a distance
>walks into a crowded restaurant to talk to tilda
>doesn't kill billionaire
yeah, I'm sure betting that an obscenely rich guy who already ordered a hit before and is generally a slimy person would totally hold off on ordering another hit and keeping his distance after getting all paranoid from Fass' threats.
Would you be okay betting your life that this rich prick will not reneg and not just simply change his mind days later? months later? years later? would you be willing to bet your life on it? or just simply shoot him then and there and then walk away
bear in mind that fass was okay with killing his competitor in the opening scene, and was not concerned about getting tracked down over that, but would be concerned about getting tracked down by killing this guy? arguably they're the same level of mark. if he had no problem taking the job killing the first mark, then he'd have no problem killing this guy and walking away
bottom line it's a frickup
>shooting him from a distance
He wanted to have a chat with him, as with Tilda
>walks into a crowded restaurant to talk to tilda
So? What exactly was she going to do about it, while getting out alive? She said it herself, she could scream and piss herself, all that would happen was she'd be shot dead.
>would totally hold off on ordering another hit and keeping his distance
Why wouldn't he? He literally tells him to his face he doesn't give a shit about him, he just wanted to be left to grow his cash crop without needing to worry about a fed ex delivery turning up with a bomb, or a banana peel inconspicuously placed on a stair case, or any other covert attempts at his life.
Regardless, who the frick is he going to hire? The last place he went to ended up being killed by the guy who fricked up his job?
That's another thing I liked about the movie, the bad guy doesn't have an army of henchmen he can just order to their deaths.
>and was not concerned about getting tracked down over that
He literally was, that's why he paid for the clean up operation afterwards.
You're moronic, rewatch the movie and try to stay off tik tok this time you waste of oxygen.
>You're moronic, rewatch the movie and try to stay off tik tok this time you waste of oxygen.
compelling counterpoint
It made sense, he didn't kill him purely out of pragmatism because killing a rich guy as he mentioned earlier would bring a lot more police attention than other people.
he had to murder the cabbie
pretty bad movie, plot is cliche yet nonsensical and the resolution is reached in a rushed and poorly executed manner. I liked the beginning though, very literary
What exactly is cliché about it?
I'd argue it's not cliché at all. If you want cliché, watch the Hitman movies.
>plot is cliche yet nonsensical
>dumb pleb got confused, lol
If it didn’t have Fincher’s name on it you wouldn’t see a single one of these “you just didn’t get it” morons in here
It was fine, nothing in the movie really had much gravitas or weight to it and it was surprisingly cheap looking, the lighting looked very televisioney for a fincher movie considering he usually has that shit on lock
That said, he did pull off a really good fight scene
The impetus to start the whole trail of revenge was moronic. They hired two hitmen to kill him to tie up loose ends but they don't find him, so they beat and rape his girl and then let her escape. And then they both just go home like nothing happened? This script was very poorly thought out
I did think that was weird
Also his girl was such a nothing character that it probably would've made more sense to just have her die anyway, she had like two lines in the movie
Why people keep saying she was raped? Where was that implied?
Most efficient way to get a woman to talk, allegedly
Or at least the threat is, but if she calls your bluff then you really have no choice to but rape her to prove your point. Allegedly.
>If you cannot endure boredom, this kino is not for you.
If you find kino boring, you should frick off back to your capeslop containment thread.
>I. Don't. Give. A. FRICK.
What are you, an ESL or what?
*Starts up my The Smiths playlist*
*Mopeds behind you*
*Draws sniper rifle*
Psh, nothing personnel... kid.
>awful monologues and uninspired performances
this was the most noticeable in my opinion. the rich guy is the only realistic conversation that happens in the entire movie. it was like acting school level of bad performances
It's one of the few 'modern' movies where I didn't have to stop it several times and eventually give up because the overwhelming weight of homosexualry was too much to bear. It's just a competently made thriller and that's fine.
Plot played out like it was written by a five year old. We failed to kill one of our best assassins? Damn, back to business as usual.
The depiction of the planning and execution of the assassinations was pretty kino though.
so the FL man lets a girl who has just been tortured for presumably hours escape, but beats the shit out of a trained assassin for like 15 minutes DAYS after getting stabbed. Also he just GOES HOME after she gets away and is sitting in an unsecure hospital. The whole thing was silly.
The Killer is literally me
Good, but not Fincher's best.
It's worth watching for Fassbender's autistic performance alone.
I'll watch anything with interesting hitmen unless it's action focused and too over the top. Anything remotely cool or European with cool detached killers gets my attention (think that fricking Anna by Luc Besson), but this was just... I don't know, above average. Definitely worse than I had hoped for.
Anyway it was the first movie in ages I didn't have to skip parts. At first I thought it was just Fincher getting those not-John-Wick quick bucks and it some ways it was and then it wasn't. Some of the monologuing is disjointed. I don't particularly enjoy listening to the inner monologue of some nobody. You need to stand out in some way to get my attention and lots of his essays are mostly platitudes and just his way of living I guess. It wasn't original in that way. Oh, the cool semi-autistic cold murderer, okay. If it's supposed to be interpreted as smart due to some meta bullshit, then why bother. Why put in all that stupid hint of a lore.
Just read books and modern classics, guys. Mainstream cinema keeps failing at being smart.
It's a movie about the moments between the big
'plot beats'. The protagonist even says this in the beginning, that it's not about the action but about the time before and after.
Why didnt the lawyer guy put a hit on the assassins that failed to kill Fassbender? Fassbender needs to die because he failed his mission but the assassins walk free having botched the Fassbender job and made a huge messL?
the second group of assassins were paid for out of the lawyers own pocket, if they frick up he'd have to either shill out more money for even more incompetent assassins, or just try to have them go again at a later date.
It a film for those normies that think they are better than the "normies", but in reality they are just as stupid.
The funny thing is, this movie answers for that to an extent with the last line.
>arguing about the plot
Meanwhile, I already forgot about it and moved on with my life.
4/10 maybe 5/10 if they dropped the narration
It was ok, but Fincher can do so much better. It's like he phoned this one in. The ending was terrible.
He needed to get some people in to help revise the script. I can't believe he thought that script was passable as it was. Felt like I was watching a movie with a firstdraft screenplay.
Fun psychoflick
A mix of John Wick and America Psycho
Pretty great.
it's pure kino
>Filters 90% of the board
How did Fincher do it, bros?
Kinda garbage but also kind of kino
Tech guy here, a lot of huge mistakes:
- Stepping on a phone won't erase its data
- Putting a nail into a laptop also won't erase its data unless you somehow get it exactly into the hard drive and even then it could possibly be recoverable
The Terminal List and maybe Mr. Robot is the only media I've seen that gets opsec right
>- Putting a nail into a laptop also won't erase its data unless you somehow get it exactly into the hard drive and even then it could possibly be recoverable
That part didn't matter since he ended up taking the laptops with him anyway. The phone parts did, though. But let me ask: would him taking the SD card out of his phone at the airport been enough? Or could they still trace the calls in his phone?
SD cards usually don't hold any important data on phones. All the important data is in the built in storage. So no, taking the SD card out was also moronic.
Fincher needs to get a tech consultant to help him with these things because it made the movie even more moronic than it already was.
>Stepping on a phone won't erase its data
Yeah, but what if he just intended for it not to be picked up?
That's cool to know. Thanks Tech guy
Nobody would defend this steaming pile of dogshit if Fincher didn't direct it. It's like the people that defend Miami Vice or Blackhat just because Michael Mann directed them. What a fricking disaster of a movie.
Nope. I'll defend (almost) any Fassbender movie.
pretty based, I hope you won't defend asscreed tho
I like him in what I've seen him in, but his performance in this movie doesn't strike me as anything special. Some good moments from him but definitely not enough to save this steaming festering excrement of a film
I actually think it would be getting even more praise if it wasn't Fincher and was just some random director. The fact it's Fincher is why many critics are holding it to a very high standard they probably wouldn't be if it was some newbie.
Yeah you're right, but even from some first-time director this would be a mediocre film at best. This is easily Fincher's worst movie to date.
>this movie was bad even if it was directed by someone Cinemaphile generally likes
Corrected, and?
>this movie would be bad if it wasn’t directed properly
Correct, and?