why do people hate this scene?
when i watched i just though
>oh she like bruce that way,ok
>will he open up to her?
then i learned this scene was controversial?
i don't get it,why is wrong for batgirl to like batman?
it seems pretty straight up to me.
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Its literally grooming
oh my god I can't even
It's his best friend's daughter.
it was women b***hing about the age gap but at most its only 8-10 years between them and shes in her mid 20s.
>what if we injected romance into this story in which all characters involved already have plausible explanations for their relationships and actions
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Because it wasn't part of the original Killing Joke story? It was some bad original story tacked on to extend the running time when people just wanted to see TKJ adapted.
You know what to do.
I'd have to talk to the writers of the movie, but I have a theory about this scene. Later, Babs avoids Batman for a while. The Joker then shows up, presses his gun in her lower abdomen, just below her belt, and shoots her. When Batman visits her in the hospital, I maintain that there's a cut line, something to the effect of "We couldn't save the baby."
It's something to parallel the Joker's torture of Gordon, to give him that One Bad Day that would turn him crazy. It's something that could give Batman his One Bad Day and actually drive him crazy enough to kill. It wasn't part of the Joker's plan, he didn't know about their relationship. But it would certainly have affected Batman pretty strongly. It's really the only reason I can think of for the sex scene.
That makes sense. I can see DC cut this telenovela angle if your theory is true.
>it seems pretty straight up to me.
That's because you're an immature moron who refuses to accept that life, morality, and human relationships all have nuance.
Not Canon from Comic. Some Writer's Studio Funded Erotic Fanfic.
I don't give two shits about le controversy of the ship. I hate that whole sequence because it has 0 bearing on the actual story. It was just a bad attempt at making Barbara less of a plot device in a story that really isn't about her but about Gordon and Batman.
Americans get weirded out by older dudes hooking up with women much younger than they are. I don't know where it came from but it's definitely a recent phenomenon.
It’s a roastie and loser thing
What I don't get was how blind sided people were by this as if this wasn't in the DCAU
You serious? It was even worse there. Bruce Wayne fricking his son's girlfriend. That's some P Diddy shit.
She didn't think of herself as Dick's girlfriend, she makes it clear.
It's very hot
indeed
What is the point of any sex scene in any media?
Sometimes people have sex and sometimes it’s important. What’s the point of any scene in any media?
When you have a comic that’s pretty well-written and self-contained, and then you get a bunch of writers to add a bunch of shit to it to pad it out, you end up with a not so great movie. When the movie closely followed the comic, it was pretty good, and when it deviated it was bad. I get they did it because they wanted to pad out the runtime, as the comic is short, but honestly it should have just been a double feature with another comic. I’d have liked Killing Joke paired with A Serious House On Serious Earth. They came out around the same time and both deal with the Bat/Joker relationship and Batman’s doubts of his own sanity. Or you could pair it with a Batgirl comic like her debut before the Killing Joke story, or Oracle Year One after. Killing Joke is a weird comic for Batgirl because it impacts her characters history the most, but she’s really more a footnote in the actual story.
The tl;dr is DC should just do double feature movies instead of padding out stories that are already self contained and well written.
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Huh
Grooming
Cinemaphile bait is realy low quality these days.
some people hate this movie?
god, it's one of the scenes of an animated movie I've jerked off the most, just thinking about this batgirl's body makes me so hard.
Besides, these two were hungry for each other since BTAS, I wasn't surprised
If you have a daughter you would understand
As a few other people have said its not in the Killing Joke comic. I went to watch the Killing Joke not this bullshit. For the rest of the movie It follows the book accurately. But you sit through 14(?) minutes of shitty Batgirl content that isnt even accurate to any comic canon.
>oh but it adds to her character
its not about Batgirl
>but it gives Bruce motivation to go after the Joker
Its the fricking Joker. Him being outside is motivation enough for Batman.
>You're overreacting
Yeah Probably. But I just don't like hiw they slid this in. It was really stupid
If you don't like this you are sexist and infantilizing women.
>the only way Batgirl can be interesting isn't by all the good she did as a superhero
>its because she spreads her legs to Batman and Joker
I agree. I want floppy leg sex with Oracle.
>-Your friend, Dick
and dont forget that other guy in the movie who turned out to be a bad guy
Her body her choice
Then maybe she shouldve chose not to get shot.
The sex scene was done to give Batgirl more presence in the story (lazy writing)
Her original role wasn't tasteful, but this isn't any better.
>What if we made Batman and Batgirl lovers to explain why he cares at all about her being shot and crippled?
I honestly get more mad at her acting so pissy afterwards
>Knows where Bruce lives so she can just drive up and ask why he didn't talk to her afterwards
>Knows Bruce is distant so him not saying anything after vanishing isn't past him
>Takes her frustration out on an innocent guy who at worst just raised his voice to his GF for just wanting some space