The latino backlash to Primos, which has apparently even spread to Hailey's On It, made me wonder how other POCs reacted to their ethnicities and cultures being represented in other Disney shows, like were Thais disgruntled about Amphibia or Molly McGee?
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Thai people don't get disgruntled. Most people don't. In fact, Amphibia was very popular in Thailand if I recall correctly. Internet latinos just get offended easily. I don't know why. And it's only an internet thing, too. Never met an IRL latino with any of the complex the ones on Cinemaphile have.
They don't get offended easily you just have to not call them Latinx that's it you can call them moronic hispanics all day and they don't care
>call them moronic hispanics all day and they don't care
This has been a weird cope I've been hearing. in real life practice, I've never seen a Hispanic not get butthurt when insulted. They just won't do shit unless they outnumber the person 10 to 1 or they know they can get them in trouble.
Not even a few weeks ago I was at a venue helping with a stage load-in and some fat Puerto Rican and his fatter teenager sons were caught trying to sneak in and were thrown out by security. The fat rican was talking all this shit to the security guard, "aaayyy homes dont me make blah blah blah in front of my keeedz" one of the nigerian security guards called him and his sons fat ugly hispanics and none of them did shit other than the father trying to make this weird moaning/fake laugh noise over everyone clowning on him as they skulked away.
Cinemaphile anecdotes are lame are unbelievable i know but in general hispanics just seem to be one of the ultimate all-talk races. however, I'm in general talking about 2nd and 3rd generation hispanics who adorn Black person clothing and mannerisms. actual 1st gen immigrants tend to be based (mostly)
People can generally tell when an insult is meant as just a joke/lame troll atempt or comes from genuine hatred
Latin here (Venezuelan, been to Colombia and currently am on brazil), we have a culture of "chalequeo" (basically bullying/mocking someone) were you have to take it like a man and joke back or get more of it. We grow really thick skin because of it.
Tbh, here if you look kind of Asian, everybody will call you Chinese, Black if dark skinned, Turk if kind of Arabic looking
Sounds to me like a twitter problem
>>>/go back/
Latinos get offended because alot of the "Latino content" they get are made by moronic liberal progressives who talk about tacos and burritos and "how do you do fellow Latinx?" and then call other people close minded and racist.
One of the most popular hispanic characters of all time is Speedy Gonzalez for fricks sake.
As for other shows, Amphibia felt very organic in terms of representing a Thai-American, or just a "first generation kid." For that manner. My folks were from Poland and alot of the stuff that Amphibia pokes fun at or references is stuff I went through with a different coat of paint, so its pretty spot on.
Owl House sucked with it's representation. It was alot more "throw in random spanish word to remind you this character is hispanic ;)." Shoe-horned and inorganic crap.
Interesting
Most Latino character that are portrayed are typically like Mexican-American type characters. So it just comes off as them getting upset they aren't portraying a specific type of Mexican.
Latinos are getting mad at other latinos becaise latino is a pretty board concept to place over dozens of countries from two continents.
America is one continent, anon.
It's two in English.
Weird.
If Asia and Europe can be separate continents then sure as frick North and South America have to be
Then why not 20 continent?
Wtf does that have to do with anything? South and North America are only conected by a super siny sliver of land so small it could be split by a human made canal
Those are subregions and you left out Central America. America is one continent.
Based, I almost always mean Mexico or Argentina when I say "America". They are more relevant for cuisine related topics too.
Central America is literally just a part of North America
No.
How is it not part of North America? If Mexico is then so is Central America. Central America has far more to do with Mexico and Southern United States than South America historically. Mesoamerica and the civilizations from there spanned way further north in terms of trade and power than it did into South America. The small sliver of Panama is way more of a real natural barier than the national border between Mexico and Guatemala - Belize.
There are only three North American countries. You can ask Central Americans if you want too.
Bermuda is also in North America anon, and Greenland and a part of France too (Saint Pierre and Miquelon)
Why would I care if Central Americans think they're a separate continent? It makes no sense. At most they're a subcontinent like India.
>Central Americans think they're a separate continent?
What are you talking about? Central America is a subregion. America is a continent.
No, the AmericaS is two continents
Oh yes, so is the Europes and the Asias
Anon, "the Americas" is literally a thing people say and write, no one says "the Asias" or "the Europeas".
So if people start writing the Europes and the Asias then that'll make it true?
NTA but yes, that is how language works
Ok. so The Europes are a really pretty place, they have a nice architecture.
Europe and Asia are one continent each, there are two Americas you fricktard. Look up "continents" on wikipedia.
Wikipedia says that America is one continent.
Are you legit mentally ill?
Not that anon, but if you actually look at the gif of the various models, that is also in your picture, you'd see that America is included as a singular continent in 4 out of 6 models.
Are you color blind anon? They're both green but clearly different shades just like Europe and Asia are close in color
Anon, It's a gif. It changes after a couple of seconds.
Ok my bad
You need to check your eyes, anon.
>Today anons discover that there is no universal definition of continent and that Wikipedia is inconsistent sometimes
I blame the israelites for that, it's always the israelites.
Not sure why you would include me since I specifically pointed out that there's multiple models.
You were part of the discovery <3
Are you?
How do we divide this guy?
Cut him in three pieces.
Not on the English Wikipedia at least, in English the Americas is two continents
>Some Google translate shit
>Some Google translate shit
Without text the pic is pretty pointless anon
Why so mad? You don't like the Europes and Asias?
No idiot, it just demonstrates that people have always thought of the New World as more than just ONE place
Oh my fricking god you morons have you honestly never heard of the continental plates?
Continents aren't some random idea - they're shifting landmasses bordered by active geological faultlines.
Sure thing, ChatGPT. You definitely didn't make that one up.
Continental plates is not the same as continents.
There's continental plates that are completely submerged under water.
Continents is the idea of how to split up the landmasses of the world, and while it has no universally agreed upon way to do that, it sure as frick doesn't include shit under the water.
>implying there are just plates the size of countries that just exist for some reason
Do you even know how big of a clay spinning wheel that'd require? There is no giant floating dishwasher in space for these so called plates either. You sound ridiculous.
Pfft.
I like you.
Continents are 100% random ideas
trips of truth people like Matt that had actually feel and lived how is to be from a different culture and more importantly want to express something beyond mere representation, something that's universal. And they want to do it cause they find it sincerely deep and personal. Unlike Dana who just wanks the twitter trannies for internet points.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
>Unlike Dana who just wanks the twitter trannies for internet points.
Nah, that just was a stunt in order to get in bed with Luz's real life inspiration.
And according to some people, it seems it worked
>And according to some people, it seems it worked
they were fricking well before TOH got made kek
I was not aware of that, and I have no reason to distrust you. Everyone knew Dana was sucking manlet wiener just to get an easy greenlit with the Mouse
We never got a clear picture on what happened between those two, only that the relationship simply sputtered out.
I think Hirsh just realized Dana had no interest in commitment and just went on to frick other women.
Yeah
I remember Luz doing the 'throw in a few Spanish words', and i could not stop thinking about how no one around her would know any Spanish at all. I respect Matt for going out and say that while Anne understands Thai, she cannot speak it
Luz makes Primos look like a tasteful depiction of la raza, and yet for some reason got the Hackletlzman shielding from all that sort of backlash and criticism.
The Owl House's MC was Latina only because the Dana's former roommate and crush, who's also called Luz, is a Latina.
From my observations, Latino viewers either watched TOH without putting much emphasis on the "Representation" and focused more on the romance angle because most Latinos are weebs and that includes watching yuri; or they ignored it. Perhaps the time Latinos cared about the show the most was when the creators voiced their disapproval to the show's "en-bee" character being changed to a man in the LATAM dub and voiced by a man.
>From my observations, Latino viewers either watched TOH without putting much emphasis on the "Representation"
tbh TOH doesn't go around claiming to be "the Latinx show" for latinx people like Primos does.
I still hate the use of spanish on owl house and don't see it as a good representation of anything latino, but at least that show didn't say it was focusing on that culture, it was about gay witches.
>Latinos are weebs and that includes watching yuri
Matate.
>Latino viewers either watched TOH without putting much emphasis on the "Representation" and focused more on the romance angle because most Latinos are weebs and that includes watching yuri; or they ignored it
Can confirm.
This. All the latino representation is being done by a bunch of white liberals who don't know anything and are just using it as clout because they think all le white republicans hate mexicans migratans takin er jerbs. Actual mexicans don't give a fricking shit and most pretty much consider themselves white. Amphibia and McGree have only a finger full of episodes talking about their culture and even still both shows are headline by someone who is actually the same race as the MC so they both get it correct and it's more forgivable for them to put that stuff in.
I think the only Latino working on the industry is Jorge Gutierrez.
Are any of them even actually Latino?
Every single fricking time I see an US gay pretend to belong to a non-US culture and makes tweets, a comic or series about it that suck ass it turns out to be some generic liberal tard with either zero connection to the culture they claim to be part of or they had some grand grand grand mother from there which means it's fricking nothing. I just casually saw a post about this show but seems like one of the guys involved cannot even speak the fricking language. Every immigrant knows this, every person with parents from another countries is bilingual. Americans are either moronic as shit or these people are simply lying about their heritage and ethnicity.
>they had some grand grand grand mother from there
my bro this is 100% of united staters. These mfs will claim they are "irish" or "chinese" or "turkish" but in reality they don't have any connection to these cultures
Yeah I have recently seen some twitter meme where everybody posted their ethnicity and you could always spot the US users because they listed like 14 and clearly don't know what an ethnicity even is. Also those I observed were all EOP so I doubt their lists are even true besides two countries maybe. Also, none of them listen Neanderthals even though most people are sharing some DNA of them, but guess Neanderthals aren't oppressed enough.
>US
Guys they are Anglo/israeli ethnicity in America not even Latino. Look at the writing its not even something that a Latino would write but a white person who has 2% Cherokee blood and thinks he is Indian.
Everytime I see someone talking about their hard life as a black person all the time it's never a black person when you eventually google a photo of them. Even if you had a hard life because of who you are it's very unlikely that you would spend your free time talking about that shit. If something is bothering you for real in real life then you aren't very interested telling the whole fricking world online about it every day instead of using the internet to cheer up and have fun. This is how you can tell liars from actual victims of something apart, a raped person for example would never mention that shit in their bio and tell every rando on the net about it like some shit to be proud of.
But everyone makes fun of the white hicks who just tell the surveys that their ethnicity is “American”.
What do you expect. It's all we've got to not just be generic white person Burger eater and baseball player #73649. When our society is all about standing out and you can't because American culture is pretty boring it's a defense mechanism most of us develop as kids.
Especially now that white American culture is considered racist and problematic people will cling to whatever minute percent of foreign blood in them they have to prove they aren't another beer swelling racist redneck
I remember researching about American culture, mostly indigenous mythology and regional folk tales, and having a pretty good time with it. It's surprising to think that they would rather larp as Europeans or latinos when they already got a pretty cool culture of their own.
>Especially now that white American culture is considered racist and problematic
Only because they try way too hard to turn their land into a neutral zone for every single culture in the world. The thing is, even the shit that would be considered problematic isn't, for the most part, exclusive to them. An example of this is how they treat their history with slavery like this massive deal despite everybody else having done the same thing in a different capacity, adding to their reputation as a self centered collective that is hilariously out of touch with the rest of the world despite being the ones running it. Regardless, they still want to value their lineage and past, which conflicts with this collective to please everyone.
This. Americans treat their culture as if its the blandest thing in the world, and every other culture as exotic and alien, even things that they should be familiar with like mexican, italian and french culture
>I remember researching about American culture, mostly indigenous mythology and regional folk tales, and having a pretty good time with it.
tmai
Why do so many white Americans not just acknowledge that they're just American and that that is fine?
>white
Yes
Because they’re taught that every problem in the US is caused by white people and that by just existing and not removing yourself from the genepool or job market is actively oppressing groups who deserve it more.
American culture is about living in a melting pot and being proud of having ancestors from all over the world, you morons.
By getting butthurt about that behavior, you're trying to suppress American culture.
>By getting butthurt about that behavior, you're trying to suppress American culture.
Tell that to the ones who keep spouting "cultural appropriation" and similar bs.
So the people in this thread?
Sure, why not? I don't get much of this "controversy" either.
>Americans are either moronic as shit or these people are simply lying about their heritage and ethnicity.
The problem with living in a melting pot is that you aren't always exposed to the whole of your heritage, and without proper exposure it can be hard to tell what parts of your experience have been impacted by assimilation and what parts have remained true to your place of origin. It's compounded by American culture being so universal and global that you may not realize how much you have been shaped by it because it is so omnipresent you don't even consider it "culture", it's just how things are. It's the struggle of a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation kids, they want to feel that connection to their heritage but they have a hard time actually pointing out what, where, and how strong that connection is.
It's like how people joke that Americans have no culture when the real issue is that they have been so exposed and saturated in American culture they don't even realize the waters they swim in. American culture has soaked into the bones of so much of the western world that people don't always have the exposure to realize what "American" culture even is.
>a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation kids, they want to feel that connection to their heritage but they have a hard time actually pointing out what, where, and how strong that connection is.
this is probably only affects those of eatern europe or central/south american descent. other nationalities outright shed away their peculiarities to take on an american identity.
>new filipino immigrants literally will double down being american once they become citizens
>british immigrants leaving the UK will americanize everthing about themselves, to the point of shedding their britishness
>etc
Thats not my experience at all. Really I think it depends 100% on how strong nationalism/cultural identity is in the specific country they come from is. Chinese Americans tend to want to be very conservative and perserve as much of their "Chineseness" as possible at home, while acting "American" when with non-Chinese people, same with a lot of Indians.
>Chinese Americans tend to want to be very conservative and perserve as much of their "Chineseness" as possible at home
lol, first and maaaaaybe second gen immigrants, but otherwise they're one of the most assimilated groups
>this is probably only affects those of eatern europe or central/south american descent. other nationalities outright shed away their peculiarities to take on an american identity.
Nah, the Chinese and a lot of other Asians put a big focus on maintaining their culture, as do a good amount of Arabic peoples, and the Hispanics obviously go without saying.
Eastern Europe is actually a good example of the reverse happening. How many people have German or Russian ancestry but exactly zero actual connection to those peoples aside from their looks and their last name? They're not German-Americans or Russian-Americans, they're just plain ol whitebread Americans with Russian or German ancestors.
Usually third gen latinos are barely latinos. Most don't even speak spanish and have already mix with whites but still proclaim that they're "latino".
>My folks were from Poland and alot of the stuff that Amphibia pokes fun at or references is stuff I went through with a different coat of paint
Mind sharing with your experience? Did they try teaching you their native language or were there specific generational differences between you and your parents?
The difference here is that the creator of Amphibia was actually interested in his culture and I think went to Thailand.
I don't think Olw House's "representation" was bad, Luz' heritage was obviously not a main draw of the show or the character, just an aspect.
>get offended by leftists making shitty latinxister rep
>turn into a weird mix of /misc/tard (it wuz da joos), SJWs (terromoto heights is le triggering me, YOUR STAFF IS TOO WHIIIIIITE!!! because they saw that photo of Kline with Povenmire and a bunch of others at Annecy, etc), based morons (cookita means dicky) and occasionally even schizo-socialist crap ("its the CIA again!!!")
they are mutts of both gene and ideology...
umm yep,
we dont like when something is inclusive just for the sake of being inclusive.
it makes us cringe
I agree about Amphibia but I also thought Luz in The Oql House was just fine because it really didn't matter. They weren't selling the show on that at all. She could have been anything at all. At worst, it was slightly cringe, but it just didn't matter.
Primos seems to be all about the Latino aspect though so far I do feel like the outrage might still be an "extremely online" thing, people on Twitter are always offended by everything at all times no matter what so I don't give a damn about their opinions on anything except to think they're all insane.
Once the show comes put, maybe normal people who aren't psychotic twitter people really will have a very good reason to be offended by it, though. But that would require talking to normal people about the show instead.
This is a great reply, and trips too, damn it's just Monday and you choose to be based already.
Not only speedy, his cousin Slowpoke Rodriguez was loved as well: "Siempre con cohetillo para cualquier pedo".
About Owl House I can point out that I miss those homosexuals that complained about Luz not being a good latina because she was not craving for wiener, which I find really funny because it was true, every single one of my female cousins were pregnant at age 15 or 17 some of them practice abortion some others didn't but it is true, as soon as they reach teenages some Mayan or Aztec deity makes them feel need for being bred! If they wanted to make a good representation, Luz could NOT be a lesbian for the entire show.
She isn't, she Dominican and bi.
>Internet latinos just get offended easily.
Frick off, they love speedy gonzales.
Oh those aren't the same people, you're talking like two generations back.
Now if you're getting offended over Primos then you're just thin skinned.
>A character thats nearly 70 years old
>At a time were racism was normal
Cuban here.
Primos hate is less on the show itself and more so part of hispanics own current culture war with chicanos. Hispanics already have a pretty bad history with Americans and white people manipulating their land, government, culutre, way of life and so on. Even wtih America's days of colonialism and South American CIA bullshit American's in general still have this "holier than though" attitude over everything.
As many Hispanics immigrate to the United States there is a new younger generation of Latino-American's that are reffered to as Chicanos. Chicanos, as much as they deny it, are more cut from the American cloth then their home heritage. Because of this they often have this smugness ingrained in them that a lot of MAerican's have. but now what makes it diffrent is they are actually Hispanic so they often speak with a form of authority and other people treat them as such. So now you have Hispanic's that are more similiar to United States way of thinking saying things like "We should change the entire language of how a culutre speaks" with zero self-awerness of how extremly colonialist and white saviory this sort of stuff is. Primos hate if anything is more symbollic of this divide between home birthed latino and the Chicanos.
Manifest Destiny never died, it simply got rebranded to be viewed as more "ethical" and "mindful politics". And the it's frustrating seeing other latino's buy into.
And before you gays get up my ass, of course I don't mean ALL Americans. But you guys know exactly what I mean with the ongoing current American identity polotics where either you are a moral saint that agree's everything about my beliefs with no compromise or you don't and thus evil and must die.
I'm a white American, and I'd like if all three of those groups got wiped.
Polk should have finished the job.
Polk?
Kay.
American Preisdent that started Mexican-American War.
>Hispanics already have a pretty bad history with Americans and white people manipulating their land, government, culutre, way of life and so on
Almost your entire culture and government comes from white people. Hell aren't Cubans mostly white?
Online wokes are unironically more racists than most rightwingers I have met in my life. And even the nazi hools that are worse are at least honest about their ideology and intentions. Twitterinas and tumlerinas praise themselves as the ones with moral high ground and pretend to speak for cultures they don't belong to while believing to be better than them and knowing better than them. And if you disagree it doesn't matter if you are an actual Mexican, an Ethiopian or a woman from Afghanistan, you are literally the devil and hitler and must be cancelled at best and killed at worst.
Social media made everybody mentally ill but what do you expect from people who literally brag with their mental illnesses online?
>Twitterinas and tumlerinas praise themselves as the ones with moral high ground and pretend to speak for cultures they don't belong to while believing to be better than them and knowing better than them
I hate to break it to you but most minority youths in the USA have pretty much the same views as them anon
The moment the minority youth gain the same view as them as the moment they become disconnected from those minorities anon. A woke muslim raised in the west is going to be in for a surprise if they meet muslims who live in or are still connected to the actual islamic world, and the same goes for most immigrant cultures
>smugness ingrained in them
>can't claim to be Latino because the natives hate them and can't truly be "American" because to Americans that means white or black
Latinos hate the US-born ones that don't speak the language and buy into American shit, but the "culture war" isn't one-sided or without reason.
Yeah, I don't know what this moron is on. I'm frickin Cuban-American and none of us are "Chicanos" that term is reserved for Mexican/Central Americans who come to America and and assimilate into a a kind of generic Californian ghetto culture. Very lame. As for being white, 70%ish of Cubans are light-skinned Spanish/Native descended the other percentage are more dark-skinned and descended from slaves brought to work large sugar plantations. I am of the Spanish variety but most American Cubans are just people who bailed before or after Castro took power. Mine left before, but we're one community as a result and have no hostility based on race.
>most American Cubans are just people who bailed before or after Castro took power
As opposed to the ones who bailed the exact moment Castro took power?
Cubans have only a small percentage of native ancestry cause most of the natives were wiped out fairly early on, Cuba as a country is one of the whitest Latin American countries on average
>I'm frickin cuban-american
I pity you for real muttley de la mutt
>70%ish of Cubans are light-skinned Spanish/Native descended
70% of the Cubans I know are black. Cope.
>and none of us are "Chicanos"
Chicano to Latinos pretty means "gringo that speaks spanish"
American CHIs add a bunch of region of origin based definitions and other dumb shit like "gringo means white" or chicano being mex-exclusive terms that no LatAm ever uses.
The problem is that "latinos" representation in US media is targeted towards US "latino" diaspora, which is foreign and non-representative of actual LatAm.
Damn, cry me a river that the americans make shit for themselves
Problem is they act like its for and depicts more
Primos depicts mexicans living in los angeles, i don't why homies are mad
I meant more in general
This. Just look at Genndy Tartakovsky’s shows for an example.
>samurai jack
okay you need to be next level sensitive to get offended by this one
They couldn't even cast an Asian actor for the lead role. It's the perfect example of trying to make it for others when it's really for Los Angeles.
los angeles is in japan you moron
Excellent bait, it even reads like a real post
This. Cinemaphile will give validity to twittertards crying as long as its a minority group doing it. If it was white people crying and b***hing nobody would care but suddenly its a bunch of latino twitter zoomers and the entire world needs to stop to hear what they have to say.
I do this to make chicanos and americans cry tbh
>Internet latinos just get offended easily.
You mean americans
Latino's born in america are just crybabies like every other american
A big difference here is that with PrImos the Latino aspect is a big part of it. With Amphibia and Molly them being Thai isn't the main focus. Not to say that there aren't episodes that have their heritage as a central component but that they have other stuff going for then.
>Internet latinos just get offended easily.
Also this
Latinx?
pronounce it like french, "Luh-tinks"
The only people in the world who get mad about cartoons are people who live in America, its that simple.
>Internet latinos just get offended easily.
No
Only American Latinos are easily offended, real Latin Americans have real problems in life to deal with and dont make up issues to whine about
The amount of seethe this post generated proves your point. hispanics on the internet are nowhere near as thick skinned as they claim to be.
This. Most adults across cultures dont watch cartoons or give a frick about this kind of stuff. Pretty much every website outside of facebook/insta/twitter/tiktok is a single loosely connected echo chamber of maladjusted adults who maybe make up 5% of unique users on the internet while accounting for 80% of the traffic.
>Internet latinos just get offended easily
not really, latinx are just tired of the same concept. all series including them are about chicanos in America
>Never met an IRL latino with any of the complex the ones on Cinemaphile have.
couldn't be more wrong kek
>random latam dev group i'm in
>half the post are people making fun of gringos
>"latino backlash"
>implying Cinemaphile shitposting matters
who gives a crap about what happens on the internet?
Most of the backlash is actually from the spanish speaking sphere. And the voice actress went full pol on twitter in public.
Reminds me of what happened with Christy Romano.
I'm white, but what do you mean internet latinos get offended easily? Do you real mean real deal Mexicans who have to deal with cartel violence every day, not latinxes? They're not offended, they're just properly pointing out a clownish israeli-latinx-valley girl-gringo's interpretation of their culture. One of the kids in the show is called Nacho and they live in Earthquake Heights. They have every right to laugh or be furious at such an embarrassing Californian take of their culture.
>be furious at such an embarrassing Californian take of their culture.
This is being offended
It's crazy how Latinos have this reputation of "not caring" when all their behavior on the internet shows the opposite
The change came when LatinX started getting pushed by liberals in the USA. It's a foreign influence trying to change Latin society, ignorantly trying to remove gender from a language that uses masculine and feminine from pretty much every word.
>Internet Latinos get offended easily
angry offended Latinos reply to say they don't get offended easily
jajajajajajajaja
The latinos on Cinemaphile desperately want to be white. At least 60 percent of racially charged posts on this site are made by Latinos.
>molly with no socks
Apparently the paws don't dissuade the foot fetishists. Worth a shot, I suppose.
Molly's feet look delicious.
Paws or not. Even as as a non-footgay I yield and say they're cute.
We are all brothers please stop the fighting
Molly is a mutt, so the entire country of Thailand took offense to her existence representing their culture.
I'm sure Thailand, as the capital for child prostitution in the world, is very glad to be represented by a tiny girl.
I doubt they would care considering how that racemixing couple would at best made her eyes be bigger and lighter colored than usual
Even if they were, I don't think 4 or 5 people would be noisy enough to be heard.
what ethnicity is Molly, again?
Thairish.
She never actually does anything about her irish side though, which kind of bugs me.
Heh.
It's a kids show she's not gonna get drunk or have a dozen babies.
Molly is a literal mutt spawn of Satan
So people are mad because the main character has a big family? I'm white and I have over 20 cousins.
> 20 cousins
Any hot ones?
No. It's that there was some google translate level spanish frickups in the title song and characters, and when called out on it, creators started b***hing about colonialisim, and said spanish was inauthetic to latin america. In english.
Hell, not being a moron and just improving shit without sperging out would have passed.
my only problem is that it fricking looks gay
Amphibia and Molly Mcgee making 1 or 2 episodes about Thai culture where they actually represent the stuff well isn't gonna upset anyone. What will upset people is putting shoe tossing as a sign of culture when its a sign that gang warfare is in the area.
I don't care about Primos at all but it's undeniable that they should have done their fricking research, and regardless of the excessive outrage from people taking it too far, there is a level of ignorance present in that show that deserves to be criticized.
>What will upset people is putting shoe tossing as a sign of culture when its a sign that gang warfare is in the area.
Who knows, maybe gang warfare is like the overarching narrative of the show.
Highly doubt it
This. Primos's only chance to be a hit is diving deep into mexican culture (or whatever the MC is) with background gags only people who grew up or are growing up with a big mexican family could get.
For starters, that girl named Cuquita. If they do nothing with that name it would pass as one of the greatest oversights in TV's history.
>that girl named Cuquita
Maybe her name is Concepción
they could name her chochita, coñito, panochita... the options are endless
>Primos turns out to be like The Wire but animated and for kids
>all about Hispanic gangs in L.A.
>characters regularly get shot to death
>mfw
I would 100% watch that.
Me too, it would actually be kind of awesome to start out with something that seems sanitized and then actually deal with the fact that gang violence is a fact of life for so many kids, I would have a ton of respect for that.
So it's this all over again?
KEK! I'm absolutely sure this was made by pol lurker just to grind some chaps!
I only ever associate graffiti with filth and disorder, do people really treat it as some cultural badge of honor?
I could maybe understand it if they had use murals, but it's all fricking tagging.
Black culture is purposely shit just to epicly own whitey
pocks
Asians just watch anime instead
Some people got mad Anne was brown insisting Thais are white, lmao.
>which has apparently even spread to Hailey's On It
That's a lie. Hailey's on It! is too boring for anyone to care about controversies surrounding the ethnicity of its characters.
The taco clip suddenly got bombarded by dislikes after the Primos trailer came out, it's now sitting at like 1k+ dislikes
Is either of the MCs in Hailey's On It even Latino?
Hailey is Hawaiian and Scott's VA is canadian-filipino.
I think they just saw two brown skinned characters eating a taco and assumed it was another lazy mexican stereotype.
Which is kinda lazy on their part to assume, which makes this whole thing pretty ironic.
I just can't stop seeing the boys resemblance to Xandir from Drawn Together.
The Thai stuff in Molly didn't piss anyone off. It's that Bill and Bob opted to depict Molly's white Irish side as essentially being a handicap. She could have dressed in a leprechaun costume for all I care otherwise (like Abby did).
Why the frick would they review bomb a HOI video? One that is just about cooking a taco. Did the kimchi reference trigger them or something? This makes no sense. Like I'm not really seeing proof it was the Primos people, but I'm not really seeing any other explanation either. Latinxes deserve to be genocided.
Personally I think the cultural reference stuff rarely doesn't suck. It was annoying and self-serving in Amphibia, pandering and offensive in TGAMM, and the Hawaii stuff in HOI feels tacked on out of necessity.
>It's that Bill and Bob opted to depict Molly's white Irish side as essentially being a handicap
that only got YOU mad
Oh just hand him a potato to dunk in his beer and he’ll be fine.
Off topic, but how are you able to see the dislikes again?
Probably using an extension.
They didn't actually remove the dislikes, as much they just disabled the visuals showing them, so using the underlying data all the extension needs to do is just visualize the numbers.
This is to say, a browser extension. There are various ones that can do that, easily findable with your search engine of choice for your browser of choice.
thailand is a singular culture relatively speaking
latino isn't just refering to one place, but an entire continents where each country has its customs and dialects
basically, its was a mindfield waiting to happen and for a woke business like disney, people got their eyes on everything they do
Pretty much. You know how there are all kinds of national and ethnic animosities that linger to this day in Europe? The same applies to Latin America. Trying to mix elements of one country's culture into another this ignorantly is something only the most superficial calarts activist wannabe could achieve.
Inaccurate to true Thai culture. Why isn't Anne selling her nudes on social media?
Why isn't she prostituting herself along with her mother? Why isn't Mr. Boonchuy dolled up and fricked in the ass? baka
Just the tip of the iceberg to Thai degeneracy that the show neglects
Well she did sell herself in that GF episode.
They did, after mourning their uncle Gara.
>Oum's magic trick
I would buy 3 bottles of their most expensive liquor just for a front seat to that.
Where was this backlash anyway, I want to see this
I miss the time brownies were relegated to side or token characters and everyone was white by default.
>not a single (you)
Ouch. How embarrassing.
I guess besides there being much less Thai-Americans around and that most Thais don't care about Disney cartoons unlike Hispanics, both shows seemed to be more respectful towards Thai culture and the way second or third-generation Thai-Americans get along. It isn't like Anne used bad Thai grammar, or Molly insulted King Vajiralongkorn.
Just curious, for any Thais here, how strict are your lese-majeste laws? Would you get in jail if you called the king a poophead, or would it have to be more serious?
Everybody except for Cinemaphile loved the Molly Thai episode
It's funny how the coloreds hate being depicted as anything different to white people but also hate white people.
Latinos want to have light skin, Asians want to have rounder eyes, Blacks want to not be poor, etc.
>WE WUZ THAI N SHIEEET
The Thai shilling in Ghosturd and the Muttly McShit Show is honestly pathetic and obviously a desperate attempt by the showrunner to pander to the Asian audience when the MC herself is a literal mutt with no culture to speak of. The show should have just tried to stick to being an unfunny irrelevant hapa mutt show instead of trying to wewuzzing as a culture that the MC herself has no ground to even try to relate to. To no one surprise, the show takes a huge Ls in ratings. What an embarrassment.
Frick, Dtvapedos are annoying.
>"Uhhh you shat on brown girl cartoon #3631? I HOPE YOU ALL DIE."
Touch grass
Is she a doggie?
Bunny.
Somebody needs to edit the phone out of her hands so that can be POV of me about to eat her fricking box
Has the show aired?
The creator of Ampibia is an actual Thai descent.
Destiny tends to show white mid class senpai dynamics in brown families. Truth is most brown kids dont talk back to their parents lest they get beat and they dont treat their parents as friends. Also, note that both Primos and Haileys on it has a character with that awful butch neon hair do. I dont know how many latino senpaitachi have that
I'm mad that they didn't really bring up Molly's Irish background
I assume they had better reception because
1) The characters aren't butt-ugly
2) The creator hasn't shittalked the same culture she wants to appeal to with their show
Probably helps that Thailand Isn't neighbor with, or has had multiple conflicts, both directly and indirectly, with the US, unlike many LatAm countries, especially Mexico.
Culturally, they probably give much less of a shit about the US.
God Molly looks so ugly
How does Anne look better despite being in a swamp?
Are thais really this degenerate?
Those I know are normal. It's either some american shit or the association exists because of the prostitution tourism in Thailand.
How do you explain Martini Artnugan?
No fricking idea who that is. Google only shows me some rando on social media. I don't use social merda and some posting addicted gays on there aren't personalities.
Thai e-celeb who is famous for doing amazing things with her ass.
I am ashamed to know who she is.
I'm a nip, so I am used to weeaboos and otaku and obsessed transexuals doing....unseemly things with Japanese culture.
There's nothing WRONG with someone making hong kong fooey, or some weird riddiculous looking stereotype, or even bucktoothed IJA navy men to be punched by superman. It's fictional, just like a man from an exploding planet.
And there's plenty of Japanese stories being told. And not very japanese stories told by japanese. And stuff in between, like Stan Sakai's 兎用心棒 which really aren't availble in Japan. Huh. TTS caught that.
I mean some hormonally unbalanced transexuals can scream all they want about Bridget, or Baiken, or persona characters, or whatever, it's not that important.
how degenerate? They don't have christhomosexualry rules for sex.
Bullshit, nearly no media show the japanese in a negative/ugly way and the very few who do call japan the best country ever with giant robots and other sci fi bullshit ignoring the actual problems your country has, you would have a point if you were chinese though.
So, what's the problem with Hailey supposed to be?
It was standing next to Primos and took splash damage.
I have not heard anyone mention anyone mention Hailey in Primos discussion, the dislike thing is more of disliking Disney videos as a form of protest in general.
That's what I meant. Hailey is the closest show premiere-wise to Primos, and since Disney is taking measures to mute criticism of Primos across platforms, Hailey has become an indirect target.
>the dislike thing is more of disliking Disney videos as a form of protest in general.
Imagine disliking Hailey not because it’s bad but because of the fact that it’s produced by Disney who are also producing Primos.
I think its literally because her video was next to Primos and had a taco in the title, kek
Latinos have shown themselves to be worse than SJWs and SU fans.
"POC" is such a moronic term. Just say browns. It's not much of a colour when their entire ethnic group is just... brown skin black hair. Was "POC" intended as an ironic term? I guess in that sense it's pretty funny.
It literally means anyone who isn't white, which is why they then made BIPoC when they realized that PoC wasn't exclusive enough.
Literally only US tards use it, other cultures and nations refer to each other by the nation or ethnicity instead of categorizing all of humanity into two groups.
Not all non-whites have dark skin or black hair though. I do agree it's a pretty stupid term though, and entirely American-centric
I just love how the civil rights movements fought for so many years to remove the term colored people as a thing, only for white liberals to bring it back years later claiming its a good term.
I love how they worship blacks so hard they had to change again their safeword and put them apart and in front with BIPOC (also adding indigenous there, as if they give a damn)
They always pander to something-american, no the real ones.
Like the Primos thing, they are pandering to latinx-american, not to latinx folk.
Why did Matt like this post?
Hard to read with that moronic X everywhere. Do americans do that with other "cultures" and countries too?
I am waiting for GerXs instead of Germans because "man" makes it gendered or some shit.
He's a 2nd gen himself so some of this "controversy" probably hits home for him and also because every industry shmuck is coming out of the woodworks to defend/support Primos and its crew.
Phil Lord is self-hating cracker. Of course he's bootlicking this trash.
That would explain why the newest season of Clone High is such a massive step down.
>characters are depicted as loud morons
>actual mexicans and such complain and explain why they cannot relate
>creators and fans backpedal and pretend the show was only depicted murricans with some latino grandparents or some shit
So they agree that moronation and loudness is an american trait?
He's completely correct though Asian-Americans (of any Asian race) are so far removed from the actual Asia country that it's basically not the same culture at all. This is the equivalent of thinking Parasite somehow speaks to the Korean-American experience or the reverse that the Roof-Koreans are relatable to the average Korean besides "yeah I'd shoot a fricker who tried to take my stuff".
The same would apply to the Mexicans, no shit once your family has lived in the US for even just 50 years you're not the same as the people who live in your grandparents home country.
>hurr durr they are just envious of loud monkeys
What a great post and criticism. Do I get that right that everybody is only defending it because they are the same sort of mutt degenerates that cannot even speak the original language of the heritage they claim to be proud of?
More like they don't want to lose their jobs and getting blacklisted for not being woke enough. Still a coward take on this whole debacle.
Honestly this is why I would never use social media or not much. I would maybe casually post an artwork or an announcement and pretend to be absent otherwise.
That way you can easily skip all the drama by simply never saying anything. People can't come at you and accuse you of shit if you never answer on principle.
It's such a simple solution, yet people are too addicted to the dopamine rush social media gives.
Dios mio el americano
>LatinX
I can't believe she's just casually using slurs on Twitter
Latines?
What?
Was the latinx not dumb enough?
Ironically it came about because Latinx was too stupid and this was supposedly a better alternative.
Latine makes way more sense than Latinx linguistically speaking
>it's not "homie", it's "Black person".
It's actually more linguistically correct if anything. Latinx is some dumb bullshit term created by English speakers, Spanish doesn't work like that. Latine also isn't really a word, but it's closer to how a gender neutral term for Latino/Latina would actually be formed.
Hence why Latin People or Latin-Americans are both much better.
>it's closer to how a gender neutral term for Latino/Latina would actually be formed.
No, just use Latino as neutral like in Spanish.
If you REALLY need a gender-neutral term for Latino-Latina, just use Latin American.
I'll use the word latino, thank you.
I use that too, but what I said was more for stupid progressives that cannot cope with the fact that Spanish is a gendered Language.
but these people hate the 'american' part of that and want to categorize their ethnic group as separate from America. The irony being that said people are far and away more culturally American than the ethnic groups they identify with
It's just an abbreviation bro.
I know, it's a stupid distinction to make. Tell them that.
That's why as much as the anti-diversity aspects of the "you're not african-american, you're just american!" argument have bothered me in the past, it's really hard to argue with the core point. A "latino-americano, latinx, chicano" whatever kind of person has way, way more in common with other americans than they do with whatever peoples they are connecting back to with that, like cultural preservation is fine but cutting a line between yourself and your fellow americans can be really toxic. It creates a fundamental separation in your mind. It just creates more division. I just think most people who make those arguments tend to use it as a stealthy way to slide in some 'Well, latin-american peoples aren't REALLY american, right? Because otherwise they'd just call themselves American. So we should inherently view them as foreign invaders." sort of an extension of the old "we can't trust catholics because they'll always be more loyal to the pope than the president" argument.
I'm not an expert in Romance languages, but wouldn't "Latini" be more correct. Italians do use the "I" for gender neutral things.
>Latinx is some dumb bullshit term created by English speakers
earliest usages of the term come from the DIY Punk zine scene circa 1980/1990, at least in my country (Argentina).
Yeah but that was probably the name of a Latin American Music event, not Progressives trying to change a language for being gendered.
oh no they are 100% precursors to the progressive line. Punk cliques espoused rad fem rhetoric and arguments about borderless nations well before the globohomosexual started using them as division tools.
Part of it was imported from the late 80s zine scene in the USA, other were local developments.
t. argie music collector
Punks are cultural betrayers anyways
They are both bullshit. The entire language is built on two pronouns, mindbreaking burgers who proceeded to "fix" the language by shoehorning something that was incompatible with it.
Blame Hispanics for having their moronic gendered language for everything. Kind of stupid to be honest.
This is repulsive.
>i SWEAR i'm not racist but those poor savages don't have a right to talk
never trust a lib
You think we are inmune to globohomo? Latine is our own take on it.
But it's even more moronic. The original pushers wanted to replaced EVERY GENDERED WORD WITH E, butchering the shit out the language.
It got meme'd into the ground.
>But it's even more moronic. The original pushers wanted to replaced EVERY GENDERED WORD WITH E, butchering the shit out the language.
Chupe mi hueves, putes. Holy frick that's bad.
kek not like that, only putes gets replaced there.
Alright. I am STEALING that pronunciation, when I have chicanes to moderately insult.
>this is a show about latinx in los angeles. not latines in latinoamerica
parroting this shit like you're talking down to the dumb masses just fricking slays me.
I understand that they're afraid of being cultureless white people but why co-opt their heritage like it's a fricking manifest destiny campaing AKA inclusive speech.
It's been a thing Amerifats have been doing in animation for ages.
>latines
Is this related to the "compañere" shitshow?
But Haily isn't latino she's polynesian??
She is Hawaiian and since her immediate Family was born after Hawaii became a state that means whe is a filthy Gringo.
Can Americans actually make characters that aren't American and born in America?
For all that woke shitting that people complain about I have yet to see black characters that aren't just US gays. It's all just all the same US gays with a different tone instead of anything actually diverse.
Yes but why would we?
Why not?
There have been a few but it mostly boiling down to writing what you know and knowing your audience. Same reason why Japanese anime tends to take place in Japan 90% of the time.
Because wokegays claim that they want diversity but then proceed to make a series with 70 Murrigays.
Does immigration really not exist in your country? Actual immigration, nowadays I mean. With people that weren't born there that actually speak other languages.
>Does immigration really not exist in your country?
Trust me, we really don't want it to exist.
Because nobody who isn't from America can relate to Americans. Other countries are much closer to your own culture it's mainly the US and maybe Indians and Chinese that are fricking aliens. If an US cartoon had at least a Russian, German or Serbian sometimes there was at least someone more normal among the typical LA characters.
How is that America's problem?
Because your public isn't american you moron
You are now.
Finally. I am tired of being youpoor. Frick you Trudeau you homosexual frog.
basado
No, because every country in the world belongs to America.
Then how the bloody hell are we supposed to leave?
>Can Americans actually make characters that aren't American and born in America?
Kappa Mikey technically.
This is such a weird complaint since a lot of media made from other countries usually take place in the country they were made in, when they aren't using fantasy lands.
Read what I said. I didn't talk about the setting but the characters. For a country that gets hyped and being made fun of for being all about immigration Americans surely have rarely ever seen a non-American in their lifetime. Most cannot tell Russian apart from Arabic either and you never see non-native Americans in fiction because even woketards are afraid of anybody not born in LA I guess. Series from my country are full of Russians, Poles, Turks and the likes. Maybe there is no recent immigration in the US or most US gays live in homogeneous small towns, no idea. Even the smallest towns in most Euro countries have immigrants from everywhere and not just now/the last decade.
So globohomosexual is now good or something?
What does depictions of a country's own diverse population have to do with gay?
I don't know, this board can't decide whether focusing on your own country is a good or bad thing.
>Read what I said. I didn't talk about the setting but the characters.
What I said can apply to characters too though. If a character comes from a Japanese series, more than likely they'll be Japanese. If the character comes from a French series, more than likely they'll be French. It's as simple as writing what you and your audience know.
Even then, there are American series that have non American characters. Genndy Tartakovsky's newest series stars Brits.
It sounds like you really don't know about the US and are basing all your knowledge on LA cartoons.
Yeah but LA cartoons are the majority what we get now sadly. Would watch more Texan series or a cartoon with Florida man as MC.
Koala Man is the closest we'll get to a Florida Man cartoon
>now
Oh anon
Where are you even from?
We need those flags like they have in Cinemaphile.
>We need those flags like they have in Cinemaphile.
believe me we don't
I sometimes wish I could see them, not even to shitpost, out of sheer interest. I feel like you would spot some differences at some point. Think Moot once said that he could often tell the nationality of an anon by just looking at his post. The boards that have them are too crazy and shitposting heavy to learn much I think.
Funny this has been brought up since there actually has been a surge of native African representation in the media. Disney and CN greenlit some shows based on Africa.
Because it's always something-Americans that are the showrunners. It's really hard to become a showrunner if you're not a US citizen, or Japanese or maybe French. The only scenario I can imagine is if someone moves from Thailand or whatever to the US in their early teens through their parents who have white-collar jobs that can get them visas.
Hailey is AMWF hapa
>doom and nostrafort thread is gone
>the 50 primos threads controversy ones are still up
Sad we can't actually talk about real LATAMS making content and comics and that privilege was relegated to LAgays
Are there any currently running cartoons made by them? I hate US shit too but it's the only stuff on Cinemaphile people make threads of
Depends
Ever seen SARCHOCH?
They finished adapting Anfibio (old Oveja's comic) and they just teased that they are doing Dedsecks next https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enCXRNKcYh4
I love the Jerry - SARCHOCH readings/adaptation of their comics, like in a non-drama legit enjoyable matter. Unfortunately you need to know spanish for those
Pretty hyped for them to "adapt"/"animate"/whatever the rest of nostrafort comics
>Incel: the character
No thanks
Give Oveja all the shit you want but you can't deny his comics are a reflection of his current state of mind and made with an idea and intent on them, rather than just getting something out for the sake of getting something out.
They are bad but holy frick they are fascinating, mainly because he translated his thoughts to fiction and the guy is a fricking weirdo. Shame the rest of the Nostra comics aren't like that
The other guys are too lazy too do something
the dedication that those guys put making those videos is more than the dedication that the hole nostrafort crew put making the comics
>release one or two comics every year
what was dun thinking :v?! the fanbase died fast xd
>2
Is it 2?
I am pretty sure the line of comics was like a dozen with like 2 or 3 issues each
Yeah here says it was like 8 + the touhou doujinshis they made, and each release had like -6 issues
That el Güero Balazos?
>:v
Kys underage
>:v
Siento decirtelo hombre pero esto no es 2016
Why is there no new american made cartoon that has a white lead? It's either mixed Asians or hispanics. We'll take care of our own ethnicity so go do your own. I'm tired of them pretending to know our culture.
Because the people in charge don't wanna.
The lead character of Hamster and Gretel literally has blonde hair and blue eyes.
Ohhh my fricking GOD
Do you mother frickers have anything better to complain about than fricking RACES in fricking CARTOONS!? Damn, I'm sick of seeing this bullshit all over the place. Like damn. You think one character is just brown, but NOPE THEY'RE ASIAN FROM A SMALL FRICKING PLACE THAT NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FRICK ABOUT.
Does this shit actually entertain you people? Tell me if it does. If it's some sort of moron activity, then TELL ME NOW. Otherwise, you're fricking mental if you take this shit seriously. I'm so fricking tired of this race bullshit, oh my GODDDDD. It's killing me, I swear. Most of these cartoons are decent, at best. But it's only adults who do all this fricking arguing. Like damn. Oh my god. Stop it. Leave it alone. Leave these cartoons alone. Damn.
There's nothing wrong with the show. How many of you actually grew up in East LA?
the thing that's wrong with the show is the factr that americans think that all latinamerican people are the same thing, which is just not true, argentineans cringe to the idea to be compared with mexicans and colombians, because their culture is more akin to that of italians, and the same could be said if you compare mexicans wih cubans and peruvians. Latinamerica is diverse not only between it's nations, but also inside of them.
Yeah, I don't see what all the fuss is over. Mexicans from East LA are different from the ones you'd find in the valley or other places regionally close. This strikes me as a show about this tiny part of Mexican culture in this region rather than an example of what all Mexicans from all regions in America including those in Latin America are like.
It's stupid outrage.
>argentineans cringe to the idea to be compared with mexicans and colombians, because their culture is more akin to that of italians
>mfw porteños cucked the rest of the country so hard everyone thinks Argentina ends at Buenos Aires
everyone besides Cinemaphile really liked TGAMM's Thai representation episode from what I read.
also Amphibia is literally made by someone of Thai descent so all the shit in the show is PRETTY informed (there's an entire episode in S3 which is basically just them showing a bunch of different aspects of Thai culture through the Plantar family). I genuinely can't think of anyone who has ever been offended by the fact that Anne is fricking Thai.
no one said the Thai stuff in Amphibia was poorly made, its just that it happened kind of an annoyingly amount. especially by the episode you posted, when the stakes were much higher and people really just wanted the show to go back to Amphibia at that point. that being said, irl Mutt Stinky himself is a race baiter
no one is going to criticize TGAMM's Thai episode off anonymous channels because the crux of the issue lies in that Molly's Irish side has been presented generally poorly, and the Thai episode presented an issue that in a way sort of belittled Molly and Pete's heritage. you point this out on any other site, you get called an alt-right trumpist neo-nazi whatever (even if you aren't a burger) because any sort of pride for a European based heritage is le bad and triggering. the actual Thai stuff in the episode was good though, artistically even better representing than Spongefilterphibia
funny, Amphibia had Anne face the same issue Molly did with spicy food, but it was pointed out to simply being an upbringing issue rather than a genetic weakness
idk man the Thai stuff in Amphibia didn't really seem like it happened "an annoyingly amount". I can only really recall the temple episode and Lily Pad-Thai being the only two episodes that really focused on something like that. I can give you the temple episode being annoying but all of S3 shares the "post-True Colors" issue anyways.
Wasn't there an episode in Newtopia where Anne wanted hot food because she didn't get to try it when she visited Thailand?
>everyone besides Cinemaphile really liked TGAMM's Thai representation
WRONG. Molly's show being flopped and not getting a season 3 is a sign that no one really likes the show with its forced Thai pandering for its mutt protagonist. Molly doesn't deserve to be called Thai, she's a mutt abomination.
That's a lot of hatred for a cartoon. Did Molly kill your parents or something?
You will never have a culture of your own. You have no place in society. You will never experience a true sense of belonging. You will always be an outcast. You are a mutt.
Eh, you are a citizen of a country, that's where you belong.
Christ that's a lot of seething. Did you get bullied by someone who was half Mexican?
>Molly's show being flopped and not getting a season 3 is a sign that no one really likes the show with its forced Thai pandering for its mutt protagonist
No they just want Big City Greens nothing deep much, at all worse it's because GP can't relate to Molly.
Primos looks like a stereotypical Hispanic show. Hispanics don't eat tacos and get hit by the slipper all day. It's pretty basic.
As for those other shows, it's white liberals that love to promote them. Actual ethnic people from what i've experience think it's pandering and stereotypical but ultimately harmless even if It makes some liberal think they're enlightened for watching it. Seriously there's a lot of them.
Latinos care way too much about their culture
Unrelated but I despise americans with immigrant parents that aren't bilingual. Why is this even a thing there? Everybody speaks at least three languages here if their parents or grandparents came from elsewhere. How can you just ignore your heritage and not use the opportunity to teach your kids another language? If you have an Italian or Polish surname and cannot speak the respective language you are rightfully being made fun of in my country and everybody talks to you in Italian or Polish because they rightfully assume you would understand it. How can anybody be so plebeian that they let their kid become a true American without any trait of their original country and culture, maybe even give them a fricking anglo name?
Americans are all about assimilation. Or at least they were.
There are few things in life as helpful as being able to speak more than one language. Parents who don't pass down their mother tongue to their kids are doing them a huge disservice.
I've seen it go the other way. There are immigrants who refuse to learn English and have monolingual families. This whole country is one big Tower of Babel.
But thats not "being able to speak more than one language". Of course its beyond moronic to not learn the de facto lingua franca of the place you live in.
>refusing to pass down mother tongue
>refusing to learn english
Fellas, no need to argue. The truth is that in America both of those choices are acceptable. Being American is about being stubborn and stupid. How you reach that point is up to you.
Same. It also makes learning even more languages from the same family easy. I learned Italian as little kid because my mother is from there and learning to read French well enough to read French comics and non-fiction was a pretty fast process. Emphasis on "reading", not speaking or understanding spoken language. But still something. I know a bunch of guys that speak five languages, mostly people from Maghreb states or Serbia that got their first jobs from Italians here.
This. I hate my mom for not teaching me Tagalog.
Bummer anon
>not teaching me Tagalog
not really useful outside the capital city an nearby states. flips outside the capital outright REFUSE to speak tagalog in favor of their local bisaya, ilokano, hiligaynon, cebuano, waray, tausug etc. they would rather speak english to capital city people rather than attempt broken tagalog.
Great thing is also that if you learn a Romance language learning the others as well as Latin becomes way easier, that gives you a great advantage if you ever want to read old literature or get into history.
and then there's interlingua chads
Same with Canada. Frick North America altogether.
There is no such thing as a true American, that's just mutt cope.
I noticed that too but I would respect all those wokes with creative ethnicity more if they could actually talk in Mexican, Irish or Ethiopian or whatever place they claim to be part of because of 2% of the DNA or something. If you cannot speak a language you don't belong to that culture, full stop.
Even if you can speak it you don't necessarily belong to it since everybody with a brain can learn them, but being unable to understand the language is the surest sign that you aren't related to the culture.
>Irish
It's Gaelic actually. Unless you mean Irish Gaelic specifically.
I'm still mad at my dad for not teaching me Spanish as a small kid, he tried once I was older but by then I was old enough that it became way harder than it would have been if he had done it while I was a baby.
this is usually the parent's fault
most european languages (Gascon, Asturian, Lingurian, Frisian, Rusyn, Moksha, Jamtlandic, Gagauz, Moravian, Cornish,...) are on the verge of disappearing because nationalist cucks forced standardized languages on everyone, and the moronic boomers bought into it
This is why there are still places in Europe that want independence, not because they're really oppresed anymore but because they fear their language being washed out
I would agree that it's alreay too late for a vest majority of us
Only Ireland and Catalunia managed to revive their language enough to save them for the near future, and it's only because they had sufficient political power to do so
argue* fml
also I guess balt countries are doing fine too since the end of USSR, but it causes a lot of complaints from russian speakers
The problem with the Russian minorities is that they way too often refuse to learn the main language of the country they're in. Its fine to have a minority that speaks another language, but they need to be able to talk with the rest of the country as well, otherwise communications get shitty and misunderstandings lead to problems.
>they need to be able to talk with the rest of the country as well
no they don't. If russians don't want to coexist with people who speak different languages, they should give them their independance
We can't just splinter up every Russian speaking village into its own country
Yupp, only Catalunia has a chance to independe I feel (Balkan spliter states don't count), Basque people want it too but they know they can't survive economically alone.
If the parents already speak English most the time because they need it for work and the children are going to school where they speak English, where the frick are they going to learn their ancestral language?
Parents should speak it at home anyway, even if they do know English.
!OYE PRIMOS¡
All of these cartoons look too stupid for me to watch. The two from OP's pic look slightly less abstract as Primos which is outright disgusting though.
>POCs
>le pox
Shut the frick up homosexual.
It's funny that every time someone says "latino" they think of mexican instead. It's like creating a word that involves finnish, norwegians and swedish people because they live close to each other, and then you only consider swedish culture for your show. Latinoamérica has never been an unified group, years ago it was used for denominating your geographic situation, but never your culture or live. You use your nationality instead: you're a chilean, an argentinian, a colombian, a peruvian, etc. But you never say "i'm latino". It's a moronic take forced by USA politicians and content creators, because they lack an unique identity, which is ofc spreaded all over the place. And i hate them for that. You will never be a latino.
That's because Mexicans make up the majority of them. That's also why it's considered the Latino lingua franca on radio and TV. Apparently, the Spanish taught in schools is Mexican Spanish.
Frick Mexicans
That is kind of a thing, Finnish people are considered Nordic, but its only ever Scandinavian culture people think of
Finns are as much Nordic as the Estonians.
I had never considered from this angle, thanks for the quality post
We need more of that instead of talking about cartoons.
my bro I'm sad to inform you that this thread wasn't about cartoon to begin with, it's just tangeant
Hey that's even better. We need more of this.
daliy reminder that
Asia and Europe were general names used by the Ancient Greeks to distinguish the two sides of the Aegean sea (which they both inhabited). any other use is either "wewuzzing" (for Europe) or cultural submission (for Asia).
Africa is a name used by Ancient Rome to designate the region of Carthage in modern-day Tunisia, who never was inhabited by blacks. any other use (in particular by blacks) is not only stupid but also cultural submission.
America is a name which comes from a combination of some guy outright lying about having discovered the New World, some cartographers believing it, and Colombus being too busy to realize what happened. the name originally designated only the north of Brazil. using "America" has always been stupid. using it to designate two continents is doubly stupid. using it to designate a single country who has no direct relation whatsoever with the original meaning of the term is beyond moronic.
Anon I doubt anyone but you care
I do care.
I know, I said that
Indeed. Only use Africa to designate Tunisia and the libyan and algerian lands that border it. "Continents" are made up nonsense anyways with no real definition. India should be a continent yet it isnt.
This is why it was important to teach geographic history in schools, so the commoner knew that designations are based on your geographic location instead of your skin colour. People that live in USA will never be latinos because they don't live in Latinoamérica, they live in USA, and they will always be americans/Estadounidenses first.
>this entire thread
I hate that word we're not allowed to use anymore. It's so familiar.
You are a free man, son of free parents, living in a free society, posting on a free website. Use "that word"
Goyim
Look up fear or the familiar.
I'll read it, but what is it about?
Oikophobia
I'll read it.
Can we all "de acuerdo" that latinos are only mexicans and puerto ricans?
Also sometimes Cubans
Yo me cojo a la putas mexicanas y puerto riqueñas.
y cubanas también.
what about CULOmbianas.
Are latinos not everybody in central america/carribeans?
No.
Peruvians don't have the same dialect than Chileans do tho. When they actually speak a correct spanish they're the most neutral ones in terms of tone annoyance
No, there are several (small) countries down there where English and Dutch are the main languages.
From my experience, latins tend to be far more lenient on stereotypes specially if they are overtly funny or it's part of a self-deprecating joke. Problem is this was not made by someone with that level of self-awareness nor a true Hispanic, so it falls flat and it became insulting, didnt really help that the show's art style was already ugly as sin.
Also a good way of telling this shit's big is that hispanics stopped hating on each other to tear unto disney, so good on them and i hope this isnt just shoved under the rug at some point.
If they couldn't do anything about Victor and Valentino, I'm pretty sure they'll let Disney sweep this under the rug.
that show was so damn bland and boring that it simply gets ignored, it's only legacies are the fat goth e-girl that got a lot of porn made of her and uh, i think shota chubby chasers sometimes remember one of the protagonists and i think thats all.
The most offensive thing about Victor and Valentino was how toothless and infuriatingly boring it was.
No one gave a shit about it except the guys who wanted to frick Charlene.
To be fair, Charlene is pretty hot.
Disney deserves it for pulling the fact same shit with Kim Possible and Proud Family.
One thing I have never understood is the relatively modern tendency of saying Latino/Latina in fricking English, creating the gendered complications that lead to shit like Latinx or Latine, like God damn Latin is already gender neutral, as in God damn Latin America
For real why can't they just be called Latins?
That's oppressive for Spanish speakers apparently.
Says who? Seriously, I have heard that take, and I've heard a lot of dumb things
Says who? Why would we get mad if a Chinese man used whatever Chinese word they have for Latin?
But you frickers ain't speaking Spanish. Hearing an American say Latino/Latina brings pain to my hears, let alone if they try to say Latinx
Loan words are a thing. I don't think the French care that Americans say fiancé.
It is so God damn silly and inconsistent though. Like you never hear them saying Italiano/a, they just straight up use Italian (same with any other damn gendered language).
As people pointed out, Mexican culture spread farther than Italian culture did in America, which maybe how it caught on. Even then, most people default to Latino anyways.
>saying Latino/Latina in fricking English, creating the gendered complications that lead to shit like Latinx
that started in spanish, it's nothing to do with us saying latino/latina
>brown e-girl/hebe
is this new pedo fad in israelitellywood?
WTF are you talking about? Why would actual predators care about cartoony drawings? Twitter and /misc/ must have rotted your brain's logic center.
It was cool seeing the grocery and temple episodea of Amphibia, I thought "oh shit this is how white people must feel when they see a county fair episode". If I was a kid I would hag probably onions faced.
Is it actual latinos, or second and third generation brown people who can't even speak or understand spanish?
Probably the later
Reminder that X-Americans are never X, they're just cringe martsharting mutts.
The moment an immigrant stops calling themselves whatever theyre original ethnicity/race/nationality and starts calling themselves x-american is the moment they cease to be what they originally were and become assimilated
>the thai character made by a thai vs the "mexican" character made by Kimberly from LA
Latino here, if this show offended anything it was my senses, with its horrendous character design and MC's disgusting "adult roleplaying as a kid" voice.
That being said I will give Primos a chance because it wouldnt be the first time Cinemaphile kino looks and sounds like shit.
>Clarence
>Kino
No way anon, that shit only appealed to white trash.
Isnt this the only show about white people that shows poor white people? I lived in both the middle east and poor white areas in the west and it felt quite relatable
Clarence was kino.
Them being white trash only added to the charm. Now you just get something like bluey instead.
I miss uncle grandpa.
Uncle Grandpa was one of the shows of all time.
Primos is based around inept pandering to Latin American culture, though. Molly and Amphibia just had occasional episodes where naturalized Thai-American kids give basic run-downs of their hyphenated culture. Those episodes were annoying at worst.
What Primos has done is center the central premise of an entire show around a chicana's imperfect understanding and sometimes total obliviousness to Latin culture. The showrunner is very obviously not fluent in Spanish and is only well versed in Latin culture stereotypes, so that's what they made.
Moreover, other types of Hyphenated Americans haven't yet been as thoroughly and condescendingly pandered to as Latinos, except for maybe blacks, and since they actually have a culture, they're pretty sensitive to when urbanite chicanos get the details and basic fricking grammar wrong.
Play the Spain dub in Mexico or any country south of it and see how they react.
Now I'm curious how spaniard molly and Anne would sound
Isn’t the amphibia girl just a mutt?
That's Molly
>American megacorp makes show pandering to a certain group of people.
>Show portrays said group in the worst way possible.
And these morons wonder why Mexico would much rather watch their own shows and anime over their garbage.
Sorry amigo these shows don't actually pander to mexicans, they just co-opt their name, customs and all their historical events
This is how it is with all megacorps. CN, Nickelodeon, Dreamworks, they all do this shit.
Do people really think Mexicans want to watch shit like El Tigre and Onyx Equinox? Over villainous?
>Over villainous?
What mex and latam kids watch is 99.99999% shonens like DBZ and Naruto, and whatever is hot on kids TV for ages 2-6 (Peppa Pig is fondly remembered by most tweens today)
Villanous is just one of the bunch for that tiny minority that likes animations and therefore stuff produced at Disney, CN and Nick.
From me experience latams guys like the CN classics over all. There's a reason Villanos is "I understood that reference: the show". they also dig Frankelda, Irmao de Jorel, Adventure Time, Steven Universe (I actually saw Sugar irl on a cross-Latam tour in my local ComicCon, it was FILLED with teens waiting for her) and TOH is probably the next widely popular series among them - not because of luz, because it just looks good.
You'd be surprised by the shit Mexicans are willing to consume and regurgitate. Primos isn't that out there.
Does anyone actually know what happened to this mess?
Is it lost media or a tax write off, it just vanished
It came and went and the few who saw it called the creator a gay tumblr sucker wannabe
It's like worse magiswords, I'm not trying to insult magiswords though it's just that the sound mixing is fricking awful and the voices mesh together in a far less competent way than early magiswords, I don't know how to describe it
I'm quite surprised at how awful the black viking with vitiligo is in every scene, she just takes you out of any potential enjoyment you could get even when you are trying to give it a fair shoot
Thanks for showing me this mess, at least now I know how awful this was
>Cartoon Saloon killed this Mexican mess
Hehe the irony
Onyx was actually well researched, though?
It's probably the best Prehispanic Mexico has been handled outside of indie projects in like the past 30 years, if not ever. Even the character arc for the main character ties into themes from actual Aztec poetry and philosophical ethics, they use specific iconography from mesoamerican art in a way that actually ties into their symbolic significance instead of just as random visual designs, etc.
haven't seen it but the screenshots i've seen of it's Aztec architecture seem well done too.
>haven't seen it but the screenshots i've seen of it's Aztec architecture seem well done too.
Yeah, the background design is really good, but that's about it.
A lot of the mythology in the show is extremely watered down and safe.
Like, they made El Chupacabra a soft and gentle vegetarian that made sculptures that only -looked- like animal carcasses.
Fricking atrocious.
Like, I didn't think you could make Latin/Hispanic mythology boring, but they found a way.
>latino backslash
mexican, I'm latino too and if i had to draw a mexican I'd draw it the same way disney did, the only thing they missed is that mexican women have facial hair
kek love how in the middle of all this bullshit we still find time to write inter-latam banter
>mexican
>latino
ha
mexicans are the supreme latinos, the first thing people think when they hear "latino" is Mexico.
thoughts?
OP's begging for porn again
anyone know the name of the girl in the orange dress and the yellow headband on the left side?
Which cartoon is this qt from?
Villainous
The characters on the right are little kids?
mexican cartoons by actual mexicans never depict real mexicans, even the El Tigre guy thinks banditos are accurate depictions instead of a clear cut hollywood stereotype that it actually is. I might as well not consider them real latinos.
>ronlinga in the right
but irmao de jorel is brazil? I thought they were only an Argentina phenomenon
I feel like it's important to note in general that most actually normal people don't get offended that much by lazy representation of their ethnicity; they just don't care. Even on terms of really shit representation like Primos, which most of the time just earns an amused scoff and a "what is this gringo shit" before they move on, in my experience. As long as you aren't making genuine racist caricatures to spread hatred of their race, I have genuinely only ever seen black people get mad at black rep.
If you do really good rep it gets noticed. If you do really shit rep you get ignored, and occasionally you get a rant from some weirdo with too much free time.
How do you read "POCs"? Is it like "pox"? If that's so, it's funny because it's true. They are.
Most other groups don't seem to get mad if you remind them they aren't white.
On Cinemaphile, I saw a lot of anger when they got reminded that the protag wasn't white, or not completely white.
what's wrong with being horny for cartoon girls?
I’m tired of brown girls
>POCs
Just call them colored and get it over with.
I recall Chinese people pointing out Jake Long was a European dragon, not a Chinese one. But that wasn't a backlash, it was just commentary. One can say something is wrong without taking or giving offense.
Even this situation with Primos didn't start as a backlash. It became one because some of the staff were proudly defending their own mistake and diminishing other people.
mexicans got triggered cause the show is nothing but a mirror, the average mexican look like that or even worse
And they ended up changing the dragon design later on, right?
He was still a European dragon, just skinnier.
They did, but it was still a European dragon. It had wings.
Again, people weren't actually complaining. There are plenty of practical reasons not to use a traditional Chinese dragon. They're floating snakes with beards and stubby legs. They're be a b***h to animate.
They never looked Asian to me.
I wonder if the anons shilling or, at the very least, defending Primos are even going to watch the show...
What about those b***hing about it? I mean, it's good to see if most of your complaints are actually realized within the show itself, after all.
Cinemaphile reflexively defends every show targeted by SJWs, why would this be different? Because the sjws are Latino?
>SJWs
Who?
The angry latinxs saying it's offensive. You know, social justice warriors.
And what of the angry latinx saying that it's offensive to call it offensive? And that spanish is a colonizer language?
Both idiots who're making mountains out of molehills.
You don't need to be an SJW to realize how nothing this whole "controversy" is, especially within the context of here. If anything, this show only got more free advertising out of it.