>The League of Shadows has been a check against human corruption for thousands of years. We sacked Rome; loaded trade ships with plague rats; burned London to the ground. Every time a civilization reaches the pinnacle of its decadence, we return to restore the balance.
So what have they been up to lately?
sprinkled fentanyl in george floyd's oatmeal
grow the hell up
>grow the hell up
That's a good one.
how does any of that help human corruption?
damn, capeshit "writing" is sure deep
It sounds really cool when Liam Neeson says it.
whenever the motives of a fictitious organization include "maintaining balance" you know you're dealing with a hack writer that stopped caring a long time ago
baselessly cynical post
why? it's a stock genre fiction placeholder ideology. if you have something real to write about you don't write about "protecting the balance." nobody cares about that, it's white noise.
baselessely cynical post
feel free to defeat my cynicism by writing sincerely about your belief in "balance"
There's nothing to defeat, you've presented nothing compelling.
I could just as easily say "is a sign that you've given up" about anything.
really? you think it's equally easy to demonstrate that
>writing movies about your love of your children is a sign of giving up as an artist
as
>writing movies about stock genre concepts is a sign of giving up as an artist?
because it think that would make you extremely cynical. i think people who have real beliefs and experiences write about them, and people who don't have shit write about "what if a secret society was protecting the balance and stuff." if you think this is not a stock genre concept deployed cynically but actually something vital and heartfelt and true then please tell me what it is that you see in it.
movies about your love of your children is a sign of giving up as an artist
>as
Yes, you could easily say that using your rhetorical style and it would be an equally empty statement.
>hurr child and parent movie? Boring, out of ideas!
This is you.
writing fanfiction about what you think i would say is a rat move. no, i wouldn't say "boring" about people writing honestly about their family life, you don't know what i would say, frick you.
you're retreating into the, ironically, extremely cynical genre fandom tactic where you don't defend the thing you like as good, you just go "but other things could also be called bad...!" that's some insect hive defense shit. if you had a soul you'd be writing positively, you'd be telling me why the use of the "secret society restores blance" genre placeholder in your batman movie is actually sincere and meaningful and great. you can't because it isn't and you're just an insect defending the hive.
>if you had a soul you'd be writing positively,
Black person that is my entire beef with you.
>how does any of that help human corruption?
Stops it for a while. Neeson is claiming that the decadence would have gotten worse overall if they hadn't forced people to start over periodically.
Is this midwit hour? They make an example out of corrupt and decadent cities. Make it look like they destroyed themselves due to their own corruption. Galvanizing the rest of the civilization to wake the frick up.
If you’re going to act like you're above something, at least, make sure give it proper criticisms.
this doesn't make any sense
He’s a moron and doesn’t even know how to use commas properly
> 80IQ gay has no response and decides to criticize the punctuation.
Learn to use a period before acting uppity cretin.
You literally have minor version of that happening in Gotham. The Wayne's are murdered and it galvanizes the city to fix itself (although it was inadequate).
who decides what "corruption" is? how does sending plague rats fights this corruption? sounds more like stopping progress because of...capeshit reasons?
>who decides what "corruption" is?
The league. This is always such a stupid fricking question.
>how does sending plague rats fights this corruption?
By killing the corrupt and making the rest flee and scatter to the winds.
>sounds more like stopping progress because of...capeshit reasons?
Progress for its own sake leads to child drag shows at nude pride parades.
>by killing the corrupt
You do realize that most of the nobility fled the big cities durin the Black Plague, right? Most, if not all, of the people who died were peasants that didn't take part in the corruption that was rotting the society that they were a part of.
Did you stop reading the sentence I wrote halfway through?
I could ask you the same thing.
You could but it wouldn't make sense because I already said that the rest fled.
You said the plague killed the corrupt, but I stated that it didn't. The people who died were peasants, i.e. not a part of the problem that the League was trying to solve.
>who decides what "corruption" is?
Really? Do you really think this is some sort of biting question? It's like watching a clockwork orange and then asking "what's ultraviolence?"
>Galvanizing the rest of the civilization to wake the frick up.
so, like, is the aim to bring down the british/roman etc empires or to save them? does rome controlling all that territory an unbalance or a balance? is there supposed to be a giant empire ruling half the world but, like, "undecadently"? is that balance? or is the empire falling and barbarians taking over "restoring the balance"? what's the "balance"? if too much corruption is an unbalance, is too little corruption also an imbalance? if there was an extremely virtuous nation would liam neeson go there and try to get them to take bribes and molest kids to bring them up to "medium corruption," ie a state of balance between virtue and vice?
It's actually fascinating watching midwits "argue". You not only ask obvious questions but act as though you're offering some profound insight.
> if too much corruption is an unbalance, is too little corruption also an imbalance? if there was an extremely virtuous nation would liam neeson go there and try to get them to take bribes and molest kids to bring them up to "medium corruption," ie a state of balance between virtue and vice?
What kind of moron even asks this? It's obvious Ra's believes humanity can neved be corruption free and at times you need bring shit back to manageable levels. The league doesn't need to "feed corruption" because that will happen without them regardless.
Even worse is your try hard attempts at historical accuracy in a universe with its own alternate history. Reminds me of this pasta.
> Midwits don’t really fundamentally understand any form of creative medium. They don’t partake in an aesthetic experience or an artistic reality but just a story. Plotholes matter more than what emotions and themes are evoked. They throw a fit whenever sentimentality is combined with realism in any way because years of cringe millennial pseudo nihilism shit weaned them on the idea that “realistic” things have to be stark and empty and morose. They also place a lot of stock in sticking rigidly to certain dogmas and so when you introduce some sort of metaphysics or emotional element that instantly infringes on the “science and facts” scheme of ideas in their head, it creates a dissonance because they need rigid sets of ideas for what constitutes realistic or not realistic. Add to that midwit insecurity and needing to vociferously assert when they feel they are smarter than the content they consume, and you have the reaction to this movie. I don’t even like it that much myself but it’s a good insight into the mind of a redditor.
You homosexuals are a waste of time, kek.
>writes a wall of text to call the discussion a waste of time
You sure got 'em, champ
Most of the text is quoting others brainlet.
The fact that he's engaging with the discussion at all validates me mocking him.
>It's obvious Ra's believes humanity can neved be corruption free and at times you need bring shit back to manageable levels.
the point is that stuff like "restoring corruption to manageable levels" is complete twaddle. so you have these people going around doing "corruption measurements" or something...? according to what metric? it's like something a child would say ("let's just put all the bad guys in prison") except dressed up a little. it SOUNDS kind of like a political ideology of some sort but it intentionally doesn't mean anything because if the villains in the superhero movie resembled something real then people might get offended and nobody's going to get offended at "corruption-detecting balance restorers" because that's a fake thing from dungeons and dragons. it's the same type of shit as "i have to delete half the people with the magic glove so we don't run out of resources." intentionally fake nonsense problems that sound kind of serious if you don't think about them.
and what did they accomplish those other times?
>Galvanizing the rest of the civilization to wake the frick up.
That's the stupid part. People just don't behave that way. Half of them would be celebrating the mass deaths in a schadenfreude orgy and the other half would simply blame it all on the scapegoat du jour while patting themselves on the back for being too clever to be the ones being made an example of.
I still can't decide if Nolan is merely a hack or a literal alien who still hasn't figured humanity out in the slightest.
In the original comics Ras wanted to genocide the world populace because of global warming. Ras Al ghul is just an autistic boomer
they spam chud millions must die memes
They aimed at the king and they missed
Thank you Biden
Thank you Trump
Thank you Gerald Ford
Thank you Batman
I like that, thanks
>create virus panic to destroy America
>and then Russia gets itself bogged down in a stupid war
>Germany sudokus its energy sector and relies entirely on Russia to heat their homes
>uk continues to act basically like an eu country but without any of the benefits, even after brexit
>China locks down harder than anyone else, then completely bungles opening up
>France literally setting itself on fire
>Meanwhile America's biggest problem is men dressing like women
People talk a lot of shit about the US, but we still can't be beat
americas actual problems are related to the unfathomable levels of wealth inequality, not trannies
There's nothing inherently bad about inequality. As long as the structure continues to raise quality of life for people at all levels of society it's fine, and the poorest state in the US has an average real wage over a third higher than Italy
>continues to raise
And the sidewalk tent cities continue to grow...
Sure, some specific cities are very badly mismanaged and do not build enough housing for their population. Some even encourage the use of drugs among their homeless population. Neither is really a symptom of wealth inequality
Hey its one of those men dressed up as women the other anon was talking about.
Except Neeson says that they themselves caused Gotham's decadence using "economics," so they're just a bunch of hypocrites.
the vaccine
I distinctly remember this scene in theaters with my father, who looked over to me after this monologue with a grimace and motioned two big thumbs down. I never took capeshit seriously again after that. Thanks pops
Based. I take it your father is older and a scholar of history. That kind of shit doesn’t fly with history purists. It’s also just moronic scriptwriting on its own
I really like Neeson's monologues in this film. It's the kind of pulpy, memorable dialogue you'd want in a superhero movie.
All there Nolan villains had great monologues imo.
Is BlackRock the irl League of Shadows?
They’ve had rough time since they lost WW2
does that mean they fought decadence in weimar germany by giving the power to
>We gave Floyd the fake $20
>We killed Gaddafi so Europe would fill with Nogs
>We wrote NAFTA
>We put Estrogen in Bruce Jenner's Protein Shakes
I didn't realize Al Ghul was a israeli name