Very good read, lines up with what I've observed along with my father
Frick mega corps, called it a decade ago when all these tech companies were siphoning the middle class of their money and shifting it to the leftist bourgeois classes of California
>Currently, the machine is sputtering, running on fumes. According to research by Bloomberg, in 2013 the largest companies in film and television were more than $20 billion in the black; by 2022, that number had fallen by roughly half. From 2021 to 2022, revenue growth for the industry dropped by almost 50 percent. At U.S. box offices, by the end of last year, revenue was down 22 percent from 2019. Experts estimate that cable-television revenue has fallen 40 percent since 2015. Streaming has rarely been profitable at all. Until very recently, Netflix was the sole platform to make money; among the other companies with streaming services, only Warner Bros. Discovery’s platforms may have eked out a profit last year.
awesome! they nuked the film industry for streaming services that don't even make money !
>they think short term and only about their CEO pay
They are obliged by law to only think about profit, and yes that means short term for them and the corporations they rule.
NTA, but I remember this. They made it illegal to not be a prostitute (a prostitute for profit); kind of funny how prostitution is simultaneously illegal and illegal to not be a prostitute in America.
Revenue growth between 2021 and 2022 dropped by almost half.
The article is interesting in that, on the one hand, it reinforces Cinemaphile's "go woke get broke" trope while on the other it completely contradicts Cinemaphile's pol troop "profits don't matter! it's all about ESG" drivel.
>ignore ESG
Yeah no, that falls perfectly in line with the idea that woke capital is driving Black folk and lesbians into starwars
Furthermore the decision to sincerely frick with and destroy priceless IP is driven by contempt, not money. You can make good money without fricking up existing TV and movies
Yeah, no, right back at you.
"Profits don't matter, it's all about promoting certain agendas" is completely, totally, utterly, and absolutely contradicted by the cited article.
ESG is 100% real and drives investment. That can’t be worked around when you consider the capital investment angle. You concede this.
If the profits mattered then they’d take measured, conservative moves that would be risk free
Instead they’re dramatically shifting recipes to suit demographics that don’t exist. You can’t square that circle by saying “it’s about money”.
Corporations are notoriously slow and filled with red tape on decision making. If it was just suits in ivory towers making bad decisions, it would look like Force Awakens, with endless self reference. Instead we get schlock like Last Jedi and contempt for canon. The contempt is 100% baked in
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The article in the OP is specially talking about gamed finance models replacing whatever risk free conservative models you seem to be imagining. Which is happening because traditional models just don’t function anymore
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> gamed finance models
Like ESG
> whatever risk free conservative models you seem to be imagining.
Like making a mediocre movie in existing IP without destroying the existing content
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You don’t seem to be able to comprehend the idea they’re making more money with “political” movies no one likes/watches/buys than they could with any level of mass appeal, because the proliferation of all varieties of niche media means there is no more room for mass appeal. >but they should just do niche appeal!
Would be admitting their model for the last 15 years was wrong and more than a little fraudulent, on top of the fact they’d need to completely redesign their entire internal structure to turn one 300m production into 20 15m productions.
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The studios lose money but the executives and CEOs personally earn more due to fat ESG bonus payouts
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The shareholders are the biggest cancer.
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No, the studio games it’s own loaned/investment money back into it’s own stock value. They are pumping and dumping themselves, simultaneously.
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Respecting existing cannon, characters, and theme isn’t “niche appeal”
Everyone agrees the latest starwars flicks suck donkey dong it’s true they’re making more money, but that’s in spite of their shit product. Most of their biggest IPs are failing for various reasons that ultimately come down to how fricking dog shit the movies are. You can blame corporate models all you want, but choosing to go out of your way to crush preciously existing IP to make room for your untested, nonexistent market isn’t a safe, need results now play,
Family guy and zombie Simpsons is a good example of what true sellout shit looks like - bland moronic and derivative but largely respectful of the franchise
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>Respecting existing cannon, characters, and theme isn’t “niche appeal”
Yea, it is. Because the audience for each new entry in a franchise will be smaller than the previous unless there is indication of massive change sufficient to attract a new audience, or maybe, a subsequent entry elevates previous entries somehow. You always either attract new markets or suffer a slow death, in mass appeal entertainment.
And since you’re clearly talking about fallout, fallout 3 was only successful because people wanted oblivion with guns.
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> Yea, it is. Because the audience for each new entry in a franchise will be smaller than the previous unless there is indication of massive change sufficient to attract a new audience, or maybe, a subsequent entry elevates previous entries somehow. You always either attract new markets or suffer a slow death, in mass appeal entertainment.
Yeah game of throne’s final season had terrible numbers that’s true. And if we didn’t shit on Luke’s character, how could anyone relate to Disney wars? If we didn’t make Indiana Jones a worthless old man and have a girl boss dunk on him, surely we’d alienate the wider audiences?!
Yeah nah.
You can respect the old and treat it well without restricting yourself. It’s a deliberate choice made by ideologically captured institutions which seek to deconstruct themselves as a substitute for actual writing
The entire progtard agenda is 'destroy' in order to build THEIR vision of whatever that is in it's place. They actually use the term 'deconstruct' more often because 'destroy' has obvious negative connotations.
>Deconstruct/destroy capitalism. >Deconstruct/destroy western civ. >Deconstruct/destroy whiteness/white supremacy. >Deconstruct/destroy the police force. >Deconstruct/destroy the patriarchy
Deconstructing/destroying Hollywood is literally their end game. So many progtards say that Hollywood still has vestiges of racism/sexism/o
isms. They believe not in improving, but completely getting rid of everything that the west has ever created, or completely warping until it no longer resembles what it used to be. This is narcissistic tyranny, but then again this is what happens when you give the mentally ill the right to vote. Haven't you been listening to what they've been saying for the last 15 years?
The agenda comes from people who are beyond the need for profits. This article and any people b***hing about profits comes from the useful idiots who made up a majority of the industry and thought it was all about money the entire time. The ones who were actually moronic enough to let woke morons dominate the industry because they thought this was what people legitimately wanted and were actually expecting to make money from far leftist slop
Maybe the article is not written from a high enough perspective, he lacked insight into how powerful entities manipulate worldviews beyond just financial motives, or at least sees money as a tool for other mechanisms that they're aware of.
We can't have Snowden all the time, the combination of an acute mind that actually had enough vantage points to create a high-view of surveillance based on documentation and how the machine works in individual parts.
>"profits don't matter! it's all about ESG"
it didnt matter until it did. thats the other half of the saying "get woke", we're now entering a period of "go broke" as a consequence of that.
Companies are literally downsizing, folding, and consolidating right now. The people who were screaming for Marxist bullshit are losing their jobs en masse. It's getting up to the executive level now.
>people aren't watching TV >people aren't streaming >people aren't going to the movies >most people don't pirate
How the frick are these consoombies watching all this slop then?
The film and TV industry is now controlled by only four major companies, and it is shot through with incentives to devalue the actual production of film and television. What is to be done? The most direct solution would be government intervention. If it wanted to, a presidential administration could enforce existing antitrust law, break up the conglomerates, and begin to pull entertainment companies loose from asset-management firms. It could regulate the use of financial tools, as deWaard has suggested; it could rein in private equity. The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
>It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers
From the progtard viewpoint, why not? The gov't to them is a giant excuse to piss away $.
They are streaming, but streaming doesn't make any money since all tech startups run the same "start cheap to gain users, then ram a shitload of ads in to actually make money" scheme. On top of that production costs are insanely inflated now. TNG had a budget of about a million dollars per episode all told, and that's just the season budget divided by episodes. She Hulk cost 25 MILLION DOLLARS per episode, NOT counting any season-wide overhead.
People are streaming, but streaming isn't profitable. At least not the way 99% of idiot companies do it. Netflix managed to make money at it because only Netflix really understood the model, everybody else blindly copied them without comprehending how they were supposed to make money at it.
The all-you-can-eat subscription model is terrible for monetizing new content. Traditionally, all-you-can-eat subscription is for media at the tail end of its lifespan after the more profitable avenues of revenue have been used and is the equivalent of the bargain bin. The standard life of a media release typically looks something like this:
Theatrical Release -> Premium Cable -> Home Video -> Standard Cable -> Network TV -> Bargain Bin/All-You-Can-Eat
Releasing big, expensive new productions directly on streaming is the equivalent of releasing them straight into the bargain bin. Traditionally, all-you-can-eat subscriptions rely on providing a large number of cheap media at the end of their lifespan in order to eke out a profit at the low margins of the subscription.
Yup, they completely screwed themselves by jumping straight into streaming, and skipping all the steps where you can make money. Now the pandemic didn't help, so a lot of companies opted to dump their stuff on there, plus the death of physical media as well. But their choice to add streaming earlier in the chain also made physical media less necessary. So it was really self-inflicted. Now consumers are used to short wait times between theatrical release and streaming, so they'll say to themselves "I'll just wait for it to come to (insert streaming service here)."
I probably sound crazy, and israeli, but streaming unironically should just be bargain bin shit. Like, you know those "free to watch" things that are officially on Youtube? That's what ALL streaming should be, if it wants to be profitable. Just bottom of the barrel content, with occasionally a gem sprinkled in there.
$20 a month for streaming is still crazy cheap, considering movies used to be $20 for a single DVD. The genie's out of the fricking bottle now, though. People aren't going to go back. The industry was racing to devalue itself.
>Just bottom of the barrel content, with occasionally a gem sprinkled in there.
the issue is that in this case then the gems can't be professionally-made, with actual sets and costumes, because the craftsmen and technicians required to do all that work will have had to retire and get jobs in the service industry. like, even the best Youtube skit isn't going to be as well-produced as The Last Of Us or Shogun.
What's the fricking first thing they offer you? Kangaroo Jack. Shyamalan's The Last Airbender. Oh, and I guess you get Forrest Gump, too. There's your "gem." This shit should be "standard" for streaming services, if they don't want to devalue their content. But the genie's out of the bottle. Been out of the bottle for 10 years.
>Having niche BBC miniseries from 40 years ago in your catalog that can disappear at any given moment so you actually feel compelled to watch something
Tubi and Pluto are quite frankly based.
But they've already committed to making high-budget fancy shows and movies for streaming, and customers will expect that to continue. Think about how many people would be pissed off if Disney stopped releasing their latest $200 million animated movies on Disney+. The customer base would revolt. They've fricked themselves and there's no way out.
Yep. Like I said, the genie is out of the bottle. There was a point, MAYBE in 2010 or 2011, where if they just let streaming be this kind of place where your backwash went, with things advancing to where enthusiastic could spend $100 a month on like, the Criterion Collection, or something, that might've worked. Streaming movies, to be profitable, should consist of shit like Kangaroo Jack, a couple seasons of some old sitcom, and maybe one or two movies worth actually watching.
But the unfathomable thing is they were incredibly generous with streaming. They devalued their brands. And while that's great for you and me, it fricked over Hollywood. And well, honestly, good at this point, but I'm just pointing out how fricking crazy it was studios gave up their entire catalog for $100-$200 a year.
Part of the issue is Netflix cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Once upon a time there was two streaming sites: Netflix and Hulu.
Hulu was where you went to watch new shows in real time and Netflix was where you watched old movies and entire series of old shows and new shows, granted a year after they aired (whereas Hulu had them dropping regularly).
At first, Netflix had a decent size monopoly on content but then Amazon started up Prime and Hulu started going after classic/new shows and movies. Studios started divesting their content from Netflix and spread their content across multiple platforms, which fricked Netflix up.
Netflix, needing to stay relevant, stopped fighting to get exclusive rights to older shows and movies, allowing a good chunk of their library to lapse. Instead, they focused their money on two things:
1. Exclusive rights to new movies
2. Creating new exclusive content, shows and movies that could never be taken from Netflix because they owned them.
Netflix's success making movies and shows sparked other streaming sites to follow their lead, which was good at first but then fell apart because the new shows started to be dogshit and people instead just watched old shows and movies but especially old TV shows like Friends, Fraiser, Seinfeld, The Office, etc
I don't know how Hollywood could come back from that. They opened up this big can of worms. Regular audiences now are way too comfortable tuning in on streaming platforms than the old ways of theatrical or home video distribution, and streaming platforms didn't make a ton of money like they should've been.
>Releasing big, expensive new productions directly on streaming is the equivalent of releasing them straight into the bargain bin.
They saw Netflix doing that, and copied them. Apparently nobody realized Netflix HAD to do this because they didn't own the rights to any of the content that made them rich, and all the owners of those lucrative IPs were not going to renew the license when they could just make their own streaming service. So if Netflix wanted to have any draw at all, it had to spend humongous piles of dough to make its own original content and pray to God some of it got popular.
Nobody else had to do this. People like Disney, NBC, etc, did not have to do this. They have TONS of content people already like, that have decades of built-in viewership. They could have operated streaming services with nothing but those reruns and maybe 1 or 2 originals per year and the service would've been profitable.
The shift to streaming and "more future profits" is also what prompted studios to somehow create more and more oversight/redundancy positions that they continue to throw their inflated budgets at. who needs a writer when you can have 9 diverse writers?
>they nuked the film industry for streaming services that don't even make money
When they openwd Disneyland in 1956, nothing worked.
These things, they take time.
the end of the article is perfect, it basically says 'either destroy the unions for better individual power or hope for govt intervention to break up the mega conglomerates, which is unlikely'
this article is 100% truth, I finally feel vindicated after seeing all this stuff happening and feeling like I was taking crazy pills during the 2010s I'm shocked no one else was noticing
Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
>Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
Why is this so true? I see shit coming 100 miles away, not only on Cinemaphile but irl, with family or friends. I try to warm them, but just constantly dismissed, even mocked, until it all comes true. Of course they never acknowledge that what I said would happen, happened. I feel like fricking Cassandra in those ancient myths. Some normie reactions to my prophecies:
>It couldn't happen here >It couldn't happen to me >I've never seen/heard it, so it must not be true
My dad finally admitted to me he should've listened, I literally predicted half of the shit that happened the last decade including the initial bear then bull crypto market and how also all these Democrats would frick us sideways with the runaway inflation from COVID. The fact it's finally catching up to normies now will make me seethe, this shit is basic accounting. All the rich from the tech sector and snake oil solar/electric vehicles are robbing the middle class and profiting it and stealing it away to California. Btw the average taxpayer subsidizes $48k/electric vehicle. Remind the EV homosexuals theyre polluting the earth and have to replace batteries every 5-7 years and will cost $10k.
>Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
Why is this so true? I see shit coming 100 miles away, not only on Cinemaphile but irl, with family or friends. I try to warm them, but just constantly dismissed, even mocked, until it all comes true. Of course they never acknowledge that what I said would happen, happened. I feel like fricking Cassandra in those ancient myths. Some normie reactions to my prophecies:
>It couldn't happen here >It couldn't happen to me >I've never seen/heard it, so it must not be true
Being ahead of your time is a curse.
You’d think the insight would be a blessing but it’s quite the opposite with no power
the end of the article is perfect, it basically says 'either destroy the unions for better individual power or hope for govt intervention to break up the mega conglomerates, which is unlikely'
this article is 100% truth, I finally feel vindicated after seeing all this stuff happening and feeling like I was taking crazy pills during the 2010s I'm shocked no one else was noticing
Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
>when you're right but you're so repulsive no one wants to believe you
At least your society don't believe in Santería/Macumba (Latin America's version of Voodoo). A boss fired me once because I "evil eyed her business" and I can't work in the farms of the region I was born because the feudal lord there said I was responsible for "casting an indio curse" against his property.
I always try to give examples and explain how A leads to B and C, but they just ignore it and say everything is going to be fine or get angry with me.
>Santería
Seems to me like a frick you to the Catholic Church rather than a serious cult.
You take that if you are borderline atheist or indifferent to the Church and propagandized instead of catechized as a youth.
It's more like natives from the Americans and slaves from Africa putting Christian make-up on their religions to avoid censorship and prosecution and/or mixing their costumes with those from the new settlers.
Maybe at some point in its origins but you have to analyze how it's taken as a cult and idea now so that you do not fall for a genetic fallacy then refuse to reason whatsoever.
Take your meds schizo. I'm a Christian with a good handle of metaphysical and arguments for the existence of God.
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>Schizo
You're a Christian with very poor discernment if you think that Santeria is just a frick you to the church and not a living, breathing Satanic cult that frequently engages with real Satanic practices. See >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mark_Kilroy
I dunno. There are a lot of AIgays on this site right now who very arrogantly think their job will NEVER be in danger, and they'll face zero consequences from this tech.
I feel like this too. Some people are just so obsessed with their own comfort they'll ignore anything that might disrupt it, even advice that would help in the future.
Because people still have lizard brains and think curses are real. People would rather beat the messenger and invoke religious thinking about "progress" than actually put any thougt or work into maintaining their current level of comfort.
Holy shii this is based. Who is this guy? It's interesting that he described them as dead, because "philosophical zombies" is a more accepted term from academics who are describing what is essentially the NPC meme.
>Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
Why is this so true? I see shit coming 100 miles away, not only on Cinemaphile but irl, with family or friends. I try to warm them, but just constantly dismissed, even mocked, until it all comes true. Of course they never acknowledge that what I said would happen, happened. I feel like fricking Cassandra in those ancient myths. Some normie reactions to my prophecies:
>It couldn't happen here >It couldn't happen to me >I've never seen/heard it, so it must not be true
I've noticed that a lot of normies are afraid of independent thought/going against the grain and just memorize what an authority says. It doesn't become True until it's affirmed by something from above.
It's infuriating.
we keep saying that hollywood is in the worst state that its ever been and people are somehow still in denial of it. no, we aren't just "nostalgic" for the past, the industry is fricking garbage and is dying
No, it’s been happening since about 2007. Smart phones, writers strike, and social media all take huge chunks of the entertainment market simultaneously. A market that was already struggling with being divided between video games and broadcast/theaters.
>make movies with propaganda, homosexualry, white people bad, bad remakes, shit writing, garbage CGI despite 300 millions budget >why are people not watching our shitty movies/tv shows
is really a mystery
Monster >>> Coffee
of course is good for sugar addics >55 grams (1.94 ounces ) of sugar
>“There was this feeling,” the head of the midsize studio told me that day at Soho House, “during the last ten years or so, of, ‘Oh, we need to get more people of color in writers’ rooms.’” But what you get now, he said, is the black or Latino person who went to Harvard. “They’re getting the shot, but you don’t actually see a widening of the aperture to include people who grew up poor, maybe went to a state school or not even, and are just really talented. That has not happened at all.”
Fricking THANK YOU. The push for more diversity of skin color creates just that: a diversity of skin color. You aren't getting a different life background in the workplace, because everyone has the same fricking background: California. They all eat at the same shops, live within the same area, and speak the same way. They believe the same things and agree with each other on every topic. They are clones in all but appearance. And they want us to believe that it's their skin color that's important.
This is a core, fundamental belief of liberalism: that inside of every brown is a granola munching, NPR listening White liberal just waiting to be unlock by throwing lots of money at them.
>The streaming model was based on bringing in subscribers—grabbing as much of the market as possible—rather than on earning revenue from individual shows. And big swings brought in new viewers. “It’s like a whole world of intellectuals and artists got a multibillion-dollar grant from the tech world,” Smith said. “But we mistook that, and were frankly actively gaslit into thinking that that was because they cared about art.”
>“I am not impressed,” the A-list writer told me in January. Entry-level TV staffing, where more and more writers are getting stuck, “is still a subsistence-level job,” he said. “It’s a job for rich kids.”
>“is still a subsistence-level job,” he said. “It’s a job for rich kids.”
To be fair, art is like this since ever, but back then you had talented aristocrats or crazy poorgays producing stuff to get filtered by audiences, editors and critics.
As for what types of TV and movies can get made by those who stick around, Kelvin Yu, creator and showrunner of the Disney+ series American Born Chinese, told me: “I think that there will be an industry move to the middle in terms of safer, four-quadrant TV.” (In L.A., a “four-quadrant” project is one that aims to appeal to all demographics.) “I think a lot of people,” he said, “who were disenfranchised or marginalized—their drink tickets are up.” Indeed, multiple writers and executives told me that following the strike, studio choices have skewed even more conservative than before. “It seems like buyers are much less adventurous,” one writer said. “Buyers are looking for Friends.”
There’s no reason to believe that this type of caution will pay off. The supposed sure shot of IP is currently misfiring: in 2023, Disney’s The Marvels fell more than $64 million short of breaking even, and its Indiana Jones sequel drastically underperformed. The Flash, for Warner Bros. Discovery, lost millions, and the company’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods flopped. (In the case of Barbie—the loudest exception—the writers, Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, were given extraordinary free rein.) As Zack Stentz put it, “Hollywood is based on giving audiences what they might not know. Any attempt to drive risk out of that process is sooner or later doomed to failure.” His words played off an old adage by the screenwriter William Goldman. “Nobody knows anything,” he wrote. “Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for certain what’s going to work.” But investments in the alchemy of the creative process do not perform well in quarterly reports.
The film and TV industry is now controlled by only four major companies, and it is shot through with incentives to devalue the actual production of film and television. What is to be done? The most direct solution would be government intervention. If it wanted to, a presidential administration could enforce existing antitrust law, break up the conglomerates, and begin to pull entertainment companies loose from asset-management firms. It could regulate the use of financial tools, as deWaard has suggested; it could rein in private equity. The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
>It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
This is exactly the reason everything is so bad right now you stupid c**t. Patronage systems ultimately become bureaucratic extractive entities that don't really create anything but exist to extract rents from tax payers.
Hollywood basically has 'universal income for writers' with the union forcing 20 people writers rooms even though 1-2 writers is nearly always better. Yellowjackets S1 was written by 2 people. It became a hit so FX forced a 26 person diverse writer team for S2 and the show completely fell apart and went to shit. Forced diversity and too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth.
Hollywood will eventually just outsource everything to third world countries.
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They will outsource everything to AI. I personally think some of these shows like how I met your father have scripts written entirely by AI. There is no way actual humans are coming up with alot of this bullshit that Hollywood is pumping out recently
There’s no reason to believe that this type of caution will pay off. The supposed sure shot of IP is currently misfiring: in 2023, Disney’s The Marvels fell more than $64 million short of breaking even, and its Indiana Jones sequel drastically underperformed. The Flash, for Warner Bros. Discovery, lost millions, and the company’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods flopped. (In the case of Barbie—the loudest exception—the writers, Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, were given extraordinary free rein.) As Zack Stentz put it, “Hollywood is based on giving audiences what they might not know. Any attempt to drive risk out of that process is sooner or later doomed to failure.” His words played off an old adage by the screenwriter William Goldman. “Nobody knows anything,” he wrote. “Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for certain what’s going to work.” But investments in the alchemy of the creative process do not perform well in quarterly reports.
The film and TV industry is now controlled by only four major companies, and it is shot through with incentives to devalue the actual production of film and television. What is to be done? The most direct solution would be government intervention. If it wanted to, a presidential administration could enforce existing antitrust law, break up the conglomerates, and begin to pull entertainment companies loose from asset-management firms. It could regulate the use of financial tools, as deWaard has suggested; it could rein in private equity. The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
> “I think that there will be an industry move to the middle in terms of safer, four-quadrant TV.” (In L.A., a “four-quadrant” project is one that aims to appeal to all demographics.) > in 2023, Disney’s The Marvels fell more than $64 million short of breaking even, and its Indiana Jones sequel drastically underperformed. The Flash, for Warner Bros. Discovery, lost millions, and the company’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods flopped. > The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
So, relentlessly spam woketarded shit at average Americans, they quite rightly reject this crap and the answer is to force them to pay Hollywood with their tax dollars?...
Blame the bailouts in 2009. The bailouts incentivized this behavior. Every fricking corporation thinks it's too big to fail and that the government will bail it out with taxpayer money. They are acting like they are part of the state, and the scary part is that the government might see them that way as well. The US is/probably on the way to becoming no different than China.
Horseshit, they will 100% not back down on woke nonsense, and even if they do there is no longer a proper vetting process to ensure that screenwriters put in charge of huge projects have any talent. It's literally over, the emperor has no clothes.
Yeah they cannot fix this bullshit. The lame, stupid, low talent people have taken over the estate and you can't undo ideological capture that allows mediocre people to rise way beyond their stations. They will fight to the death to keep what they don't deserve.
When they say "conservative" they don't mean "non-woke" they mean "avoids risky projects and plays it safe". Depending who their demo is, this can mean more woke, not less. But from the sound of things, they are trying to broaden their demos rather than narrow them, which means dialing back the woke.
Democracy. Democratic politics stunts politics to 4 year cycles. No one thinks about 8 years or even 20 years down the line. Even worse is that since the 60s, politicians realized you could loot the treasury to buy votes, basically stealing from future generations for short term gain. None of these problems are new. We are just at the stage 3-4 cancer diagnosis of decline.
We are simply in the looting stage of democracy. These problems are not confined to Hollywood. If America is an old estate house, then what has been happening is that the last family to live there sold all their silver and debt collectors are now stripping the walls of copper pipes. This is not really the consequence of Capitalism or "Wokenism"/communism but something even deeper. Call it civilizational malaise. Rome fell over two centuries. It will probably take 50 to destroy the post war western "democracy" model.
The best descriptor of what's going on is "short termism". No one plans or even thinks about the future. People plan for the next year or so. The people who started building the Notre Dame knew that they wouldn't live to see the completion of their work, but they took comfort in the legacy they would leave for posterity. That project took 200 years to complete. Imagine anyone trying to implement a project lasting more than 5 years now. Imagine the US even trying to revive the Apollo program. It's structurally impossible because of election cycles.
Decline of Christianity, Globalism, no one has any vision for the future. No one feels connected to a particular ethos or demos. There is no shared vision of humanity. We are ruled by tiny men who hate greatness.
It's more >vision of the future
Christianity can at times be anti future, anti "why bother about the world that is, the world of god is what matters".
Like I mentioned a sec ago, the Brit parliament decided there was no reason to deal with climate change in their green deal because nobody paying for it would benefit for it in their lives. Reject a shitty green deal for being ineffective is fine, rejecting something because "I won't be alive to benefit" is horrid. Our leadership/managerial class either have no children or worse, are remarkably contemptuous and hateful of them. I have never seen the generational antipathy we have today where a generation actively wants things worse for the next. Not >This up and coming generation is morally flawed and not as good as we are, we need to help correct them. "We're going to keep trying to strengthen the American family, to make them more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons."
but rather >This up and coming generation is morally flawed and not as good as we are, frick em, they deserve to suffer. I can't wait to laugh and mock them on facebook.
That kind of people in power, and that kind of people engendering that sentiment in any quislings who suck at their teat and inherit their roles, are not going to look kindly on their fellow citizens. Again, they're going to see them more like a colonial subject than a countryman/woman.
>smart person invents company, invests money well, treats employees ok, uses technology to increase productivity >one generation later gets gutted by shitty kids, shareholders, or private equity
A tale as old as time. The big problem now is that you can't fricking create a business the ethical way anymore because the entry is gatekept by regulators, lobbyists and lawyers. You basically need to act like an underhanded israelite to get anything done.
Right, it's that copypasta of pic related. Even if the precise details he offers are wrong, the general sentiment is correct. That's how it is now, and for many industries now you have to deal with wienersucking israelite or pajeet hustling grifters.
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The regulators are just commie rent seekers. Corporations like regulations because regulations kill their competition. Communists and corporatists pat each other on the back.
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>Christianity can at times be anti future, anti "why bother about the world that is, the world of god is what matters".
This is modernized, pozzed Christians who don't actually read the Bibles regularly, like they're supposed to. Ancient Christianity, you know the og belief system, used to really care about future generations.
>Reject a shitty green deal for being ineffective is fine, rejecting something because "I won't be alive to benefit" is horrid. Our leadership/managerial class either have no children or worse, are remarkably contemptuous and hateful of them.
This is exactly what my godless grandpa told my dad and his sisters when he got old. They're not even bad people lol, he was just really selfish. He used to beat my grandma and pay for hookers. He died without a will, just shitty probate where the state took most of the estate.
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It's everywhere. And I don't think it's necessarily israelites or grifters, just that many people genuinely believe that they must do everything in their power to make things "safer" and "better" for everyone, and in the process make it all worthless. I'm at Uni and this kind of thing is everywhere. "To minimize suffering and to maximize security were natural and proper ends of society. But then they became the only ends, somehow, and the only basis of law–a perversion. Inevitably, then, in seeking only them, we found only their opposites: maximum suffering and minimum security."
Orson Welles has a nice little video on the increasing securitisation of society.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can just say that society caters to women now.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
or you could be like the other guy and have more than a sentence fragment to say about it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Safety = predictability
It's detrimental to the functioning of the machine of society to have unpredictable/unsafe elements. We've started to gear society towards serving itself as an independent godlike machine, and making the machine more efficient, rather than serving the interests of actual human beings.
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bots all the way down
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Ellul described them as "human techniques"
The book came out in 1954
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It also means that your savings becomes worthless.
There's a lot of boomers who spent their entire lives paying into saving accounts, 401k, anything represented in cash and just had a big fat slab of over 10% of the total effective value just disappeared into the magic that is inflation printing which eviscerated their ability to retire.
Not that I care about boomers in the slightest, but it killed any notion that you should save for the future. Either keep your wealth in physical objects to hand that bag off to somebody else or don't keep it at all. This means that a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck and could not handle a cash based emergency, which also makes them more likely dependent of the government for gibs, which also drives up costs because the government sucks donkey dick at spending money efficiently.
It's getting really cutthroat out there and harder to go to the grocery store and not spend hundreds on a single trip.
this image feels fitting to match that video
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It's mostly the woman faction doing that. 50% of the voting base are all pic related consensus voters and vote lockstep for total commie domination every time. Then you stack the easily baitable minority vote on top of that and it's impossible to stop the political slide into clown world.
We live in a c**tocracy because women were elevated too high for too long so they got everywhere in critical roles. Meanwhile all the traditional institutions for turning boys into men and men into gentlemen got gutted so Stacy could feel included and get Chad's wiener.
It's simply how humans are. Everything must pass away and die in time, we've just had a good run in the past odd century. There is no such thing as endless "progress", a thing is built, and it eventually collapses. The Greek demos collapsed, Rome collapsed into Feudalism, Feudalism collapsed into nation-states, the European consensus collapsed, etc. We just have the bad luck to be living in the decline of Western democracy. God was a dream of good government.
Except the future looks brown, ugly, and low IQ for at least the next few centuries. This is a sort of decline that will be hard to claw back from. The fundamental problem is that most people alive today should not exist and the only reason they do exist is because of scientific advancements made by Europeans in the 19th and 20th centuries.
i think these terms can be reduced to their purest form which is laziness. lazy people who don't want to think into the future and calculate possibilities. lazy people who don't want to interview a lot of people until they find the right candidate for the job. lazy people who want to demand you watch their wokeslop instead of find a way to pique your interest.
it's nothing nefarious, just a chronic case of laziness across the entire western hemisphere
It's this. The shortsighted, number-pumping business culture is everywhere--not just tv, not just media in general--everywhere. I don't want to call it a collapse, but some existing systems are definitely going to have to buckle and snap, and then people will build new ones.
Immediate gratification investors are pretty much a universal root of shitty homosexualry in our economies/societies. I was seeing red listening to a podcast about how smuckers is a family owned company with a seniority shareholder priority (longer you've been with them more your vote counts) and naturally some parasitic b***h screeched about how that was discriminatory to shareholders.
I can't say it over in /k/ or I get pillored but I see very alarming parallels in Russia with the US. That is to say some of the same systemic rot over there (Rampant corruption, nepotism, keep your head down and don't rock the boat) is slowly, or not so slowly, percolating up and up. Institutional lethargy. Hell, I just saw NPR canned the guy who worked there and called them out publicly for being too partisan and one of the complaints was he didn't do it through private channels but instead took them to task in public. Which is peak institutional rot - caring more about keeping things in house and not embarrassing the institution.
It's this. The shortsighted, number-pumping business culture is everywhere--not just tv, not just media in general--everywhere. I don't want to call it a collapse, but some existing systems are definitely going to have to buckle and snap, and then people will build new ones.
When the UK had some parliamentary research of a green new deal, they declared that it was not fair to burden taxpayers with something they would not be alive to benefit from. Now a green new deal is moronic and it's fine to decline it, but to literally say the antithesis of "great men plant trees they'll never sit in the shade of" was starkly illuminating. Literally >Only a fricking rube idiot is going to plant a tree he won't sit in the shade of
>smart person invents company, invests money well, treats employees ok, uses technology to increase productivity >one generation later gets gutted by shitty kids, shareholders, or private equity
A tale as old as time. The big problem now is that you can't fricking create a business the ethical way anymore because the entry is gatekept by regulators, lobbyists and lawyers. You basically need to act like an underhanded israelite to get anything done.
the problem is that the republic was couped through legislation attempting to turn the usa into a democracy. democracy isn't freedom, it's totalitarian rule that naturally leads to autocracy. the usa can be fixed with mass deportations and relocations and by repealing the 14th, 17th and 19th amendments
the problem is that the republic was couped through legislation attempting to turn the usa into a democracy. democracy isn't freedom, it's totalitarian rule that naturally leads to autocracy. the usa can be fixed with mass deportations and relocations and by repealing the 14th, 17th and 19th amendments
You’re idiots. It can be a democracy and Constitutional Republic at the same time. They aren’t like strategy game focuses where you choose one or the other.
>This is not really the consequence of Capitalism or "Wokenism"/communism but something even deeper. Call it civilizational malaise.
While I agree with your point, it shouldn't be ignored that woke capitalism is the vehicle by which this malaise is occurring.
>In late 2008, the Fed reduced the interest rate to almost zero. With piles of cash and cheap credit in hand, asset-management companies and private-equity firms set out for the frontiers of various U.S. industries. Over the next decade, three asset-management companies—BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street—would take over American business, becoming the largest shareholders of 88 percent of the S&P 500, the roughly five hundred biggest public U.S. companies. Private-equity firms—distinguished by their intent to sell the properties they acquire—would eventually be the backing for at least 7 percent of American jobs.
>To these speculators, Hollywood looked like a gold mine: the studios and entertainment corporations were ripe with redundancies and inefficiencies to be axed—costs to be cut, parts to be sold, profits to be diverted to shareholders, executives, and new, often unrelated ventures. And thanks to the deregulation of the preceding decades, the industry was wide open. Financial institutions could snatch up or take over large portions of companies in any area of the business; they could even acquire or substantially invest in groups in competition with one another—and they did, creating types of soft monopoly.
>Bets were even placed against the traditional industry as a whole, in the form of investments in Netflix, which promised to disrupt and dominate at-home viewing. Today the Big Three asset-management firms hold the largest stakes in most rival companies in media and entertainment. As of the end of last year, Vanguard, for example, owned the largest stake in Disney, Netflix, Comcast, Apple, and Warner Bros. Discovery. It holds a substantial share of Amazon and Paramount Global. By 2010, private-equity companies had acquired MGM, Miramax, and AMC Theatres, and had scooped up portions of Hulu and DreamWorks. Private equity now has its hands in Univision, Lionsgate, Skydance, and more.
>mith now knows that Dickinson was the company’s most-watched show in its second and third seasons. But at the time, she had no access to concrete information about its performance. As was the habit among streamers, Apple didn’t share viewership data with its writers. And without that data, Smith had no leverage. In 2020, after three seasons, she told Apple that she was done. “I said, I can’t do it anymore. And Apple said, Okay.”
Amerimutts need to legislate to prevent this asap
Not only will it benefit writers, it will also make it impossible for companies to pretend "WOKESLOP 5000 was the most watched streaming show (on a Wednesday night)!"
Now we will know how much of a failure the star wars shows and Amazon's LOTR were
It's a crazy story about that Dickinson writer. They were so starry eyed and hopeful. A tale straight out of Mulholland Drive. They went to LA and became a writer for Apple, who showed her that on the inside all these companies are just rotten con artists with a woke mask to avoid all criticism.
This midwit sharticle is being shared everywhere, and the grand conclusion at the end is that they need governments to intervene and give UBI to writers (unironically).
There's been a lot of desperate screeching in the trades lately because the writer's strike completely backfired on the diversity hire homosexuals who championed it. Now the cost-cutting has begun with these worthless idiots first on the chopping block and their last gasp is to claim that the Hollywood sky is falling, but really it's just that the cancer is being removed. This is what the beginning of New Hollywood II looks like.
Lmao, bruh, “new_Hollywood_2.exe” will be installed and ran locally on your midrange computer inside this decade. The idea a new studio system is going to form is just stupid.
It's the same in every publicly traded company pretty much. Short term thinking has been the dominant mode since 2008. Nobody makes long-term investments anymore. It's why you don't see any new mega corporations anymore. The kind of companies that Google, Amazon, etc used to be don't get founded now. Only "Unicorn startups" that are in it to make a quick buck with their IPO and then all the original founders cash out. There will never be another Jeff Bezoes who runs his company at a loss for 20 years with near-worthless stock only for it to steadily gain value as he plows whatever revenue he makes back into his business. That kind of thinking is utter madness nowadays, nobody could get away with it.
Only if you have real shitheads as shareholders. With privately traded companies you have some amount of control over who becomes a shareholder, you can gatekeep, hopefully, unless the shitheads are part of the founders. With a publicly traded company you can't keep the shitheads from buying their way onto the board. In fact it's all but guaranteed to happen.
>Trillions of National Debt >Bank bailouts >Corporate subsidies >Welfare >Social housing >Interventionism >Stock buybacks >Fiat currency >Quantitative Easing >Central banking >Too big to fail >World Bank >International Monetary Fund
There is not going to be a 'based' Hollywood 2.0, lol. These companies are not subject to supply and demand.
>These companies are not subject to supply and demand.
Correct, but all the things you listed are everywhere today. So instead of an economic correction and the market killing a bad business, we'll probably have a full collapse of the whole system.
Even Black folk are starting to admit that that massive PPP fraud committed by Blacks didn't help them at all. It all got spent on dumb consooomer slop.
Based Black person facing reality
Every time I see something like this it comes just in time to keep me from falling into total and genuine racism instead of mild bantz
Honestly I hope they never correct. It has been hell for people who want to enjoy entertainment products but it has been really good for waking people up to who is fricking everything up.
>It centers an unapologetic, queer female lead >In Apple TV+’s initial smattering of shows,” wrote the Washington Post, “only ‘Dickinson’ is a delicious surprise.” It received a 2019 Peabody Award; in 2021 it made the New York Times’ list of best programs of the year and won a Rotten Tomatoes prize for Fan Favorite TV Series.
Was it good or it was fact-checker and paid review articles "good"?
It doesn't matter if it's 'good' (it's not), no one is paying money to watch lesbian shows. But they will keep making them because if not then drumpf will win. Right now when I open up Amazon Prime, there's an ad for a period piece show with Juilianne Moore and two men kissing. NO ONE wants to see that shit, and god knows how much money has been wasted trying to force it down everyone's throats.
>Right now when I open up Amazon Prime >THERE ARE PROBLEMS...
I have no problems on my streaming platform.
I just write the show I want to download and it gives me a lot of sources of IPs that share fragments of that show.
I sometimes have to write -2160 or -720 or even web or hevc|265 if I'm certain the streaming platforms offer a good encoding but that's about it.
I can stream it as well if I download in sequential ordering.
My streaming platform is called torrenting and it includes the content of every single other one in existence.
Yea 95% of it is garbage. But I tend to now download it at all because I can just search Cinemaphile archives or even ask a LLM like Claude to summarize it for me if it's old enough and in its training data as it used Cinemaphile archives for that.
Sometimes even Californian woke writers can write a good script, eg. Arcane was a nice thing. Sure the magic of it is thanks to the storyboard artists and so on which enriched it. Also animators took a lot of freedom with the script giving it a more organic experience, the animators who had all the time in world and were paid well and were took care of during dead-time with meaningful jobs by Riot Games.
This is rare anyway but I'm thankful for the product.
Truth is that AIPAC just needs a few rich israelites to help them out, doesn't need countless tiny donations.
And given how election cycles in US go more expensive by each cycle it's basically guaranteed that their agenda will be as good as as guaranteed by Constitution without that being the case formally.
You mean like the rich having all the power? And by “rich,” I don’t mean politicians who are in the pocket of banks, corporations, billionaires
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The taxes I pay don't go to me. Those rich people use my taxes to bribe turd world dictators and pay for Black person upkeep. It's ok to hate both the rich and the poor because they are both scum.
Contrary to what you believe, votes do matter, and if you don't keep the voting cattle pacified they will vote you out of office. Fortunately it's extremely easy to win over vast swathes of the electorate with very little effort. Just look at the black vote. Democrats don't even bother to pander to them and they have the black vote locked up.
It doesn't matter to you, the voter, but it matters to the politicians a lot. They very much want to be in power, they wouldn't have bothered running for office if they didn't because campaigning is a giant hassle, not to mention very expensive, especially if you lose your election.
Once in power it's very easy to abuse your position to become extremely wealthy, which is why career politicians are a thing. They will continually run for the highest office they are eligible for. This desire to remain in office causes them to react to shifts in voter opinion, often to overreact, if they think it might jeopardize their reelection. How much the politician responds to voter sentiment shows you how volatile the political situation is. The less a politician seems to care about anger from his constituents, the more he has captured and locked down votes through single issue voters or else racial voting blocs like the blacks.
>Hollywood - The new effective bosses of the industry—colossal conglomerates, asset-management companies, and private-equity firms—had not been simply pushing workers too hard and grabbing more than their fair share of the profits. They had been stripping value from the production system like copper pipes from a house—threatening the sustainability of the studios themselves.
Gordon Gekko.
>Profit will of course find a way; there will always be shit to watch. But without radical intervention, whether by the government or the workers, the industry will become unrecognizable.
Please don't.
I'd rather the government finance traditional publishing avenues. Books have more depth and are cheaper to produce.
It’s too late anyway. Americans are in Black person nation tier debt to the debt interest they can longer afford to pay. That's what every globalist bag of shit politician has been doing since the 1960-1970s.
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>1971 end of Bretton Woods agreements
Would be a much better marker on this chart
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Anonymous
How about this?
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Anonymous
Ending Bretton Woods decoupled wages from productivity.
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Are you the guy who recc'd "a history of central banking, and the enslavement off mankind" in the culture of conspiracy thread?
It also means that your savings becomes worthless.
There's a lot of boomers who spent their entire lives paying into saving accounts, 401k, anything represented in cash and just had a big fat slab of over 10% of the total effective value just disappeared into the magic that is inflation printing which eviscerated their ability to retire.
Not that I care about boomers in the slightest, but it killed any notion that you should save for the future. Either keep your wealth in physical objects to hand that bag off to somebody else or don't keep it at all. This means that a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck and could not handle a cash based emergency, which also makes them more likely dependent of the government for gibs, which also drives up costs because the government sucks donkey dick at spending money efficiently.
It's getting really cutthroat out there and harder to go to the grocery store and not spend hundreds on a single trip.
That's why you keep your savings in the form of art and israeliteelry and gold and other things that increase in value with inflation instead of deprecating.
This is why the Biden shills who say "b-but real wages have caught up with inflation" are full of shit. No shit interest rates and wages are up, but inflation didn't effect everyone equally and the opportunity cost between the inflationary period and the "recovery" is a massive opportunity cost.
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*and the opportunity cost between the inflationary period and the "recovery" is a massive burden
The "flight from money" is one of the telltale signs of hyperinflation starting. People divest themselves of cash as soon as they get it, because anything they want to buy is only going to go up in price in the near future, so it's better to buy now than to wait and have your cash lose value.
For the wealthy, this means buying up properties. For poors, it means stocking up on staples that last a long time.
Depends on whether the debt is sovereign or not. Japan has a lot of debt but they mostly owe it to themselves so they could nationalize the debt and screw over all the boomers who bought bonds. The US uses debt to establish dollar as a reserve currency. 30% of US debt is foreign owned. We could potentially never service those loans but then no one would want to buy our debt and the dollar would lose reserve currency status.
It’s too late anyway. Americans are in Black person nation tier debt to the debt interest they can longer afford to pay. That's what every globalist bag of shit politician has been doing since the 1960-1970s.
Dont worry about debt.
They can just print more money to pay it off.
lol when boomers were young the movie industry was like this >vague conversation about a movie idea >let's shake hands we'll pay you multiple times the average household income just for this beta script
exactly like in the memes posted around Cinemaphile lol
you only got treated like that after already having hits, and today you can still get that in exchange for slumming it and making something for a pre-existing IP.
I think the article is full of shit. It feel;s like it was written by a sperg and it's full of factual errors and appeals to authorities that he probably didn't even read, just got info from news articles that mentioned those.
Disregard what I said it's probably moronation and confusion on the writer's part, he probably saw those boomer memes and re-wrote history in his head by way of 1 2 misunderstood anecdotes.
I've read the article, and basically the numbers it provides as the "golden age" still aren't really that great.
e.g. $90k (in todays money) for working on a premium cable show for 5 months only seems good if you ignore that today you need a six-figure income to pay the mortgage on a suburban house in California.
other stuff, like writers in the 90s getting paid big bux for spec scripts, fails to mention that the big numbers would include rewrites and a bonus if the script got produced, which it might not be for fricking years if at all (e.g. the Game, by Fincher, sold in '91 but wasn't released until '97). so the writer would be expected to live on a subsection of the money from a sale and get other writing work on the strength of it, often while rewriting their original script in ways that made it worse.
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That's the risk you take when everyone rents or gets credit to buy a home in a pyramid scheme of house prices and retirement fund requirements. All you can pray for is inflation to clear your credit away faster but them the pyramid scheme becomes worse.
>The truth was that the forces that had opened doors for Smith were the same ones that had made her individual work seem not to matter. They were the same forces that had been degrading writers’ working lives for some time, and they were cannibalizing the business of Hollywood itself.
WokeBlack folk getting hoisted by their own petard.
>When the strike was over, it was February 2008. The United States was three months into what would later be understood as the Great Recession. In an effort to stimulate the economy, the Federal Reserve had begun cutting interest rates in September, and over the following eighteen months it provided financial institutions with more than $7.7 trillion in capital.
This is such a moronic mistake, could've at least googled since it sounds ridiculous even on paper.
I doubt the utility of this article and the intelligence level of the writer.
7.7 trillions were promised as a ceiling but MUUUUUUCH less was given out, for a short time then suddenly stopped, also all of it was paid out at a slightly larger nominal value than when borrowed but when adjusting for inflation at a slight loss for the US government, alas, the writer is moronic.
That movie should be required watching for everyone on Cinemaphile.
There are no Russians, there are no Arabs, there is no West! There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast, and immense, interwoven, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.
The real kicker to me is that they are so fricked up they can't even do proper re-releases of old stuff anymore without royally fricking them up by doing stupid shit like cropping 4:3 TV shows to 16:9, smudging the picture with horrendous grain removal filters and of course turning everything BLUE. The amount of aggressive incompetence needed to frick up an already finished product through such braindead meddling says it all. They are doomed.
This does nothing to explain hiring people who make a bunch of stupid decisions and waste a lot of money just to put out something that customers hate. Oftentimes, these people have a proven track record of failure. Doesn't seem to me like Hollywood was very concerned with profits at all.
Don't let the media memory hole the role of Marxist subversion in destroying western entertainment. Customer revenue is not some mystic entity that appears from out of the aether. Customers spend money to see content that they enjoy. That requires having a meritocracy where people are hired and given work based on skill and performance, not whether they check a box or know the right people. The destruction of meritocracy is also expensive in terms of the cost of laziness, drama, and fixing mistakes. None of this does anything to help quarterly profits.
some of the issue is that these woke leftist liberal writers are all thats graduating from colleges nowadays
2/3rds women, half non-white, thats modern college grads
Yep. Like I said, the genie is out of the bottle. There was a point, MAYBE in 2010 or 2011, where if they just let streaming be this kind of place where your backwash went, with things advancing to where enthusiastic could spend $100 a month on like, the Criterion Collection, or something, that might've worked. Streaming movies, to be profitable, should consist of shit like Kangaroo Jack, a couple seasons of some old sitcom, and maybe one or two movies worth actually watching.
But the unfathomable thing is they were incredibly generous with streaming. They devalued their brands. And while that's great for you and me, it fricked over Hollywood. And well, honestly, good at this point, but I'm just pointing out how fricking crazy it was studios gave up their entire catalog for $100-$200 a year.
And its a subscription, so they have to keep producing this high budget content to keep people around
How many subscribers do you gain and keep for spending 500 million on a a single season ??
It can be summed up as Hollywood putting the cart before the horse, assuming that they could dictate what the audience would like, instead of playing to their audience's taste. This is partly due to the arrogance of Hollywood's elite. They had a long run of very popular movies, of growing revenues, of outrageously popular celebrity movie stars capturing the public imagination. At some point, they forgot that none of that is guaranteed to them. The public doesn't owe them money, or even its attention.
This was likely exacerbated by what this article talks about, the wave of financiers entering showbiz without any understanding of how it works, their blind idiot money incentivizing the wrong kind of projects.
This. It seems like a lot of wealthy liberal boomers/gen-xers think this gender revolution BLM shit is the inevitable future since they grew up with the success of 60s civil rights. They buy into the progressive view of things.
It's mostly zoomer males who seem to intimately understand what a massive joke it is even if they're otherwise fairly liberal (broadly speaking).
>They buy into the progressive view of things.
In a way, the progressive view is self-defeating. Confidence in progress becomes blind faith in the inevitability of progress. Being confident in progress gives you the courage to try new things after weighing the risks, but belief in the inevitability of progress makes people blind to the risks they are taking.
This. The belief in the idea of progress as some intangible process that cannot be exploited or controlled is used maliciously against normies by bad actors who want to control people. If you frame any idea as "progress" you can get away with blatant abuse. Nothing typifies this more than the troon menace.
I was reading an article where (paraphrasing) justine bateman said the orders from above said to not have complicated storylines so people wouldn't be confused when they'd look up from their second screens.
It has happened before, it will happen again. Picrelated is about the 19th century before the world wars. Religious belief comes all too easily to us humans, and it blinds us to the troubles that loom on the horizon. The same is happening in Hollywood as is happening all over the world. "Things are good now, why should I worry about later? Money is everything. My faith in (Hollywood, progressivism, money, etc.) will save me, because it is good and hasn't failed me before."
they are making exactly what you all actually watch. what people have found out is that what people say they want and what they actually watch is totally opposing. kind of like women liking 'nice guys'. film/tv viewers want trash, and they want to complain about trash, but they don't actually know what the frick they really want.
>there is no secret world of good hollywood that makes what you dumb fricks think it should.
The people at the top are not "woke". Pic related was from 2015. Wokeness was a cloak to shield themselves from criticism, make their dumb employees happy (trading material gains for spiritual gains), and a way to shill for the Clinton wing of the Democrats.
I will never understand how an idiot like Amy Pascal came to run Sony pictures. Reading those e-mails was like reading some catty high school girl’s text messages
At least with some people in charge, they have knowledge and experience that can help guide their decision making. They may make what prove to be the wrong decisions but they are at least based on some rationale. Pascal just seemed like some woman grabbed off the street to run a movie studio.
I don't think it's entirely cynical, either. If you actually look at the elite institutions they're all drinking the kool-aid. It's basically the end of a feedback loop of people taking enlightenment ideals out of context then pushing them to illogical conclusions. They're working within the framework they were given and are trying to one up their predecessors; now we're at the point of absurdity.
Going outside of a framework is like changing operating systems; it isn't easy and it's unlikely that a person would be willing to burn everything they think they know about the world.
It's painful to watch.
I would unironically prefer ruthless pragmatists to the loony troon clownshow. The best would be pragmatic idealists in power; the absolute worst is narcissistic "idealists"; ruthless pragmatists are in the middle.
Streaming services like Disney+ and Paramount+ ignored the treasure chests they were sitting on and instead dumped all of their money into new content that ended up being pretty bad. If Disney+ had just been all of their old movies, documentaries about how those movies were made, interviews with directors and animators, animated shorts, the stuff that was deep in their vault, etc. people would have been satisfied.
The liberal post world order cannot ensure for much longer. Groids, wetbacks and jeets are abusing asylum rules that were set up for israelites fleeing the Holocaust. Even Canadian liberals are mad.
Yep. I wonder how many European kids are coming home from school to their dumb shitlib parents covered in bruises from the muslims beating the shit out of them. At some point they'll have to admit some mistakes were made.
If the parents can't stop huffing their own farts, at least the kids are going to understand how bad their parents fricked them.
End of Bretton Woods -> depressed dollar -> money is cheap -> artificially low interest rates -> riskier investments -> globalization -> short termism
These issues are not intractable. The government could reign in inflation but that would mean cucking the rich, outsourcing rentier class that they belong to.
Cinemaphile is the only site that offers true dialectics to flourish. Reddit is antithetical to challenging ideas, it simply forces compliance and mandates the group accepted opinion.
You morons didn't realize it, but after 20 years the Cinemaphile format created the most perfect reasoning forum in human history. By simply coming here debating sweatily for hours over the most trivial nonsense, you've been exercising your logic and reasoning skills. While other sites were trying to gather as many users by running down the platform and being as inclusive as possible, Cinemaphile has been gatekeeping.
And this created an evolutionary pressure to produce only the most enlightened posters.
Lmfao the worst mistake a Cinemaphile poster can make is self-aggrandizing themselves for posting here and aggrandizing Cinemaphile for anything more than it actually is.
My enlightened brother we are done with the age of self depreciation. From now on Cinemaphile is the site of patricians, enlightened gentlemen, true euphoric kings.
Cinemaphile is just another analytics and profit driven website where it's users are the products to be given to advertisers.
It's anonymity, low barrier to entry, and accessibility are all just part of the perception that it's not evolved into the mass it's taken on today and to mimick the ideology that it could be some 3rd space on the internet. Which the lack there of is the biggest problem with the digitalized space we occupy and the world we live in.
The problem is those same things are the exact driving force behind its decline. The advertisers blur the line between the user discussing something and actual shilling campaigns.
Then you've got the schizo with the megaphone equivalent in the park shouting the world is going to end, but he can run an endless robotic army of posters each with their own megaphone drowning out any other rhetoric or discussion.
There is nothing more enlightened here or greater than any websites controversial section, nor that much more different than the wild wasteland X has allowed to become.
It's just more of the same the only difference is you prefer how it's structured.
This. Any website where you can get banned for typing "Black person" is not free from the tentacles of advertisers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I thought the whole point of that was due to the constant spam of said word all over this website by /b/tards and stormgays?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No it's because Hiro tried to make blueboards more appealing to advertisers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's to scare kids and make them behave, you could get banned for writing Black person randomly even in 2008 and it never stopped being a rule breaking thing.
This. Any website where you can get banned for typing "Black person" is not free from the tentacles of advertisers.
What is this chatGPT drivel?
Complete non sequitur babbling.
Or then people really lack basic literacy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Found the paid shill trying to accuse other posters of being bots.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Muh literacy
Found the deflecting NPC
At least vary your scripts jesus chirst.
Your input in the thread has ironically only been trying to devalue any discussion here.
Why do you even post here, even effortpost, if the discussion is so meaningless and shit here?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure it's this guy
Nice.
Your post surely won't anger or irritate the paid Ivanshills whatsoever.
I've seen him in multiple threads pulling the "everyone who disagrees with the clinton democratic machine is a russian shill" routine. Always uses the "okay, Ivan" line. He's either a shill himself or just some moron/troll. Ignore him.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeh, it is pretty obvious
1. make an efforpost saying how efforposting here is pointless
2. pre-emptively samegay trying to cover being called out for bullshit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah the shill doesn't even try to argue. It just accuses posters of being bots.
The biggest red pill of the modern world as a human being is to adjust yourself to quarterly goals and a quarterly lifestyle.
Have a day equivalent to a birthday in every quarter. At the end of every quarter treat it like a new year a new you. Didn't meet quarterly expectations last time? New season, new quarter, and time to earn.
Everybody is so caught up in long term goals, living year to year as life passes the by but bam 70? Just quadrupled your life to 280 with this simple trick.
amazed how damaging is that private-equity thing, can only wonder how much is being used by foreign interests to loot institutions from the inside out
True. It's all very shady with outlandish numbers
>2008
Same year as the writer's strike and capeshit kicking into high gear. What a remarkable coincidence.
>NOOOO IT'S ALL THE CREATIVE'S FAULT NOT THE COMPLEX INCENTIVE PROBLEM DESCRIBED IN THE OP
whatever garry
Why don't you write movies that are better than the Klan of Magical Black folks?
The whole country imploded that year in nearly every aspect and now everything's moronic and gay.
THANKS OBAMA
Yeah, that's what changed the economy in 2008 you fricking moron. Global financial collapse was irrelevant.
Very good read, lines up with what I've observed along with my father
Frick mega corps, called it a decade ago when all these tech companies were siphoning the middle class of their money and shifting it to the leftist bourgeois classes of California
>Currently, the machine is sputtering, running on fumes. According to research by Bloomberg, in 2013 the largest companies in film and television were more than $20 billion in the black; by 2022, that number had fallen by roughly half. From 2021 to 2022, revenue growth for the industry dropped by almost 50 percent. At U.S. box offices, by the end of last year, revenue was down 22 percent from 2019. Experts estimate that cable-television revenue has fallen 40 percent since 2015. Streaming has rarely been profitable at all. Until very recently, Netflix was the sole platform to make money; among the other companies with streaming services, only Warner Bros. Discovery’s platforms may have eked out a profit last year.
awesome! they nuked the film industry for streaming services that don't even make money !
This is why having these moronic Cali tech CEOs in charge of anything is doomed to fail, they think short term and only about their CEO pay
are you saying that companies capable of producing hits like Rings of Power and Foundation are unlikely to replace the role of the traditional media?
It's progressive
I think it's funny that you're most likely not even white yourself.
>would shit his pants making this accusation on his home territory (twitter)
>they think short term and only about their CEO pay
They are obliged by law to only think about profit, and yes that means short term for them and the corporations they rule.
>They are obliged by law to only think about profit,
Lol right. By "law". Because we all know mega corporations strictly operate within the law
Anon is right. Companies have to put shareholders first. Dodge vs. Ford. Look it up.
NTA, but I remember this. They made it illegal to not be a prostitute (a prostitute for profit); kind of funny how prostitution is simultaneously illegal and illegal to not be a prostitute in America.
Which number dropped by half? Also, I thought Netflix had never made a profit?
Revenue growth between 2021 and 2022 dropped by almost half.
The article is interesting in that, on the one hand, it reinforces Cinemaphile's "go woke get broke" trope while on the other it completely contradicts Cinemaphile's pol troop "profits don't matter! it's all about ESG" drivel.
Yeah but it said 20 companies had $20billion in the black but then it dropped by half, and there’s two numbers there.
>ignore ESG
Yeah no, that falls perfectly in line with the idea that woke capital is driving Black folk and lesbians into starwars
Furthermore the decision to sincerely frick with and destroy priceless IP is driven by contempt, not money. You can make good money without fricking up existing TV and movies
Yeah, no, right back at you.
"Profits don't matter, it's all about promoting certain agendas" is completely, totally, utterly, and absolutely contradicted by the cited article.
ESG is 100% real and drives investment. That can’t be worked around when you consider the capital investment angle. You concede this.
If the profits mattered then they’d take measured, conservative moves that would be risk free
Instead they’re dramatically shifting recipes to suit demographics that don’t exist. You can’t square that circle by saying “it’s about money”.
Corporations are notoriously slow and filled with red tape on decision making. If it was just suits in ivory towers making bad decisions, it would look like Force Awakens, with endless self reference. Instead we get schlock like Last Jedi and contempt for canon. The contempt is 100% baked in
The article in the OP is specially talking about gamed finance models replacing whatever risk free conservative models you seem to be imagining. Which is happening because traditional models just don’t function anymore
> gamed finance models
Like ESG
> whatever risk free conservative models you seem to be imagining.
Like making a mediocre movie in existing IP without destroying the existing content
You don’t seem to be able to comprehend the idea they’re making more money with “political” movies no one likes/watches/buys than they could with any level of mass appeal, because the proliferation of all varieties of niche media means there is no more room for mass appeal.
>but they should just do niche appeal!
Would be admitting their model for the last 15 years was wrong and more than a little fraudulent, on top of the fact they’d need to completely redesign their entire internal structure to turn one 300m production into 20 15m productions.
The studios lose money but the executives and CEOs personally earn more due to fat ESG bonus payouts
The shareholders are the biggest cancer.
No, the studio games it’s own loaned/investment money back into it’s own stock value. They are pumping and dumping themselves, simultaneously.
Respecting existing cannon, characters, and theme isn’t “niche appeal”
Everyone agrees the latest starwars flicks suck donkey dong it’s true they’re making more money, but that’s in spite of their shit product. Most of their biggest IPs are failing for various reasons that ultimately come down to how fricking dog shit the movies are. You can blame corporate models all you want, but choosing to go out of your way to crush preciously existing IP to make room for your untested, nonexistent market isn’t a safe, need results now play,
Family guy and zombie Simpsons is a good example of what true sellout shit looks like - bland moronic and derivative but largely respectful of the franchise
>Respecting existing cannon, characters, and theme isn’t “niche appeal”
Yea, it is. Because the audience for each new entry in a franchise will be smaller than the previous unless there is indication of massive change sufficient to attract a new audience, or maybe, a subsequent entry elevates previous entries somehow. You always either attract new markets or suffer a slow death, in mass appeal entertainment.
And since you’re clearly talking about fallout, fallout 3 was only successful because people wanted oblivion with guns.
> Yea, it is. Because the audience for each new entry in a franchise will be smaller than the previous unless there is indication of massive change sufficient to attract a new audience, or maybe, a subsequent entry elevates previous entries somehow. You always either attract new markets or suffer a slow death, in mass appeal entertainment.
Yeah game of throne’s final season had terrible numbers that’s true. And if we didn’t shit on Luke’s character, how could anyone relate to Disney wars? If we didn’t make Indiana Jones a worthless old man and have a girl boss dunk on him, surely we’d alienate the wider audiences?!
Yeah nah.
You can respect the old and treat it well without restricting yourself. It’s a deliberate choice made by ideologically captured institutions which seek to deconstruct themselves as a substitute for actual writing
Good job missing every point.
The entire progtard agenda is 'destroy' in order to build THEIR vision of whatever that is in it's place. They actually use the term 'deconstruct' more often because 'destroy' has obvious negative connotations.
>Deconstruct/destroy capitalism.
>Deconstruct/destroy western civ.
>Deconstruct/destroy whiteness/white supremacy.
>Deconstruct/destroy the police force.
>Deconstruct/destroy the patriarchy
Deconstructing/destroying Hollywood is literally their end game. So many progtards say that Hollywood still has vestiges of racism/sexism/o
isms. They believe not in improving, but completely getting rid of everything that the west has ever created, or completely warping until it no longer resembles what it used to be. This is narcissistic tyranny, but then again this is what happens when you give the mentally ill the right to vote. Haven't you been listening to what they've been saying for the last 15 years?
The agenda comes from people who are beyond the need for profits. This article and any people b***hing about profits comes from the useful idiots who made up a majority of the industry and thought it was all about money the entire time. The ones who were actually moronic enough to let woke morons dominate the industry because they thought this was what people legitimately wanted and were actually expecting to make money from far leftist slop
Maybe the article is not written from a high enough perspective, he lacked insight into how powerful entities manipulate worldviews beyond just financial motives, or at least sees money as a tool for other mechanisms that they're aware of.
We can't have Snowden all the time, the combination of an acute mind that actually had enough vantage points to create a high-view of surveillance based on documentation and how the machine works in individual parts.
Coke pays to put their product in movies
It’s silly to think the levers of mass public perception aren’t pulled for specific reasons.
The idea that money grabbing is deciding everything is foolish. Like you said, to those with enough of it, money is a means not a goal
>"profits don't matter! it's all about ESG"
it didnt matter until it did. thats the other half of the saying "get woke", we're now entering a period of "go broke" as a consequence of that.
They can last for decades on ESG investment moneys
Companies are literally downsizing, folding, and consolidating right now. The people who were screaming for Marxist bullshit are losing their jobs en masse. It's getting up to the executive level now.
>people aren't watching TV
>people aren't streaming
>people aren't going to the movies
>most people don't pirate
How the frick are these consoombies watching all this slop then?
Social media, presumably.
>It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers
From the progtard viewpoint, why not? The gov't to them is a giant excuse to piss away $.
They are streaming, but streaming doesn't make any money since all tech startups run the same "start cheap to gain users, then ram a shitload of ads in to actually make money" scheme. On top of that production costs are insanely inflated now. TNG had a budget of about a million dollars per episode all told, and that's just the season budget divided by episodes. She Hulk cost 25 MILLION DOLLARS per episode, NOT counting any season-wide overhead.
People are streaming, but streaming isn't profitable. At least not the way 99% of idiot companies do it. Netflix managed to make money at it because only Netflix really understood the model, everybody else blindly copied them without comprehending how they were supposed to make money at it.
The all-you-can-eat subscription model is terrible for monetizing new content. Traditionally, all-you-can-eat subscription is for media at the tail end of its lifespan after the more profitable avenues of revenue have been used and is the equivalent of the bargain bin. The standard life of a media release typically looks something like this:
Theatrical Release -> Premium Cable -> Home Video -> Standard Cable -> Network TV -> Bargain Bin/All-You-Can-Eat
Releasing big, expensive new productions directly on streaming is the equivalent of releasing them straight into the bargain bin. Traditionally, all-you-can-eat subscriptions rely on providing a large number of cheap media at the end of their lifespan in order to eke out a profit at the low margins of the subscription.
Yup, they completely screwed themselves by jumping straight into streaming, and skipping all the steps where you can make money. Now the pandemic didn't help, so a lot of companies opted to dump their stuff on there, plus the death of physical media as well. But their choice to add streaming earlier in the chain also made physical media less necessary. So it was really self-inflicted. Now consumers are used to short wait times between theatrical release and streaming, so they'll say to themselves "I'll just wait for it to come to (insert streaming service here)."
Actually it went:
Theatrical --> Home Video/VOD --> Premium Cable --> Standard Cable --> Network TV
I probably sound crazy, and israeli, but streaming unironically should just be bargain bin shit. Like, you know those "free to watch" things that are officially on Youtube? That's what ALL streaming should be, if it wants to be profitable. Just bottom of the barrel content, with occasionally a gem sprinkled in there.
$20 a month for streaming is still crazy cheap, considering movies used to be $20 for a single DVD. The genie's out of the fricking bottle now, though. People aren't going to go back. The industry was racing to devalue itself.
>Just bottom of the barrel content, with occasionally a gem sprinkled in there.
the issue is that in this case then the gems can't be professionally-made, with actual sets and costumes, because the craftsmen and technicians required to do all that work will have had to retire and get jobs in the service industry. like, even the best Youtube skit isn't going to be as well-produced as The Last Of Us or Shogun.
No no no, I'm talking about stuff like this.
https://www.youtube.com/feed/storefront?bp=ogUCKAY%3D
What's the fricking first thing they offer you? Kangaroo Jack. Shyamalan's The Last Airbender. Oh, and I guess you get Forrest Gump, too. There's your "gem." This shit should be "standard" for streaming services, if they don't want to devalue their content. But the genie's out of the bottle. Been out of the bottle for 10 years.
Criterion, Acorn, Tubi, and Pluto are all versions of this model and it's hard to tell if they're doing well or not.
Tubi's basically doing about the same as Disney Plus is.
>Having niche BBC miniseries from 40 years ago in your catalog that can disappear at any given moment so you actually feel compelled to watch something
Tubi and Pluto are quite frankly based.
But they've already committed to making high-budget fancy shows and movies for streaming, and customers will expect that to continue. Think about how many people would be pissed off if Disney stopped releasing their latest $200 million animated movies on Disney+. The customer base would revolt. They've fricked themselves and there's no way out.
Yep. Like I said, the genie is out of the bottle. There was a point, MAYBE in 2010 or 2011, where if they just let streaming be this kind of place where your backwash went, with things advancing to where enthusiastic could spend $100 a month on like, the Criterion Collection, or something, that might've worked. Streaming movies, to be profitable, should consist of shit like Kangaroo Jack, a couple seasons of some old sitcom, and maybe one or two movies worth actually watching.
But the unfathomable thing is they were incredibly generous with streaming. They devalued their brands. And while that's great for you and me, it fricked over Hollywood. And well, honestly, good at this point, but I'm just pointing out how fricking crazy it was studios gave up their entire catalog for $100-$200 a year.
Part of the issue is Netflix cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Once upon a time there was two streaming sites: Netflix and Hulu.
Hulu was where you went to watch new shows in real time and Netflix was where you watched old movies and entire series of old shows and new shows, granted a year after they aired (whereas Hulu had them dropping regularly).
At first, Netflix had a decent size monopoly on content but then Amazon started up Prime and Hulu started going after classic/new shows and movies. Studios started divesting their content from Netflix and spread their content across multiple platforms, which fricked Netflix up.
Netflix, needing to stay relevant, stopped fighting to get exclusive rights to older shows and movies, allowing a good chunk of their library to lapse. Instead, they focused their money on two things:
1. Exclusive rights to new movies
2. Creating new exclusive content, shows and movies that could never be taken from Netflix because they owned them.
Netflix's success making movies and shows sparked other streaming sites to follow their lead, which was good at first but then fell apart because the new shows started to be dogshit and people instead just watched old shows and movies but especially old TV shows like Friends, Fraiser, Seinfeld, The Office, etc
yeah but the products they're putting out. i wouldn't spend a god damned dime on any of the bullshit that's come out in the last 10 years
You forgot ppv. I guess there’s digitial releases now but probably not nearly as profitable as pay per view was.
I don't know how Hollywood could come back from that. They opened up this big can of worms. Regular audiences now are way too comfortable tuning in on streaming platforms than the old ways of theatrical or home video distribution, and streaming platforms didn't make a ton of money like they should've been.
>Releasing big, expensive new productions directly on streaming is the equivalent of releasing them straight into the bargain bin.
They saw Netflix doing that, and copied them. Apparently nobody realized Netflix HAD to do this because they didn't own the rights to any of the content that made them rich, and all the owners of those lucrative IPs were not going to renew the license when they could just make their own streaming service. So if Netflix wanted to have any draw at all, it had to spend humongous piles of dough to make its own original content and pray to God some of it got popular.
Nobody else had to do this. People like Disney, NBC, etc, did not have to do this. They have TONS of content people already like, that have decades of built-in viewership. They could have operated streaming services with nothing but those reruns and maybe 1 or 2 originals per year and the service would've been profitable.
The shift to streaming and "more future profits" is also what prompted studios to somehow create more and more oversight/redundancy positions that they continue to throw their inflated budgets at. who needs a writer when you can have 9 diverse writers?
>they nuked the film industry for streaming services that don't even make money
When they openwd Disneyland in 1956, nothing worked.
These things, they take time.
the end of the article is perfect, it basically says 'either destroy the unions for better individual power or hope for govt intervention to break up the mega conglomerates, which is unlikely'
this article is 100% truth, I finally feel vindicated after seeing all this stuff happening and feeling like I was taking crazy pills during the 2010s I'm shocked no one else was noticing
Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
>Hindsight is 20/20 for a lot of normies, but us autists see this shit in real time
Why is this so true? I see shit coming 100 miles away, not only on Cinemaphile but irl, with family or friends. I try to warm them, but just constantly dismissed, even mocked, until it all comes true. Of course they never acknowledge that what I said would happen, happened. I feel like fricking Cassandra in those ancient myths. Some normie reactions to my prophecies:
>It couldn't happen here
>It couldn't happen to me
>I've never seen/heard it, so it must not be true
My dad finally admitted to me he should've listened, I literally predicted half of the shit that happened the last decade including the initial bear then bull crypto market and how also all these Democrats would frick us sideways with the runaway inflation from COVID. The fact it's finally catching up to normies now will make me seethe, this shit is basic accounting. All the rich from the tech sector and snake oil solar/electric vehicles are robbing the middle class and profiting it and stealing it away to California. Btw the average taxpayer subsidizes $48k/electric vehicle. Remind the EV homosexuals theyre polluting the earth and have to replace batteries every 5-7 years and will cost $10k.
Being ahead of your time is a curse.
You’d think the insight would be a blessing but it’s quite the opposite with no power
>I predicted the bear crypto market
I hope you have a billion dollars, otherwise you're a coward.
>when you're right but you're so repulsive no one wants to believe you
frick em.
At least your society don't believe in Santería/Macumba (Latin America's version of Voodoo). A boss fired me once because I "evil eyed her business" and I can't work in the farms of the region I was born because the feudal lord there said I was responsible for "casting an indio curse" against his property.
I always try to give examples and explain how A leads to B and C, but they just ignore it and say everything is going to be fine or get angry with me.
>Santería
Seems to me like a frick you to the Catholic Church rather than a serious cult.
You take that if you are borderline atheist or indifferent to the Church and propagandized instead of catechized as a youth.
It's more like natives from the Americans and slaves from Africa putting Christian make-up on their religions to avoid censorship and prosecution and/or mixing their costumes with those from the new settlers.
Maybe at some point in its origins but you have to analyze how it's taken as a cult and idea now so that you do not fall for a genetic fallacy then refuse to reason whatsoever.
>Doesn't know
Atheists are the midwits of the world. Or you're a devil worshipper. "Hell isn't real." Hahahahahahaha!!
Take your meds schizo. I'm a Christian with a good handle of metaphysical and arguments for the existence of God.
>Schizo
You're a Christian with very poor discernment if you think that Santeria is just a frick you to the church and not a living, breathing Satanic cult that frequently engages with real Satanic practices. See >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Mark_Kilroy
Santería/Macumba is being imported into the good ole USA as we speak.
because cartels find it funny
I dunno. There are a lot of AIgays on this site right now who very arrogantly think their job will NEVER be in danger, and they'll face zero consequences from this tech.
They will become ze robot and suck ze dick.
I feel like this too. Some people are just so obsessed with their own comfort they'll ignore anything that might disrupt it, even advice that would help in the future.
Because people still have lizard brains and think curses are real. People would rather beat the messenger and invoke religious thinking about "progress" than actually put any thougt or work into maintaining their current level of comfort.
>doesn't know about the Unseen realm
Filtered midwit
Holy shii this is based. Who is this guy? It's interesting that he described them as dead, because "philosophical zombies" is a more accepted term from academics who are describing what is essentially the NPC meme.
Are we us?
I've noticed that a lot of normies are afraid of independent thought/going against the grain and just memorize what an authority says. It doesn't become True until it's affirmed by something from above.
It's infuriating.
Oh yeah you people totally were warning about mega corporations and profit seeking and not crying about there being some non whites on screen
we keep saying that hollywood is in the worst state that its ever been and people are somehow still in denial of it. no, we aren't just "nostalgic" for the past, the industry is fricking garbage and is dying
Fact, and it's been happening for 50 years now.
The top of this image is literally every 30-40 female in my office
It's sickening
Frick vapes
No, it’s been happening since about 2007. Smart phones, writers strike, and social media all take huge chunks of the entertainment market simultaneously. A market that was already struggling with being divided between video games and broadcast/theaters.
Coffee sucks and Monster is good though
disgusting
>make movies with propaganda, homosexualry, white people bad, bad remakes, shit writing, garbage CGI despite 300 millions budget
>why are people not watching our shitty movies/tv shows
is really a mystery
of course is good for sugar addics
>55 grams (1.94 ounces ) of sugar
Monster >>> Coffee
Normies are cattle. They won't believe anything unless an "expert" validates what's right in front of them.
Movies are going the way of vaudeville and radio drama
I liked Halo Fallout Last of Us and Twisted Metal
>“There was this feeling,” the head of the midsize studio told me that day at Soho House, “during the last ten years or so, of, ‘Oh, we need to get more people of color in writers’ rooms.’” But what you get now, he said, is the black or Latino person who went to Harvard. “They’re getting the shot, but you don’t actually see a widening of the aperture to include people who grew up poor, maybe went to a state school or not even, and are just really talented. That has not happened at all.”
Fricking THANK YOU. The push for more diversity of skin color creates just that: a diversity of skin color. You aren't getting a different life background in the workplace, because everyone has the same fricking background: California. They all eat at the same shops, live within the same area, and speak the same way. They believe the same things and agree with each other on every topic. They are clones in all but appearance. And they want us to believe that it's their skin color that's important.
This is a core, fundamental belief of liberalism: that inside of every brown is a granola munching, NPR listening White liberal just waiting to be unlock by throwing lots of money at them.
It's like class is more important than race or gender? who knew?
Harvard MBAs and McKinley consultants caused both wokeness and the cost cutting. These people really need to be h*nged.
McKinsey consultants
>The streaming model was based on bringing in subscribers—grabbing as much of the market as possible—rather than on earning revenue from individual shows. And big swings brought in new viewers. “It’s like a whole world of intellectuals and artists got a multibillion-dollar grant from the tech world,” Smith said. “But we mistook that, and were frankly actively gaslit into thinking that that was because they cared about art.”
Here come da ads
>“I am not impressed,” the A-list writer told me in January. Entry-level TV staffing, where more and more writers are getting stuck, “is still a subsistence-level job,” he said. “It’s a job for rich kids.”
this explains a lot
>“is still a subsistence-level job,” he said. “It’s a job for rich kids.”
To be fair, art is like this since ever, but back then you had talented aristocrats or crazy poorgays producing stuff to get filtered by audiences, editors and critics.
>https://harpers.org/archive/2024/05/the-life-and-death-of-hollywood-daniel-bessner/
As for what types of TV and movies can get made by those who stick around, Kelvin Yu, creator and showrunner of the Disney+ series American Born Chinese, told me: “I think that there will be an industry move to the middle in terms of safer, four-quadrant TV.” (In L.A., a “four-quadrant” project is one that aims to appeal to all demographics.) “I think a lot of people,” he said, “who were disenfranchised or marginalized—their drink tickets are up.” Indeed, multiple writers and executives told me that following the strike, studio choices have skewed even more conservative than before. “It seems like buyers are much less adventurous,” one writer said. “Buyers are looking for Friends.”
There’s no reason to believe that this type of caution will pay off. The supposed sure shot of IP is currently misfiring: in 2023, Disney’s The Marvels fell more than $64 million short of breaking even, and its Indiana Jones sequel drastically underperformed. The Flash, for Warner Bros. Discovery, lost millions, and the company’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods flopped. (In the case of Barbie—the loudest exception—the writers, Greta Gerwig and Noah Baumbach, were given extraordinary free rein.) As Zack Stentz put it, “Hollywood is based on giving audiences what they might not know. Any attempt to drive risk out of that process is sooner or later doomed to failure.” His words played off an old adage by the screenwriter William Goldman. “Nobody knows anything,” he wrote. “Not one person in the entire motion picture field knows for certain what’s going to work.” But investments in the alchemy of the creative process do not perform well in quarterly reports.
The film and TV industry is now controlled by only four major companies, and it is shot through with incentives to devalue the actual production of film and television. What is to be done? The most direct solution would be government intervention. If it wanted to, a presidential administration could enforce existing antitrust law, break up the conglomerates, and begin to pull entertainment companies loose from asset-management firms. It could regulate the use of financial tools, as deWaard has suggested; it could rein in private equity. The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
Kill and ban ESG, DEI and affirmative action
>It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
This is exactly the reason everything is so bad right now you stupid c**t. Patronage systems ultimately become bureaucratic extractive entities that don't really create anything but exist to extract rents from tax payers.
Hollywood basically has 'universal income for writers' with the union forcing 20 people writers rooms even though 1-2 writers is nearly always better. Yellowjackets S1 was written by 2 people. It became a hit so FX forced a 26 person diverse writer team for S2 and the show completely fell apart and went to shit. Forced diversity and too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the broth.
Hollywood will eventually just outsource everything to third world countries.
They will outsource everything to AI. I personally think some of these shows like how I met your father have scripts written entirely by AI. There is no way actual humans are coming up with alot of this bullshit that Hollywood is pumping out recently
And those 26 people are all overeducated morons of the elite class. Hollywood has become cope for rich kids who got Ds in math.
Yellowjackets season 1 was Alive (1993) padded out with mystery boxes and bullshit.
And Yellowjackets S2 was ESG bullshit padded out with focus on new diverse viewpoints
It was ESG bullshit from the start, you goddamn woman. Gender-swapped movie from 1993.
> “I think that there will be an industry move to the middle in terms of safer, four-quadrant TV.” (In L.A., a “four-quadrant” project is one that aims to appeal to all demographics.)
> in 2023, Disney’s The Marvels fell more than $64 million short of breaking even, and its Indiana Jones sequel drastically underperformed. The Flash, for Warner Bros. Discovery, lost millions, and the company’s Shazam! Fury of the Gods flopped.
> The government could also increase competition directly by funding more public film and television. It could establish a universal basic income for artists and writers.
So, relentlessly spam woketarded shit at average Americans, they quite rightly reject this crap and the answer is to force them to pay Hollywood with their tax dollars?...
Yeah I love that angle.
“Corpo creates Zog slop - if the government were in charge we’d be making better zogslop I swear!”
The prisoners running the jail house isn’t the answer to a bad warden
Blame the bailouts in 2009. The bailouts incentivized this behavior. Every fricking corporation thinks it's too big to fail and that the government will bail it out with taxpayer money. They are acting like they are part of the state, and the scary part is that the government might see them that way as well. The US is/probably on the way to becoming no different than China.
Horseshit, they will 100% not back down on woke nonsense, and even if they do there is no longer a proper vetting process to ensure that screenwriters put in charge of huge projects have any talent. It's literally over, the emperor has no clothes.
Yeah they cannot fix this bullshit. The lame, stupid, low talent people have taken over the estate and you can't undo ideological capture that allows mediocre people to rise way beyond their stations. They will fight to the death to keep what they don't deserve.
>ideological capture that allows mediocre people to rise way beyond their stations
"Imposter Syndrome" meme in action.
When they say "conservative" they don't mean "non-woke" they mean "avoids risky projects and plays it safe". Depending who their demo is, this can mean more woke, not less. But from the sound of things, they are trying to broaden their demos rather than narrow them, which means dialing back the woke.
The truth is they don't know how to make Friends anymore, and I don't even like Friends. Grim.
Politics is the same way; only looking the short term to stay in power while completely neglecting the long term.
Democracy. Democratic politics stunts politics to 4 year cycles. No one thinks about 8 years or even 20 years down the line. Even worse is that since the 60s, politicians realized you could loot the treasury to buy votes, basically stealing from future generations for short term gain. None of these problems are new. We are just at the stage 3-4 cancer diagnosis of decline.
and yet any leader with a long term outlook is mocked endlessly. we saw that from the Tucker Carlson interview
We are simply in the looting stage of democracy. These problems are not confined to Hollywood. If America is an old estate house, then what has been happening is that the last family to live there sold all their silver and debt collectors are now stripping the walls of copper pipes. This is not really the consequence of Capitalism or "Wokenism"/communism but something even deeper. Call it civilizational malaise. Rome fell over two centuries. It will probably take 50 to destroy the post war western "democracy" model.
It’s truly fractal like - it permeates all things. As you say it’s deeper, it’s something at the very core of life itself.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK IT'S A FRICKING WALKING SKELETON OF COURSE NECROMANCY IS INVOLVED.
It could be a naturally produced animated skeleton
It might just be a non-animated skeleton somebody set up as a prank
The best descriptor of what's going on is "short termism". No one plans or even thinks about the future. People plan for the next year or so. The people who started building the Notre Dame knew that they wouldn't live to see the completion of their work, but they took comfort in the legacy they would leave for posterity. That project took 200 years to complete. Imagine anyone trying to implement a project lasting more than 5 years now. Imagine the US even trying to revive the Apollo program. It's structurally impossible because of election cycles.
No it’s bigger than just “muh democracy” which I do believe itself is a problem
It’s a much deeper thing which the failing democracy is a symptom of
Oracle, what doth thy mean? Thy speaketh in riddles.
Decline of Christianity, Globalism, no one has any vision for the future. No one feels connected to a particular ethos or demos. There is no shared vision of humanity. We are ruled by tiny men who hate greatness.
Decline of Christianity is a symptom of it
Remember WW1 and WW2 were fought by Christians
No it's mass democracy + the comfort afforded by technology allowing people to let their guards down. Good times creating weak men is fricking true.
Europe abandoned Christianity decades before the Us
It's more
>vision of the future
Christianity can at times be anti future, anti "why bother about the world that is, the world of god is what matters".
Like I mentioned a sec ago, the Brit parliament decided there was no reason to deal with climate change in their green deal because nobody paying for it would benefit for it in their lives. Reject a shitty green deal for being ineffective is fine, rejecting something because "I won't be alive to benefit" is horrid. Our leadership/managerial class either have no children or worse, are remarkably contemptuous and hateful of them. I have never seen the generational antipathy we have today where a generation actively wants things worse for the next. Not
>This up and coming generation is morally flawed and not as good as we are, we need to help correct them. "We're going to keep trying to strengthen the American family, to make them more like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons."
but rather
>This up and coming generation is morally flawed and not as good as we are, frick em, they deserve to suffer. I can't wait to laugh and mock them on facebook.
That kind of people in power, and that kind of people engendering that sentiment in any quislings who suck at their teat and inherit their roles, are not going to look kindly on their fellow citizens. Again, they're going to see them more like a colonial subject than a countryman/woman.
Right, it's that copypasta of pic related. Even if the precise details he offers are wrong, the general sentiment is correct. That's how it is now, and for many industries now you have to deal with wienersucking israelite or pajeet hustling grifters.
The regulators are just commie rent seekers. Corporations like regulations because regulations kill their competition. Communists and corporatists pat each other on the back.
>Christianity can at times be anti future, anti "why bother about the world that is, the world of god is what matters".
This is modernized, pozzed Christians who don't actually read the Bibles regularly, like they're supposed to. Ancient Christianity, you know the og belief system, used to really care about future generations.
>Reject a shitty green deal for being ineffective is fine, rejecting something because "I won't be alive to benefit" is horrid. Our leadership/managerial class either have no children or worse, are remarkably contemptuous and hateful of them.
This is exactly what my godless grandpa told my dad and his sisters when he got old. They're not even bad people lol, he was just really selfish. He used to beat my grandma and pay for hookers. He died without a will, just shitty probate where the state took most of the estate.
It's everywhere. And I don't think it's necessarily israelites or grifters, just that many people genuinely believe that they must do everything in their power to make things "safer" and "better" for everyone, and in the process make it all worthless. I'm at Uni and this kind of thing is everywhere. "To minimize suffering and to maximize security were natural and proper ends of society. But then they became the only ends, somehow, and the only basis of law–a perversion. Inevitably, then, in seeking only them, we found only their opposites: maximum suffering and minimum security."
Orson Welles has a nice little video on the increasing securitisation of society.
You can just say that society caters to women now.
or you could be like the other guy and have more than a sentence fragment to say about it
Safety = predictability
It's detrimental to the functioning of the machine of society to have unpredictable/unsafe elements. We've started to gear society towards serving itself as an independent godlike machine, and making the machine more efficient, rather than serving the interests of actual human beings.
bots all the way down
Ellul described them as "human techniques"
The book came out in 1954
this image feels fitting to match that video
It's mostly the woman faction doing that. 50% of the voting base are all pic related consensus voters and vote lockstep for total commie domination every time. Then you stack the easily baitable minority vote on top of that and it's impossible to stop the political slide into clown world.
We live in a c**tocracy because women were elevated too high for too long so they got everywhere in critical roles. Meanwhile all the traditional institutions for turning boys into men and men into gentlemen got gutted so Stacy could feel included and get Chad's wiener.
It's simply how humans are. Everything must pass away and die in time, we've just had a good run in the past odd century. There is no such thing as endless "progress", a thing is built, and it eventually collapses. The Greek demos collapsed, Rome collapsed into Feudalism, Feudalism collapsed into nation-states, the European consensus collapsed, etc. We just have the bad luck to be living in the decline of Western democracy. God was a dream of good government.
Except the future looks brown, ugly, and low IQ for at least the next few centuries. This is a sort of decline that will be hard to claw back from. The fundamental problem is that most people alive today should not exist and the only reason they do exist is because of scientific advancements made by Europeans in the 19th and 20th centuries.
What anime?
Royal Space Force.
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i think these terms can be reduced to their purest form which is laziness. lazy people who don't want to think into the future and calculate possibilities. lazy people who don't want to interview a lot of people until they find the right candidate for the job. lazy people who want to demand you watch their wokeslop instead of find a way to pique your interest.
it's nothing nefarious, just a chronic case of laziness across the entire western hemisphere
The majority are lazy and depend on the productive to survive. Democracy caters to the majority.
How does taint smells like?
It's this. The shortsighted, number-pumping business culture is everywhere--not just tv, not just media in general--everywhere. I don't want to call it a collapse, but some existing systems are definitely going to have to buckle and snap, and then people will build new ones.
I call it israelites.
Immediate gratification investors are pretty much a universal root of shitty homosexualry in our economies/societies. I was seeing red listening to a podcast about how smuckers is a family owned company with a seniority shareholder priority (longer you've been with them more your vote counts) and naturally some parasitic b***h screeched about how that was discriminatory to shareholders.
I can't say it over in /k/ or I get pillored but I see very alarming parallels in Russia with the US. That is to say some of the same systemic rot over there (Rampant corruption, nepotism, keep your head down and don't rock the boat) is slowly, or not so slowly, percolating up and up. Institutional lethargy. Hell, I just saw NPR canned the guy who worked there and called them out publicly for being too partisan and one of the complaints was he didn't do it through private channels but instead took them to task in public. Which is peak institutional rot - caring more about keeping things in house and not embarrassing the institution.
When the UK had some parliamentary research of a green new deal, they declared that it was not fair to burden taxpayers with something they would not be alive to benefit from. Now a green new deal is moronic and it's fine to decline it, but to literally say the antithesis of "great men plant trees they'll never sit in the shade of" was starkly illuminating. Literally
>Only a fricking rube idiot is going to plant a tree he won't sit in the shade of
>smart person invents company, invests money well, treats employees ok, uses technology to increase productivity
>one generation later gets gutted by shitty kids, shareholders, or private equity
A tale as old as time. The big problem now is that you can't fricking create a business the ethical way anymore because the entry is gatekept by regulators, lobbyists and lawyers. You basically need to act like an underhanded israelite to get anything done.
the problem is that the republic was couped through legislation attempting to turn the usa into a democracy. democracy isn't freedom, it's totalitarian rule that naturally leads to autocracy. the usa can be fixed with mass deportations and relocations and by repealing the 14th, 17th and 19th amendments
It's shocking how many Americans don't even know that we live in a constitutional republic that is slowly being transformed into a democracy.
You’re idiots. It can be a democracy and Constitutional Republic at the same time. They aren’t like strategy game focuses where you choose one or the other.
>This is not really the consequence of Capitalism or "Wokenism"/communism but something even deeper. Call it civilizational malaise.
While I agree with your point, it shouldn't be ignored that woke capitalism is the vehicle by which this malaise is occurring.
A bulk of the issue is caused by leftist ideologues.
just remember to set aside 10% for the big guy as you loot.
>Our passengers demand oru ship sails faster!
>I know, lets sell parts of our hull in the next port for more fuel!
>WTF Why is the ship sinking?!
>In late 2008, the Fed reduced the interest rate to almost zero. With piles of cash and cheap credit in hand, asset-management companies and private-equity firms set out for the frontiers of various U.S. industries. Over the next decade, three asset-management companies—BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street—would take over American business, becoming the largest shareholders of 88 percent of the S&P 500, the roughly five hundred biggest public U.S. companies. Private-equity firms—distinguished by their intent to sell the properties they acquire—would eventually be the backing for at least 7 percent of American jobs.
>To these speculators, Hollywood looked like a gold mine: the studios and entertainment corporations were ripe with redundancies and inefficiencies to be axed—costs to be cut, parts to be sold, profits to be diverted to shareholders, executives, and new, often unrelated ventures. And thanks to the deregulation of the preceding decades, the industry was wide open. Financial institutions could snatch up or take over large portions of companies in any area of the business; they could even acquire or substantially invest in groups in competition with one another—and they did, creating types of soft monopoly.
>Bets were even placed against the traditional industry as a whole, in the form of investments in Netflix, which promised to disrupt and dominate at-home viewing. Today the Big Three asset-management firms hold the largest stakes in most rival companies in media and entertainment. As of the end of last year, Vanguard, for example, owned the largest stake in Disney, Netflix, Comcast, Apple, and Warner Bros. Discovery. It holds a substantial share of Amazon and Paramount Global. By 2010, private-equity companies had acquired MGM, Miramax, and AMC Theatres, and had scooped up portions of Hulu and DreamWorks. Private equity now has its hands in Univision, Lionsgate, Skydance, and more.
>mith now knows that Dickinson was the company’s most-watched show in its second and third seasons. But at the time, she had no access to concrete information about its performance. As was the habit among streamers, Apple didn’t share viewership data with its writers. And without that data, Smith had no leverage. In 2020, after three seasons, she told Apple that she was done. “I said, I can’t do it anymore. And Apple said, Okay.”
Amerimutts need to legislate to prevent this asap
Not only will it benefit writers, it will also make it impossible for companies to pretend "WOKESLOP 5000 was the most watched streaming show (on a Wednesday night)!"
Now we will know how much of a failure the star wars shows and Amazon's LOTR were
It's a crazy story about that Dickinson writer. They were so starry eyed and hopeful. A tale straight out of Mulholland Drive. They went to LA and became a writer for Apple, who showed her that on the inside all these companies are just rotten con artists with a woke mask to avoid all criticism.
Good riddance.
Good. Frick em.
This midwit sharticle is being shared everywhere, and the grand conclusion at the end is that they need governments to intervene and give UBI to writers (unironically).
There's been a lot of desperate screeching in the trades lately because the writer's strike completely backfired on the diversity hire homosexuals who championed it. Now the cost-cutting has begun with these worthless idiots first on the chopping block and their last gasp is to claim that the Hollywood sky is falling, but really it's just that the cancer is being removed. This is what the beginning of New Hollywood II looks like.
Lmao, bruh, “new_Hollywood_2.exe” will be installed and ran locally on your midrange computer inside this decade. The idea a new studio system is going to form is just stupid.
The true Hollywood 2.0 will be the platform of control over who gets to distribute and which content gets boosted
How you gonna do that when the only thing people will need to distribute is prompts and seeds?
By hoping individuals will be greedy enough to gatekeep through private trackers, which secures their revenue pool.
It's the same in every publicly traded company pretty much. Short term thinking has been the dominant mode since 2008. Nobody makes long-term investments anymore. It's why you don't see any new mega corporations anymore. The kind of companies that Google, Amazon, etc used to be don't get founded now. Only "Unicorn startups" that are in it to make a quick buck with their IPO and then all the original founders cash out. There will never be another Jeff Bezoes who runs his company at a loss for 20 years with near-worthless stock only for it to steadily gain value as he plows whatever revenue he makes back into his business. That kind of thinking is utter madness nowadays, nobody could get away with it.
That shit happens all the time in privately traded companies.
Only if you have real shitheads as shareholders. With privately traded companies you have some amount of control over who becomes a shareholder, you can gatekeep, hopefully, unless the shitheads are part of the founders. With a publicly traded company you can't keep the shitheads from buying their way onto the board. In fact it's all but guaranteed to happen.
>Trillions of National Debt
>Bank bailouts
>Corporate subsidies
>Welfare
>Social housing
>Interventionism
>Stock buybacks
>Fiat currency
>Quantitative Easing
>Central banking
>Too big to fail
>World Bank
>International Monetary Fund
There is not going to be a 'based' Hollywood 2.0, lol. These companies are not subject to supply and demand.
> These companies are not subject to supply and demand.
Bingo
And the only way you get in that club is by waving the flag on ZOG
>These companies are not subject to supply and demand.
Correct, but all the things you listed are everywhere today. So instead of an economic correction and the market killing a bad business, we'll probably have a full collapse of the whole system.
It's takes generations to see the destruction caused by certain policy choices. Things don't change immediately.
And yet every western state entered the same phase at the same time
Even Black folk are starting to admit that that massive PPP fraud committed by Blacks didn't help them at all. It all got spent on dumb consooomer slop.
Based Black person facing reality
Every time I see something like this it comes just in time to keep me from falling into total and genuine racism instead of mild bantz
Honestly I hope they never correct. It has been hell for people who want to enjoy entertainment products but it has been really good for waking people up to who is fricking everything up.
>a scholar of the political economy of media
>It centers an unapologetic, queer female lead
>In Apple TV+’s initial smattering of shows,” wrote the Washington Post, “only ‘Dickinson’ is a delicious surprise.” It received a 2019 Peabody Award; in 2021 it made the New York Times’ list of best programs of the year and won a Rotten Tomatoes prize for Fan Favorite TV Series.
Was it good or it was fact-checker and paid review articles "good"?
It doesn't matter if it's 'good' (it's not), no one is paying money to watch lesbian shows. But they will keep making them because if not then drumpf will win. Right now when I open up Amazon Prime, there's an ad for a period piece show with Juilianne Moore and two men kissing. NO ONE wants to see that shit, and god knows how much money has been wasted trying to force it down everyone's throats.
>Right now when I open up Amazon Prime
>THERE ARE PROBLEMS...
I have no problems on my streaming platform.
I just write the show I want to download and it gives me a lot of sources of IPs that share fragments of that show.
I sometimes have to write -2160 or -720 or even web or hevc|265 if I'm certain the streaming platforms offer a good encoding but that's about it.
I can stream it as well if I download in sequential ordering.
My streaming platform is called torrenting and it includes the content of every single other one in existence.
The content you download comes from streaming services and its all terrible, that's the point.
Yea 95% of it is garbage. But I tend to now download it at all because I can just search Cinemaphile archives or even ask a LLM like Claude to summarize it for me if it's old enough and in its training data as it used Cinemaphile archives for that.
Sometimes even Californian woke writers can write a good script, eg. Arcane was a nice thing. Sure the magic of it is thanks to the storyboard artists and so on which enriched it. Also animators took a lot of freedom with the script giving it a more organic experience, the animators who had all the time in world and were paid well and were took care of during dead-time with meaningful jobs by Riot Games.
This is rare anyway but I'm thankful for the product.
>no one is paying money to watch lesbian shows
I am. When they're cute.
Oh yeah, all those poor people who can afford to subsidize the existence of a stable of politicians.
Truth is that AIPAC just needs a few rich israelites to help them out, doesn't need countless tiny donations.
And given how election cycles in US go more expensive by each cycle it's basically guaranteed that their agenda will be as good as as guaranteed by Constitution without that being the case formally.
The rich politicians bribe those dumb poor people with other peoples' money in exchange for votes.
They aren’t going to give your taxes back.
I know, it's rank theft and corruption. The American revolution was spurred on by less offensive molestations of the soul.
You mean like the rich having all the power? And by “rich,” I don’t mean politicians who are in the pocket of banks, corporations, billionaires
The taxes I pay don't go to me. Those rich people use my taxes to bribe turd world dictators and pay for Black person upkeep. It's ok to hate both the rich and the poor because they are both scum.
You don’t know what any of those words mean.
You are projecting, communist scum
Contrary to what you believe, votes do matter, and if you don't keep the voting cattle pacified they will vote you out of office. Fortunately it's extremely easy to win over vast swathes of the electorate with very little effort. Just look at the black vote. Democrats don't even bother to pander to them and they have the black vote locked up.
How do votes matter if every politician on the ballet is owned by corporate interest?
It doesn't matter to you, the voter, but it matters to the politicians a lot. They very much want to be in power, they wouldn't have bothered running for office if they didn't because campaigning is a giant hassle, not to mention very expensive, especially if you lose your election.
Once in power it's very easy to abuse your position to become extremely wealthy, which is why career politicians are a thing. They will continually run for the highest office they are eligible for. This desire to remain in office causes them to react to shifts in voter opinion, often to overreact, if they think it might jeopardize their reelection. How much the politician responds to voter sentiment shows you how volatile the political situation is. The less a politician seems to care about anger from his constituents, the more he has captured and locked down votes through single issue voters or else racial voting blocs like the blacks.
>votes don’t matter if all the politicians on the ticket are part of the corporate uniparty
Yeah, that’s what I said
If we just get the rich to pay their fair share it'll solve the problem
This is when I knew Hollywood was dead and that there's no going back
I don't care if the industry burns. There are so many shows and movies I've never seen that it will last me my lifetime.
>Hollywood - The new effective bosses of the industry—colossal conglomerates, asset-management companies, and private-equity firms—had not been simply pushing workers too hard and grabbing more than their fair share of the profits. They had been stripping value from the production system like copper pipes from a house—threatening the sustainability of the studios themselves.
Gordon Gekko.
>Profit will of course find a way; there will always be shit to watch. But without radical intervention, whether by the government or the workers, the industry will become unrecognizable.
Please don't.
I'd rather the government finance traditional publishing avenues. Books have more depth and are cheaper to produce.
>expecting le government to fix anything
homie they are $35 trillion in debt
That's a write-off.
That's why they're letting inflation run hot. When money isn't valuable anymore, your debts don't exist so much.
*don't cost so much
It’s too late anyway. Americans are in Black person nation tier debt to the debt interest they can longer afford to pay. That's what every globalist bag of shit politician has been doing since the 1960-1970s.
>1971 end of Bretton Woods agreements
Would be a much better marker on this chart
How about this?
Ending Bretton Woods decoupled wages from productivity.
Are you the guy who recc'd "a history of central banking, and the enslavement off mankind" in the culture of conspiracy thread?
It also means that your savings becomes worthless.
There's a lot of boomers who spent their entire lives paying into saving accounts, 401k, anything represented in cash and just had a big fat slab of over 10% of the total effective value just disappeared into the magic that is inflation printing which eviscerated their ability to retire.
Not that I care about boomers in the slightest, but it killed any notion that you should save for the future. Either keep your wealth in physical objects to hand that bag off to somebody else or don't keep it at all. This means that a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck and could not handle a cash based emergency, which also makes them more likely dependent of the government for gibs, which also drives up costs because the government sucks donkey dick at spending money efficiently.
It's getting really cutthroat out there and harder to go to the grocery store and not spend hundreds on a single trip.
That's why you keep your savings in the form of art and israeliteelry and gold and other things that increase in value with inflation instead of deprecating.
This is why the Biden shills who say "b-but real wages have caught up with inflation" are full of shit. No shit interest rates and wages are up, but inflation didn't effect everyone equally and the opportunity cost between the inflationary period and the "recovery" is a massive opportunity cost.
*and the opportunity cost between the inflationary period and the "recovery" is a massive burden
The "flight from money" is one of the telltale signs of hyperinflation starting. People divest themselves of cash as soon as they get it, because anything they want to buy is only going to go up in price in the near future, so it's better to buy now than to wait and have your cash lose value.
For the wealthy, this means buying up properties. For poors, it means stocking up on staples that last a long time.
>telltale signs of hyperinflation starting
Is there a limit? Is there a due date?
Depends on whether the debt is sovereign or not. Japan has a lot of debt but they mostly owe it to themselves so they could nationalize the debt and screw over all the boomers who bought bonds. The US uses debt to establish dollar as a reserve currency. 30% of US debt is foreign owned. We could potentially never service those loans but then no one would want to buy our debt and the dollar would lose reserve currency status.
Let me SPRINT to go pay that
Dont worry about debt.
They can just print more money to pay it off.
>le
>random tangent
what the frick is your post about?
also learn what debt to gdp ratio is and what inflation does to debt
Gordon Gekkosteinberg
Wokeness is an intrinsic part of this asset stripping strategy and the "socialists" don't even realize it.
lol when boomers were young the movie industry was like this
>vague conversation about a movie idea
>let's shake hands we'll pay you multiple times the average household income just for this beta script
exactly like in the memes posted around Cinemaphile lol
you only got treated like that after already having hits, and today you can still get that in exchange for slumming it and making something for a pre-existing IP.
the article didn't say that, it said that newcomers had opportunities like that
does it give examples from before the streaming goldrush era? Speilburg didn't just walk into Jaws.
I think the article is full of shit. It feel;s like it was written by a sperg and it's full of factual errors and appeals to authorities that he probably didn't even read, just got info from news articles that mentioned those.
Disregard what I said it's probably moronation and confusion on the writer's part, he probably saw those boomer memes and re-wrote history in his head by way of 1 2 misunderstood anecdotes.
I've read the article, and basically the numbers it provides as the "golden age" still aren't really that great.
e.g. $90k (in todays money) for working on a premium cable show for 5 months only seems good if you ignore that today you need a six-figure income to pay the mortgage on a suburban house in California.
other stuff, like writers in the 90s getting paid big bux for spec scripts, fails to mention that the big numbers would include rewrites and a bonus if the script got produced, which it might not be for fricking years if at all (e.g. the Game, by Fincher, sold in '91 but wasn't released until '97). so the writer would be expected to live on a subsection of the money from a sale and get other writing work on the strength of it, often while rewriting their original script in ways that made it worse.
That's the risk you take when everyone rents or gets credit to buy a home in a pyramid scheme of house prices and retirement fund requirements. All you can pray for is inflation to clear your credit away faster but them the pyramid scheme becomes worse.
>The truth was that the forces that had opened doors for Smith were the same ones that had made her individual work seem not to matter. They were the same forces that had been degrading writers’ working lives for some time, and they were cannibalizing the business of Hollywood itself.
WokeBlack folk getting hoisted by their own petard.
>When the strike was over, it was February 2008. The United States was three months into what would later be understood as the Great Recession. In an effort to stimulate the economy, the Federal Reserve had begun cutting interest rates in September, and over the following eighteen months it provided financial institutions with more than $7.7 trillion in capital.
This is such a moronic mistake, could've at least googled since it sounds ridiculous even on paper.
I doubt the utility of this article and the intelligence level of the writer.
7.7 trillions were promised as a ceiling but MUUUUUUCH less was given out, for a short time then suddenly stopped, also all of it was paid out at a slightly larger nominal value than when borrowed but when adjusting for inflation at a slight loss for the US government, alas, the writer is moronic.
Didn't read. Is it still the Qui's fault?
I thought Disney's plan was to eat losses now and profit decades later, by repelling adults and converting children
history repeats itself
That movie should be required watching for everyone on Cinemaphile.
There are no Russians, there are no Arabs, there is no West! There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast, and immense, interwoven, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.
the current incarnation of hollywood should die, and then a better one may rise like a phoenix
The real kicker to me is that they are so fricked up they can't even do proper re-releases of old stuff anymore without royally fricking them up by doing stupid shit like cropping 4:3 TV shows to 16:9, smudging the picture with horrendous grain removal filters and of course turning everything BLUE. The amount of aggressive incompetence needed to frick up an already finished product through such braindead meddling says it all. They are doomed.
The future of entertainment belongs to the Asians.
This does nothing to explain hiring people who make a bunch of stupid decisions and waste a lot of money just to put out something that customers hate. Oftentimes, these people have a proven track record of failure. Doesn't seem to me like Hollywood was very concerned with profits at all.
Don't let the media memory hole the role of Marxist subversion in destroying western entertainment. Customer revenue is not some mystic entity that appears from out of the aether. Customers spend money to see content that they enjoy. That requires having a meritocracy where people are hired and given work based on skill and performance, not whether they check a box or know the right people. The destruction of meritocracy is also expensive in terms of the cost of laziness, drama, and fixing mistakes. None of this does anything to help quarterly profits.
some of the issue is that these woke leftist liberal writers are all thats graduating from colleges nowadays
2/3rds women, half non-white, thats modern college grads
And its a subscription, so they have to keep producing this high budget content to keep people around
How many subscribers do you gain and keep for spending 500 million on a a single season ??
Women are attending college more than men, and they’re far more susceptible to brainwashing
It can be summed up as Hollywood putting the cart before the horse, assuming that they could dictate what the audience would like, instead of playing to their audience's taste. This is partly due to the arrogance of Hollywood's elite. They had a long run of very popular movies, of growing revenues, of outrageously popular celebrity movie stars capturing the public imagination. At some point, they forgot that none of that is guaranteed to them. The public doesn't owe them money, or even its attention.
This was likely exacerbated by what this article talks about, the wave of financiers entering showbiz without any understanding of how it works, their blind idiot money incentivizing the wrong kind of projects.
This. It seems like a lot of wealthy liberal boomers/gen-xers think this gender revolution BLM shit is the inevitable future since they grew up with the success of 60s civil rights. They buy into the progressive view of things.
It's mostly zoomer males who seem to intimately understand what a massive joke it is even if they're otherwise fairly liberal (broadly speaking).
>They buy into the progressive view of things.
In a way, the progressive view is self-defeating. Confidence in progress becomes blind faith in the inevitability of progress. Being confident in progress gives you the courage to try new things after weighing the risks, but belief in the inevitability of progress makes people blind to the risks they are taking.
This. The belief in the idea of progress as some intangible process that cannot be exploited or controlled is used maliciously against normies by bad actors who want to control people. If you frame any idea as "progress" you can get away with blatant abuse. Nothing typifies this more than the troon menace.
>we finally got diversity in the writers room
>the writer doesnt matter anymore and is disposable and makes shit money
top kek
I was reading an article where (paraphrasing) justine bateman said the orders from above said to not have complicated storylines so people wouldn't be confused when they'd look up from their second screens.
It has happened before, it will happen again. Picrelated is about the 19th century before the world wars. Religious belief comes all too easily to us humans, and it blinds us to the troubles that loom on the horizon. The same is happening in Hollywood as is happening all over the world. "Things are good now, why should I worry about later? Money is everything. My faith in (Hollywood, progressivism, money, etc.) will save me, because it is good and hasn't failed me before."
they are making exactly what you all actually watch. what people have found out is that what people say they want and what they actually watch is totally opposing. kind of like women liking 'nice guys'. film/tv viewers want trash, and they want to complain about trash, but they don't actually know what the frick they really want.
>there is no secret world of good hollywood that makes what you dumb fricks think it should.
they are making expanded universes and franchises out of pre existing IP, they want to take any actual risk out of the equation
hollywood once valued originality, now its monopolized trash
The people at the top are not "woke". Pic related was from 2015. Wokeness was a cloak to shield themselves from criticism, make their dumb employees happy (trading material gains for spiritual gains), and a way to shill for the Clinton wing of the Democrats.
They may not be woke themselves, but they are absolutely held hostage by it now. Speaking against the Consensus is a good way to end your career.
Go back to plebbit, proggy
Left ist take. Instantly discarded.
funny enough Obama did produce a movie that's message is "there is no one pulling the strings, just chaos"
That is pretty old now. Many of the top executives all have gay or trans kids. So they are very keen on pushing them in media now.
I will never understand how an idiot like Amy Pascal came to run Sony pictures. Reading those e-mails was like reading some catty high school girl’s text messages
This leads credence to the idea that no one in charge knows what they're doing.
At least with some people in charge, they have knowledge and experience that can help guide their decision making. They may make what prove to be the wrong decisions but they are at least based on some rationale. Pascal just seemed like some woman grabbed off the street to run a movie studio.
I don't think it's entirely cynical, either. If you actually look at the elite institutions they're all drinking the kool-aid. It's basically the end of a feedback loop of people taking enlightenment ideals out of context then pushing them to illogical conclusions. They're working within the framework they were given and are trying to one up their predecessors; now we're at the point of absurdity.
Going outside of a framework is like changing operating systems; it isn't easy and it's unlikely that a person would be willing to burn everything they think they know about the world.
It's painful to watch.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/yale-skull-and-bones-secret-societies-diversity/677030/
The inmates run the asylum.
Skull and bones is pozzed af. Its woke dei shit in there
I would unironically prefer ruthless pragmatists to the loony troon clownshow. The best would be pragmatic idealists in power; the absolute worst is narcissistic "idealists"; ruthless pragmatists are in the middle.
pic related isn't just affecting the plebs
> Andrew deWaard - Assistant Professor of Media and Popular Culture at UCSD
Please clap.
The Democrat run/Neocon appendix uni-party still needs votes to legitimize their rule.
As opposed to legitimacy through what? The /misc/gay congress?
before this thread is archived, this is probably the best thread on Cinemaphile in years. someone back it up somewhere
4plebs is a thing you know.
>the best thread on Cinemaphile in years
That would be /jazz/.
Streaming services like Disney+ and Paramount+ ignored the treasure chests they were sitting on and instead dumped all of their money into new content that ended up being pretty bad. If Disney+ had just been all of their old movies, documentaries about how those movies were made, interviews with directors and animators, animated shorts, the stuff that was deep in their vault, etc. people would have been satisfied.
>this whole thread
So...are we on the edge of the 6th Collapse?
for now is a controlled demolition
The liberal post world order cannot ensure for much longer. Groids, wetbacks and jeets are abusing asylum rules that were set up for israelites fleeing the Holocaust. Even Canadian liberals are mad.
Yep. I wonder how many European kids are coming home from school to their dumb shitlib parents covered in bruises from the muslims beating the shit out of them. At some point they'll have to admit some mistakes were made.
If the parents can't stop huffing their own farts, at least the kids are going to understand how bad their parents fricked them.
What if that doesn’t happen?
End of Bretton Woods -> depressed dollar -> money is cheap -> artificially low interest rates -> riskier investments -> globalization -> short termism
These issues are not intractable. The government could reign in inflation but that would mean cucking the rich, outsourcing rentier class that they belong to.
reading this thread makes /tv look like geniuses
That's unironically what's so great about Cinemaphile. You can have a great informed thread on the dumbest angriest boards
Cinemaphile is the only site that offers true dialectics to flourish. Reddit is antithetical to challenging ideas, it simply forces compliance and mandates the group accepted opinion.
You morons didn't realize it, but after 20 years the Cinemaphile format created the most perfect reasoning forum in human history. By simply coming here debating sweatily for hours over the most trivial nonsense, you've been exercising your logic and reasoning skills. While other sites were trying to gather as many users by running down the platform and being as inclusive as possible, Cinemaphile has been gatekeeping.
And this created an evolutionary pressure to produce only the most enlightened posters.
Plato would be proud of you homosexuals
Lmfao the worst mistake a Cinemaphile poster can make is self-aggrandizing themselves for posting here and aggrandizing Cinemaphile for anything more than it actually is.
Cinemaphile is the island from LOST
No, I will not elaborate
>Cinemaphile is the island from LOST
Lmao sounds about right
Cinemaphile are medichlorians
My enlightened brother we are done with the age of self depreciation. From now on Cinemaphile is the site of patricians, enlightened gentlemen, true euphoric kings.
Cinemaphile is just another analytics and profit driven website where it's users are the products to be given to advertisers.
It's anonymity, low barrier to entry, and accessibility are all just part of the perception that it's not evolved into the mass it's taken on today and to mimick the ideology that it could be some 3rd space on the internet. Which the lack there of is the biggest problem with the digitalized space we occupy and the world we live in.
The problem is those same things are the exact driving force behind its decline. The advertisers blur the line between the user discussing something and actual shilling campaigns.
Then you've got the schizo with the megaphone equivalent in the park shouting the world is going to end, but he can run an endless robotic army of posters each with their own megaphone drowning out any other rhetoric or discussion.
There is nothing more enlightened here or greater than any websites controversial section, nor that much more different than the wild wasteland X has allowed to become.
It's just more of the same the only difference is you prefer how it's structured.
Nice.
Your post surely won't anger or irritate the paid Ivanshills whatsoever.
This. Any website where you can get banned for typing "Black person" is not free from the tentacles of advertisers.
I thought the whole point of that was due to the constant spam of said word all over this website by /b/tards and stormgays?
No it's because Hiro tried to make blueboards more appealing to advertisers.
It's to scare kids and make them behave, you could get banned for writing Black person randomly even in 2008 and it never stopped being a rule breaking thing.
What is this chatGPT drivel?
Complete non sequitur babbling.
Or then people really lack basic literacy.
Found the paid shill trying to accuse other posters of being bots.
At least vary your scripts jesus chirst.
Your input in the thread has ironically only been trying to devalue any discussion here.
Why do you even post here, even effortpost, if the discussion is so meaningless and shit here?
I'm pretty sure it's this guy
I've seen him in multiple threads pulling the "everyone who disagrees with the clinton democratic machine is a russian shill" routine. Always uses the "okay, Ivan" line. He's either a shill himself or just some moron/troll. Ignore him.
Yeh, it is pretty obvious
1. make an efforpost saying how efforposting here is pointless
2. pre-emptively samegay trying to cover being called out for bullshit
Yeah the shill doesn't even try to argue. It just accuses posters of being bots.
>Muh literacy
Found the deflecting NPC
>schizophrenic post
>Cinemaphile doesn't even analytical js of its own or third party
>ads are just randomized from a list in a database as well
meds
Someones mentally stuck in 2009
The biggest red pill of the modern world as a human being is to adjust yourself to quarterly goals and a quarterly lifestyle.
Have a day equivalent to a birthday in every quarter. At the end of every quarter treat it like a new year a new you. Didn't meet quarterly expectations last time? New season, new quarter, and time to earn.
Everybody is so caught up in long term goals, living year to year as life passes the by but bam 70? Just quadrupled your life to 280 with this simple trick.
>Mainstream reporters finally realize what everyone's been saying for the last decade and a half.