The franchise, before or since, will never be as good as Dalton's two movies. They had a real artistic integrity that none of these movies ever tried to match. They had grit, heart, fun, humour, drama, violence, real world debacles and an unbeatable SOVL permeating through it all. Although, I'll concede that GoldenEye would have close to as good if they had kept M a man and fixed the third act.
I think even if they had kept Dalton as Bond and M as a man, Goldeneye is just going to drastically different because the Soviet Union had collapse AND UK was going through an economic depression.
TND is where they fix the wrongs of GoldenEye massively. M is still a woman unfortunately but she drops the feminist dyke shit and actively encourages Bond to frick Paris, Moneypenny is not some liberated woman but still obsessed with James, the plot is fast and snappy and not too out there and relates to the world at the time. It's easily his best movie although I loved Xenya, Alec and Natalya. Great characters in a movie that is proving to be a bit subpar in re-evaluation. I still wish Cubby had layed off and promised Timothy one at a time and we'd have gotten him back in GoldenEye.
They tried to go for something deep and less action-oriented with The World Is Not Enough, but it just falls flat...
It's not too different from Moore trying to be more serious in "For Your Eyes Only" but it doesn't really work because Moore is at his best when he's funny and charming, the actors should play to their strengths instead of trying to be someone they're not.
And let's not get started on the second worst movie in the entire franchise Die Another Day (the absolute worst is Diamonds Are Forever).
So yeah Brosnan's movies were pretty mediocre overall, but TND is him at his best.
He will forever be known as the "video game" Bond with lots of action and explosions, and TND captures that essence.
They tried to go for something deep and less action-oriented with The World Is Not Enough, but it just falls flat...
Pierce and Marceau had electric chemistry and she was a knockout but you are right. I never minded Denise Richards because the worst crime is them wasting Robert Carlyle and making him into a cuck servant of Elektra. >It's not too different from Moore trying to be more serious in "For Your Eyes Only" but it doesn't really work because Moore is at his best when he's funny and charming, the actors should play to their strengths instead of trying to be someone they're not.
For Your Eyes Only is a Dalton movie. Moore should have left after Moonraker gracefully. If Dalton had been established as the 80's Bond he'd be revered as the greatest James Bond especially now with the 80's fetishism nostalgia. He would have elevated those movies by virtue of his involvement. >And let's not get started on the second worst movie in the entire franchise Die Another Day (the absolute worst is Diamonds Are Forever).
I think they're low points but the worst has to be No Time To Die by virtue of it being malicious and subversive garbage. >He will forever be known as the "video game" Bond with lots of action and explosions, and TND captures that essence.
For sure, his Bond worked best in that medium. Nightfire/EON are absolute belters.
GoldenEye is severely overrated. The plot takes ONE HOUR AND 10 MINUTES TO START and then they get to Russia and then to Cuba and movie is over. The pacing is completely off-kilter. Same thing with Goldfinger.
True. While I am not a gay who thinks the womanizing should be cut, a real romance and love story is always pleasing and adds integrity to the narrative though I fail to see how TND has that.
people were still used to roger moore's comedic take, it took a while before audiences warmed up to a gritty, edgy bond (daniel craig) but dalton did it first.
They tried it again and it was like watching Barney compared to the integrity, hard-edge and pure kino that Dalton was. His movies are laced with this very lame and gay undertone of subversion. Dalton's Bond is pure cinema. For me, Bond ended with Dalton and these two are the only real James Bonds, with all due respect to Sir Roger who I love.
Your assesment of LTK is way off. Yes, it has those elements and they have some scenes that are of the time but LTK is if Ian Fleming lived to the 80's and wrote a Bond adventure with Colombian drug lords and the cocaine wars. It's beautifully written. Fleming always liked putting Bond in different locales and settings and styles. You wouldn't call YOLT a Samurai movie, would you? Plus, come on. Franz Sanchez was kino as frick.
Licence to Kill is a more exciting action movie but TLD is a better Bond movie. Dalton's performance and Q showing up and stealing the show in LTK are the only things that made it feel like a Bond movie at all.
TLD is not a better Bond film. The opaque potboiler storyline is dull and not engaging. The villains are weak. The Bond girl dresses like a mormon and never shows any skin. The Afghanistan scenes SUCK ASS.
Meanwhile, LTK is set in beautiful locations in South America, has a very memorable villain, with Benecio del Toro as his henchman, and Wayne Newton as his stooge. It absolutely feels like a Bond film, mixed with things from Ian Fleming's novels. Franz Sanchez is not the first drug lord Bond has gone after, neither in the books or the films. Anyone who says it "doesn't feel like a Bond film" read some stupid review that whined about this shit before watching
It's an old dumb moron argument. There's Q, there's gadgets, there's sexy girls in sexy outfits, he has two squeezes instead of being monogamous Bond in TLD because Cubby Broccoli was scandalized by the AIDS outbreak. It's as Bond as anything ever fricking Bond'ed
I remember making that image, nice that you saved it because I lost it. Anyhow, you're correct on all points. The spy thriller approach was completely abandoned by the Afghanistan segment. The whole plot also is really nonsensical and unevenly written. Dalton salvaged it but LTK is his magnum opus. It's a movie in the Bond canon that if you love, you think it's the best ever made which it is. If someone hates it, they are filtered. >It's as Bond as anything ever fricking Bond'ed.
Great line.
Frick off Dalton gays. Le close to the books. No he wasn’t. Craig is actually closer to the books. Total emotional b***h falls in love with every woman he meets. This movie was 80s political correct and AIDS era ass. Bond doesn’t even frick anyone.
The franchise, before or since, will never be as good as Dalton's two movies. They had a real artistic integrity that none of these movies ever tried to match. They had grit, heart, fun, humour, drama, violence, real world debacles and an unbeatable SOVL permeating through it all. Although, I'll concede that GoldenEye would have close to as good if they had kept M a man and fixed the third act.
Formerly The Dying Nightdarks
I think even if they had kept Dalton as Bond and M as a man, Goldeneye is just going to drastically different because the Soviet Union had collapse AND UK was going through an economic depression.
Best Bond film. Best Bond theme. Best Bond.
This music, man...
Best 007 movie of each actor:
>From Russia With Love
>The Spy Who Loved Me
>The Living Daylights
>Tomorrow Never Dies
>Casino Royale
Goldfinger and Goldeneye are overrated.
Surprised to see someone else rate Tomorrow Never Dies so highly. It's extremely underrated.
TND is where they fix the wrongs of GoldenEye massively. M is still a woman unfortunately but she drops the feminist dyke shit and actively encourages Bond to frick Paris, Moneypenny is not some liberated woman but still obsessed with James, the plot is fast and snappy and not too out there and relates to the world at the time. It's easily his best movie although I loved Xenya, Alec and Natalya. Great characters in a movie that is proving to be a bit subpar in re-evaluation. I still wish Cubby had layed off and promised Timothy one at a time and we'd have gotten him back in GoldenEye.
They tried to go for something deep and less action-oriented with The World Is Not Enough, but it just falls flat...
It's not too different from Moore trying to be more serious in "For Your Eyes Only" but it doesn't really work because Moore is at his best when he's funny and charming, the actors should play to their strengths instead of trying to be someone they're not.
And let's not get started on the second worst movie in the entire franchise Die Another Day (the absolute worst is Diamonds Are Forever).
So yeah Brosnan's movies were pretty mediocre overall, but TND is him at his best.
He will forever be known as the "video game" Bond with lots of action and explosions, and TND captures that essence.
They tried to go for something deep and less action-oriented with The World Is Not Enough, but it just falls flat...
Pierce and Marceau had electric chemistry and she was a knockout but you are right. I never minded Denise Richards because the worst crime is them wasting Robert Carlyle and making him into a cuck servant of Elektra.
>It's not too different from Moore trying to be more serious in "For Your Eyes Only" but it doesn't really work because Moore is at his best when he's funny and charming, the actors should play to their strengths instead of trying to be someone they're not.
For Your Eyes Only is a Dalton movie. Moore should have left after Moonraker gracefully. If Dalton had been established as the 80's Bond he'd be revered as the greatest James Bond especially now with the 80's fetishism nostalgia. He would have elevated those movies by virtue of his involvement.
>And let's not get started on the second worst movie in the entire franchise Die Another Day (the absolute worst is Diamonds Are Forever).
I think they're low points but the worst has to be No Time To Die by virtue of it being malicious and subversive garbage.
>He will forever be known as the "video game" Bond with lots of action and explosions, and TND captures that essence.
For sure, his Bond worked best in that medium. Nightfire/EON are absolute belters.
based take
roger moore should have done "diamonds are forever"
dalton should have done "a view to a kill"
connery and moore both suffered from 1 movie too much where they obviously didn't give a frick anymore and they look too old
I fricking hate the LTK haircut, aged him 20 years
With that haircut, he looks identical to Ian Flemming's sketch.
Wtf (You) are literally (Me)
GoldenEye is severely overrated. The plot takes ONE HOUR AND 10 MINUTES TO START and then they get to Russia and then to Cuba and movie is over. The pacing is completely off-kilter. Same thing with Goldfinger.
Notice how all these movies are similar in that there's a serious romance going on instead of Bond just treating them like cum dumpsters
It's also why OHMSS is so good.
True. While I am not a gay who thinks the womanizing should be cut, a real romance and love story is always pleasing and adds integrity to the narrative though I fail to see how TND has that.
the chemistry between the chinese girl and brosnan feels more authentic than the russian girl from goldeneye
too ahead of his time.
people were still used to roger moore's comedic take, it took a while before audiences warmed up to a gritty, edgy bond (daniel craig) but dalton did it first.
They tried it again and it was like watching Barney compared to the integrity, hard-edge and pure kino that Dalton was. His movies are laced with this very lame and gay undertone of subversion. Dalton's Bond is pure cinema. For me, Bond ended with Dalton and these two are the only real James Bonds, with all due respect to Sir Roger who I love.
It's not even the best Dalton Bond film
This is just Scarface/Miami Vice.
Feels like a generic 80's crime movie.
TLD is pure Bondian cold war espionage.
Your assesment of LTK is way off. Yes, it has those elements and they have some scenes that are of the time but LTK is if Ian Fleming lived to the 80's and wrote a Bond adventure with Colombian drug lords and the cocaine wars. It's beautifully written. Fleming always liked putting Bond in different locales and settings and styles. You wouldn't call YOLT a Samurai movie, would you? Plus, come on. Franz Sanchez was kino as frick.
LTK has a cheap look to it.
It feels like you're watching an episode of an 80's crime series.
TLD is more cinematic.
That's due to the production having difficulties but otherwise, the writing and acting and story are absolute top-tier, best the series has ever had.
what a regurgitated homosexual NPC opinion, did you read that on Rotten Tomatoes?
>no Pam gf
Bondbros...
incredible legs
The craige movies just remade this with every outing.
>Friend is killed
>Goes rogue
>Goes rogue
>Friend is killed
minus the womanizing, woman slapping, gadgets, and sense of fun that LTK has
Craig of course treats every Bond girl like a QUEEN
IF THERE WAS A MAN
I COULD DREAAAAM OF
I prefer License To Kill but both films with Dalton are based as frick
Licence to Kill is a more exciting action movie but TLD is a better Bond movie. Dalton's performance and Q showing up and stealing the show in LTK are the only things that made it feel like a Bond movie at all.
TLD is not a better Bond film. The opaque potboiler storyline is dull and not engaging. The villains are weak. The Bond girl dresses like a mormon and never shows any skin. The Afghanistan scenes SUCK ASS.
Meanwhile, LTK is set in beautiful locations in South America, has a very memorable villain, with Benecio del Toro as his henchman, and Wayne Newton as his stooge. It absolutely feels like a Bond film, mixed with things from Ian Fleming's novels. Franz Sanchez is not the first drug lord Bond has gone after, neither in the books or the films. Anyone who says it "doesn't feel like a Bond film" read some stupid review that whined about this shit before watching
It's an old dumb moron argument. There's Q, there's gadgets, there's sexy girls in sexy outfits, he has two squeezes instead of being monogamous Bond in TLD because Cubby Broccoli was scandalized by the AIDS outbreak. It's as Bond as anything ever fricking Bond'ed
I remember making that image, nice that you saved it because I lost it. Anyhow, you're correct on all points. The spy thriller approach was completely abandoned by the Afghanistan segment. The whole plot also is really nonsensical and unevenly written. Dalton salvaged it but LTK is his magnum opus. It's a movie in the Bond canon that if you love, you think it's the best ever made which it is. If someone hates it, they are filtered.
>It's as Bond as anything ever fricking Bond'ed.
Great line.
timofy dalton is a good actor. he was a good bad guy in the rocketeer
>Shags his way through Blofield's secret Swiss mountain base while impersonating a gay genealogist
heh, nothing personell
this guy is literally just some random chad who got the part because he was that goodlookijg. Kinda crazy to think about.
he was advertising for some twinkiebars, cubby was probably getting high on coke while munching on them and he just insisted they cast him
Based Dalton chad
>Best bonds
1.Connery
2.Dalton
3.Brosnan
4.Moore
5.Lazenby
6.Craig
>Best films
The Spy Who Loved me
GoldenEye
The Living Daylights
OHMSS
From Russia With love
>Best theme songs
Nobody Does It Better
Live and Let die
Diamonds Are Forever
Thunderball
Tomorrow Never Dies
LTK is better, maryam d'abo can't act for shit. Pam is also sexier and cuter <3
Frick off Dalton gays. Le close to the books. No he wasn’t. Craig is actually closer to the books. Total emotional b***h falls in love with every woman he meets. This movie was 80s political correct and AIDS era ass. Bond doesn’t even frick anyone.
Real stunts look so much better than CGI slop.
Yes