I love The Sound of One Hand Clapping
Or whatever it’s called, the one where he just embarrasses Joker and then almost kills Batman for sending Joker to Metropolis as a “test”.
I hated that issue. And not because it shat on Joker.
It was because it was a clear example of the author just using the character as a mouthpiece to express the author's opinions instead of giving the characters their own voice. Superman literally breaks the fourth wall by saying "anybody can play you" even though he doesn't know The Joker is a fictional character who has been played by actors in adaptations. Superman makes jokes about Gotham villains looking like Hot Topic rejects even though Superman wouldn't know or care what "Hot Topic" is, but Max Landis would.
There's nothing wrong with disliking a character or writing a story that serves to critique or deconstruct aspects of them you think others overlook. But when Alan Moore didn't like Mr. A, he created Rorschach to show what kind of life would be lived by a violent person with a black-and-white worldview. He advances the argument that "we shouldn't idealize or emulate this kind of person, he's just sad and unhealthy." But he's still an entertaining character who is engaging to read.
When Max Landis didn't like Joker, he wrote a whole-ass issue of Superman giving Joker a piece of Max's mind and then Joker shitting his pants to prove Max's point. Lazy.
>make fun of a character who spends entire panels telling bad guys that moral grey doesnt exist while also allowing them to fall to their deaths >by depicting such black and white mentality as literally childish and delusional
anyone who unironically thinks mr A made any good points is probably just steve ditko back from the dead
But the great thing about Moore's send-up is that even though he depicts Rorschach as childish and delusional and pathetic and stinky, he still remembers to make him human and interesting. In fact, he's most readers' favourite character.
Landis would never make a character he doesn't like interesting to read about.
It's also "Superman for All Seasons" for me. Also:
>"The Luthor Nobody Knows" >"Lockup at 20,000 Feet!" >"Superman Battles Death Underground" >"The Way of All Flesh"
"Mxyzpixilated" >"The Late Mr. Kent"
I liked the silver age better sendoff it was nice because Moore wasn't ironic in it he just plotted it as a silver age story but the only difference is that there's a payoff
So maybe other anons read it differently but it’s not his desire of living on Krypton that I found interesting, it’s how his imaginary life on Krypton is displayed. His fantasy isn’t just to be home that made it interesting to me, it’s that in his fantasy he’s just a normal guy. This is Bronze Age Superman, he can pretty much do anything. He has the power of a literal god and all he wants is a middling job, a wife and kids to go home to, and the chance to just be a normal person. The Big Blue Boyscout doesn’t want to be your savior, doesn’t want to be the protector of the world, or be faster than a speeding bullet. Because of his conscience he can never walk away but he wishes he could. I’d have to go digging through the Silver/Bronze era but this might the first story that suggests this idea. He wants to be normal so bad that his ideal fantasy comes with a crappy job, an estranged father, riots in the streets, and an overall imperfect world. But in this world there’s one key difference, and that he’s not the one who has to fix these problems. He doesn’t WANT to be Atlas holding up the world but he HAS to be. Most kids want to be a superhero when they’re little, but it’s an interesting dynamic to suggest that a superhero desperately wants to be one of us.
Let's ignore op's weak bait and instead talk about our favorite Superman stories.
For me, it's Superman For All Seasons
I like how the cartoon adaptation is actually good enough to have Moore's name in the credits.
What cartoon adaptation?
The one from JLU
>Superman For All Seasons
Hey, did they have the balls to say they used that for inspiration for Snyder Superman?
I haven't read that in a while.
These are some of my favorites.
>the exact same comic that was used for bait
Epically based
>Secret Identity
What the...?
Why are homosexuals shilling this again?
I should really read through old Action Comics.
I love The Sound of One Hand Clapping
Or whatever it’s called, the one where he just embarrasses Joker and then almost kills Batman for sending Joker to Metropolis as a “test”.
Sounds legit
Go back to bed Max
I hated that issue. And not because it shat on Joker.
It was because it was a clear example of the author just using the character as a mouthpiece to express the author's opinions instead of giving the characters their own voice. Superman literally breaks the fourth wall by saying "anybody can play you" even though he doesn't know The Joker is a fictional character who has been played by actors in adaptations. Superman makes jokes about Gotham villains looking like Hot Topic rejects even though Superman wouldn't know or care what "Hot Topic" is, but Max Landis would.
There's nothing wrong with disliking a character or writing a story that serves to critique or deconstruct aspects of them you think others overlook. But when Alan Moore didn't like Mr. A, he created Rorschach to show what kind of life would be lived by a violent person with a black-and-white worldview. He advances the argument that "we shouldn't idealize or emulate this kind of person, he's just sad and unhealthy." But he's still an entertaining character who is engaging to read.
When Max Landis didn't like Joker, he wrote a whole-ass issue of Superman giving Joker a piece of Max's mind and then Joker shitting his pants to prove Max's point. Lazy.
I wonder how Max feels about Injustice popularizing the notion that the Joker could easily "beat" Superman if he ever just got bored of Batman.
>Injustice popularizing
Injustice is not popular.
Rorschach is a moronic critique of Mr. A
>make fun of a character who spends entire panels telling bad guys that moral grey doesnt exist while also allowing them to fall to their deaths
>by depicting such black and white mentality as literally childish and delusional
anyone who unironically thinks mr A made any good points is probably just steve ditko back from the dead
But the great thing about Moore's send-up is that even though he depicts Rorschach as childish and delusional and pathetic and stinky, he still remembers to make him human and interesting. In fact, he's most readers' favourite character.
Landis would never make a character he doesn't like interesting to read about.
I fully agree, it makes no sense for superman to call a psychopathic mass killer an edgelord in universe
Superman vs the elite
Still All Star.
I like Death and Return.
It's also "Superman for All Seasons" for me. Also:
>"The Luthor Nobody Knows"
>"Lockup at 20,000 Feet!"
>"Superman Battles Death Underground"
>"The Way of All Flesh"
"Mxyzpixilated"
>"The Late Mr. Kent"
Red Son is my favorite up until it botches the ending immediately after Lex dies
The greatest Superman story nobody remembers:
https://4archive.org/board/co/thread/93780899/storytime-superman-strength
No? its pretty typical of Superman
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is far more overrated.
I can't decide if it was a satire or not.
I liked the silver age better sendoff it was nice because Moore wasn't ironic in it he just plotted it as a silver age story but the only difference is that there's a payoff
So maybe other anons read it differently but it’s not his desire of living on Krypton that I found interesting, it’s how his imaginary life on Krypton is displayed. His fantasy isn’t just to be home that made it interesting to me, it’s that in his fantasy he’s just a normal guy. This is Bronze Age Superman, he can pretty much do anything. He has the power of a literal god and all he wants is a middling job, a wife and kids to go home to, and the chance to just be a normal person. The Big Blue Boyscout doesn’t want to be your savior, doesn’t want to be the protector of the world, or be faster than a speeding bullet. Because of his conscience he can never walk away but he wishes he could. I’d have to go digging through the Silver/Bronze era but this might the first story that suggests this idea. He wants to be normal so bad that his ideal fantasy comes with a crappy job, an estranged father, riots in the streets, and an overall imperfect world. But in this world there’s one key difference, and that he’s not the one who has to fix these problems. He doesn’t WANT to be Atlas holding up the world but he HAS to be. Most kids want to be a superhero when they’re little, but it’s an interesting dynamic to suggest that a superhero desperately wants to be one of us.
That was far too thought out for a troll post.
>it's an "OP is a homosexual" thread again
Write something better you untalented homosexual.
>Superman get ipad
>the man who is ugly doesn't like being ugly
This was revolutionary Fantastic Four story? Were readers moronic?
Why is Reed falling into the ghost zone in the back?
scientific hubris
>Were readers moronic?
But enough about OP
live
>Were readers moronic?
You certainly were.