>THE MOVIE IS ABOUT BARBIE FINDING HERSELF, IT'S NOT ABOUT KEN YOU DUMB MISOGYNIST
>"KENERGY" IS JUST A PARODY OF THE PATRIARCHY, IT'S NOT A REAL THING
>THE MOVIE IS ABOUT BARBIE FINDING HERSELF, IT'S NOT ABOUT KEN YOU DUMB MISOGYNIST
>THE MOVIE IS ABOUT BARBIE FINDING HERSELF, IT'S NOT ABOUT KEN YOU DUMB MISOGYNIST
>"KENERGY" IS JUST A PARODY OF THE PATRIARCHY, IT'S NOT A REAL THING
>that ick when he doesn't love the Barbie movie
>that ick when he does love the Barbie movie
This too. It really depends on my period.
I genuinely believe there are women who feel this way. They both dislike men who are too misogynistic and who are too feminist and which one is more important depends on her chemical balance on that particular day.
There definitely are, the question is how many make life choices based on it.
Had a huge fight with my GF because I genuinely believe the Barbie movie was a satire on feminism and Ken was the protagonist
>the Barbie movie was a satire on feminism
not according to the filmmaker
Get death of the author’d, nerd
>not according to the filmmaker
That's the chick the Scarjo "U Gaslighting Meh!!!" meme character is based on.
She's an idiot and a psycho. So much so even a mentally diseased Hollywood israelite with Shiska-Fever got sick of her shit.
>It's not a satire of feminism
Things that ACTUALLY happen in the Barbie movie:
>Matriarchy is portrayed as ineffective, weak and inferior to patriarchy
>Men are portrayed as going through the SAME THINGS women go through, but handle it much better, thus the movie shows that men are stronger
>A single man is enough to overthrow matriarchy
>Women are so weak, they can't take their society back by force or logic, they have to lie and cheat to get it back
>The most genuine character arc and payoff is given to a man
Either Barbie was a parody of feminism, or it was made by the most incompetent morons in history
moron.
>or it was made by the most incompetent morons in history
Must have been made by a woman. OOOOHHHHHHHH
Feminism is a satire of itself by this point though. They keep pretending they're oppressed while making endless Hollywood movies and shows about how oppressed they are.
Yeah this is the real issue with the movie and modern feminism as a whole. You can't make good arguments when the very basic building blocks of your beliefs are woefully incorrect
Women are too stupid to understand what they create
Just like Starship Troopers.
It's not. It would be a pretty clever movie if it was, and I've had more than one person interpret it as such and therefore think it's awesome. But look at who was in the movie and who made the movie and what they say and it's pretty clearly not.
As it actually is, it's an extremely ok movie with a mish mash of good ideas that they fail to connect together. But the only thing I genuinely didn't like was Ferrera's "literally impossible to be a woman" speech. Not only for the obvious reasons, but it's just so cliche. There had to be a smarter way to snap the Barbies out of the Ken mentality. Like maybe, yeah, the Barbies love being president and doctors and such, but they find they also genuinely like doing things for other people. The same way the normally subservient Kens find an identity beyond beach i.e. a reverse of real world feminism.
>A work of art can only be interpreted the way the artist intended
Any artist will tell you how wrong this is
You can find people who claim the movie isn't feminist enough, or that its really inadvertently reinforcing patriarchy. IMO the first thing to do with any art is try to understand the creators intent first.
>IMO the first thing to do with any art is try to understand the creators intent
Absolutely wrong
1. It doesn't matter. The art speaks on its own.
2. A creator's 'intent' often changes over time, often compared to the start of a project vs the finished product. Hell it can change years later to bend to new social mores or for marketing reasons, just look at JK Rowling for instance.
3. Other people eg actors, producers, editors, directors who are involved in the project have differing interpretations or intentions that can conflict and change the outcome of the art, making any one person's intent immaterial to what the final product presents to the viewer.
No you are wrong on this, artists intent matters. They created something to teach something. You should know what it is. Otherwise I could say the Terminator movies are really a metaphor for Walmart.
moron
I mean the film makes it abundantly clear that the opposite is true.
It's basically saying that sexism towards men is okay because women have suffered so much sexism in the past. It unapologetically flat-out states that a women-run world would be a paradise. Ken is portrayed as being the villain (or at least very wrong and misguided) for trying to vote for rights for the Kens.
And the women (and troony) are literally brainwashed to make sure they believe the "right" thing which is that being a woman is the hardest thing in the world and any woman who disagrees is a brainwashed idiot apparently (hypocritically). This is portrayed as a very empowering moment when their autonomy is taken away btw
I thought that there was at least some satirical element to it for a while but the evidence is too stacked against that view. Barbieworld isn't meant to be a satire of a matriarchy it's a weird hybrid. It's a female utopia that simultaneously parodies patriarchy. So when they exclude men thats both pointing out irl female exclusion but it's also a good thing when it happens to men. The writers and director are morons, basically.
Yeah it is it's just unintentional, it's truly sociopathic how women don't get how Ken's are treated like women are in the real world and that's seen as a positive by women who hate how they're treated in the real world.
It's not. Instead of making a woman display how badly they've got it in the real world, Werwig created a reverse world where women rule and men are second class, and then makes one of the men campaign for more rights. Kens = Women.
People still didn't understand it.
Kens in Barbieland are a stand in for real world women but they are still wrong for wanting freedom and deserve to be oppressed because they are ultimately men. That is the actual message of the movie. Their subjugation is supposed to make you sympathetic to women, not men.
The narrator explicitly says "if kens keep working hard enough they'll someday have the same rights and power that women have in the real world" and you still didn't get it.
You really need to just read or watch an interview by the film makers. This attempt to retcon the film as even being partially satirical is no longer defensible imo.
>if kens keep working hard enough they'll someday have the same rights and power that women have in the real world
Read it as
>if women keep working hard enough they'll someday have the same rights and power that men have
The Kens are still stand ins for women, the filmmakers are pointing out what they see as the glacial pacing of patriarchy in its ability to make social progress. This isn't a jab at a hypothetical matriarchy, its a satire of patriarchy.
Yeah uts main problem is its mixed metaphors - mediocre thematic writing like most films nowadays regardless of politics. The actual messages they were aiming for are relatively reasonable but the ideas are strung together in a way that doesn't make sense as a whole. Falls on its face as a sociopolitical argument as a result but it does have some legitimately funny moments and out-there production design which is nice to see in a movie these days. I preferred Oppenheimer, one of Nolan's most thematically rich to date and yet again even his fans fail to grasp its broader commentary on human solipsism and hubris beyond the biographical focus of its title. Oppie's stranglehold on the film's attention down to its title is as much a device of the film as the Mona Wasserman logo at the start of Beau Is Afraid. RDJ's Strauss is a douchebag but his assessment of Oppie's character is not incorrect. Now that's good, emotionally truthful writing even if it does suffer from a few of Nolan's usual stylistic flaws (and fewer of them than his past handful of features, which is nice to see).
>Werwig created a reverse world where women rule and men are second class
And thats a good thing!
Kind of how E;R joked that Fury Road was secretly misogynistic with host stupid women were portrayed?
Ken was the most likeable character with the most satisfying arc. She didn't mean to do it, but she made a Ken movie instead of a Barbie movie
if it came out 10 years ago i would absolutely read it that way because of the ridiculous nature of the plot, story and dialogue structure but in current year, barbie is considered a real and sincere poignant feminist film. its as baffling to me as it is to you, but its true.
the duality of foids
>that ick when she doesn't love Das Boot
No girl at a festival actually does this. She's telling him how she needs to go to the toilet or how she's so drunk or something.
More like
>Those 5 huge guys called me a bawd go do something about it Timmy
“You call her a bawd?”
“What are you gonna do about it….”
>makes near $50 million for some flick
fight the patriarky sis!
what is that shape of body called?
Square or proto-fridge. When she reaches 25 she will be full on fridge mode.
>When she reaches 25
the woman in the photo is under 25??
She looks like 19/20. Body is too slender to have hit the wall yet.
she was 21 in the pic
this is her at 25 btw
Name?
yikes
it wasn't even a political movie. the feminism/patriarchy was pretty much a fantasy premise, just like barbie-land
>"YOOOOO, I am menstruating, darling. Time to lick the red carpet!"
Kenergy is Vril
How to get qt passionate overexplainer gf?
Find a slightly above average intelligence girl. She's going to be passionately overexplaining shit like Harry Potter and Gray's Anatomy though, hope you're prepared for that.
literally any b***h interested in celebrity marriages and babies will spend 15 minutes telling you that two people you've never heard of are now dating and why this is a big deal
>marriages and babies
Sounds cute
Sounds horrifying. Women should be allowed to have jobs
They are where I live. Unless it's very fricked up I don't care specifically what they're interested in, I just enjoy watching their eyes light up and the fact that they like you enough to share something important to them with you. I'll at least give it a shot if it's that important to them and hope they will do the same with my passions.
you omitted a key word, moron
Even celebrity stuff might be interesting if she's passionate about it. Like I said, I'd at least give it a genuine chance.
look like the guy in the pic
>I‘m sorry. I was wrong, my love, I believe in Ken Supremacy now.
>o be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand "Oppenheimer". The historical context is extremely intricate, and without a solid grasp of nuclear physics, most of the references will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Oppenheimer's complex perspective, which is masterfully integrated into his portrayal – his worldview is heavily influenced by philosophical writings like Bhagavad Gita, for example. The fans comprehend these nuances; they possess the intellectual capacity to truly fathom the depths of the narrative, to realize that it's not just informative – it speaks profoundly about HISTORY. As a result, individuals who disparage "Oppenheimer" truly ARE uninformed – naturally, they wouldn't grasp, for instance, the significance of Oppenheimer's reflective quote "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds," which itself alludes to the monumental impact of his work on humanity's trajectory. I'm contemplating right now, envisioning those befuddled minds struggling to decipher the brilliance of the storytelling as the biopic unfolds on their screens. What a pity.. how I sympathize with them.
>Ken's arc is about him finding his individuality
>Does everything for Barbie and gets the conclusion to his character arc from Barbie
>no breasts
>no ass
>fridge body
poor guy
also looks like hunter schafer
>You see the joke is that the store used to belong to Chuck which means that originally it . . . .
then why is Ken the main character?
i like this. it's the same energy as the baseball guy and blonde stacy one, but gender flipped at a music festival
wownowai
you're so perceptive and mature for your age
She's in heat. Arm around the neck so she can rub her breasts against him. Classic.
>LISTEN YOU TIKTOK HOOER, I'M KENOUGH