I saw a clip of the scene on youtube once, I thought there was some sort of meme voice added to it so I turned it off. Years later I saw the movie on tv and it had the same voice. My mind was blown and I was left wondering how anyone could enjoy that movie.
it actually sounded all right when the prologue was first teased with MI4 6mo before release, but morons complained they couldn't make out what he was saying... so they brought Tom Hardy back into studio to dub over all his scenes, which was extremely jarring for the whole movie.
>so they brought Tom Hardy back into studio to dub over all his scenes, which was extremely jarring for the whole movie.
I showed the plane scene to a zoomer on friday (we were talking about the JW3 plane scene being moronic and I said it reminded me of this).
Her first comment was how weird it was that everyone else had to shout because of all the plane noises but Tom Hardy's voice was obviously recorded in a quiet studio.
Batman's voice was already pretty goofy because he pushed his voice way too low and growly to sound good but adding Bane's voice to the mix was something I couldn't even imagine in a movie with this kind of budget.
>I saw a clip of the scene on youtube once, I thought there was some sort of meme voice added to it so I turned it off. Years later I saw the movie on tv and it had the same voice. My mind was blown and I was left wondering how anyone could enjoy that movie.
Same lol
The Dark Knight was one of the biggest movies of the 00s, and there was nearly a 5 year wait between TDK and TDKR, both the first 2 movies were pretty high quality even if TDK had more buzz and popularity, so I believe the reason the opening scene is so "famous" is just because of the years of anticipation for this movies release and everyone's greeted with the damn plane scene
They obviously wanted to try and recapture the feeling and vibe of the opening scene of TDK but I really don't think they needed to introduce Bane that early like they did with the Joker bank heist
the scene is actually literally unironic kino though
I heard he based it on an actual guy, like a gypsy king, strongest fighter in the village type of dude. Supposedly an intimidating way of speaking if you know the context, but a very weird choice for this character.
Then again we're all still talking about it. If he'd just gone with some generic tough guy american voice he might have been a completely forgettable character.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
It seems like he took all the welsh out of it and made it a bit more wienerney, don't know if this was intentional or just Hardy's natural london coming through. And obviously a lot more dramatic, a grandstanding villain rather than a guy giving an interview.
At least he acknowledges that it was a risk and doesn't seem to mind it gets mocked, he made a bold choice and stands by it.
I was baffled most by the "Get this hothead out of here" line. It's delivered so strangely to the point it's nearly incomprehensible. It's like it was meant for another scene or something.
I just watched it again last night, and the way Gordon says "no, but you know about Pattons" to Robin always threw me off. Like wtf does a WW2 general and his family have to do with any of this?
He didn't say that, he said "I'm CIA". Memes aside, that's a fairly common way of telling someone your affiliation; "I'm special forces" means you're with the SF, "I'm CIA" means you're a Langley spook, "I'm army" means you're in the US army, etc.
>Aidan Gillen as Bill Wilson: A CIA operative who was tasked with extracting Pavel from Uzbekistan and tracking down Bane for terrorist activities before his appearance in Gotham City. (Bill is referred to solely as "CIA" in the film's dialogue; the character's name is revealed in the film's novelization.)
>alright tom your character is a mexican wrestler but you can play him because he wears a mask, but you need to work on an accent >dont worry i've been watching silly german accent videos and i got the perfect one
>hood manages to covered a huge roided out beast of a man
some scooby doo shit right there, would have made sense if Nolan wasn’t such a realism cuck and had him venom up on reveal
film novelizations are done for one reason, to pay the rent for the year, by writers who would much rather write something else.
it's no surprise it's low effort.
>Aidan Gillen as Bill Wilson: A CIA operative who was tasked with extracting Pavel from Uzbekistan and tracking down Bane for terrorist activities before his appearance in Gotham City. (Bill is referred to solely as "CIA" in the film's dialogue; the character's name is revealed in the film's novelization.)
Usually these novelizations get written by the most low tier writers you can think of, the kind of people who make a living writing Warhammer books and stuff like that. Like just barely above fanfiction level writers are the ones who do this kind of work .
I used to like reading novelizations solely because they often included material that never made it into the final movie. This was back in the late 90s-early 2000s though.
Some things have to be changed which can make the tone of a scene different. I read the novelization of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade before I saw the movie. The scene where Indy is talking about the curator and saying "He speaks every language from here to Sudan, he'll blend in, disappear" in the movie it then cuts to the curator haplessly wandering around Cairo asking if anyone speaks English. The movie plays it as ironic, Indy seems to really think his friend has the skills to avoid capture and find the grail. In the novelization, it shows his internal monologue and it makes it clear that Indy is lying through his teeth and remembers how the guy gets lost in his own museum. It's a small change but it always stuck with me. Part of it is because they can't really do a cutaway like that in a novel, but it also adds something to the scene imo.
Many novelizations are (or were) based on early drafts or screenplays so would be significantly different or include stuff not in the actual movie. The Ghostbusters one was quite good and the writer was even hired to write for Real Ghostbusters.
I've read some film novelizations over the years. I actually downloaded Batman Begins and TDK to read at some point. >s tier
Revenge of the Sith, one of my favorite books ever >a tier
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Spider-Man (2002)
A New Hope >b tier
Spider-Man (2002) >c tier
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Empire Strikes Back >d tier
The Clone Wars
Revenge of the Sith novelization is terrible and Stover's style is atrocious. The fact that you consider it to be one of the best books you've ever read says a lot, really. This is how it feels to be moronic anon. Forever.
Based Revenge of the Sith enjoyer. Thats also one of my favorite Star wars books. I like all of mathew stovers books.
Forgot my pic
>slop wars fans >absolute dogshit taste
how unexpected
The following is the actual excerpt from the Revenge of the Sith novelization: >SAN HILL: Welcome, Lord Vader! On behalf of the leadership of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, let me be the first to... >VADER: Very well. You will be the first. >VADER removes his hood and ignites his saber. >SAN HILL: You're Anakin Skywalker! >VADER digs his saber into the chest of SAN HILL. >VADER: The resemblance is deceptive. >SHU MAI: We were promised a reward...a handsome reward! >VADER: I am your reward. You don't find me handsome? >RUNE HAAKO: Stop! Enough! We surrender, do you understand? You can't just kill us! >VADER: Can't I? >RUNE HAAKO: We're unarmed! We surrender! Please, please, you're a Jedi! >VADER: You fought a war to destroy the Jedi. >VADER slashes RUNE HAAKO. >VADER (cont.): Congratulations on your success. >WAT TAMBOR: Please, I'll give you anything. Anything you want! >VADER cuts WAT TAMBORS arms and head >VADER: Thank you. >NUTE GUNRAY: The war... The war is over... Lord Sidious promised... He promised we would be left in peace. >VADER RISES HIS LIGHTSABER >VADER: He promised you would be left in pieces.
Amazing, that somehow George's mediocre movie is 1000x times better than this literal MCU shit.
>OK Tom, we need you to really sell Bane as an intimidating genius. What kind of voice can you give us?
>I call this "The Silly Sean Connery!"
I saw a clip of the scene on youtube once, I thought there was some sort of meme voice added to it so I turned it off. Years later I saw the movie on tv and it had the same voice. My mind was blown and I was left wondering how anyone could enjoy that movie.
it actually sounded all right when the prologue was first teased with MI4 6mo before release, but morons complained they couldn't make out what he was saying... so they brought Tom Hardy back into studio to dub over all his scenes, which was extremely jarring for the whole movie.
>so they brought Tom Hardy back into studio to dub over all his scenes, which was extremely jarring for the whole movie.
I showed the plane scene to a zoomer on friday (we were talking about the JW3 plane scene being moronic and I said it reminded me of this).
Her first comment was how weird it was that everyone else had to shout because of all the plane noises but Tom Hardy's voice was obviously recorded in a quiet studio.
Based zoomers not understanding sound volume vs gain
Batman's voice was already pretty goofy because he pushed his voice way too low and growly to sound good but adding Bane's voice to the mix was something I couldn't even imagine in a movie with this kind of budget.
I remember Cinemaphile mocking the prologue audio when it leaked...god damn it was over 10 years ago
>I saw a clip of the scene on youtube once, I thought there was some sort of meme voice added to it so I turned it off. Years later I saw the movie on tv and it had the same voice. My mind was blown and I was left wondering how anyone could enjoy that movie.
Same lol
I still remember seeing it in theaters. The entire time I was like
The Dark Knight was one of the biggest movies of the 00s, and there was nearly a 5 year wait between TDK and TDKR, both the first 2 movies were pretty high quality even if TDK had more buzz and popularity, so I believe the reason the opening scene is so "famous" is just because of the years of anticipation for this movies release and everyone's greeted with the damn plane scene
I still remember being absolutely baffled in the kinoplex watching this scene, it was so bad I thought I walked into the wrong movie
They obviously wanted to try and recapture the feeling and vibe of the opening scene of TDK but I really don't think they needed to introduce Bane that early like they did with the Joker bank heist
the scene is actually literally unironic kino though
BIG GUY BANE
SOME FLY GOOD AND OTHERS CRASH THE PLANE
BIG GUY BANE
the prologue was also shown in imax screenings before the actual movie came out
the scene was leaked early and the first "You're a big guy / For you" Cinemaphile post was months before the movie actually released
I heard he based it on an actual guy, like a gypsy king, strongest fighter in the village type of dude. Supposedly an intimidating way of speaking if you know the context, but a very weird choice for this character.
Then again we're all still talking about it. If he'd just gone with some generic tough guy american voice he might have been a completely forgettable character.
It's a memorable scene for lots of reasons, but none of them are what the director wanted.
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
It seems like he took all the welsh out of it and made it a bit more wienerney, don't know if this was intentional or just Hardy's natural london coming through. And obviously a lot more dramatic, a grandstanding villain rather than a guy giving an interview.
At least he acknowledges that it was a risk and doesn't seem to mind it gets mocked, he made a bold choice and stands by it.
He sounded like Ra's from BB
I'm not reading that shit
gay
>talks about his mask before the bag is off his head.
Why did the movie get that wrong?
Wise guy,huh?at least you can talk.Who are you?
Because with the visual of him having a bag on his head it would sound silly, like he's talking about the bag
>did he just say what i think he Said
My reaction to every line of dialogue of that movie
I was baffled most by the "Get this hothead out of here" line. It's delivered so strangely to the point it's nearly incomprehensible. It's like it was meant for another scene or something.
I just watched it again last night, and the way Gordon says "no, but you know about Pattons" to Robin always threw me off. Like wtf does a WW2 general and his family have to do with any of this?
>Whoa, Wilson thought
Hehe
Brought to you by the modern zoomywood writers
>Originally published: July 24, 2012
Yeah, those 8-year-old zoomers responsible for the novelization of The Dark Knight Rises.
I'm not talking about the novelization, I'm talking about what's Hollywood now.
>Whoa, did he just say what I think he said?
Your average English major at a state school could do better than this
Movie novelizations are usually meant for children.
Sometimes they add more to the lore. The Matrix book told you a lot more about Neo's normie life and work for example
That's fine, I'm sure there are exceptions. But usually they are written for children and young adults so I wouldn't be expecting Dostoyevsky here.
Is this real
it's very real
It's real, and it's spectactular
Wow I never realized CIA was pretending to throw the guy out, I'm an idiot for not understanding what he meant by "he didn't fly so good"
wise guy, huh?
Post the page already you homosexual
Who's Wilson?
The CIA
> I'm the CIA
Is this a normal thing to say in English
He didn't say that, he said "I'm CIA". Memes aside, that's a fairly common way of telling someone your affiliation; "I'm special forces" means you're with the SF, "I'm CIA" means you're a Langley spook, "I'm army" means you're in the US army, etc.
I'm Television & Film
Littlefinger
>Aidan Gillen as Bill Wilson: A CIA operative who was tasked with extracting Pavel from Uzbekistan and tracking down Bane for terrorist activities before his appearance in Gotham City. (Bill is referred to solely as "CIA" in the film's dialogue; the character's name is revealed in the film's novelization.)
just reminds me of when I first saw the film and a bunch of teens up front called it gay after a few minutes and trashed the theater and walked out
You don't have to say teens, I won't report you.
why were the guys sad?
They were sad that they weren't big guys
>Wise guy, huh?
That's a new line.
For you
This is like Garth Marenghi writing.
I lol'd at "useless waste of flesh".
Who is Garth Marenghi and how is his writing?
>I'm the only person in the world who's written more books than he's read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises#Internet_meme
>"Aidan Gillen has accidentally become part of a bizarre 'alt-right meme'"
Dark Knight alt right now
The scene now needs all of CIA’s thoughts dubbed in with that echoey voice they use for thinking in tv and film.
>alright tom your character is a mexican wrestler but you can play him because he wears a mask, but you need to work on an accent
>dont worry i've been watching silly german accent videos and i got the perfect one
the thing I never got was they let this big guy on the plane in the first place, how did nobody notice?
CIA just took some mercenary at his word and didn't even bother looking under the hood of the three men he brought into his plane.
>hood manages to covered a huge roided out beast of a man
some scooby doo shit right there, would have made sense if Nolan wasn’t such a realism cuck and had him venom up on reveal
He was an average guy compared to everyone else
>He was an average guy
for you
Badly written as it is, it actually explains what they're doing with the prisoners better than the movie
>The special forces men
So they were all Green Berets? I thought they were CIA
>Woah... Did he just say what I think he said?
And I thought the script in the movie was bad
film novelizations are done for one reason, to pay the rent for the year, by writers who would much rather write something else.
it's no surprise it's low effort.
Who the frick is Wilson and why did they re-cast CIA with him?
imo Hardy's worst voice is the tough guy mumble he does in Mad Max
WHOA
>we are the dirt beneath your feet and also no one cared who i was until i put on the mask
jesus christ this writing makes nolan look like a genius
Now post the BIG GUY moment I want to see how that translates to text
>Wise guy, hug?
>Only the wind answered him
Who wrote this shit!? Emily Bronte!?
Usually these novelizations get written by the most low tier writers you can think of, the kind of people who make a living writing Warhammer books and stuff like that. Like just barely above fanfiction level writers are the ones who do this kind of work .
The sad thing is that prose looks a lot like something i'd write
Publish and I'll buy a paperback
You're a wise guy
For the dirt beneath your feet
AW WISE GUY EY
>”This can’t be happening! I’m in charge here.”
Writing movie novelizations is the literally easiest job in the world. You just copy+paste the screenplay and add some dramatic embellishments
I used to like reading novelizations solely because they often included material that never made it into the final movie. This was back in the late 90s-early 2000s though.
True for lots of movies, novelizations are the closest thing to an extended/director cut
Some things have to be changed which can make the tone of a scene different. I read the novelization of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade before I saw the movie. The scene where Indy is talking about the curator and saying "He speaks every language from here to Sudan, he'll blend in, disappear" in the movie it then cuts to the curator haplessly wandering around Cairo asking if anyone speaks English. The movie plays it as ironic, Indy seems to really think his friend has the skills to avoid capture and find the grail. In the novelization, it shows his internal monologue and it makes it clear that Indy is lying through his teeth and remembers how the guy gets lost in his own museum. It's a small change but it always stuck with me. Part of it is because they can't really do a cutaway like that in a novel, but it also adds something to the scene imo.
Many novelizations are (or were) based on early drafts or screenplays so would be significantly different or include stuff not in the actual movie. The Ghostbusters one was quite good and the writer was even hired to write for Real Ghostbusters.
Why does it describe the prisoner as a "useless waste of flesh"
cia's inner thoughts
Why is he so hateful?
Bane couldn't even kill a schizo furry, so CIA was right
>https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/24/read-banes-introduction-from-the-dark-knight-rises-novel
Thank you, IGN
>Death amended the flight plan
Give this man a Nobel
>“If I pull this off, will you die?”
>“It would be extremely painful,” Bane answered.
>Good to know, Wilson thought. He had no sympathy for the ruthless mercenary. Bane was a bad guy who deserved to suffer.
>“You’re a big guy.”
>“For you,” Bane clarified.
The confusion is over tv, we rest
>Bane was a bad guy
Finally we know the truth
That's CIA thinking. From Bane's point of view CIA is the bad guy
>That's CIA thinking
Whoa
>Go out of your way to give CIA a name
>"The nameless operative died instantly"
I've read some film novelizations over the years. I actually downloaded Batman Begins and TDK to read at some point.
>s tier
Revenge of the Sith, one of my favorite books ever
>a tier
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Spider-Man (2002)
A New Hope
>b tier
Spider-Man (2002)
>c tier
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
The Empire Strikes Back
>d tier
The Clone Wars
Revenge of the Sith novelization is terrible and Stover's style is atrocious. The fact that you consider it to be one of the best books you've ever read says a lot, really. This is how it feels to be moronic anon. Forever.
I love Stover's Star Wars books. Shatterpoint was good and Revan was great.
Forgot my pic
>slop wars fans
>absolute dogshit taste
how unexpected
I read everything from this chart. And I re-read Long Shots every year.
The following is the actual excerpt from the Revenge of the Sith novelization:
>SAN HILL: Welcome, Lord Vader! On behalf of the leadership of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, let me be the first to...
>VADER: Very well. You will be the first.
>VADER removes his hood and ignites his saber.
>SAN HILL: You're Anakin Skywalker!
>VADER digs his saber into the chest of SAN HILL.
>VADER: The resemblance is deceptive.
>SHU MAI: We were promised a reward...a handsome reward!
>VADER: I am your reward. You don't find me handsome?
>RUNE HAAKO: Stop! Enough! We surrender, do you understand? You can't just kill us!
>VADER: Can't I?
>RUNE HAAKO: We're unarmed! We surrender! Please, please, you're a Jedi!
>VADER: You fought a war to destroy the Jedi.
>VADER slashes RUNE HAAKO.
>VADER (cont.): Congratulations on your success.
>WAT TAMBOR: Please, I'll give you anything. Anything you want!
>VADER cuts WAT TAMBORS arms and head
>VADER: Thank you.
>NUTE GUNRAY: The war... The war is over... Lord Sidious promised... He promised we would be left in peace.
>VADER RISES HIS LIGHTSABER
>VADER: He promised you would be left in pieces.
Amazing, that somehow George's mediocre movie is 1000x times better than this literal MCU shit.
Most people do, contrarian-anon
Based Revenge of the Sith enjoyer. Thats also one of my favorite Star wars books. I like all of mathew stovers books.
Does it explain why SAD attack the henchmen in the plane when the henchmen outside the plane attack it?
it's a big book
>no “it doesn’t matter who we are, what matters is our plan”
this is the greatest thing I've read in years
Wise?
>uses Cinemaphile enough to know the truth
>still thinks this is a high bar
ngmi
>Wilson lied
That's a big book
For one such as yourself.
You buttholes made Aiden cry
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