t.low iq
the guru was obviously an allegory to buddhism, and the avatar state and escaping the cycle of reincarnation and overt reference to spiritual enlightenment.
Which requires you let go of all earthly attachments, not to indulge yourself anyway but make meagre concessions that are just for show.
As a kid I thought the same as Aang did and took it literally as in stop having feelings for her.
Now I see it as the Avatar can't and should not have their loved ones above their Avatar duties.
I believe this. Yang Chen tells Aang that Avatars can't achieve spiritual enlightenment because their duty is to be bound to the world, not detached to it, the guru was just spinning his bullshit to Aang
that sounds more like she's saying they're not supposed to detach because it's their duty, not that it's impossible to detach. They could've written it that very few avatars enter an avatar state because of this issue, that only the detached ones can do it.
They wanted to use Buddhist themes but couldn't commit, since that requires stuff like no romance and no friends and devoting yourself to the avatar job
Would've preferred they committed and made avatar state something hard to do than "The only way to get in the avatar state is to bump your back against a rock a little"
Going into the Avatar state at will is hard to do, but bumping your wound on a rock fits the aspect of your life or someone being in danger, which triggers the avatar state
Well it is American so those cultural influences will be there, like the WWE episode. >Buddhist and Taoist themes together
Historically that's how Chinese folk religions worked
The writers are trendy white people pop orientalist pseudo religious hipsters who like the "vibe" of eastern religions without actually putting any effort into it so they just let Aang bullshit his way back to the avatar state and live happily ever after with the girl he had a crush on when he was 12 years old, who somehow inexplicably returned his affections despite being much more mature than Aang and treating him previously like an annoying little brother.
>who somehow inexplicably returned his affections despite being much more mature than Aang and treating him previously like an annoying little brother.
Katara never treated Aang as an annoying little brother, and was shown to be less mature than Aang in certain situations. That's what made the gang interesting was how each of their maturity levels varied depending on the circumstance. Sokka was the most practical but also impatient and stubborn. Katara was more empathetic but that also led her to making rash and irresponsible decisions. Aang was peaceful but also inexperienced and lacked discipline.
Bryke misunderstood what "attachment" means in Buddhism. It doesn't mean emotional or personal bonds/connections like romance or friendship per se, but selfish possessiveness. Buddhism frowns on love rooted in attachments because it doesn't allow you to love other people meaningfully. Hence why a Buddhist must learn to love unconditionally, to accept and embrace that life is temporary but ultimately beautiful and full of worth regardless.
Bryke either did not understand this or purposefully misinterpreted this. As a result, Kataang as a ship has to be further contrived and further rooted in Aang's possessive/entitled love of Katara.
You're one step away from realizing that statements like this are the characters offering their subjective perspective on things rather than the writers using them to make objective statements about lore mechanics.
Aang had entered the Avatar State before that.
He was training to enter the Avatar State at will with full control, via the method of opening his chakras + reaching enlightenment.
This was not a method that other Avatars had used. Guru Pahtiik had never met, trained, or been an Avatar himself. Why would his thing be the singular path to being a proper Avatar?
The issue was that by leaving his chakra training half-finished, Aang had "solved" entering Avatar State by accident, but was also unable to activate it when he wanted to.
The next time Aang entered the Avatar State was by recalling the training, and finishing his final meditation. Then afterward he got his chakras fricked with by lightning and a rock.
Also, Roku went in and out of the Avatar state at will and was married for like 50 years lmao
yeah but did he ever have to worry about letting a girl from the water tribe go?
The first time he did.
I believe the point of this was to love Katara but accept that one day she might be gone and not let that sadness and fear consume him.
That's something low iq people don't understand.
t.low iq
the guru was obviously an allegory to buddhism, and the avatar state and escaping the cycle of reincarnation and overt reference to spiritual enlightenment.
Which requires you let go of all earthly attachments, not to indulge yourself anyway but make meagre concessions that are just for show.
I like this interpretation, but nowhere in the show does it imply this is what the Guru meant and it's moot anyway since Katara outlives Aang.
This is the actual takeaway from this character
As a kid I thought the same as Aang did and took it literally as in stop having feelings for her.
Now I see it as the Avatar can't and should not have their loved ones above their Avatar duties.
Just goes to show how that guru was full of shit. Which is an allegory for gurus being full of shit.
or just that Avatar's writers are full of shit. Which feels a lot more likely.
I believe this. Yang Chen tells Aang that Avatars can't achieve spiritual enlightenment because their duty is to be bound to the world, not detached to it, the guru was just spinning his bullshit to Aang
that sounds more like she's saying they're not supposed to detach because it's their duty, not that it's impossible to detach. They could've written it that very few avatars enter an avatar state because of this issue, that only the detached ones can do it.
They wanted to use Buddhist themes but couldn't commit, since that requires stuff like no romance and no friends and devoting yourself to the avatar job
Would've preferred they committed and made avatar state something hard to do than "The only way to get in the avatar state is to bump your back against a rock a little"
Kind if wild to think had that pointed rock not been there, the firelord would have stomped aang and won. Total luck.
Going into the Avatar state at will is hard to do, but bumping your wound on a rock fits the aspect of your life or someone being in danger, which triggers the avatar state
so basically every single fight, then? Lame. Besides after their first time Aang and Korra never has issues again.
no it aint'. After the finale Aang can go into the avatar state whenever he wants.
>After the finale
not canon
I am going to rape Bryke(spiritually)
And people laugh when I tell them Avatar is Christian, or at least synthesizes Christian, Buddhist and Taoist themes together
Well it is American so those cultural influences will be there, like the WWE episode.
>Buddhist and Taoist themes together
Historically that's how Chinese folk religions worked
>The only way to achieve enlightenment and master the avatar state is to let her go
there you go you lying homosexual.
>The only way to achieve enlightenment and master the avatar state is to let her go
So what you're saying is, he didn't master the avatar Statehe didn't master the avatar State
The writers are trendy white people pop orientalist pseudo religious hipsters who like the "vibe" of eastern religions without actually putting any effort into it so they just let Aang bullshit his way back to the avatar state and live happily ever after with the girl he had a crush on when he was 12 years old, who somehow inexplicably returned his affections despite being much more mature than Aang and treating him previously like an annoying little brother.
>who somehow inexplicably returned his affections despite being much more mature than Aang and treating him previously like an annoying little brother.
Katara never treated Aang as an annoying little brother, and was shown to be less mature than Aang in certain situations. That's what made the gang interesting was how each of their maturity levels varied depending on the circumstance. Sokka was the most practical but also impatient and stubborn. Katara was more empathetic but that also led her to making rash and irresponsible decisions. Aang was peaceful but also inexperienced and lacked discipline.
>Katara never treated Aang as an annoying little brother
I didn't ask for your headcanon homosexual.
>I didn't ask for your headcanon homosexual.
The iroh-ny
Zutara died and will never happen. Aang and Katara kissed. They had kids. They are canon. And are also real people unlike Zuko who is just a cartoon.
Old people are morons living in the past
Bryke misunderstood what "attachment" means in Buddhism. It doesn't mean emotional or personal bonds/connections like romance or friendship per se, but selfish possessiveness. Buddhism frowns on love rooted in attachments because it doesn't allow you to love other people meaningfully. Hence why a Buddhist must learn to love unconditionally, to accept and embrace that life is temporary but ultimately beautiful and full of worth regardless.
Bryke either did not understand this or purposefully misinterpreted this. As a result, Kataang as a ship has to be further contrived and further rooted in Aang's possessive/entitled love of Katara.
>Kataang as a ship has to be further contrived and further rooted in Aang's possessive/entitled love of Katara.
I was with you until this last line
I was with you, and then I was really with you on the last line. Kataang is contrived garbo.
Nice samegay
So did we ever find out where this dude came from? Like, where are the Indian people in the earth kingdom?
It doesn't make sense, the writers just wanted to have their Empire Strikes Back "Luke quits his training to save his friends" moment
You're one step away from realizing that statements like this are the characters offering their subjective perspective on things rather than the writers using them to make objective statements about lore mechanics.
Aang had entered the Avatar State before that.
He was training to enter the Avatar State at will with full control, via the method of opening his chakras + reaching enlightenment.
This was not a method that other Avatars had used. Guru Pahtiik had never met, trained, or been an Avatar himself. Why would his thing be the singular path to being a proper Avatar?
The issue was that by leaving his chakra training half-finished, Aang had "solved" entering Avatar State by accident, but was also unable to activate it when he wanted to.
The next time Aang entered the Avatar State was by recalling the training, and finishing his final meditation. Then afterward he got his chakras fricked with by lightning and a rock.
>mogged by sharp rock + T910 vertebrae
The deus ex machina was the friends we made along the way