The place where the king landed in his dragon
>Kingslanding
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>place near the sea with lots of storms
>Stormlands
That's exactly how medieval morons think tho. Most surnames nowadays came from that.
>Your surname is Carpenter because your ancestors wre carpenters....
>guys we should name like a dozen major characters with the same exact name
>because that happens in real life
I swear GRRM autists are the worst
>king of France
>his name is Louis or Charles
Fricking unoriginal HACKS!
Except those people actually existed and weren't characters who were part of a story being told to an audience. Whats even worse about GRRM's shitty worldbuilding is that he *could* use nicknames for those characters primarily, but no. Instead he just sticks with "these two major characters will have the exact same name" (unless we style them with shitty descriptors like younger/elder) because frick you.
fan focus / fan service / fan trolling truly are 3 sides of the same problematic coin.
Are you moronic? Kings and nobles in ASOIAF very often have epithets, almost unrealistically so compared to real life history.
>Are you moronic? Kings and nobles in ASOIAF very often have epithets
People have middle names, too. Sometimes quite a few. What's your point? Aegon is still Aegon along with Aegon and Aegon and Aegon. Because one is styled "The Fantabulously homosexualic" is all well and good but if that does not translate to a meaningful distinction in common practice (both within the story and to the reader) then it's pointless.
>t. probably lives in some shitty county that may or may not be the UK with a rigid class structure and stifling cultural norms and half the people are named Muhammad.
tolkientoddlers be like just bungo bingo bambo my shit up
GRRM literally has page after page of Xaro Xon Xaxoses and Xingo Zam bin Visbongs for "eastern" characters. He just has selective autism because as he becomes obsessed with something the odds increase exponentially of him making some glaringly stupid decision that he misconstrues as genius (or maybe does it for trolling).
The "seasons that last for years" was this kind of stupidity. You're just supposed to nod and accept it. The problem is that in books that's a lot easier than a TV show. I love how the gay moronic HBO show referred to the Green's "Aegon Targaryen" as "Aegon the King" during his coronation. They didn't actually mention his name. Even they know how stupid and antithetical to storytelling it is.
>I love how the gay moronic HBO show referred to the Green's "Aegon Targaryen" as "Aegon the King" during his coronation. They didn't actually mention his name. Even they know how stupid and antithetical to storytelling it is.
Aegon the 3rd or 4th iirc.
the name thing is the least problematic
>the name thing is the least problematic
Only because the show ignores / side-steps it, which they will continue to do until they outright retcon/subvert it by using nicknames which will become the characters defacto name when he should have just done it that way from jump street. The books get around it by not actually being narrative prose fiction covering the Dance. They're fake histories narrated by a fake historian, so he doesn't have to bother with his moronation playing-out in the world he created. He's able to hand-wave it until he wants you to nod along again.
>i have no idea what you're tryng to say
This is Cinemaphile in 2023. There is an 80%+ chance of you being culturally foreign or ESL or both.
no, you replied to a post about Baggins genealogy with an incoherent contextless response.
i have no idea what you're tryng to say
>Esmeralda
Hispanic influenced confirmed.
wait what merry and pippin were related?
merry pippin bilbo and frodo are all cousins
Kissing cousins, in fact.
Oh hey, it's the name autist guy again
What variant of autism is this?
It's like they were placeholder names that he just decided to keep.
This, every Bong town has a street or lot called Northgate, Eastgate, Southgate and Westgate with businesses on it named the same because a gajillion years ago those were the gates to the town, medival Black folk were just lazy af
You don't really have time to be creative when you have a wife and 4 kids and are trying not to starve to death.
Those names work just fine, I don't see the issue.
the road to were king live
>kingsroad
ITT: seething lord of the rings chuds
>12 years to write a book with these names
lmao
lurk more
never understood how combining chad and stud was supposed to be an insult
Try getting help for those insecurity issues, George.
lost
Tolkien did the same thing, he just was more inclined to use less common English words (e.g. Rivendell) or invented elvish words that also have a clear meaning. It's only hack fantasy authors that just name something Careubethez'ael and don't think at all about etymology.
>England
>It's the land where the Engs are at
>Scotland
>It's the land where the Scots are at
>Ireland
>It's the land where the Ires are at
>New Jersey
>It's the land where a fat American could take your history and make cool fan fiction
Does this anger foreign peasants or do they just act smug to save face? If I was from Who-fricking-cares-istan and had no freedom to do cool things like this and I could only post on Cinemaphile I think it would make me really resentful of Americans.
You're on Cinemaphile, and no we're not resentful of Cinemaphileners.
>poland
>land of poo
Capitalisation is important, fren. There is a serious distinction between using chemicals to remove polish and using chemicals to remove Polish.
>Land of people who work as janitors
>Polish people
da fug are Engs and Ires
englos and irish
who calls them that
>character is a devilish rogue archetype
>Daemon
>has an opposite faction counterpart
>Aemond
WOAH
>it's like a new version of the city of York
>name it New York
What a bunch of hacks.
>people from England conquer new area
>name it New England
Do they really expect us to buy this shit?
>England isnt even original was conquered by people called Anglos from Angloland
It’s the same shitty story just repackaged and they didn’t even bother to change then name
>also Asturias Australia and Austria?
Give me a break, come on you can be a little more creative than that
BRAVO
bravo indeed
I. FRICKING> LOVE! INLAND SEAS???
>was expecting an educated cartography analysis
>it's just some 12 year old screeching about nothing
Westeros has some genuine effort put into it, East continent has bits and pieces that are ok...but then he ran out of room. The rest is just low effort garbage because he realized he almost made a full globe and thus circumnavigation should be a thing.
And dont get me started on how the Shivering Sea should not only be navigable, but a bustling trade rout of its own. Because instead of it being like the Artic in preindustrial times, its more like the Antartic, but without a full circle of water flow, so even smoother sailing.
Imagine if Russia's northern border was perfectly sailable all year round. So yeah, not enough thought went into making that map.
But why? Most of Essos’ population centers are located in the south of the continent and they can already get to Qarth and not-China by the Summer Sea. It’s never confirmed what lies beyond the map in Essos so we have no idea if there is an outlet to the south or if the continent ends after that. There’s savages like the Dothraki, Jogos Nhai, and also the cannibal fish people in the thousand islands
The Ibbenese use it for whaling and that but otherwise why would anyone want to travel it
maybe you should look up medieval cartography brainleto
Except this place has had a minimum of 2000 years of continual documentation. One consequence of typical fantasy settings is there is no excuse for a lack of near global maps, the civilizations are too old and too continual. Any collapses were temporary lapses and regionalized.
Not to mention several hundreds years of having dragons around.
I don't honestly blame the maesters of Westeros for having such limited knowledge of the far east. The further you go in that direction the more likely you are to be kidnapped by slavers or killed by a barbarian horde. Westeros isn't a safe place. It's dangerous, expensive, and it could take months or years to undertake such journeys.
>Westeros
Meant Essos
Black person, there were dragons in the past. They'd have mapped the entire planet from the air, with no threats to them, which would have passed on to the current leadership. They wouldn't be counting on poorly drawn geusstimates from ship captains and traders, they could SEE the shape of the continents and where rivers and mountains and coasts are.
That those maps don't exist is just another bullet point on how bad an author GRRM is. He spent more effort on a passage of a woman having diahhrea than thinking about what impact having fricking FLIGHT in a medeival setting would have.
iirc he actually did mention that someone on a dragon once flew over Southeros and turns out its fricking HUGE and just keeps on going south for ages
since Westeros is a massive planet, does that mean it's less dense, since it seems to have similar gravity to Earth?
since it seems to have a normal 24 hour day, does that also mean it spins much faster?
since it seems to have a moon that looks similar to ours, does that mean their moon is actually much bigger since it'd have to be proportionally bigger to match Westeros' bigger size?
How do you know about gravity? Are character heights given? What about time?
Tt means GRRM has no sense of scale and doesn't care
This is the guy who made the Wall 700ft tall without even checking how big that is.
>you realise basically all of them have real world counterparts?
Not really. Most ASOIAF cultures are just surface level stereotypes and vague aesthetics but nothing else beyond that.
Shit like the Dothraki eating horses exclusively is a laughable attempt at making a Mongol-adjacent culture. Or the Ironborn's bizarre raiding tradition that's been outlawed for centuries yet they're all still obsessed with it (the islands also don't have trees lol)
Ironborn still do raid just in smaller amounts
There’s also the whole lawless area of the stepstones that they can easily reach and it’s implied a lot of them go there to raid
>Not really.
The cry of cope.
>a laughable attempt at making a Mongol-adjacent culture
You assumed Dothraki are Mongols as though they were the only horse lords from history? Oh my sweet summer child... Your Y-DNA (assuming you aren't a lesser no euro) has no trace left of the First European Farmers for a reason, long before the "Mongols".
>Or the Ironborn's bizarre raiding tradition that's been outlawed for centuries
WTF? You think piracy isn't illegal now? The Iron Islands are based on the islands north of Britain. Not many trees there either but they get wood from trade. "lol".
>You assumed Dothraki are Mongols as though they were the only horse lords from history?
No, because GRRM himself described them as a mix of Steppe/Native American himself. But he failed.
No he didn't. He threw in a bunch of cultures as examples amongst many. But you just said "Mongols" so you clearly didn't know anything else until you googled it just then.
Black person he wrote a nomad culture that eats nothing but horse meat and you're here white knighting him
Just stop and think about how moronic that is
My haplogroup is I1. I am not one of you indo Black folk
this is addressed in the books themselves with Jaenara Belaerys exploring Sothorious on dragonback for three years and it's the opposite of what you say
The idea that someone would be in the position of just getting on a dragon and engage in years long expeditions with no monetary motivation just to map the world for the sake of it is ridiculous
Civilizations have accurate maps of the nearby world they have contact with
>no threats to them
famine, scorpion bolts, weather, time, disease,
moron, accurate maps made people fricking wealthy beyond imagination in our history. Accurate maps were literal gold to traders. Accurate maps were the most valuable thing on ships. Stop being this fricking ignorant and sucking on a fat, lazy old man's grey haired ballsack, you fricking freak.
again, you are talking about a completely different period than the one in the setting
And as I already said the books address your nitpicky issue several times, by means of examples of failed expeditions or expeditions revealing the unknown world to be worthless dangerous wasteland
Were you farting, or trying to have a point? Because mostly all I hear is fart noises coming from you.
He made a very good point and all you had to respond with was petulance.
>Because mostly all I hear is fart noises coming from you.
>I go hard with the bantz everyone in my village says I'm cool
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
>muh accurate maps
You would be blown away if you knew how many things are "obvious" in retrospect because they seem so indispensable but are actually things that needed their utility demonstrated first before people would accept it. There are entire continents of people who would discover basic shit like THE WHEEL and then shrug and keep doing whatever without rolling things.
Gilly thought Sam was a wizard because he could read. In fact, using "talking leaves" to communicate with oracles and spirits is basically magic and that's what reading is.
Mesoamericans had wheels on children's toys but....
For the entire run of both the show and the books being considered great, flying on dragons was only referenced. Never shown. Dragonriding, just like talking ravens and moving statues and lots of other things are all fine so long as you're never so foolish as to actually show it. Dumb nerd shit should always be "tell don't show" since the audience has to use their imagination and fill in the blanks themselves.
We might think we want to see attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion and C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate because that sounds frickInG BaDdAsS but those things would have ruined Blade Runner most likely. The film works as much because of what it doesn't show rather than what it does. HBO forgot this about halfway through GoT run.
I didn't say anything about showing dragon riding, you dumb motherfricker, and you're wrong because the new show on HBO that shows dragonriding was a massive hit.
But mostly stop running your moronic mouth, because my point is that a culture with that many dragons - not singular, MANY dragons, generations of them - would have mapped the land. And those maps would have been copied, and most lords would have them. But they don't, because GRRM's fat lazy ass didn't think through the implications of flight in a quasi-medeival setting. The meastors, or whatever the frick you call them, had the collected wisdom of the eras of dragonriding, but not the accounts of riders who flew up, looked down, and said "So that's what the coast looks like".
It's pants on head moronic writing, and you're pants on head moronic defending that fat pig's laziness.
Flight had a PROFOUND effect on our world. But durrr herrrr, Westeros be dumb and shit, look BOOBA BEST SHOW EVER
lazy royalty were riding dragons, not cartographers. If the Targaryrens werent moronic they'd still be in charge. They never intelligently used their dragons in the first place.
the funniest thing about his posts is not his historical ignorance or the rabid name calling or the disregard for any actual information from lore, but his idea that "just flying" would quasi-magically result in accurate maps as if it was google earth
this would be like the 80s when they were trying to find a Saudi prince to fight with the Afghan Mujahideen for PR purposes, best they could do was a middle son of the tenth wife of a construction contractor.
Even if the Valyrians did try to map the world their civilization was destroyed and most of their achievements and knowledge with it. In the end only one family had any dragons and they had moved to Westeros. They were busy conquering and ruling new lands.
>and you're wrong because the new show on HBO that shows dragonriding was a massive hit.
They actually had to change it and give them saddles, thus proving my point that it's basically moronic. They literally fricked it up the first time they tried.
You sound mad about things. Like someone from a country that didn't invent flight or a lot of things and you're pissed. Maybe you could try calming down and reading the material and then you'd realize, for instance, that the Maester's hated magic thus they hated dragons because dragons are fricking magic.
Magic is really gay and dumb. Game of Thrones was only good insofar as it pumped the brakes on the dump fantasy shit. The moment they went full moron instead of half moron they were doomed. Not surprising that the show is a "massive hit". Lots of dumb soap operas get popular .
Then what you do, is acquire maps from people who frequent that area.
I remember seeing maps of the Jade Sea making it seem fricking enormous with the Jade Gates being something like a a Bosporus straits deal but on the other side was a sea that was bigger than the Med and the Black sea combined. But really it was just slightly more blob land.
Look at Earth's history. Most maps were made from a combination of guesswork and outright bullshit. Even if someone handed over a map (they didn't do this, most explorer's maps were crown/state secrets) you had five others that were completely made up with no way to know what was real until you sent a group of ships there. If you look at most of the firsts in the European Age of Discovery they were not the first to attempt to go to that area - but everyone else disappeared eg Mansa Musa's predecessor was said to have led a fleet to cross the Atlantic that was never seen again.
>I remember seeing maps of
All his maps are sketched on standard notebook/printer paper and used for reference. This causes all the landmasses to quite naturally begin to resemble rectangles attached side by side as he traces the continent shapes along the margins to maximize useful interior space for stuff he needs to reference (cities, roads, landmarks, etc).
The people who make the maps are working off his notes while being naturally deferential to the fat man instead of noticing why his notes look the way they do in the first place. This doesn't even get into the issue of medieval cartography and the point of view of the characters living in a medieval context being flawed.
>no, you replied to a post about Baggins genealogy with an incoherent contextless response.
Have you read the books? If not, you wouldn't get it as there are far fewer named characters when you just watch the show(s). Also, post nation and skin tone please so we can establish "context" for your confusion.
>Have you read the books? If not, you wouldn't get it as there are far fewer named characters when you just watch the show(s). Also, post nation and skin tone please so we can establish "context" for your confusion.
why are you guarding the meaning of your post as if it was your maidenhead?
Just tell us what is "selectively autistic" in your opinion
>us
Imagine feeling like you have to use that word to desperately assert your "social" dominance in a Cinemaphile thread. Just... imagine being so foreign and insecure. Some moron tourist from the UK or Europe or whereverthefrick probably barely communicates in English much less gets cultural nuance goes around trying to save face and "troll" just like the lulzy American he worships but pretends not to.
Just... imagine it. lol >us
Frick outta here with that. Where do you think you are?
I said us because I'm pretgty sure nobody has any idea what you were on about, as evidenced by the lack of replies to the bulk of your post
At this point, I'm just gonna tell you to take your meds and give up
>announces he's "giving up"
You post like a child and an insecure one at that. I'm sorry Cinemaphile lacks "upvotes" to help you understand what the groupthink consensus should be on every post, leaving you to fixate on posts you don't understand as somehow being "against us". You seem like someone who would benefit from Facebook or Reddit. However...
>what you were on about
Ok, so you're British. This is why you're insecure and moronic and have no idea what this place is or how it works or how you should interact. You're just here because Cinemaphile is "anonymous" and your shithole country has no protected speech.
meds
Is that what we think? How are us sure?
there's no global maps because global travel is prohibitive and for all involved, uninteresting.
It had nothing to do with continuity or collapses even in real life.
Moreover, time is not a factor if it's a stagnant technological setting, in fact it makes things worse by means of disbelieving past accounts with no concrete means of verifying the information.
>there's no global maps because global travel is prohibitive
Not when you can FLY, you mouthbreathing moron.
how far?
>there's no global maps because global travel is prohibitive and for all involved, uninteresting.
>with no concrete means of verifying the information.
You fricking dumbass. The moment global trade is possible it happens. Both of you are just dumbasses
>The moment global trade is possible
but it isn't in the setting, they don't even have caravel equivalents only galleys and dromons
Trade works similarly to pre-AoD real world with intermediate trade routes by different actors
There is trade with the Jade Sea regions which is why it's mapped
>inb4 trade by dragon hauling goods
moron, there was massive trade around the Mediterranian on REED fricking boats. Stop being this fricking dumb, and being a big, farting from the mouth neckbeard on the internet. There were vast trade routes along the Silk Road, by horse and by FOOT.
>moron, there was massive trade around the Mediterranian on REED fricking boats.
Yes, and they have "massive trade" on open oceans with galleys which isn't even realistic
Not sure what you're trying to say, as the setting has less realistic trade and travel (much easier) and more accurate maps than the real world equivalent at the time
my point was making (accurate) maps in medieval times is very difficult hence why le rectangles and why westeros is more defined than the other continents and why scale is unclear
>my point was making (accurate) maps in medieval times is very difficult
Not to mention pointless to most people most of the time. A technically abhorrent hand-drawn map or caricature like those artistic maps for amusement parks are more interpretable to humans who quite literally have brains more adapted to interpreting reality in more animistic terms. If you're white and first world, you have a different brain from homosexuals who lived 500 years ago or more.
>humans who quite literally have brains more adapted to interpreting reality in more animistic terms. If you're white and first world, you have a different brain from homosexuals who lived 500 years ago or more.
This is so moronic I don't even know where to start. Humans have been more or less anatomically identical for ~200 thousand years now
>Humans have been more or less anatomically identical for ~200 thousand years now
Holy frick you are ignorant.
Go ahead and provide literally any source for humans 500 years ago having substantially different brains to us today lmao
you are as moronic as he is
>It's some moronic drunk Bong or Yurogay thinks every post is the same anon he's arguing with episode
consider the african
that's not even true for the past 100 years, let alone 200,000 which is a long fricking time. You seem like someone who thinks he's way smarter than he is, especially when drunk, which considering it's drunk Yuropoor hours that figures.
Again, go ahead and provide literally any source for that claim
No.
You're just going to have to take my word for it just like you consume my country's culture and our products and exist in the world we shape while you are irrelevant. Or don't take my word for it and get mad and seethe.
>The entire world hates you for what your israeli government has inflicted on the world.
Like I give a frick. You get what you deserve and you're afflicted with what you allow. Here's an idea: if you hate America so much maybe don't post on a message board created by Americans about American things and use American slang while trying to make like you're not obsessed.
I'm thinking maybe you don't hate America. I'm thinking maybe you hate yourself and your own shithole country but you're so backwards and repressed and proud that you *can't* blame your own shitty culture and you HAVE to blame America. Meanwhile, your leaders like it this way because it keeps you in line like a good cucked peasant.
We fricking own you. You are some kind of Americanized peasant golem crying with no freedoms and no future and all you want is America to invade and fix your shithole but sadly America decided to invade and turn you gay instead because woops turns out nobody wants passive peasants in their future oopsie look on the bright side we'll just sterilize you whereas Chang or Ivan would straight up murder you
oh my god
>a giant wall
>The Wall
frickING HACK!!1
>it's a really good wall on the border of China
>Great Wall of China
Really? Really?
>country with glaciers and freezing climate
>named Iceland
But Iceland has a bunch of greenery and forests, it was named Iceland to trick the moronic scandis into not going there, they named the ice country Greenland instead. Get it? Should I go slower?
redditors really make the most horrible posts
>I’ve been proved to be a fricking moron but I’ll just call him a Reddit gay making it all better
Do a flip dummy.
The only moron here is you. Fricking everyone has seen those pics juxtaposing Greenland and Iceland and their names. You're not some fricking comedic genius for reposting old shit like you were the first one to come up with it. That's why you're a fricking redditor, because stealing shit and claiming you came up with it is all they ever do.
the climate was different back then
Thats a lie though. Iceland is named for their big glaciers. Greenland is named during the medieval warm period, so it used to have lots of green farmland.
Crazy how Greenland was settled for hundreds of years. Small population but was probably comfy
>comfy
Haha, no
In the very early years you could grow barey and raise livestock, people also traded ivory and built a church, but winters were still long, cold, and dark, all firewood had to be imported, and even during the medieval warm period they would have lived a very meagre, subsistence level life.
As the climate cooled, they could no longer grow wheat. Then the animals died. Then those skrælingar, those heathens who eat seals and don’t need livestock or have fires or rely on imports from norway, start getting more bold. They start carrying off people in the night, doing god knows what. All the while you’re beginning to starve. The bishop flees. Less boats come from norway every year. The frost creeps closer until you’re one of a few farms clinging to life against the elements and foreign savages. It was meagre at best and apocalyptic at worst
This is the most moronic post I've seen today
>Here comes Greenland!
dont look up greenland suicide rate
>Those are rookie numbers.
also
>yes I'll put my name on Howard the Duck just because someone working on it is a friend of mine
It should be normal for place names to actually make sense in your native language if your people have lived there for hundreds of years, unless they were named after some regional slang that has gone out of use
>metal hard to obtain in a different planet
>Unobtainium
>Character is the only one that seems to frighten the main character
>Bane
>Newport
>Its a port that was newer than the old one
Holy shit people were moronic back then
>incomplete work
he would be the expert on that topic
heh
>Doesn't give a frick about the basics of geography.
>Doesn't give a frick about the basics of linguistics.
>Doesn't give a frick about the basics of logistics.
>Doesn't give a frick about the basics of warfare.
>Has actually next to no knowledge about how feudalism and Medieval societies worked.
BUT WE NEED FRICKING! WITHOUT FRICKING THE STORY IS INCOMPLETE! ESPECIALLY INCEST!
he's at bare minimum a spiritual coomer
AND SHITTING
THE MORE SHE DRANK THE MORE SHE SHAT WHILE GETTING FRICKED IN THE ASS
AND BIGMANIUS' BIG MAN WEINER FRICKED HER FART HOLE IN THE POOPFRICK RITUAL WHICH CAUSED [editors note, to be continued in the new show at 8pm/9pm central]
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
Truly awe inspiring.
>place where diarrhea happens
>Diarrheatown
Yes, that's usually how it happens in real life.
Ports-Mouth
GRRMs worldbuilding is absolute dogshit but his names really aren't the problem. It's more the fact that all his nations and cultures are lazy stereotypes, incoherent nonsense, completely non-functional or just his fetishes
I was really disappointed that the show didn't faithfully adapt the city where every woman walked around with her left tit hanging out.
My personal favorite is heading south to Dorne where you'll find a land of sexy exotic brown women with very liberal attitudes towards promiscuous sex, and if you head even further south you'll find the Summer Islands - a land full of sexy exotic brown women who literally WORSHIP sex.
>My personal favorite is heading south to Dorne
Dornish are cringe. Every time I hear a thick hispanic accent utter the name "Planky Town" Im overcome with a wave of cringe as-if some non-American just posted on Cinemaphile with some American slang and American memes. Same level of awkwardness.
Yeh that was way too lame. Could have understood better if it was detached from Westeros bu close enough for some interaction like Iberia but yeah... it sucked.
The Dornish are not brown, they have olive skin.
what do you think makes mexic**ts brown instead of red?
which nation and/or culture do you take issue with?
Basically all of them.
Iron Islands are moronic.
Slavers Bay is moronic.
Dothraki are giga-moronic.
you realise basically all of them have real world counterparts? GoT is basically a way to have civilizations across time interact with each other?
>but his names really aren't the problem.
For now, because GoT could avoid it since it wasn't main plot and the books could avoid it by not actually being written as novels. Wait until S2 of House of the Dragon to see if the autists have the courage of their convictions or if one or both Aegons suddenly acquire nicknames that for all intensive purposes become their actual names as having Aegon be a diamond dozen name is bad storytelling when you actually have to use those characters.
Wait til you get a geography book and see how many places are called the same.
This thread would have been funnier if everyone posted soijaks with their greentexts
Asoiaf > l*tr
That Martin quote is absolute midwitery
One took part in one of the most brutal, senseless slaughters in human history, and survived.
The other dodged the draft, even though he wouldn't be sent to Vietnam due to his obesity, and also simped for a political system which imprisoned people in gulags and work camps.
tolkientards dont even know that he avoided service until he could get a cushy station as an officer lmao
A fat obese man who’s never seen war vs a man who actually fought in the most brutal war of all time. Interesting.
GRRM faced nothing more difficult in his life than all-you-can-eat buffets kicking him out after 6 plates, whereas Tolkien fought in the trenches in WW1.
Tolkien's conclusions as to what to do in the face of cultural decay and collapse are useful and inspiring. Fight on, continue life, create things of beauty, never give up hope.
>GRRM *is* cultural decay personified
>GRRM faced nothing more difficult in his life than all-you-can-eat buffets kicking him out after 6 plates, whereas Tolkien fought in the trenches in WW1.
maybe you don't know what GRRM has gone through because he doesn't cry to the press about every little trauma like Tolkien did
Bas3d. Made all the tolkein boomers shit their diapers
Tolkchuds on suicide watch
>westeros
>not even west
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>place where snow falls a lot
>winterfell
>rocky mountain with a castle
>casterly rock
The place where grasslands stretch off to the horizon.
>The grass sea
A place where people walk a lot.
>The steppes
Zero imagination.
A fortification constructed of charcoal-coloured materials
>Castle Black
AGOT CK2 mod is still the best thing to come out of his legacy
CK3 mod is pretty good but it’ll be years until it’s at the same content level
>AGOT CK2 mod is still the best thing to come out of his legacy
>CK3 mod is pretty good but it’ll be years until it’s at the same content level
the place where its always stormy and they built a castle
>storm hold
Place where homosexuals congregate
>Cinemaphile television and film
ITT: morons who apparently don't understand how names work in real life
>The place where the king landed in his dragon
Wasn't that Dragonstone? KL was the new city that emerged around the Red Keep
The hatred for George will never not be hilarious. You can tell how petty and buttblasted his detractors are too.
He is literally their Boogeyman. The Fat Man.
He even invaded their favourite video-game line lmfao.
I don't hate him, but he is very fricking moronic.
The guy excels at writing interesting, nuanced characters with believable arcs. Someone like Jaime Lannister who is arguably his best work.
But the guy has absolutely no idea how to write large worlds, or huge interconnected stories, or D E E P L O R E., and it's painfully obvious that he's in way over his head with ASOIAF. It's just a case of his ambition far FAR outscaling his actual talent.
>The hatred for George will never not be hilarious. You can tell how petty and buttblasted his detractors are too.
I'm just mad that he conned me into getting invested in a series that will never be finished.
>George sucks at math and numbers and scalings waaaaaah
Meanwhile… In history…
>OMG THE MONGOLS TOOK OUT 1.7 MILLION SANDBlack folk, THATS LKE 300 SANDBlack folk PER MINUTE, NOOOOOOOO, THE BARBARITY
If anything it is even more realistic. Humans are moronic. Everything is written from a POV view too. The Wall wasn’t literally made 10,000 years ago, even according to the maesters.
>even according to the maesters.
but maesters are shown to be wrong about most things
the meta-lore is that all the seemingly folkloristic figures and legends are actually true
the meta-meta-lore is that it was made up by GRRM
>family lives in a high tower
>named Hightowers
>we need to name a place
>NAME OF FOUNDING FATHER, RANDOM EUROPEAN CITY, OR RANDOM INDIAN NAME BRO
>we need to seem cool on the internet
>lets just post American-style memes using American slang about an American TV show on a board created by Americans
>those Americans will surely be demoralized now that we've proven how we're not obsessed and definitely not mad
The entire world hates you for what your israeli government has inflicted on the world. We are not "trying to seem cool" we genuinely hate you. We are not "trying to demoralize you" (like that's necessary with your collapsing shithole). Literally just take power and stop the homosexual imperialism then. Just do it homosexual.
not him but the reason you're a pathetic loser is because you blame everything on da jooz, there is literally nothing stopping you from asserting your own agency and power but for your passive loser mindset you've indoctrinated yourself with
Reminder that Winds of Winter is never coming out and that the series will never be finished
Winds of Winter will be out within the next two years. It's A Dream of Spring that's never coming out.
Makes perfect sense. Local industrial area in my town is still called "Executioner's Hill".
>Hmm, I need to come up with a name for the setting of Elden Ring, but Middle-earth is already taken.
>I got it! The Lands Between!
>Man, I am such a good writer.
I bet my ass he tried Midland first but someone told him or he googled and discovered Berserk already uses it
>character is into coprophilia
>names him THE DUNG EATER
every single major character in Elden Ring has a name that starts with either G, R or M.
>land of the angles
>england