Genuinely don’t understand how this became a thing
Indians do own a lot of corner stores. Same as East Asians. They also often speak in heavily accented english
Why is this some horrible stereotype that’s killing people?
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Actually now that I think about it, isn't it more problematic to suggest that these are bad stereotypes? What's wrong with having an accent?
Take note of the fact the all this from the man of the documentary was a nobody, and though this and himself was panned and mocked and given the fairmans treatment, he still won with the utilization of the woke card.
The media and folks without a doubt or care only to be patrollers of the annoying PC crowd and everything just took his word with “apu bad, impressions of other people across the world bad” makes it a scene to just witness in dumbfounded appallment
What's your first language BTW?
English, I’m in a crisis with all of this and language and speech
>English, I’m in a crisis with all of this and language and speech
I think everything in your first post was perfectly understandable if slightly broken, but I don't know how to interpret this. Are you saying you're in a mental crisis?
Non whites don’t have accents chud. White boys and their dumbass accents are the issue
>What's wrong with having an accent?
Those outrages are always caused by white sheltered anglo women that never even learned a second language to begin with so all they say about immigrants and other minorities is bullshit they have no fricking idea about.
They also pull that shit with mental illnesses and shit, like prohibiting media from associating autism with anything bad when every autist will tell you about the issues they have and how impossible it is for them to socialize. They same people will also complain about stereotypes but force all non-whites or gays into the same so-called flawless stereotypes like the "voice of reason" and other shitty roles that nobody likes.
>every autist will tell you about the issues they have and how impossible it is for them to socialize
No, a few I've spoken to think that being autistic is superior, that neurotypicals are fundamentally irrational, and that cognitive empathy is a delusion. Not most, but some, and it's such a fundamentally autistic viewpoint that it must be original to them.
is it just me, or do indians get a lot of positions of power in media nowadays? as well as social media and tech... i wonder why that is
is there a sudden influx of indians in america? or are they just being used as a puppet of sort
is 'designated company pet indian' gonna become a new meme? cause im starting to see it
as someone who's currently trying to get a us visa, indians are flooding into us like crazy and taking up all the spots because there's so fricking much of them. their country is a total shithole where regardless of the position they're going to get paid pennies, but a lot of them are intelligent and talented.
but also yes, companies like showing off how not racist they are.
interesting
im not american but i did notice most of the companies i know as well as overseas ones i have contact with "suddenly" hiring new Indian managers/CEOs
Indians heard about israeli stereoypes and said "that rocks". They're also hilariously racist but still adept at using the language and dynamics of antiracism to advance themselves and their kin while displacing competition. With a couple exceptions, every Indian I've ever met thats identified as a Brahmin has been a complete c**t, all very tall tho
There are a lot of Indians, is probably the main reason.
Plus many of them are willing to work for shit pay.
Affirmative action.
Affirmative action actually hurts Asians and Indians. They're considered a privileged class by the government in that specific context. But not in the context of minority-targeted business loans, for some reason.
It's just you dude. I've never heard a take so wrong. compelte confirmation bias to think indians are the ones winning rn.
>to think indians are the ones winning rn.
anon said indians are common in position of power, not that theyre, to quote you, """"winning""""
you seem like the kinda person who is incapable of viewing the world through any lense beyond 'winning' or, most likely, 'privilege', and are completely unable to into complex concepts
Chinese and Indian immigrant families tend to push their kids really hard. They come to America for opportunity and find absolute shit so they take crappy jobs. They have kids and push the everloving shit out of them to excel in academics because they know that will give them more opportunities. Said kids then go into fields such as engineering/medicine/computer science/etc.
People then look at the influx of Asian/Indian individuals in those fields and blame affirmative action.
You're right...there are more Indians in positions of power in various industries these days, but it has more to do with busting ass from a young age than any sort of rigged system.
I don't know about Indians, but I always thought the Chinese pushing their kids so hard academically was a cultural repercussion of the whole imperial exam thing, and nothing to do with immigrants to western nations.
Nothing deriving from, I guess I better clarify
yes but that very obvious answer has fallen out of vogue because it implies that there is something about the Chinese that makes them successful before they arrive and that makes some people's inferiority complexes act up.
Nope, Chinese are successful in america because they push their kids hard because america sucks.
Bring Apu back as a code monkey with a fake degree. Update the character for the times.
>Update the characters by giving him the origin he had back in the early 90s
> genuinely don’t understand
I think the real problem is you and the rest of Cinemaphile have such poor social skills that you’re still harping on about this years later.
>why is Cinemaphile talking about something who's aftereffects are still causing problems today?
>must be because they're a bunch of autistic shut ins and nothing else
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This is how it went down
>Some Indian kids get bullied in school for being different
>Are called Apu as he's the most culturally relevant Indian to most kids
>One of these Indian kids becomes a mediocre comedian
>Decides to use the fact he was called Apu in a derogatory way to make some attention seeking documentary about Apu being a bad stereotype
>Doesn't actually hate Apu, he likes the Simpsons but still wants the attention and hopefully to be given a chance to voice the character so Apu has an "authentic" Indian voice
>Instead Apu is just removed from the show, the result that no one wanted
>Are called Apu as he's the most culturally relevant Indian to most kids
this is pretty much how all 'slurs' and other 'offensive' terms start out
>be not offensive
>become old and/or get used in an offensive matter occasionally by dumb kids
>become offensive
>get switched to something new
>new term repeats the cycle
nothing is offensive until it is, words like "Black" "spastic" "indian (american)" "moronic" etc didnt start out as offensive, they became that way because idiots were using em to make fun of someone, or they just got old is all
I agree with the form the cycle takes, but not that it's perpetuated by children. Any identifier commonly used in anger or derision becomes a slur over time, that's just how language works, but it's not little kids or occasional usage that made Germans take offence at being called cabbages for example, it was millions of men with guns. It's dicey to call a German a kraut to this day, yet the English and French merrily call each other roast beef and frogs respectively even though it's the exact same thing, because there hasn't been the hatred to give it meaning for a couple centuries or so.
So what the frick was he hoping for? He doesn’t have an Indian-American accent
If he was cast as apu was he just gonna do a fake accent same as Hank Azaria? What’s the difference then?
The Simpsons has been a soulless husk for many years so another small piece of it collapsing into dust is better than this homosexual getting a job from racial blackmail.
>Doesn't actually hate Apu, he likes the Simpsons but still wants the attention and hopefully to be given a chance to voice the character so Apu has an "authentic" Indian voice
can someone explain to me why this matters
would this actually lead to less Indian kids being called apu?
>Genuinely don’t understand how this became a thing
The indian kid in the pic wanted to voice Apu, Simpsons decided to just retire the character and the kid never cared (nor did anyone else) ever again
>Minority complaining about racism makes the Simpsons whiter.
Still laughing.
Gee it's almost like it was manufactured outrage or something
Oh well better ban the entire world to please the brown people
Indians never complained about him
It was the PC mutts
The OP is literally a whole documentary of an Indian complaining
Wrong, an American who identifies as indian complained about him.
>that's killing people
That wasn't what was being said you dishonest moron. The problem was that the only pop culture figure Indians had at the time was Apu and he shaped perceptions and expectations in such a way that directors would tell Indian actors to sound like Apu. The kicker is that Apu's voice is a white man's impression of an older white guy's Indian impression. The point of the documentary is that the damage has been done, we're doing better now and Apu is proof that representation matters.
Apu being "quietly retired" from The Simpsons happened two years before the documentary came out. He didn't change anything.
>Apu is proof that representation matters.
If you can shape expectations and perceptions this greatly with a side character, you've proven representation matters. It's not even a controversial opinion, even Fox News b***hed about the lack of strong male characters with the success of Frozen.
t. white guy who has never heard an Indian speak English
I've heard them speak on the phone and they make me want to ask "what are your pronouns" because some men are so high-pitched.
Hank Azaria had said in an old interview that his inspiration for the voice was a late show character played by a white guy, it's not about what I think about the voice.
The tightly-knit nepotistic community of voice actors bent the knee to this charlatan, and for that reason I have no sympathy for them getting replaced by AI
They didn't bend the knee, they stopped using Apu two years before this documentary.
It started the whole trend of "non-POC aren't allowed to voice animated characters of color" regardless, even though it's a fricking drawing and the whole point of voice acting is that you can be whatever you want, it doesn't matter what person is sitting behind the microphone in the recording booth, only the quality of their performance
But not anymore
It didn't start it, the liberals behind The Simpsons had been having the conversation about Apu for years before.
>that isn't happening
>even if it is, it's not that bad
>even if it is, it's already happened so why are you even complaining, there's nothing you can do
>and even if it is that bad, you deserve it
What are you talking about? You've been consistently incorrect and you have general gripes about the concept of recasting while pointing to nothing specific.
>acting clueless when your manipulative bullshit is called out, with the purpose of creating self-doubt in the accuser
That isn't going to work this time. You know exactly what you're doing.
>you should just let me spread misinfo while telling you my feelings generally
Not be condescending, but your feeling are valid; there are wokies out there with shitty opinions. The problem is that you aren't being specific, you're just speedrunning the narratives and memes you want to shoehorn everyone who doesn't automatically buy into what you baselessly post.
They've been recasting black characters for over a decade before this, dumbass.
who?
Based
He was mad because kids made fun of his samosas once at the middle school lunch table.
It didn't
It just was a thing made by a moronic racist c**t who wanted some attention
Fricking Akira was far, far more fricking racist but nonobdy cared cause Asian men are fine to mock
Pinche gringo moreno puto, comediante de quinta que nos robó a Apu
>Why is this some horrible stereotype that’s killing people?
Sure is easy to beat arguments against imaginary problems from imaginary people
The worst thing was the show actually fricking acknowledging it in a scene instead of taking the high road
Rich minorities can be just as out of touch as rich whites
It's all decadence, Adult children whose outrage and tantrums are based on whims and wants. Nothing matters except how they feel in the moment.
Black person, complaining about cultural issues is central to geek shit as it reacts to contemporary topics through the decades. For you to say that now it's decadence is dishonest.
>you noticed a pattern
>you should feel bad about noticing patterns
>stop noticing patterns
Spics have seething hatred towards that guy for leading to the retirement of Apu from the show.
Spics embrace stereotypes, specially those made with real "love".
Not with the oye primos shitshow, they are just as snowflake-like than burgers but in a different way.
spics don't love stereotypes, they love a good dub. People like most shows because of the dub alone, it's even a meme that people lack any art skill down here but still have the best dub in the planet.
not dubbed, simple as.
Was Apu even relevant before he dissapeared? There were no more episodes focused on him or his family or his relationship with Homer and the rest of the Simpsons.
Hell, comic book guy got more screentime than him in the zombie era simpson.
He had a very memorable development for a status quo show, from just a clerk they knew on passing, to a family friend, his background as a programmer, that he's not an employee but actually owns the Kwik-E-Mart on springfield after investing on the franchise, his marriage, fatherhood, fall from grace by cheating and recovery.
He was popular enough he was one of the playable characters in Hit and Run and it's a big reason why LatAm places often discuss they hope they never remake that game as it'd be censored to appease "progres gringos".
wasn't he always an owner? Thats the entire reason that indians work at convenience stores, either they own it or they work there for free because their family owns it. The entire 'fired and replaced by James Woods' plotline can sort of be ignored as the Simpsons has never taken its continuity seriously, and even then IRL you can lose your franchise for not following the rules anyways. That episode is a fantastic Apu episode btw.
Apu certainly got a better look than most indian/asian stereotypes of the time as he was portrayed as attractive and successful with women.
>Apu was fired from his job by Kwik-E-Mart HQ after Homer Simpson contracted food poisoning from the Kwik-E-Mart's spoiled meat and failing to "blame [it] on a scapegoat or sacrificial lamb."
POC just need to whine all the time.
Californias, regardless of racial backgrounds, all live in a cultural and economic glasshouse. That is all.
Salty "comedian" was just mad about him existing. American Indians without accents often times get type cast to do accents when they don't even have one, that's the only real problem I see. and it's not that big of a deal even.
I feel like this led to the new way people are racist towards Indians
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