The Problem With Superhero Movies

There are three elements to a good superhero movie. The main character has to 1. Save the day 2. Keep his secret 3. Get some pussy These movies suck now because they forgot this classic formula.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate this formula. I’d argue that superhero movies don’t really work anymore because no one wants to keep the status quo. There is no reason to defend it. Superhero movies don’t work because the villain is right.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate this formula.
      Every good superhero movie follows this formula. Superman '78, Batman Returns, Spider-Man 2 etc.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You haven't cracked anything, which is why you're posting here instead of selling scripts.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          How many scripts have you sold homosexual. Go frick yourself with a rake - sideways.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How many scripts have you sold homosexual.
            How many story formulas have I claimed to crack?

            >Go frick yourself with a rake - sideways.
            Post your list of accepted script submissions, coward.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up, Lex.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Golden age superman didn’t even want to keep the status quo. He was chaotic good. Post WWII American exceptionalism ruined Superman.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Golden age superman didn’t even want to keep the status quo.
          While Golden Age Superman had a lot of social commentary he didn't have a radical critique of American society. He spent time defending the status quo from sinister foreigners and subversive 5th columnists as well as going after corrupt officials and rapacious businessmen.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was radical at the time and he had a blatant disregard for the law in favor of justice. He didn’t go after foreigners just the Italian mob. If I remember correctly one of the creators father was killed by a robber. I Agree with everything else you said after that.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I do think a Golden Age style Superman film could be a big hit. Tone down the powers to start off and have him taking on corruption, Clark Kent crusading journalist and Superman champion of the oppressed. Too bad the next Superman movie is being written by CIA stooge Tom King and will have Superman beating up Middle Eastern terrorists.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would love to see that. Honestly, been dying to see a Superman like that.

                Is that the direction Tom King is going? That’s gonna be disappointing.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Is that the direction Tom King is going? That’s gonna be disappointing.
                It's all rumors but apparently there's going to be a plot about Superman intervening in the Middle East. I think it's just as much Gunn's idea as King's. Gunn seems to be culturally stuck in the early to mid 2000s.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              When did Superman specifically go after the Italian mob? I remember him say, posing as an ESL Coal Miner to trap some Gilded Age style socialites in a guy's unsafe coal mine, and I remember him threatening to tear the heart out of a war profiteer, but that one must've bounced off me.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s never explicit in the comic book just alluded to. You can definitely hear it in the radio version though.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                He goes after racketeering gangs a lot, their ethnicity is never mentioned. Here's some of the villains I remember from reading Golden Age Supes.
                >Corrupt officials
                >War profiteers
                >An oriental hypnotist
                >Arabs working for a mad scientist trying to steal the radium from a lost city in the Sahara.
                >Abusive orphanage proprietors
                >Quack selling fake polio cures
                >Ultra-Humanite who puts his brain in a hot woman's body
                >Lex Luthor doing weird schemes.
                >Various scientists who invent a kid of deadly gas (before the A-bomb a deadly gas was the worst thing anyone could think of)

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wouldn't matter today, no matter what, everything just fails, as if there is something in the water that makes everybody incompetent

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Secret identities are weet ik
    Im glad Marvel threw that out in Iron Man 1

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It worked for RDJ Stark because:
      1. Stark's secret identity shit was always pretty flimsy in the comics, and it felt right for the RDJ version to be like lolwut? and throw away the card.
      2. The secret identity stuff was a good way to explain why heroes like Peter Parker to not spend their life in court justifying their action after the fact. Stark could probably manage the legal shit, and we see him do just that.

      That's why the IRL superhero shit doesn't work. If you COULD conceal your identity, effectively intervene to stop a crime, and GTFOutta there without the cops stopping or finding you, then you could actually do that kind of shit.
      Actually you'll notice comic superheroes need a few basic things:

      1. A way to know crime is actually happening in a timely fashion.
      >super-senses
      >reporter/cop getting up-to-the-minute reports of crimes in progress
      >go on patrol at night, waiting on rooftops

      2. A way to get there in time to intervene.
      >superspeed
      >flight
      >teleportation
      >uber-vehicle
      >webs

      3. Maintain secret identity
      >A way to change into a mask/costume in time, (already wearing it on patrol, quick-change).
      >A way to get away from the police/scene of the crime afterwards, (see 1).
      >Stark used to already be stuck wearing his slimmed-down chestplate at all times to keep his heart beating, and the rest of his armour was collapsed down into his briefcase.

      Normal human beings can't do any of that shit IRL so easily, which is why people who try to be IRL superheroes using the comic book formula just comes off as nuts:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Jones#Arrest_record

      But if you COULD effectively conceal your identity in a situation where you were aware of an actual crime in progress in your vicinity, correctly identify the bad guys, and you DID have the capacity to deal with it, (like even just carrying a concealed weapon of some kind), and then could escape the scene, you could technically fight 'for great justice' in a similar manner.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't disagree with you, but I would like to add something: the anonimity of the hero always struck me as a humility gesture. You do good, but you refuse the praise. You live your ordinary daily life as a normal person.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    dipshit, what the frick do you know

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