The Rocketfellers > Redcoat > Hornsby & Halo > Hyde Street > Gieger > Devour > Rook: Exodus
Lots of talent, lots of fun, and lots of ideas. Overall great start to this new line of comics. I think this could be the start of something bigger than Image was.
How blatant is Hornsby & Halo a Super Sons spiritual successor?
And does it do a good job at it?
It definitely has a "kids growing up and learning responsibility" thing. Their powers are just starting to manifest and there's a lot more going on behind the scenes with the adults. I hadn't thought of Supersons, but it definitely has that vibe now that you mention it. I think Rocketfellers could be seen as a spiritual successor to Tomasi's Superman run but its that mixing with Meet the Robinsons. Tomasi's stuff I'm definitely looking forward to the most.
I doubt it'll be that big. Maybe like mid side of Image. That said it was funny watching some aging snarker still mad at Johns since the 00s insist that Gieger was a failure in some previous thread
>bigger than Image was.
Image was a publisher founded by big names during a time where comics was flourishing
This is an imprint of said publisher founded by guys 10 years past their prime in a post-crash world for comics
I think it'll be decently sufficient as long as everybody keeps things professional
Everyone involved being co-owners could easily backfire the moment irrational, petty unprofessionalism happens
I said it could be the start of something bigger than Image. Meaning its not bigger than Image now, but it could be one day. Their mission statement is to expand and recruit not just current talent, but new talent as well.
The other stuff is wholly original. Hyde Street seems the most interesting universe. Its a horror anthology universe where every series is taking place on the same street but at different time periods. Redcoat's cast is a refreshing hodgepodge of America folklore legends. The more I see of it the more excited for it I get. Hornsby & Halo is a fun coming of age story of an angel and demon being raised by a family of the opposite to keep the balance of good and evil. Devour seems like a ripoff of The Stuff which I am totally there for. I have no idea what the frick Rook is supposed to be, only disappointment in the lot. Overall they all seem much more original than Geiger.
Geiger literally gets called the Nuclear Knight in this. Johns isn't being subtle at all with this stuff and I am more appreciative because of it.
I think if anything at Image ends up bigger than Image or encompassing the company itself, it'll be Skybound, not Ghost Machine.
Skybound's an imprint but its still a greater piece than Ghost Machine will ever be solely because Kirkman's a partner within Image
Image isn't technically even one company, Kirkman, McFarlane, Larsen, Stephenson, Valentino, and Silvestri all work indepently and run their own things but its all under the Image umbrella and all of them are in charge of that "core" company
Stephenson wouldn't touch licenseshit with a 10 foot pole at Image Central but Kirkman has no qualms about it when he runs Skybound
>Image isn't technically even one company
Didn't know this, that's interesting. Explains all the imprints.
You'd be surprised, a lot of people don't understand it. You can see this over the years whenever Youtubers and Youtuber addicts go on here and talk about Image and think of it like IDW or something. It doesn't work like that
Like
said, they each run their parts of Image
McFarlane can't make money from Kirkman's Invincible TPBs and Kirkman can't make money from McFarlane's Spawn TPBs.
Furthermore with Image stuff, creators pay a fee to Image to publish. They also won't be making money on their work until the book is published and sold.
Never heard of it. No chance Jason Fabok and crew don't have jabronis lined up to draw the ongoing series.
But a shared universe designed by artists sign me uo
Geiger was a lot of obvious DC ideas he tweaked enough for original content. Is the other stuff like that or more original
Not him but Jukyard Joe is blatantly G.I. Robot
Well fricking duh, all of this shit was something Johns was obviously originally going to do at DC under his own imprint before it eventually moved to Image.
I really do not understand the appeal of Johns garbage, he's just so utterly boring and mediocre. As bad as Mark Millar is even he can manage to get an emotional rise out of me, it's a negative one sure but at least it's something.
>johns
>millar
>bad
Here's your (You), homosexual.
Millars is a terrible writer, objectively. Shit at basic plot outlines, shit at dialogue, shit at making unique characters. The amount of times he's ended his stories on a deus ex machina out of nowhere makes this painfully obvious. Johns is just your run of the mill uncreative hack, building his entire reputation on existing properities and other writers. Even this supposed "original" universe he created is just DC shit with the serial numbers filed off.
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I'm really hyped for Redcoat, not gonna lie.
all this shit looks so boring and boomery. They need fresh blood and better action. Not a bunch of old looking characters for old dudes.
I agree that comics desperately need new blood but if this can get Marvel/DC capeshitters to branch out, I'm all for it
Once JSA is done I have no Marvel or DC books on my pull.
>Void Rivals
>Transformers
>Duke
>Cobra Commander
>G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero
>Conan The Barbarian
>Zorro: Man of the Dead
I don't even have enough to have a real pull list. I'm going to get all nine Ghost Machine titles, its nice to have things to look forward to each month, but this is a sorry state for comics.
This entire thing is basically "Do you like DC from the time where Johns was the big guy?" and while I don't it's going to be better than current DC which is about appealing to gays and furries and xittertards. But that's damning with faint praise because none of these look interesting.
moron. Lord forbid people enjoy well written comics.
>Geoff Johns
>well written
lol
lmao even
We literally had a storytime of his entire bibliography. There was barely anything bad in there. The worst was his run on The Avengers and post-OYL Teen Titans. Even then it was lightyears ahead of shit published today.
>There was barely anything bad in there
I think you just have incredibly low standards. Rainbow Corp was moronic. Darkseid War was fricking terrible. Even worse when he became ridiculously self-absorbed during his "rip off everything Alan Moore has written" era.
>Well I didn’t three specific stories from 25 years worth of published work so Geoff Johns is a hack! FACT!!!
If a writer has a single bad run Cinemaphile will label them as a hack.
Bro, what the frick else does he have to his name? Other middling capeshit runs? 52 is his main claim to fame and at it's core it's a gimmick run.
What was wrong with Olympus?
It was flat out boring, not a single character worth caring about. It's the kind of plot you wouldn't be surprised to see from a forgettable B-movie action thriller. Even for a eurocomic it's pretty uninspired as far as the writing and concept goes and I've read a ton of em.
>doesn't give a single detail about the comic
Nice larp.
What has it got going on beyond "modern folks come across greek myths" then? The characters are all one-note. The art isn't even particularly good for a eurocomic.
Your criticisms are too generic
>What was wrong about Olympus
>N-n-no t-that doesn't c-c-count!
What else can be said about something so utterly generic? What was particularly memorable about Hot Babe 1, 2, or 3? Or how about Muscular Dude A or B? Surely Evil Pirate X and Y had the makings of iconic characters?
Johns is an awful writer who's only gotten worse with age.
DC really fricked up not letting Johns revamp the originally intended characters. What else were they going to do with GI Robot? Make it a gynoid and make it lame and gay?
Its even funnier now that Gunn is using him for the DCU.
Aside from GI Robot, who were the others going to be if this had been done at DC?
Geiger is Atomic Knight and IIRC Redcoat is Immortal Man
It's been brought up before and Tomasi's stuff here seems to be heading in a spiritual successor stuff for his Superman run and Super Sons
If he is successful and starts making a lot of money, in a deal similar to Millar's, DC mighty be slightly fricked.
>DC mighty be slightly fricked
You can't seriously believe this, can you? DC might suck shit these days but there's no way some shitty imprint by one of their former writers is going to ever give them real competition. The days of publishers like Image popping up are over, the environment just doesn't exist anymore.
Dont forget it is all obscure stuff. Noone will drop Batman or Superman because a not-aromic knight series.
I already have.
(You) are not normal. You dont count, Geoff.
I'm
. I wish I was the Cereal King.
Than you verified my opinion. You dont exchange stuff, you just let it run out. You dont stop ordering JSA and ordering Vereal King comics. You wait till it is over than maybe you buy some of his comics.
>What else were they going to do with GI Robot?
It’s more about who the frick wants to read G.I. Robot comic to make it financially sound to publish such a title.
It looks mega cringe.Kids don't read these kinds of floppyshit comics, the market is going to be only boomers and gen x
Did you come up with that yourself or are you copying something your Youtube Friend Simulator told you
None of these comics will even sell as well as Gen13 did.
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>green lantern was retraded
Okay, you're just a troll. No (You) for you.
Yes, Blackest Night had a bunch of edgy nonsense. I remember reading the shit they did to Firestorm, it was very moronic.
>mooregays still seething that johns made a better watchmen
Kek
>Doomsday wiener
>better Watchmen
excuse me?
>noooo you can't reconstruct what was deconstructed
KYS edgegay.
Who said anything about that moron? Bad writing is bad writing whether it's a deconstruction or a reconstruction. Johns is on the same level as Snyder, a midwit stuck up his own ass that thinks repeating vapid symbolism is deep despite there being no deeper meaning behind said symbolism itself.
But enough about Alan Moore.
So you think Moore's thing but worse and shittier art is somehow better? You could at least try to provide an argument instead of seething about Moore ya know.
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>gary frank is worse than dave gibbons
Yeah, knew you were a troll.
>gary frank is worse than dave gibbons
Yes, substantially so. He's fricking boring and his faces suck. His paneling is still and lifeless, as demonstrated when he tried to copy the grid format of Watchmen without doing much with it. Also the blue tinge color palette fricking blows, again, he's a boring artist. The very definition of "House Style". He doesn't even have a Watchmen or Martha Washington feather in his cap, all he does is extremely mid capeshit.
Who is this imprint supposed to be for? Capeshitters, casuals won't read anything outside of DC and Marvel. Image readers aren't eager to read comics that look like their came from the 2000s, and written by a bunch of jobbers.
Well someone's reading it if they're still publishing it. This doesn't have a safety net like Marvel and DC do.
>I think this could be the start of something bigger than Image was.
place your bets
Bets on what?
>Ghost Machine
They're the comic equivalent of The Expendables except not nearly as bad or painful to look at
They'll serve their own niche catering as an alternative to aging capeshitters who still think Johns as DC's messiah but won't grow past that unless one of their comics pulls an Invincible
>DSTLRY
Nothing has really "wowed" me about their line-up so far but I'd say it's a safer bet they'll publish at least one stand out ongoing title
>FMP
If Ghost Machines is the Expendables, FMP is the movies Steven Seagal stars in when he turns down The Expendables
>DSTLRY
I don't know where these guys shows up, but that company seems a laundery money scheme.
DSTLRY is DOA already, it’ll lip forward for another year or two - tops. FMP is small enough to be a viable vanity publisher for he and Didio. Ghost machine likely won’t survive 5 years.
>DSTLRY is DOA already
what makes you say that? not saying you're wrong or anything
>Ghost machine likely won’t survive 5 years.
they're on image, cant they just coast?
>what makes you say that? not saying you're wrong or anything
not him but half of there youtube videos have sub 100 views,nothing cracks 500, which is INSANE.
I've never even heard of DSTLRY.
This Wednesday.
Who is the biggest name on DSTLRY, Azzarello? Like at least with FMP I know that it's Miller's stuff like a sequel to Ronin, and Ghost Machine at least I remember seeing Geiger and Junkyard Joe on shelves. I don't even know anything else about it other than it's launched by the guys who launched Comixology.
FMP will depend on how well Didio and Miller manage things. If worst comes to worst they could always bring it back over to Dark Horse.
Ghost Machine, there is some kind of following for Geiger/Junkyard Joe but I don't know about the others. I'm not even clear about how their setup works, is it just like early Image where they have a shared universe but each creator owns whichever thing they do? That could run into some issues
The fact that people hated Geoff Lanterns will never not astound me. Are they the same contrarians who wanted Hal to remain as the Spectre?
They feel the whole "it was an evil space bug this whole time" to be a dumb cop-out
It's founded by the guys who made Comixology and they founded the publisher after Amazon gutted it so I don't think they're lacking brain cells (at least for comic publisher standards)
Still, one of them promotes the books on LOCG and even contributes to provided up-to-date information when possible which is nice and all but gives me a worrying feeling on how people within comics are gonna use the site in the future if it gets bigger and more people become dependent on it
>They feel the whole "it was an evil space bug this whole time" to be a dumb cop-out
Did they not read Emerald Twilight?
They did
They just didn't join H.E.A.T.
But HEAT was right in the end.
Is there a story time for this?
No, its not out until next week.
Is it out already?
Ghetto Machine Storytime?
No and no. If the issue isn't ripped on Wednesday I'll do a ghetto storytime, until then you'll have to wait.
Any nudity in it?