>the show starts great but then it declines sharply and never recovers

>the show starts great but then it declines sharply and never recovers
>the show starts weak but then finds its footing and becomes great all the way to the end

Which do you prefer

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the show starts weak but then finds its footing and becomes great all the way to the end

    This never happens with cartoons.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Beavis and Butthead. Hell BB to me is a show that got better with every new season.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Venture Bros morons

        Mostly these.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bojack Horseman?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        HAHAHA

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        season 1 episodes 1 - 4 are weak.
        season 1 episodes 5 onwards are strong.
        season 2 - season 3 are strong.
        season 4 - last season, meh / weak.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Venture Bros morons

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        VB started great

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does anyone genuinely prefer watching a show they love decline? It's always made me completely miserable. Option 2 all the way, worst case I can just watch it in the background until it gets good.

      You could say this about Avatar. The first 10 or so episodes are incredibly forgettable but it's great from the back half of s1 right up to the end.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like I said before, I don't mind if there is a cut point were you can drop a series without feeling incomplete.
        Also, I think ATLA is more like two thirds of a bell curve in terms of quality, s3 isn't bad but it drops a bit from s2.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Simpsons

      https://i.imgur.com/3Wdgmx7.jpg

      >the show starts great but then it declines sharply and never recovers
      >the show starts weak but then finds its footing and becomes great all the way to the end

      Which do you prefer

      Obviously the second one

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, it started weak then it became great and then it became weak again and then it became shit

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously the latter, but consoomers never know when to let a franchise die so that never gets to happen.

    Even now on Cinemaphile you see threads like "what's next for X property" and "should Y property be rebooted/come back" and the answer is fricking no - let them tell the story they wanted and frick off.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I find amazing how The Clone Wars had a massive improvement after the horrible start it had. The middle/latter series isn't free of issues but it's mostly good regardless.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the hell would anyone pick the first option?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't mind if it has a nice conclusion before the decline is too much to notice

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but "declines sharply and never recovers" implies that that wouldn't be the case

        It means the show started out with a wealth of inspiration rather than finding its identity during its run, there's a certain naive "virginal" unadulterated quality to it, of being an imprint of someone's passion project. SpongeBob, Simpsons, Futurama, Adventure Time etc.

        I'd still go with the later choice, but this is a fair point.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"declines sharply and never recovers" implies that that wouldn't be the case
          No?
          You can just stop watching Spongebob after the first movie for example.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The hell are you talking about? That doesn't even contradict my statement.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              It contradicts because you said it wouldn't be the case

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                You watch a show throughout its entire run. If the show "declines sharply and never recovers", you will notice the decline in quality and the conclusion will not be good. How does that statement prove me wrong?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point is that you don't need to watch the whole thing

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                No shit, but that's irrelevant to the topic of the thread.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                How is it not relevant?

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because you have to actually watch the entire show, or at least most of it, to know if it declines sharply in quality and never recovers or vice versa. Unless you're some jackass who only gets their opinions of media from other people.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wow I'm a jackass because I wanna spend my money and time in something that's worth it and I check what people have said about it
                And it is totally impossible to know something is bad from the summary alone of course

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. Whatever your favorite youtuber says about a cartoon, you could have a completely different opinion on it if you watched the show for yourself. Also it's easy to pirate stuff, you don't even need money.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm definitely watching 30 seasons of Simpsons just so that I can have an opinion on it

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Simpsons is an obvious exception, most cartoons barely even go past 5 seasons, let alone 30.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It means the show started out with a wealth of inspiration rather than finding its identity during its run, there's a certain naive "virginal" unadulterated quality to it, of being an imprint of someone's passion project. SpongeBob, Simpsons, Futurama, Adventure Time etc.

    • 8 months ago
      Indonesian Gentleman

      Steven Universe
      Legend of Korra
      Star VS

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those were all mediocre even from the start and just got worse later.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's very rare that anything is good beyond even the second season.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The last show that was perfect from beginning to end was Breaking Bad.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    #2, improving and ending strong means those people can theoretically go on to make something better.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    you guys are forgetting that the 2nd option can be a pain in the ass to get through the beginning, specially if it is a lore show that needs those early episodes to make sense so they can't be skipped.

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Season 1 is shit
    >Season 2 is great
    >Season 3+ is shit
    What's the show, Cinemaphile?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't HATE Kipo seasons 1 and 3 but 2 was the peak of that series

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ren & Stimpy is the only example of this (outside of a few episodes from season 1 being good).

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's "immaculate throughout the entire run"

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      miniseries are cheating

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing I didn’t like was the fact it was actually taking place in the 90’s

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the show is better than average all the way through but doesn't last more than 2 seasons

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What about "show starts mid and is always mid but is watchable from start to finish"?

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>the show starts weak but then finds its footing and becomes great all the way to the end
    Name one show.
    As soon as networks realize they have a hit they'll run it into the ground again.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      ___TOH___

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any example of these 2?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It means the show started out with a wealth of inspiration rather than finding its identity during its run, there's a certain naive "virginal" unadulterated quality to it, of being an imprint of someone's passion project. SpongeBob, Simpsons, Futurama, Adventure Time etc.

      I find amazing how The Clone Wars had a massive improvement after the horrible start it had. The middle/latter series isn't free of issues but it's mostly good regardless.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Show me where to start (in anime game dubbed voice)

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