Hear me out, I am not trying to troll or start a fight, I have a genuine inquiry.
Is DC Comics okay?
I mean, their movies keep bombing horribly and have no profit. Even Michael Keaton Batman couldn’t save the DCEU. Their shows are either cancelled or get no views. The Suicide Squad video game was a PR disaster and made fun of by everyone. The DTV animated movies have had their budgets slashed. The only cartoon they have is Teen Titans Go, with Superman being moved to Adult Swim and Abrams Batman show moved to Amazon. Their comics sell less than Marvel and Manga and most aren’t even in the top 100.
And now WB is selling off DC Comics music (like music from the Batman movies) because Flash didn’t make the billion they were hoping for.
Is DC Comics safe? Is DC Comics going to make it? How do they recover?
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They have Batman, they're safe.
The Flash had Batman and bombed.
The Batman underperformed and made less than Dr Strange 2.
And Tom King showed the Batman comic isn’t invincible. Like when Immortal Hulk outsold Batman.
Batman can’t keep DC afloat forever.
>The Batman underperformed and made less than Dr Strange 2.
Yeah but it was also made for a lot less money than an MCU movie. Really that's a Batman movies biggest strength, because you don't need to have a big CGI blowout with the bad guy at the end you're pretty much guaranteed to make money on the brand name alone.
>Yeah but it was also made for a lot less money than an MCU movie.
It had the same budget as Dr Strange 2
DC needs people with good vision and understanding of the characters and proper financial backing. They have neither.
The DC Comics IPs are safe, they have some of the most recognizable fictional characters in media. DC Comics as a comic book publishing company is not though. Warner Bros Discovery is deep in debt and the comic book publishing just isn't that important to the company.
What saves them is being dirt cheap. Ironically the #comicsbrokeme people would be the reason comics die because they’d become unsustainable.
Go Woke, Go Broke
If Superman Legacy bombs then the future is going to be bleak. While I don't think they will ever sell Batman or Supes. But I can see them begin selling of a lot of their D and C list icons. Characters like The Atom, Firestorm and Animal Man are the ones we should be worried for.
I don’t have faith in Superman Legacy because Gunn is shoving too many characters into the movie. And it feels like to will just be an ad for The Authority than an actual Superman movie.
Black person you’re shitting on something based off bullshit rumors started on Cinemaphile. Superman hasn’t even been cast yet maybe wait for the ink to dry on the script before deciding it’s just an ad for the authority
>While I don't think they will ever sell Batman or Supes. But I can see them begin selling of a lot of their D and C list icons.
More likely they'd make a deal with another studio to lease out their characters. Like the deal Fox had with Disney bought the rights to them, or the current deal Sony has with disney for rights to spider-man. They'd lease out the rights for a Superman or Batman trilogy, and only a trilogy out to someone smaller like Blumhouse for example, and agree to split the profits. Because at least then they'd be making some money off these characters rather than no money at all.
Hear me out: Froy Gutierrez as Jimmy Olsen
They need to stop engaging in culture war shit. Straight white people are the majority of the casual consumer, it makes no sense to spit in their fac3s so much.
The problem is that WB keeps panicking too much and doesn’t stick to a plan. They have no commitment. I expect Gunn to be fired because Superman Legacy didn’t make 2 billion dollars.
Hopefully Amazon buys them out.
No
They don't
>their movies keep bombing horribly and have no profit. Even Michael Keaton Batman couldn’t save the DCEU.
Not DC
>Their shows are either cancelled or get no views.
Not DC
>The Suicide Squad video game was a PR disaster and made fun of by everyone.
Not DC
>The DTV animated movies have had their budgets slashed.
Not DC
>The only cartoon they have is Teen Titans Go, with Superman being moved to Adult Swim and Abrams Batman show moved to Amazon.
Not DC
>Their comics sell less than Marvel and Manga and most aren’t even in the top 100.
They've been in deep trouble for a while in that regard because for better or worse they fired their EiC, and now they have no true direction.
DC is dead. Bury it.
DC needs to take a break for five years then come back. Granted that isn’t possible since WBD is bleeding money but still. DC Comics has a bad image now and is considered bad and a joke by the general population. They should focus on quality over quantity.
>DC needs to take a break for five years then come back.
By then the Superhero movie trend will be over and nobody will be going to go see a new Superman movie.
Gunn is making the same mistakes DC made the first time with rushing the Batman Superman crossover instead of giving Superman a standalone origin story or at least strong standalone entry without any crossover from the wider DC universe
Scrap production on everything but Batman for the next decade then come back after the coffers are shored up
No. DC Comics is a dead brand. In fact it is a negative brand like a zombie brand that hurts instead of helps.
DC should focus on fixing the Trinity.
How bad will Blue Beetle bomb?
But that logo is recent, post-Trump election
DC fans aren't known for their intelligence after all
Knight Terrors is going to suck
Dude, I have not seen a single thing about it that makes me want to give it a crumb of attention, and not just wait until it is over.
Oh god don't get me started about that. Comics Alliance and Outhousers were insufferable about that
It was one thing if they shat on both DC and Marvel but it was fricking clear they kept favoring one
No matter how bad things get DC will always be around in one form, so who cares.
It is hard to say as DC is in this weird place where they have a rather dedicated following. Been seeing a lot of DC centered YouTube channels pop up lately, mainly centered around the DCAU and Teen Titans (2003).
I went to a con a few months ago and DC was definitely more prevalent than Marvel, mainly having a frick ton of Ravens and Robins wandering around.
Hell, I have had a usual MCU normie explain to me how Joker and The Batman are 'real films'.
DC has way more staying power than Marvel, they really just need a new DCAU, or something that can at least invoke 90s/00s DC.
>where they have a rather dedicated following
Since when? All their stuff keeps bombing.
>Been seeing a lot of DC centered YouTube channels pop up lately
Online means nothing.
>All their stuff keeps bombing.
Dedicated doesn't mean successful.
There is a reason I specified the DCAU. That and Titans 2003 have lasted way past their finales. Same can be said for Batman Arkham, Injustice, The Batman, and Brave & The Bold.
It is sad how DC never capitalizes on any of this. If anything, shit like Suicide Squad practically works to frick them over.
Real talk OP: nothing right now matters.
Movies, TV shows, Comics, all of this are practically nothing to what people actually watch which is online content.
I say this as a DC fan: They had a good run but if they dropped off the face of the earth tomorrow, I wouldn't shed too many tears. Their current media, be they film or comics, are utter garbage.
Are there currently decent runs? Yeah, probably, but the bad is really starting to outweigh the good.
Just stick with the decent, or at least better comics, films, and shows of the past. There's more than enough to last for years.
Honestly, I feel the same way. I'd rather look back at them with adoring nostalgia than what feels like perpetual present disappointment.
>Cinemaphile - Comics & Cartoons
Cinemaphile - Comics & Cartoons
DC is a comic book company
>Is DC Comics okay?
No, the characters are corny and antiquated like what Shadow and Doc Savage and pulp characters were to them
You're wrong! Batman and Robin will NEVER DIE!
Sure, but what about Green Lantern, Flash, Martian Manhunter and the rest
Yeah they need hip new characters from the 1960s
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL MUH MARVEL CHARACTER CORNY AND ANTIQUATED NOOOOOOOOO
DC CHADS, I KNEEEEEELLLL
Modern society hasn't really changed from the 60s till now
The universal core appeal is still there. Marvel characters have successfully modernized to keep up with the times without feeling antiquated.
The only Marvel characters that have floundered are some of the old Golden Age characters
>Modern society hasn't really changed from the 60s till now
Lol, it's so fricking obvious you're a Marvel shill
I'm not. Look up "stuck culture".
What makes Iron Man outdated? Or Spiderman? Or X-Men? Or Heroes for Hire? Or Thor?
Nothing
Lol, it's even more fricking obvious you're a Marvel shillbot that you're asking people to look up a term you don't even understand
Cope and seethe. DC characters are going the way of Doc Savage, Shadow, John Carter and other pulp characters
They are archetypical and outdated. There's never been a cohesive DC universe to begin with, just a bunch of Batman and Superman dick sucking
Good luck selling audiences on power construct rings and whatever else
That's a lot of cope and seething to say that you're upset that
was right about you, Marvel shillbot
Can't address the substance, DCkeks?
Can't stop coping and seething, Marvel shillbot?
You're the one who's mad and having an existential crisis
You're upset and making excuses for why
doesn't apply
You already can't cope with the truth
I explained it.
You're violently reacting to the fact that the characters are antiquated. Great for the cartoon medium, I guess.
Not only are you a marvelshill, you're a redditgay, too.
The 60s through 80s are closer to modern times than the 30s or 50s.
Same reason there's still nostalgia pandering for that era, the music still holds up and literature from that era is still adapted
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DC and Marvel will exist for ever and keep making stuff for these never ending stories, it's funny people spreg over nothing.
The big 2 have both been in a downward spiral since the speculator crash.
They scream desperation.
Taking any opportunity they could get, it only makes their brand look cheap.