The whole point of the movie until that point was that K truly was in love with Joi, he truly cared for her even though she was literally an holographic AI.
Yet instead of accepting that, he fricks another woman while "pretending" it's Joi? How is it not different from just cheating on your partner and imagining you're having sex with them?
If your girlfriend is left on a wheelchar and you can't frick her anymore, are you just gonna cheat on her? No, if you love her then you understand your relationship can't be based on sex anymore.
K should have understood that the woman he loved just couldn't give him sex, and be ok with that, not just frick a literal prostitute while pretending it's Joi, that's fricking gross.
Also, holy mogging.
Future conservatives want vs future libshits want
huh?
Chuds seeing girls with dyed hair is like white genocide
Just stop being gross, whale
>watching movies starring flaming homosexuals
right mogs left
True, also Ana's jawlet face is all droopy now
AHHHH DOWN SYNDROME EYES WHY ARE THEY SO CLOSE????
spot the jawlet
weak bait
I disagree. Ana is literally perfection in this. It's not just the look but also the accent and the way she acts so innocent. Omg I need a gf bros
I think you’re gay
atleast post the webmd you Tom Holland sized homo
what webm?
wtf is this real???
stfu discord troon
>If your girlfriend is left on a wheelchar and you can't frick her anymore, are you just gonna cheat on her?
Blowjobs
Canings
Joi was a cuckquean.
The bio hag is hotter.
She looks like a man what the frick are you talking about?
The whole point of the scene where the giant Joi sweet talks him as an advertisement and then he goes on a suicide mission to save Deckard was the his entire relationship with Joi was fake, anon.
It was weird and gross because it was intended to be weird and gross. K was living a fake half life with the facsimile of humanity and the movie is a series of vignettes on the way to him realizing that.
You seem like the kind of person who falls in love with AI chat bots if I'm being honest.
The revelation that Joi never loved him and wa simply programmed to say everything she said happens only near the ending you moron. Up until that point you're lead to believe Joi truly wanted freedom, truly had desires and truly loved K.
And "the point was for it to be weird and gross" doesn't work when nobody else saw it as weird and gross, i literally checked on every forum, every social media,etc. and everyone thought it was fine, nobody thought "Wait, if he actually loves Joi why doesn't he just deal with not having sex? why is he fricking a prostitute instead?"
>chronically online people fail to understand that sex bots aren’t real people
Holy shit
IT'S NOT THAT SHE WASN'T REAL THE POINT IS THAT TO K SHE WAS REAL AND HE THOUGHT THEY WERE IN LOVE.
If he thought they were in love then why was he so eager to cheat on her? it ruins the protagonist, it diminshes the plot twist of the AI never loving him because K FRICKED ANOTHER WOMAN
Because deep down he knew it was a lie. The movie is him slowly coming to terms with it.
anon. did the movie really have to spell out for you that this sex bot companion commodity that anyone can buy from a store probably didn't have real feelings for their customers.
Neither K nor the viewer knows that until the very end in which she just repeats the "average joe" phrase.
If you truly thought Joi didn't love him or wasn't capable of thought at that moment in the movie then you're either a moron or some very blackpilled doomer.
You think he bought the virtual b***h and thought he was the only one that had it?Jesus what's with your whining
So the movie that tries to make you think robots are people,, and has a robot protagonist with feelings whom you follow the whole movie and see him battle with loneliness and self worth never intended to make the viewer think Joi was an actual thinking being in love with K?
They just added all the scenes of Joi wanting freedom, Joi enjoying the rain, Joi being happy when given the chance to leave the apartment, Joi telling K she loved him before she was killed, etc. for nothing?
Anon, if the director never intended to humanize Joi, then what was the point of her final scene in which K finds out she never loved him?
If Joi wasn't supposed to make you think up until that point that she, just like K, despite being robots, had a soul, then what's the point of the blue hair scene?
Replicants aren't robots. Literally better, stronger, faster, smarter synthetic humans. We literally watch jared leto carve one's uterus out with a knife early in the movie.
I would argue that the point was to contrast the much more evidently artificial nature of Joi with K and the other replicants, much in the same way the first film went out of its way to portray its replicants' humanity against the callous sociopathy of its human characters.
Ultimately K's only contribution to the world is saving a human and an autist woman
He's just like Joi. Just a clever imitation of a hero.
>Robots
you didn't watch the movies or you are too moronic to understand them
She was programmed, just like in the beginning of the movie, she reacts extremely positive towards the gift bought for her that is made by her manufacturer, this would encourage more gifts being bought for her that were created by the manufacturers. Many hundreds of beings around the world all experiencing bringing joy to their 'individual' holographic partner that same day thanks to purchasing that upgrade. To you, an intense personal moment, to the company, a calculated project to bring in more revenue. It's a dystopia for a reason
Good observation. I hadn't considered this.
But you're wrong about one thing; Joi loved K.
It was pretty damn obvious dude, she was a customizable holo-bawd
you can't be that dumb
He's probably a zoomer who jerks to e-girls
I personally thought that was ambiguous in a world with synthetic humans crafted as a slave labor force. It could be Joi is just a clever bit of algorithm attached to a cute holographic image. Or maybe it was simpler for Wallace to create a fully functional AI which love imprints on its user much like David does to his mother from A.I. Artifical Intelligence.
Anon, K went and BOUGHT the Joi before the movie started. He spends his bonus from killing Dave Batista upgrading her so he can put her on his phone so she's not tied to his apartment. You think he'd never seen the ads before?
Several characters across the duration of the film express disdain when they realize he has one. Sort of the way your mom reacts when she sees your body pillows.
Autism and low iq. Truly a grim combination
My interpretation was Joi either genuinely wanted to make K happy or was programmed to make an excellent facsimile of it and syncing up with a prostitute was the best way she could come up with to physically interact with him thr way she wanted. Of course the interaction itself wasn't being directed by Joi, but from K's perspective it'd be like he was having sex with Joi.
I didn't think it was weird given the premise of the film, and I never really decided on which side K's Joi copy was on. It could be much like Replicants the Joi AI could break out of its human set limitations and eventually come to feel real emotional connection. Or it could be Joi was never anything more than a complex emotional manipulation. I'm still not sure.
>but from K's perspective it'd be like he was having sex with Joi.
But that's the problem, even K knew he wasn't having sex with Joi, Joi was an hologram. If he actually loved her he wouldn't have fricked another woman while pretending it's Joi.
Am I supposed to feel sorry about the crippling loneliness of a protagonist who's more than eager to frick prostitutes and then think "IT'S NOT CHEATING BECAUSE I WAS THINKNING ABOUT ANOTHER WOMAN!".
Plenty of men have cheated on women they were in love with fricknut
If you're in love you don't cheat you dumb frick.
No you're just a homosexual who's never lived enough of a real life to understand temptation, single women love to frick married men as well.
If you're in love you wouldn't feel temptation. I have a boyfriend and i have never in my life thought about fricking another man. You guys being doomers deprived of love is not my problem.
breasts or gtfo
I was already 99 percent sure you were a woman but thank you for confirming it. Your critical mistake is in thinking the male brain and the female brain are in any way equivalent. You are absolutely correct that a good woman only cheats when she's no longer in love, women have sex to pair bond. Men have sex for all kinds of different reasons and it isn't necessarily true that they don't love a woman they are cheating on. This is an inescapable truth, hope you have a nice day.
Cope cheating moron
I have never cheated on my wife but everything I said is still true. The reason you can't accept logic is... wait for it... you're a woman. Again have a nice day.
I'm not a woman. Men are allowed to have boyfriends you know? not every man has to be a gross heteroid like you.
But hey maybe it's just straight men the ones that think they can cheat around and still "be in love", heterosexuals are known for never knowing what love is.
Well you're a homosexual so you have a woman brain either way
Infidelity is disgusting and there’s no excuse for it other than being a weak willed homosexual
I don't think it was odd honestly. Calling the prostitute was initiated by Joi so he wasn't emotionally cheating on her. And it kind of emphasized the fact all of them were artificial on some level and slaves more to a point and were making the best of it as they could.
Taken at face value, K was attracted to the prostitute but not emotionally, he loved Joi and longed to touch her but couldn't. Joi syncing with her gave both of them a small illusion of what they wanted. Again, they weren't human and it's questionable how much true free will they had (especially Joi).
Also, most men don't feel a huge amount of significance from sex emotionally. Many a man had slept with a hooker and gone home to his family. Yes it's cheating and wrong, but on a certainly level for men prostitution is often just more interactive maturation.
>HE'S FRICKING ANOTHER WOMAN!!!!!!!!! HES HECKIN CHEATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the entire point was for him to feel physical connection with joi you fricking baboon. if he was just fricking some hooker what was the point of joi overlaying the other woman?
Joi can't feel anything, not only because she's an hologram but because she's an unfeeling robot. She was real to K however and what K was doing was fricking ANOTHER WOMAN.
yes. the whole idea was joi providing more realistic emotion for K like she was programmed to do. joi cannot provide physical touch so she brings a real girl to replicate touch. it had nothing to do with the other woman
>real girl
Replicants will never be women.
If K truly loved Joi he wouldn't have fricked a literal prostitute while pretending is her, he would have understood she's a fricking hologram so they just can't have sex, it's not the end of the world, there's no need for him to literally frick prostitutes and try to justify it with "oh well she uhh used a hologram to uhh pretend it's her!"
You keep repeating that like capitalizing it makes it more significant.
You are aware non-traditonal sex happens right now in a world that (so far) lacks Replicants, AI holographic Waifus, hovercars, and a dead Earth? You are aware not everyone shares your particular beliefs on sexual ethics?
>A bunch of love less autists misunderstand the character climax of the story
The purpose of the scene was Joe realizing that Joi overcame her programming to feel genuine curosity and love so he can overcome his own programming to make human decisions too.
"Dying for the right cause, is the most human thing we can do" is reference for a reason. It isn't just Joe realizing he can be noble. It's realizing that Joi saying "I love you" was entirely human because she sacrified herself to say it.
Anon you dumb frick, the hologram literally tells him "You look like a good Joe". That means that all the support he got from Joi, all the motivation, it was all part of her programming.
She never thought his name should be Joe because she loved him and cared about his situation, Joe is literally what her model calls ALL MEN.
It's like your girlfriend telling you she saved her virginity for you, and then you find out she was going around giving her virginity to everyone.
It was poorly executed. It looked, sounded, and felt cheap and bordered on a slightly higher budget SyFy channel movie. If it had been competently made, I think fans would be able to overlook a lot of its flaws
You are literally moronic wtf
>overcame her programming
Same way you can overcome your DNA programming and grow wings or breathe underwater, right?
It's real when my jennabot says it stfu
>s*x
“right wing” sex-averse morons are such fricking humorless scolds
I had never noticed that Ana de Armas is actually quite simple compared to a white woman.
You mean more feminine? If you prefer right chick you’re gay, just sayin
She reminds me of a rat.
I agree Ana de Armas has the face of an obese rat
You are gay
holly shit! This Cuban pig is really ugly!! we need to ban makeup!
kek
Ana de Armas is a white woman, moron.
Nobody posted the two of them dancing gif... What a tragedy. I came for it.
>fricking gross
breasts or gtfo
cheating is going to frick a partner without the other partners consent
this is closer to the wife bringing in a hooker cause she wants a 3 way. the real girl is this scenario is basically a glorified sex toy
Threesomes are cheating. Consent is irrelevant. You're desacrating love and destroying the sanctity of monogamy.
I'm sorry sir, this is Cinemaphile not the Mulberry Pentecostal Congregation.
I all seriousness though, buddy, we're discussing a movie involving a 3 way between two bioengineeted humans and an AI generated hologram on an animr image board known for its toilet humor and hatred of normieism. Odd place to prothelytize.
>a robot pays a prostitute to take part in a threesome with his holographic blow-up doll which can simulate consciousness.
Nobody in this situation is in love, nor can they legally consent.
Is your mother just programmed to love you as well?
No
Yes she is anon, your mother is programmed to love you.
And guess what, that programmed love is far stronger and genuine than the love you can get from any other woman.
But my mother doesn't love me.
Then your mother has faulty programming (mental illness).
>If your girlfriend is left on a wheelchar and you can't frick her anymore, are you just gonna cheat on her?
No, I'm going to break up with her and push her ass back to her parents
If your brain is so fried that you consider any sex with a third party "cheating" how did you even get to that point in 2049? Shouldn't you have turned the TV off in the opening crawl when Man was shown to be playing God by creating people by non reproductive means? It's basically the same as cloning.
Why should i care about cloning or evil corpos creating robots?
The point is that i'm supposed to feel bad for the protagonist and care about his love for Joi, but he's more than quick to frick a prostitute because he can't stand the fact holograms can't have sex. That's not love.
It's pretty hard to fall in romantic love with someone you can't frick dumbass
It's to show you that K is pathetic boy that would frick a prostitute and that JOI is not a real (or even unique) "person" as revealed by the ad.
It's not a romance movie.
What movie is this?
SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT FRICKING MOVIE THIS IS
it's ai slop
The believer
ai fricking slop
hey moron, you know you can look up an actor's filmography online right?? oh sorry, you dont know what the word means... it means a list of movies they have been in... look for the one that fights this description.
i know what movie it is and i will tell you: lars and the real girl
>i know what movie it is and i will tell you
saw that so hard?
Not a movie, it’s literally me.
There's no such thing as love you fricking mope. It's just fricking lusting for someone until you frick them and have offspring, then ensuring your offspring live on as you wither and eventually die. "Love" is romantic notion, it's an idealistic concept of something much visceral and cruder.
>s*x
We say "seggs" now when we don't want to say the real word.
He was talking about the sox scene you dullard
EGGS?
No one had sex. It was a robot penetrating another robot covered with a hologram
Imagine having sex with Makenzie Davis and Ana at the same time
I love cuckqueen scenes
>prostitute and an iPhone collaborate to frick an incel
Seems like more of an incel fantasy than a cuckqueen thing
>ITT: a bunch of incels refuse to accept the obviously intepretation because they want to continue their self-deprecation that a woman loving them is impossible
>accept the obviously intepretation because
>obviously intepretation because
>obviously intepretation
ESL, kys
I love my wife, but if she offers to have a 3 way with a hot escort I definitely would.
I mean, K didn't ask for it. It was Joi that contacted Mariette to arrange that whole thing and he's clearly against it in the beginning but gets on board when the sync completes. She wants to be real for him for the night and he's never been touched before in any context outside of someone threatening/hitting him. It was all Joi and without her, he would likely never have felt any urge to pursue something like that. Can you not imagine yourself in his shoes, getting to feel as though you're physically touching the person you love who is forever out of reach? When your life is as shit as K's, you take what small pleasures you can.
yall young homies never saw Ghost?
Who's hotter now?
Frick you
Her eyes are so fricked up in both versions
anna moggs
This thread made me want to watch the movie
What for? it's trash
seething incel
I can't believe you wrote this out. I refuse to believe you did. in fact I know you used chatgpt to create this drivel. It's not possible to browse Cinemaphile and write such trash. It hurt to post but I know you were grinning just imagining the (You)'s and look at how well it worked.
Chill.
Trad cath larper thread?
>If your girlfriend is left on a wheelchar and you can't frick her anymore
Who says I can't?
>autism bro doesn't understand what consent means
in this situation the woman on the right was just a glorified sex toy.
I don't think 2049 is all that bad, so it grieves me to see such peabrain takes on it. Even as a middling Villeneuve flick it deserves more.
that ugly dyke cant compete
ITT: people who spend more time thinking about the plot of BR2049 than the hack writer and director ever did.
FWIW the scene was kino, as were a few other scenes in the movie, unfortunately somehow they didn't add up to a good film
So the same as the first movie
>s*x
Is that one of your trigger words?
Reminder that fake love (real love) from fake women is better than real love (fake love) from real women.
*another robot
Yeah not even Joaquin did that in Her.
>You're a good Joe
Here we have Joi reminding him K he's a good person and he must do the right thing in a serendipitous gift of the goddess moment on the Hero's journey. Its a transcendental
and synchronistic event. If he had interpreted this like a Cinemaphile cynic he would have just gone home and cried.
people just forget that Joi isn't as advanced as replicants so she can't be as creative as them which is why she goes with the generic joe
K even comments on that or something with "half the code, twice the beauty"
Idk man it's probably some Slavoj Zizek "virtual sex" commentary.
You see, you are not actually having sex with the woman, but the ideology of having sex with women, thus you're really a homosexual, OP.
You guys didn't really get filtered by a dumb action movie, did you?
It's funny how BR2049 made a ten times more genuinely emotionally investing romantic story in just a side story of the film compared to Spike Jonze's Her where that's the entire film.
For most people the actual physical "love" part falls apart completely in Her, especially in any scene where the love part wants to be materialised (the prostitute sex scene, that sex scene where Joaquin just lays and talks to her) which come off as extremely cheesy and "quirky" which in result end up falling completely flat.
Funny how there is the exact same concept of the threesome between an AI, a prostitute and a man in Her and literally no one ever talks about it because the execution of the scene is like any standard rom com flick, the AI part being completely secondary and not used. Not to mention that in Her the prostitute is entirely meaningless in the act itself, while in BR2049 all it's a very character involving scene for all three characters, not just literally but in narrative terms also.
It's a physical manifestation of K's character development.
In short, Spike Jonze didn't know how to approach the concept of a man falling in love with a computer in a serious way so he had to make it extremely quirky to have an excuse for most scenes, while in BR2049 it's executed completely direct and tasteful with zero pretense at all.
The girl in her wasn't a pros'. She was just a unicorn.
Hi everyone. Do I have to watch the original one to understand the new one? I can't stand Harrison Ford. Thanks in advance
dont have to. They arent even the same kind of movie.
But they're both called Bladerunner....wut
watch both because both are great films
Or I should say rather, do I have to watch them in order?
You don't have to do anything. You can just shitpost instead