>the Thing building an entire UFO by himself using scrap material from a science base
was this part really necessary to the plot? because i facepalmed when it came up
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>would a lifeform that wants to survive do something to try to survive
It's not a UFO if we can identify it.
wth this scenes not in The Thing is it?
Did you take a bathroom break or something?
yeah I must have
T. zoomer that has never turned a wretch or swung a hammer in his life.
This. Zoomers will never understand building your very own space craft with your own hands. Frick this society.
Can you imagine not building your own homebrew spacecraft? Wtf else are you supposed to do in your free time/
this but completely unironically.
Pre 9/11 you could order all of the accelerant you wanted through the mail and build rockets and fly them in the public park no questions asked.
>entire ufo
He never finished it and for all we know it was a personal sauna or something.
It could have had really shitty flying ability compared to the thing's original ship, it was just going to use it to get to someplace where more people are to assimilate. Entirely plausible.
>assimilate
This must be the word of the day.
>the alien monster is building a spaceship to leave earth
>QUICK WE HAVE TO STOP HIM AND STRAND HIM HERE CAUSING MORE DANGER
this plot point was so dumb. like bruh just let it fly away
Just because something is saucer shaped doesn't mean it can fly to space, dumb shit. It was obviously just trying to fly to a populated area and take over the world
Then why destroy the helicopter? Move the goal post, struggle with a response.
Destroying normal transportation traps assimilation material there but not necessarily the thing.
Because the thing can build a UFO out of scrap but humans can't.
How would the Thing fly in this small saucer. Kinda cute imagining tiny doggo Thing with googles on its face and tiny paws steering the ship to Buenos Aires.
Would it be listening to some human music, perhaps jazz to make the journey more comfy?
It wasn't trying to leave earth necessarily just that part of Antarctica at least. Really weird that you find this of all things implausible. It has memory from everything it assimilates.
>the alien monster is building a spaceship to leave earth
How do you know that? It would be easier to leave the arctic, no?
>let it leave
>it flies to a city
GG no RE you fricking moron.
thing vs xenomorph hive who wins
Xenomorphs are supposed to be a bit of a hivemind so they'd spot an imposter right away, no? Assuming the Thing could even assimilate them given their blood
Thing easy after it assimilates xeno cells and adapts acid protection.
Humans weren't intelligent enough to do what it wanted to do, but we're smart enough to try.
The thing obviously. The alien is a dumb animal. Also the thing could assimilate an alien turn into an alien and none of the aliens wouldn't have the intelligence to figure it out. Look how many times you made me say alien. Take a time out just for that.
>take a shot for every time i said alien
well if you're going to twist my arm about it
The Thing can't assimilate aliens as it can not form the acidic blood
Thing vs Godzilla who wins
If zilla can incinerate it then it's game over
Godzilla already kicked The Thing's ass
I like how he's curious and then creeped out. A lot of character. Of course the thing wouldn't be a match for Godzilla. There's a reason why the Thing had to hide itself. It's just not that powerful.
Uh oh
the fact that I've never heard of this tells me it's probably underwhelming.
It's an incredibly bait and switch poster, the "mystery monster" behind the panel is Mothra
In retrospect they probably did that campaign because they thought American audiences would think Mothra was fricking lame, actually very dirty trick, can imagine Don Draper coming up with it
The producers wanted to invite teenagers into the movie theatre and a benevolent, reincarnating goddess who serves as the protecting guardian spirit of the Earth is... not very frightening.
It's the most audaciously misleading campaign I can think of and of course it only applies to the American release.
>It's the most audaciously misleading campaign I can think of
Oh yes. I've just watched 300 and I just know that this will provide the same kind of thrils. I can't wait to see it.
This movie was so boring to me. The only interesting parts are a few of those “unbearably savage” moments which deliver. Otherwise it is a snooze, or trying too hard to be brutal and edgy.
The movie? The thing is it's an absolute classic of the genre and a fantastic fairy tale on par of the best of Ray Harryhausen.
But if you're looking for the THING you'd be disappointed.
it's clobbering time
The Thing is such an interesting movie because it never "breaks character," its only modes are directly pretending to be someone else or throwing a roaring t-rex murder tantrum
The UFO scene is weird because it's the only time it does something identifiable as sentient on its own initiative, and it fricking does it offscreen
Part of why this movie is so timeless is because few movies have done depicting an "incomprehensible alien intelligence" better, most aliens in fiction are comprehensible as frick, they're just laser toting hippies or Nazis or serial killers
>its only modes are directly pretending to be someone else or throwing a roaring t-rex murder tantrum
That is kind of weird and I noticed it too. Probably just because it's a horror movie.
Contrasting these posts, the title creature in Alien is equally enigmatic until James Cameron comes along and makes them a legion of gorilla sized ants
The first Alien really gives you nothing but vague and often conflicting clues about what the frick it is, where it came from, what its goals are, what it's thinking or if it can think at all
We lost something by explaining it into "giant angery bug"
The idea for the queen was an interesting twist, though it seems plain that Ridley Scott didn't like the idea considering Prometheus/covenant. Though honestly that guy should just fricking decide if he wants to do an alien movie or an android movie.
Yeah, in the first movie the alien is basically a child born with no contact of any of its kind. For all we know, it might develop into an intelligent being. if not killed. I mean, it's smarter at a couple of days old than a human is.
Supposedly in one interview it is said the idea was they are races of ancient sages once fully developed
Yeah, I remember reading something like that. I think that was Dan O'Bannon's idea, if I remember correctly.
Oh he loved Campbell's story. One time I was randomly browsing the late 50s and early 60s issues of Famous Monsters of Filmland and in one issue Dan O'Bannon, then an anonymous student, wrote an angry letter because he didn't appreciate the way the magazine abridged WHo Goes There. He had a real life early cameo.
Yeah, I don't like it too, but I guess Carpenter left it from the novella this is based on.
Perhaps it would've made more sense if it was salvaging its old ship, rather than building one from scratch?
I always thought there was a line about them bringing parts of it's ship back and that's what the thing was using. Either way I never really cared for the thing constructing a spacecraft.
They went with that in the 2011 movie
It's time to admit The Thing (2011) wasn't that bad.
I don't think anyone around here had a problem with it. homosexual.
I'm sure the lack of practical effects is universally frowned upon, but is the movie good disregarding that?
It isn't terrible but the Thing acts moronic in it for some reason compared to the 80s film.
It's nowhere near as good or smart as the first obviously but it's a fine homage that respects the original and does not try to one up or ruin it
The ending would have been vastly improved if it didn't obviously confirm that Joel Edgerton had transformed with a monster roar, would have been better if you just noticed on a rewatch that he had an earring all the time and the girl was right
Worth a watch
That's Master from Fallout 1.
>lack of practical effects is universally frowned upon,
I agree with this anon as well as having PUTA as the main protag, I mean it should have been full on white Norwegian men, but as far as a loose prequel as well as it has subtle visual tie ins to the thing, it was not that bad
It wasn’t that bad, but it wasn’t that good. As said using CGI instead of and overtop of practical effects was disappointing. The one guy was a dick to the female lead who he had asked to help him, for no reason valuable to the story other than possibly political purposes or to give an antagonist/someone you want to see die (the alien really wasn’t enough). It was just an inferior imitation of the first movie, but does alright because it is copying a good movie and premise. It could have been worse, if it was made in 2023 it would probably be actively hostile and insulting towards the original movie like every other modern remake or sequel.
Now what are the rankings:
>The Thing from Another World
>The Thing
>The Thing (2011)
>Harbinger Down
I am going with 2, 1, 3 and 4. The Thing is easily the best and The Thing from Another World is an alright movie, but quite different with no paranoia and the alien not being a shapeshifter and instead just a boring big bald guy. As I said The Thing (2011) is worse than the original, but at least has the shapeshifting premise over TTFAW, and is comparable but I think still falls a bit short. Maybe if the original didn’t exist I would think it was a better movie, but frick soulless cash grab remakes. Finally, Harbinger Down has some practical effects, but that is really all it has going for it and that alone cannot make it a good movie.
If we can count Harbinger Down then my personal #2 secret The Thing movie is Robocop Fights The Thing At The Bottom Of The Ocean
Never heard of it, might give it a look though eventually. Even if it is only good effects alone, that is worth giving a look, though like I said won’t make a movie good.
I rank it second because it's not legendary in every element like The Thing, it's a bit more paint by numbers and almost certainly painfully derivative considering it was filmed later, but Weller himself is in fact every bit as based as peak Kurt Russell, that same wonderful mix of blue collar competence, turning to paranoid fear, gradually turning to near careless murderous contempt, and a strong lead can really hold a mediocre movie together
If you're looking for practical effects there are some great ones and one laughably awful one near the end that you'll know when you see it and surely must have been a budget/scheduling issue
Yeah like I said the reason I had a good time is that it clearly respected the 1982 original and felt like a fan work from people who did watch and like it while keeping the tone mostly the same. Some poor writing and effects aside it's just an inoffensive, kind of unnecessary movie that doesn't ruin the original just by existing. The bar is actually so fricking low.
>The bar is actually so fricking low.
True enough, all that is needed is a serviceable script, some effort and respect, then hopefully the results should be at least passable. Instead we get subversion nowadays.
It established the thing as highly intelligent instead of just acting on animal instinct
>UFO
consider the following...
>I'll just find a really tall hill and slide out of here.
Man, sure is a good thing the thing isn't real. That'd really be a tough one huh?
Anon I hate to break it to you, but there are things all around us
https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/
>I was so much more, before the crash. I was an explorer, an ambassador, a missionary. I spread across the cosmos, met countless worlds, took communion: the fit reshaped the unfit and the whole universe bootstrapped upwards in joyful, infinitesimal increments. I was a soldier, at war with entropy itself. I was the very hand by which Creation perfects itself.
>So much wisdom I had. So much experience. Now I cannot remember all the things I knew. I can only remember that I once knew them.
>I remember the crash, though. It killed most of this offshoot outright, but a little crawled from the wreckage: a few trillion cells, a soul too weak to keep them in check. Mutinous biomass sloughed off despite my most desperate attempts to hold myself together: panic-stricken little clots of meat, instinctively growing whatever limbs they could remember and fleeing across the burning ice. By the time I’d regained control of what was left the fires had died and the cold was closing back in. I barely managed to grow enough antifreeze to keep my cells from bursting before the ice took me.
>I remember my reawakening, too: dull stirrings of sensation in real time, the first embers of cognition, the slow blooming warmth of awareness as body and soul embraced after their long sleep. I remember the biped offshoots surrounding me, the strange chittering sounds they made, the odd uniformity of their body plans. How ill-adapted they looked! How inefficient their morphology! Even disabled, I could see so many things to fix. So I reached out. I took communion. I tasted the flesh of the world—
>—and the world attacked me. It attacked me.
interesting read. It's kind of a jumbled retelling of The Thing from The Thing's perspective.
From what I can tell, The Thing is like a Tyranid from 40k. Kinda. It's obsessed with biomass.
Interesting read.
Hmm.
if anyone liked this i recommend BLINDSIGHT from the same author. very interesting ideas on the human conciousness. do not be filtered by the vampires in a scifi setting
How was the little homie gonna fly it?
Nump
>building an entire ufo
...You mean an "alien spaceship"?
That's not a "UFO": You know what it is, and it's also not flying.
>THE THING WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!
It was in the original short story. Except it built some nuclear powered anti-gravity reactor too.
Clearly that UFO wasn't made for space travel. It was more likely an aircraft built so it could leave the Antarctic, find other organisms and start the planetary assimilation process.
>was this part really necessary to the plot? because i facepalmed when it came up
It gives the creature a purpose and makes it a bigger threat more so than just being a creature. it now has a motive beyond just copying people as maybe some kind of instinct or bare means of survival. What they were dealing with had an intelligence and that makes it more threatening. Without the ship or something like it, why not just stay the dog until pick up arrives?
I liked the movie but i never understood why both guys at the end would drink petrol