>The Titans have started a battle disregarding the lives at this assembly.
>See for yourselves the brutality of the actions they take.
>They place themselves above the regular Earth Federation Forces and label anyone who opposes them evil doers.
>But, their own arrogance is the greatest evil; they will be the ruin of humanity! Those of you who were watching the television must realize by now that this is how the Titans go about their business.
>I admit, it was wrong to take over this assembly, but what of the Titans who were trying to destroy it with the members still inside? Would they even destroy their own supporters?!
Why did the writers of Gundam expect me to believe the same guy who made this speech would try to drop Axis on the Earth, plunge it into a nuclear winter, and kill billions of people?
cause spinoffs don't matter and there always needs to be a big bad
its almost as if something happened after that to provoke
almost as if soviet union had something to do with it
You mean the Nazis making a deal with the Soviets to carve up all of eastern europe in a joint invasion? Crazy right?
yes
its almost as if everyone is a bad guy from the start.
Anon, I could pull up similar quotations from Stalin or FDR here. The point is everyone claims to be for peace until they aren't, and OP is a dum dum.
most people don't try to end the world.
World didn't matter to him as much as his own ego.
This is not the place to go into how exquisitely misinformed you are. I'll simply pull a quote from Moldbug. "What is the difference between world domination and global governance?"
Oh lol, thought the post I was replying to was referring to IRL politics, my mistake lol. But ya, Amuro explains Char's motives in their gunfight very well, there are many dreamers in history like that. Misc Pot is a good example, he's arguably much more deranged then Char ever was.
>Why did the writers of Gundam expect me to believe the same guy who made this speech would try to drop Axis on the Earth, plunge it into a nuclear winter, and kill billions of people?
Because he only made that speech because Blex died asking him to. Char doesn't care about systems, he cares about (specific individual) people. Blex was his bro.
He thought things would get better. Instead, Kamille wound up a vegetable. Haman continued to frick the Earth up in both his dad and the Zabis' name. He wanted to fnally get people off the Earth, and really have it out with Amuro. That and he just couldn't let Lalah go. It's like Amuro said. "That's just your ego!"
It should really be called Char’s Midlife Crisis
Nightingale with the red paint and unusually large crotch armor certainly fits the bill.
I can't believe nobody ever mentioned this before now.
This. Haman and Scirocco basically destroyed any hope he had for a nonviolent better future.
Char owes Haman sex.
Lmfao OP is really so moronic as to believe that there is such a thing as a sincere political speech
how about you finish Zeta first and then CCA to know what he wants to achieve in that before asking questions on Cinemaphile
The last episode will clue you in because he very explicitly expresses his optimism before shit gets smeared on all the walls
these are intact 4gina's sincere opinions albeit more focused on the Titans due to them being the more pressing matter
obviously he's no fan of feddy bureaucrats and politicians who let this happen in the first place and use the earth as their playground
>The last episode will clue you in because he very explicitly expresses his optimism
While literally standing on a stage under a spotlight and Haman calls him on his bullshit
yeah but it's literally Haman's fault; she made a self fulfilling prophecy which she enforces both by mopping up everything + Char and by playing the fed's sick game of corruption later which CCA Char will do in a similar vein later knowing how gullible the politics of Earth can be post ZZ. OP's presentation is a call to action by bringing the danger of the Titans upon the court demonstrating the group's absolute disrespect for the powers that be; obtaining Axis was him truly taking advantage of a system that only sees fits to serve themselves. Both moves use a show of force, but the context truly matters
his true feelings are expressed after Haman's opinion and it means very little because prior Kamille and her had a chance to connect on an emotional level only for her to lash out pushing out any sort of understanding insisting on only war accusing Kamille of hypocrisy + being just like Char
Haman is not a voice of reason and cannot comprehend a warrior showing empathy, she also walks into that theatre with Siroco knowing well that neither of them wont try to backstab eachother
Quatro is the optimist Char is the pessimist
tl;dr never listen to women
Didn't this same guy say both before and after making this speech is was bullshit
do you believe everything a politician says?
he kind of went through having his whole world collapse around him between those two events
I like that no matter his persona or the time, Char always praised Bright's leadership and decisions. Even in CCA when they're fighting again Char can't help but compliment Bright's tactical ability.
>wtf the guy who said he was good friends with Garma killed him????
Hate to break it to you OP, but you're a moron.
Char doesn't lie
Zabis was a necessary culling
He and Haman still had the hots for eachother Char left with very good reason. He's a frick head for not getting Minerva out as well
Quess is just moronic and manipulated herself for him
>Char doesn't lie
Char is always lying
He has never betrayed anyone in his life tho
Can't betray anyone if you were never on their side to begin with.
Garma wasn’t necessary.
Garma? Who?
Ah I see, you're talking about the rumours regarding the esteemed late Zeon pilot Char Aznable, also dubbed as the Red Comet, but I'm afraid you've mistaken Lt. Quattro for that dashing rogue, a common mistake to be sure.
>politicans get put in direct danger
>change immediately happens
Really makes you think...
>character is previously established to be a liar
>A large portion of the cast, including protagonists call him out as untrustworthy
>Is later shown to have been lying
>hurrrrrr how come words no line up with actions???
the AEUG should have called themselves the Olympians
>Zeon Zeon Zeon-on on-on-on on Zeon-on Zeon Zeon Zeon-on
>I have come to you today as some lieutenant of Anti Union Anti Anti Zeon Group
>One more thing I must disclose before I say what i came to say, I have another name. I'm also the man who was known as Char Aznable.
>Lieutenant Quattro Bajeena of the Anti Earth Union Group. Anti Anti Zeon Anti Earth Union Group. Anti...
>Do not close this meeting!
>Bajeena.
Why did the writers of Gundam expect me to believe the same guy who made this speech would try to drop Axis on the Earth, plunge it into a nuclear winter, and kill billions of people?
Zeon Deikun?
Quiet let the man talk
STOP THE BROADCAST
QUIET LET THE MAN TALK
QUIET LET THE MAN TALK
>Q I came here to laugh at you
Kind of an aside but why do people call outer space "sora" in UC? Why don't they use the usual japanese pronunciation of uchuu?
>Amuro's later life is well-documented, up to and after his death and ascension
>Char's later life is well-documented, same as Amuro
>Judau's later life is documented too, with him helping the Crossbone Vanguard
>So is Banagher's, he's in Narrative
>And Seabook, from his tenure in the Vanguard to retirement to coming out to retirement to fight Zanscare
>Yet fricking Kamille's later life is completely undocumented, after ZZ the guy just does not exist
What the frick
He became a doctor or something.
He's also one of my favourite characters so it kind of sucks we never catch up with him again outside of that one manga appearance. But at the same time maybe it means he's just been living a peaceful life away from fighting.
All he had to do was not pussy out and lead Zeon like Casval Rem DIEKUN is supposed to. Instead dude had a mid-mid-life crisis and left the whole operation to a teenage girl.
Haman did an amazing job at her age given the resources she was given. If Char doesn't like the way she runs things then he should have stayed and did the job himself. Char can eat my ass.
Did you ignore the first part of the speech where he also tells them that they all need to start moving into space, so the the Earth can heal? And then ignore how in ZZ, the EFF shows that it wasn't just the Titans that were evil when the themselves give Haman a colony to drop, in the name of population control?