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Wow. Was Watchmen really that good?
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> The Top 100 Best TV Shows of All Time. >#14
> The Top 100 Best TV Shows of All Time
>#14
Wow. Was Watchmen really that good?
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No it wasnt
>IGN
have a nice day
What’s wrong with IGN? Aren’t they super popular? Did they give a game a rating you didn’t agree with so now you hate them?
>Aren’t they super popular?
I took a look at their most popular videos on youtube, and none of it's 'their' content, they're just hosting trailers and such.
They're in a domain that's popular (games) but their actual content (shit they made) doesn't seem to be.
>and such
Can't spell ignorant without ign
Also can't spell corruption without co-opt
>What’s wrong with IGN?
Their core competency is video games, and they aren't even that good at that.
>Aren’t they super popular?
No, and it woudn't matter if it was.
> Did they give a game a rating you didn’t agree with so now you hate them?
Take this fricking garbage to Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile.. Comics is a light enough media that you should never need to rely on critics anyways.
What do you suggest? I suggest OP isn't actually interested in talking about the list OR the show but just wants shitflinging. If I'm wrong, then perhaps moving the thread to Cinemaphile is the best play here.
One of the quintessential Pay to Play media outlets. If its video game related and a media publication, you inherently can't trust them these days. They are by design mouth pieces for the game publishers to advertise their products to unsuspecting rubes.
You can actually trust IGN far more these days than you used to
The fricking OP proves otherwise moron
They were corp sucking dickwads 30 years ago. But I can't disagree. However, this is more of a function of everyone else's quality plummeting.
Oh please. Everything since moore has been crap. Some of the sequel comics are full storytime of pain shit. I think you're just here for the shitposting.
Even worse. He's a dude who dumps pol bullshit in Cinemaphile. He'd do that whether you know, don't know, or have peer reviewed historians calling his shit trash..
no, wtf
are you even real? WHO TALKS LIKE THAT
FRICKING SHILL have a nice day
The original media-industry incestual scandal was from ign when an ex writer spoke about editors demanding certain scores because otherwise they would lose exclusive content they needed
It's were the 9.* we're the .* is the real grade comes from as a 9.5 game is actually a 5/10 and a 9.8 is an 8/10
have a nice day whiny homosexual
Explain to me how IGNs opinion isnt superior to yours. bonus points if you dont use any buzzwords
I'm smarter than the people working there.
They're a shallow review team who often lack the ability to fully play or watch what they review and merely follow political trends.
I don't think The Simpsons is the second best show ever made.
It's genuinely maybe one of the most soulless cash-ins to any comic book property ever, but it hides itself behind a shield saying "It's politically relevant, therefore it's FLAWLESS!"
Sure, it may be unwatchable, completely at odds with the most basic thematic elements of the original story, and so poorly plotted out you can reach the final episode before realizing who one of the primary characters even IS (and their identity was not meant to be a mystery either), but at least it mentioned that a bad historical event was... BAD!!!
The fact that the Lost guy worked on it also made it untouchable for a lot of homosexuals.
I watched it all and I'll say the best parts of it was probably Ozymandias parts only really and thats mainly due to Jeremy Irons being an amazing actor. The plot itself is fine it just kinda fricks with the core idea of the comic which imo was about war and too much faith in superheroes to not just become extensions of government/political manipulation. Making it pretty much 75% about race kinda ruined the main drive of the series and I say this as an AA. its just alot of nothing happening for so much of the show it feels like they just wanted to try to write something new and hip and tying it mostly to the comic which would be ok if it wasnt just so boring. its like the "mutants matter" arc in TMNT its nice but I came for 4 turtles kicking ninjas and maybe some deeper character plot. not everything has to be current to whats happening in the real world all the time.
I can't imagine absolutely everything in media with your race highlighted at the forefront being primarily about how your life is this complicated moral struggle against oppression. At the core of every single one of these stories there seems to be bait for the fantasy of lashing out instead of building something better. All we hear about is how modern structures are "systemically racist" ie racist in their rules and culture if not necessarily the people who work there, many of whom might be black but none of these hacks have any interest in actually showing what a society that's moved beyond those structures looks like.
I agree.they are not escapiism or discussing a problem but revanche porn.
Didn't watched, dun know, but from the very little I heard from people irl was that was amazing and people on the internet only really cared about the culture war stuff in it. I don't really watch live action shows and all the raceswaps make me very cynical about them.
if I was just a few black characters here and there I probably wouldn't be as offended by it, but the Wokemen is too on the nose even to get angry at, is just kinda sad? In many levels even. I feel kinda sad for what those people are dong, why they are doing and the actors and everyone involved with that shit and the fact this is standard now and is just some very poor attempt at politicizing things people like to bait them in to talking about it or hate watching. Is just sad, you know?
Friend of mine said is great, tho, but I'm not giving it a chance regardless.
This thread is a perfect microcosm of the entirety of Cinemaphile and it’s deteriorated state
People giving their sincere opinion on things? Why are you against that?
Outrage baiting, echo chamber, and ultimately yelling at clouds
Cinemaphile has always been counter-culture, sorry that you're mainstream now libtard
I know this is an outrage bait thread. I'm pretty sure everyone above me also knows. Not acting outraged is probably the biggest frick you can give to those homosexuals, so is that what I do.
Nobody here doesn't even see that angry about it, just giving their two pieces. You seem the more angry in the entire thread.
>echo chamber,
I don't know if you know this, but anyone can post on Cinemaphile. They don't even need to make an account to do so.
That's all social media, not just Cinemaphile.
What, you think Twitter and Reddit are more level headed just because they don't bash your favourite show?
He's not wrong
>OP is screencap from an irrelevant sinking ship
>OP "question" to go with their upload is yet another "is coffee good for you" derivative
>People rightfully calling the producer of the OP cap out for being a politically charged rag who's probably on a Blackrock leash
>A gaggle of leftist buffoons come out in response to the above to defend their owners
>Back and forth happens
>Thread dies
You want to know how you cut this shit to the quick? Poster IDs. It’s the moronic shitposters biggest enemy, because it takes away their biggest weapon samegayging.
Posting random articles (or tweets) as bait to incite b***hing and whining
The only good thing to come out of the Watchmen IP(Besides the comic) It's not a high bar to clear, but it cleared the hell out of it. If you liked watchmen you'll like this. Unless you're offended by the triggered warning for conservatives though. It says racism is wrong.
Conservatives being perpetually triggered at literally nothing for no reason.
>If you liked watchmen you'll like this
Come on man, you can bait better than that.
Respect yourself.
I think you are viewing what he's saying the wrong way, he just has that little respect for Watchmen in perfect equilibrium to Alan Moore.
>People giving their sincere opinion on things? Why are you against that?
Because they're narcissistic sociopaths with Daddy issues who hate white straight men which is the core of their "ideology" and everything they think, say and do is based on that and their desire to attack, destroy and kill anything we care about.
They know what they're doing is evil but they're bitter rotten losers who justify it because they're angry at how their lives have turned out and looking for someone/something to blame rather than take responsibility for their worthless existence while the ~~*media*~~ tells them that if they didn't get everything they think they're entitled to without having to work for it or if anything ever went wrong it's never their fault and a result of "systemic racism" or 'The Patriarchy" oppressing them which are coping mechanisms that they use to make themselves feel better for being lazy and/or stupid.
So they never want to hear that they're wrong and will silence anyone they can because they have no legitimate justification for what they do nor any argument as to why without resorting to npc buzzword grade school insults which is their only recourse.
You're dealing with adults with the minds of children and the worst thing is that everything with them is projection as no one is going out of their way to make their lives bad, they do that themselves and just want to make everyone as miserable as they are because they're such soulless monsters that they can only derive enjoyment from other people's suffering which is why they don't want us to have anything that makes us happy because they never will be and die alone, unloved and forgotten.
Stop your projection, man.
>Stop your projection, man.
No u.
>sincere
Oh shut the frick up
You're not wrong, but the Watchmen TV serial really sucked.
>Lovingly remixes
You can not have a "loving" sequel to a work that never needed a sequel.
Fasier, M.A.S.H., Breaking Bad,
Gargoyles, Arcane, The Red Green Show
Jackie Chan Adventures, Batman Brave and the Bold, Samurai Pizza Cats,
early Simpsons, Black Dynamite, Moonbeam City
Star Trek TNG, DS9, TOS,
Well it didn't make it in the top 15 of some shit of the top of my head, so yea, the list's BS.
I like fraz(no homo) but top 5?
It's not my top 15 of all time. It's "15 shows that popped into my head when thinking of better shows than Watchmen"
And I'm re-watching Frasier so he's fresh on my mind.
My bad then, thought you were copypasting their ranking.
>It's not my top 15 of all time
Want to specify
It's not in an order of quality, just an order of "this show occurred to me first, then this one, etc"
It's one of my favorite shows, but it wouldn't make my top 15.
I’m pretty sure the list was based in a reader poll. Hence bullshit like Key and Peele being rated higher than the Fresh Prince.
I admit that I have fond memories of Fresh Prince, but unlike Frasier or MASH, I haven't rewatched it. Does it hold up?
Dont forget Farscape, Firefly, Babylon5, Seinfeld, Friends, Buffy.
>The Red Green Show
A list too based for the world to comprehend
>no Sopranos
homosexual alert
Where's The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer
Buried by navel-gazing TV critics and self-appointed blacktivists for being too ahead of its time.
Watchman HBO is sincerely some of the most blatant propaganda that has ever been made
Its entire point is trying to convince people that somehow blacks killing a few whites and getting a few buildings burned in retaliation was somehow a genocide and that whites in 1921 somehow managed to get helicopters (?) to bomb black communities in Tulsa which is a complete laughable fanfic
Lol I live in Tulsa and there's this group that's looking for 6 million dead blacks they believe was buried after the riot. A year ago they "found a lead" when they dug up an Indian burial ground and "discovered human remains".
human remains in an Indian burial ground? oh my god, who would have seen that coming?
>The attackers burned and destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the neighborhood—at the time one of the wealthiest black communities in the United States, colloquially known as "Black Wall Street"
>blacks killing a few whites
Yeah if only those uppity Black folk just let the mob of a hundred whites lynch a guy for some bullshit exaggeration of a stupid c**t.
>blacks
The blacks started shooting first after one tried to rape a white woman.
They literally killed 10 whites before this are you kidding me
That isn't even fringe it's on the wikipedia page summery
He knows, he's a leftist so he's counting on you not knowing.
The online engagement regarding the Tulsa incident went from essentially nothing to being a hot topic immediately upon this show's release.
But the worst part is everyone talking about it taking the stance that they had always known about it.
Even if this was just signal boosting something they the writers thought was important, and not actual propaganda, it's still frightening to see so many people online trying to gaslight each other so they can continue to be socially cognizant know-it-alls.
>it's still frightening to see so many people online trying to gaslight each other so they can continue to be socially cognizant know-it-alls.
It’s no different from a breaking news event.
This shit had been studied for decades and known by any black studies department in the country. It wasn't until Coates came out, with a bunch of trash that would never pass peer review that was the breaking news.
So most people didn’t know about it because it was fairly obscure academic thing.
Journo-elites knew about it because Coates wrote an article about it in the Atlantic. In fact that's how Lindelof found out about it and why he made Watchmen all about it in the first place, because he felt everyone needed to know about it, not just people who read newspapers. Of course then it turned out that only people who read newspapers even bothered to watch the HBO show.
What does CCR have to do with the Tulsa race riots?
That sounds way too based. I refuse to believe that.
Yes. It just triggers chuds because it involves white supremacists get their ass handed to them.
It starts slow but eventually it takes all the threads left by the comic and ties them in.
>Lie about history and hijack a comic book IP and destroy its characters to own the Chuds
Imagine being this pathetic, good thing Lindelof's Star Wars project got canned.
>Lie about history
Ah yes, they totally misrepresented what happened after Nixon's third term
I wonder how it feels to have to be this duplicitous to be able to function in day-to-day life
Awful trash
Ozymandias's subplot on Europa was the most charming and engaging bit of television I've seen in years before or since. That should have been the series. Hell, it could have honestly been its own IP with minimal tweaking. Funnily enough, it felt a lot like a Grant Morrison.
>Funnily enough, it felt a lot like a Grant Morrison.
In what way?
It just seemed like the kind of thing he'd write a miniseries about, far moreso than anything Alan Moore related. It was whimsical and optimistic, a rapscallion's journey back home from a distant moon, beset by adversaries of his own instruction.
Did Morrison do anything like that?
I feel like Flex Mentallo and his Doom Patrol run are the most adjacent of his works that I've read.
They're... nothing like what you described.
I was going to say that.
>all time
Let me guess, the list is largely dominated by shows from the last 10 to 20 years or so. And the Simpsons are somewhere in the top 10.
they put Simpsons at #2 just below the wire.
here's a list of all the other Cinemaphile content that made the list
bobs burgers #78
adventure time #68
king of the hill #65
south park #59
futurama #57
reddit and memey #55
normal words but a horse guy #43
sesame street #35
the muppets #26
ATLA #21
Batman TAS #20
You know it's sad that Cinemaphile and other western properties have made in clear that they can and will change your work for adaptations to the point where they are unrecognisable and b***hing about it is treated likea. federal crime.
Hell, despite the rave reviews, One Piece is condemned by the people who like adaptations like the Op because they stayed true to the source for the most part and apparently that's considered problematic?
Well one piece is considered sexist because the female characters have big breasts and small waists, which automatically makes it shit even when said female characters are competent and tough
Counterpoint: it is problematic to not make Yamato a Straw Hat, because I love her and want her to be a main character.
>Well one piece is considered sexist
By whom?
Because live action shit is so backhanded to the medium
>Literally any animation is popular
Exec: Let's take out all the qualities that made it popular and make it a realistic live action reboot. Animation can't be taken seriously so let's remove all fantasy elements so it can be taken seriously
Adaptations have always taken great liberties with the source material and often thus IMPROVED the material when transferring it to live action format that plays on its own set of rules and what works and what doesn’t. This is entirely normal and has never not been a thing.
What has changed is people’s attitudes, and largely among the most nitpicky butthole fandoms where they take any kind of change as a direct attack and oppression against them. Especially when fandom turns racist and sexist and then acts outraged when gets called out on it.
And the best part about this fake “faithfulness” dogma fanboys worship is that they unknowingly love all kinds of old media that has taken same kinds of giant liberties with the material they adapted. Often with the author themselves being part of the creative team doing the changes. The key difference is that fanboys are just too lazy and ignorant to actually care to look up the source material for stuff that doesn’t have pictures in it. And they’re also so petty that they will start attacking the original authors if they don’t have same kind of blind rage over changes.
tl;dr
New good, old bad.
Whatever.
Someone needs to work on their reading comprehension
he's not wrong
but with all that said still this watchmen pseudo-adaptation is absolute shit
If these are the same poster, well played.
>You know it's sad that Cinemaphile and other western properties have made in clear that they can and will change your work for adaptations to the point where they are unrecognisable and b***hing about it is treated likea. federal crime.
People drank the Death of the Author kool-aid.
>Adaptations have always taken great liberties with the source material and often thus IMPROVED the material
If authorial intent doesn't matter, why not use AI?
>If authorial intent doesn't matter, why not use AI?
…what?
Art is human expression. AI art is an oxymoron. The Death of the Author is layers of denial of simple cause and effect. Literature exist because people write it. It doesn't come from the Aether.
>It was like watching a pro-government punk band performance that actively denounces any notion of individuality.
Rage With The Machine
Reminder that you need to be fully CDC-compliant with your COVID-19 injections before being allowed to attend Rage Against the Machine concerts.
And there is an art in doing adaptation and making it work as a movie or tv show. You cannot just copy paste it as it is. Changes are inevitable.
>And there is an art in doing adaptation and making it work as a movie or tv show.
You can't make a good adaptation without understanding the author's intent. You can't make a good adaptation by subverting the original intent.
>You cannot just copy paste it as it is.
You can get pretty close that unless you count the extra in-between frames from manga to anime.
>Changes are inevitable.
It really isn't. Fictional characters don't die or age like people do.
Yes you can. Sometimes the source material is rubbish and can only improve from subversion and ignoring the author’s intent. Hitchwiener took Psycho and turned it from trash to a cinematic masterpiece. It pissed Bloch off so much he wrote that shitty sequel book that is entirely ignored by all of the other Psycho films. The Shining is much better under Kubrick’s direction than when they tried to make it just like the book.
>Yes you can. Sometimes the source material is rubbish and can only improve from subversion and ignoring the author’s intent.
Right, this is stuck up mentality is why Hollywood movies are all the same because it glorifies the illiterate normalgays. In a sane world, we call those parodies.
That is like saying that you made a good translation by completely changing the meaning of the message.
>by completely changing the meaning of the message.
Maybe the original message sucked
>Detective: I'm going to pretend that the prodigal son is the actual murder because it is more interesting than the being killed by a random crackhead.
>Historian: I'm going to pretend that this historical figure is of a different race because it is inline with my modern values.
>Linguist: I'm going to pretend History is derived "His story" because it sounds clever.
You're an arrogant homosexual who will never create anything.
M’kay. That all you got?
>lovingly
That’s a bold word choice. What little I watched of this show seemed like it was going out of its way to shit on the original.
No
I watched one random episode. It was really good, but there's no reason for them to be using the Watchmen brand. It was a forced IP that worked as a show but was designed to piss off a lot of people from the start. Unlike Foundation, which is a shitty show based on source material no one in this century has any opinion about.
He must hate being right
>critical acclaim
A fun, weasely way of saying that audiences didn't fricking watch it, but journos jerked off about it.
The entire Tulsa narrative of this show singlehandedly did more to push the continental US towards its inevitable racial holy war than any ‘real’ event in the last several decades, including
>MLK assassination
>1968 riots
>Rodney King tape
>Trayvon verdict
>2020 riots
In fact I would say it did roughly as much to stir and provoke deep-seated racial animosity as all of those put together. It might be the single most successful work of blood libel ever made. So yeah just for that I would say it actually is one of the greatest and most influential shows ever
I've seen probably hundreds of posts from people taking what the show presented as absolute truth
Feel free to explain what exactly made their depiction of a two day white frenzy that left thousands of blacks without homes a "blood libel". Especially since originally this shit was swept under the rug by even the people of Tulsa.
Frick that and frick off. Take that fricking garbage to pol.
This isn't the board, or even the website, to discuss such matters in earnest.
white frenzy?
>black guy runs into a white woman
>clerk calls cops, guy is arrested and news fans flames claiming she was raped
>about a hundred whites come to lynch the black guy, about 75 blacks come to stop them
>shoot out happens that leads to 12 whites dying
>whites spend the next two days burning down the black community, beating and killing anyone they can with full police and government support
Yes, a white frenzy.
where did you pick up this phrase
Life
with bombs dropped from airplanes
And black business owners were executed with masturbation machines and roller coasters.
>whites spend the next two days burning down the black community
>Black guy was absolutely innocent and dindu nuffin
Like clockwork. It's always a huge coincidence that black people never actually commit the crimes they're accused of
>Black man follows her into a building and up several floors "looking for a bathroom"
Yea no.
all this post did was make me imagine the GTA2 announcer going WHIIIIIIIIITE FRENZY
You can’t really sweep something like that under the rug chief. The word you’re looking for is moved on.
Whoa.
>This one cable TV show SINGLE-HANDEDLY has made the INEVITABLE race war come closer to happen
Yeah, sure. Not all the real life racist events and unequal treatment in the justice system, just the one season long TV show about superheroes.
Right wingers have spent the better part of a decade insisting race war is just around the corner and it’s all the blame of not turning a blind eye to racism and pretending it doesn’t exist anymore like in 90s sitcoms
There will be a race war. But it will be very short. And white people will not be involved. It will only happen when white people have become an insignificant minority and lost all influence. The latinos and muslims that replace us will not have the same patience with American blacks as white people do and will deal with them mercilessly. As the white man goes, so does the black. I'm honestly ready.
I feel like black people will win the matchup.
It's kinda neat that HBO made a Watchmen show and it became a sequel to the comic rather than an adaptation.
The squid looks great.
The bit where capes became cops and then cops became corrupt and awful because anonymity means no accountability was neat.
The first superhero being a Tulsa bombing survivor is kinda clever and in real poor taste.
The commentary about racism is paper thin and has nothing interesting to say really.
>Tulsa bombing
Isn't that an urban legend.
It's not even worth hate watching to laugh at. It's boring, poorly written, poorly acted, and there's a reason most people have forgotten it even existed.
Stop reading my brainchip
I liked that Veit finally gets arrested for mass murdering New York and its done by the coolest guy in the show Looking Glass. Also the child clone of a asian billionarie's mother was cute.
As a foreigner I was completely confused by what this American show was trying to say about racism. It started off with Tulsa massacre, but I failed to see how that event was related to the story of the show at hand. Granted, I haven't actually finished the show, I just lost patience after 3rd episode, 3 hours is ample timeframe to start making sense in my opinion. It seemed to me like the show assumed the viewer would understand how Tulsa massacre ties into the narrative by implying that white man is inherently racist, that modern day people are same people who WOULD do it again, and racism comes from a specific group of people they targeted and still permeates to this day, not from corporations or establishment, who clearly trust people of color to do government work and persecute people for public safety, whose boots you should be licking.
It was like watching a pro-government punk band performance that actively denounces any notion of individuality.
>The Top 100 Best TV Shows of All Time
>Blatant Anti-White propaganda masquerading as the Watchmen IP
That's pretty crazy.
Anyway, you guys should talk about how the show tries to re-contextualize the comic book to appear racist and pro-rape. Trying to imply that Alan Moore is racist is pretty funny, but is also understandable for someone like Damon Lindeloff to do that since its in his nature.
Slavery was the most moronic idea of all time.
I think we can all agree on that.
yeah, bringing black people to your country is always a bad idea
What makes you think it's been abolished?
It was absolutely the worst thing that could have happened to what should have grown into a utopia. Think what this country could have accomplished in the 20th century alone without being burdened with millions of descendants of slaves.
slavery in general?
or just the slavery of black people?
Not so much slavery as it was the mass import of Africans.
>what if imported a ton of low IQ savages, inbred them a bunch, and then forcibly integrated them into society?
>t. israelites (unironically)
The true root of the slavery mistake was allowing israelites to immigrate. If it weren't for israeli slavers and plantation owners, slavery probably would have been outlawed decades earlier than it was.
No. Giving rights to women was the most moronic idea of all time.
No, that would be not terminating you during the first trimester
You break my heart.
How could you look at the Top 10, and even have to ask if #14 was good?
You either think that IGN has good taste in their top 10 and would trust #14, or you're smart enough to see how bad the entire list was.
Why is a video game site ranking tv shows?
As someone whooves the actual Watchmen and followed this show closely when it came out (I enjoyed it at first until it ended, and then all the problems started piling up fast), there's no way in hell it ever deserves to be remembered as one of the best shows of all time.
I think the most damning thing about this show is that, for all the ridiculous critical praise it got at the time, I rarely ever see anyone talk about it or bring it up. This IGN list is the first time in a long while I've seen it mentioned in something more mainstream. It's a mess of a show and a disgrace of an adaptation that should rightfully be forgotten, and thankfully it has been by most people.
I thought it was weird and kinda pointless. It's stuck somewhere between trying to be an epilogue to the original story, a dystopia extrapolated from modern society and a centrist manifesto.
I don't think it ever really came together and if I'm being honest, I don't even remember most of the plot. It tried, I guess, but I don't think it was very good.
>cancelled due to low ratings
>hated by the author of the original work
>only jerked off by journo-elites because it caters to their politics
Not just that but the author who politically agrees with everything they included and would typically be fellating something like this. That’s how bad it is.
He titled the story after the phrase "Who watches the watchmen?" then they made this sequel about a cop.
I can understand why he would instantly assume it does not politically align with his sentiments.
Obviously not, IGN is a shill outfit for studios.
%3BR
I don't think I know anyone IRL that watched this, if they did they weren't raving about it. It made a lot of noise at first then dissipated like a fart in the wind.
Why would a Black antifascist Hooded Justice want to avoid war with the 3rd Reich?
Obviously HJ is secretly a CPUSA member and follows the 1940 party line of cooperation with Hitler
Watchmen is a beloved graphic novel that SJW's wanted to wipe their asses with just like everything else white straight males care about.
You can ramble about muh politics, but all I'm gonna say is that I'm genuinely offended this trash is above The Shield, Deadwood and Mindhunter.
Frick IGN and their staff.
watchmen bros we eating good tonight
I hope this is bait because you should know how it works by now.
It was a globohomosexual propaganda show sending the "correct message" the media now needs to prop up and run retroactive damage control for.
It was so good that it didn't get a second season
No it's just a recognizable name (because of the comic)
I've never met anyone who said this show was good.
Yet all of the taste makers tell everyone how great it.
Then why do the producers say it was popular? Checkmate, chud.
They say it was "critically acclaimed" which means that no one watched it or liked it, but critics jacked off to it. When it comes to hollywood promoting its shit, they'll take anything they can get, even if all the 10/10 reviews are coming from no-name publications and content farms.
The only people I know that like this show are TV Tropes because that place is infested with SJW autists and Redditors as the show was made for them.
Started good. Then decided it would be complete shit when it remembers it's a Watchmen show.
Also never forget picrel.
homie looks like the head from that one game the LSD Dream Sim guy did
>Snyder was the least bad thing that could happen to live action Watchmen
Good point. All the production value that went into it. And in the end for nothing. No redeeming qualities and asy forgotten!
I dunno how this got such good press. I saw it way after the fact but it's remarkably disinterested in the content of its source material, which I'm used to for reboots and remakes... Except his is presented as a sequel that fully expects the readers to have read the original. So it's particularly hard to understand how the writers though they could get away with a lot of the things they tried to do. This isn't just about nitpicking continuity details, it feels like it has no interest in the themes or messages of the original and on a few occasions seems to do things in spite of Alan Moore's writing.
I try to judge things in a vacuum, but this was specifically set up to be a companion piece to the original graphic novel so that doesn't really apply here.
Because Race
Are there any websites or bloggers whose opinions are trustworthy?
Look at their track record. But ask yourself, why do you need to know in the first place?
HBO is WB, and they're feeling financial pressure. They're making pandering to black people shit, but it's less Coates kind of hating white people. Eg. The showtime lakers docupic which just happens to have the best black player in the NBA vs the best white player in the NBA.
...and folllowup on this shit goes straight to pol. No offense.
>why do you need to know in the first place?
I need anime recommendations.
I would think the "this years's releases" card would be sufficient for all the TV series. What sort of shit do you need? If you need seiya information, there's more than enough shit in Japanese.
You can tell Lindelof was stroking his little dick as he arbitrarily decided to raceswap two existing white characters.
>Not even Watchmen can escape Ginger-Black raceswaps.
I found the fact that Lindelof just straight up gave Hooded Justice Night Owl 1 Backstory, has he ever explained why that was the case?
If by good you mean compliant then yes
No, it was one of these generic woke shitshows modern critics love so much. It also looked like crap.
does hbo still make these shitty race bait shows? lovecraft country got dumped after one season too
who isn't?
Funny how any show dealing with history is “racebait” if it happens deal with minorities and shows their perspective of historical events.
There are shows written from a black perspective that aren't racebait, but HBO's cancelled cringe aren't it.
that's a completely nonsensical map of what broken-up USA would look like even Shadowrun did it better
Isn't that the show the afro ironman is from
It's one or the other.
Like what? There was nothing cringe about Lovecraft Country
A show specifically designed to talk about historical events from perspective of minorities is not a racebait, like for example in the very same superhero genre Luke Cage, or When They See Us. Watchmen tackles so many topics that racism just happened to be one of them and focusing on that part specifically is targeting, preying and it twists Watchmen into what it isn't.
>A show specifically designed to talk about historical events from perspective of minorities is not a racebait
By show, you mean "fiction about caped superheroes." By "historical events" you mean ridiculous hyperbolic revisionism. By "perspective of minorities" you mean displaced racial anger.
Do better, anon, with your RACE BAIT.
>the message of the series is 'Superheroes are good actually'
Yes, it is.
Also: Oops, we forgot Fargo exists!
Was ok
>all blacks in the show are regular, decent people who just want to live in peace
>le evil whites constantly try to lynch and genocide them for no reason at all, out of pure malice