He didn't want to admit it to himself, but the reality is that he wouldn't have risen in the ranks as fast as he did if didn't take pleasure in it. Life in prison allowed him to let his inner barbarian out. He was bored with his mundane stockbroker life, his mid wife and boring friends. Inside he became a warrior and experienced humanity in its most real and raw form.
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Wow. Big brain take.
Why do men literally do 99% of hobbies? E.g Vidya, sports
It's the sense of competition and domination
Sex is the same
As much as I hate to admit it, the life Money lived was probably more true to human nature than life as a stockbroker with a minivan. Most men this day and age NEED something to that effect to toughen up.
You can do combat sports any day of the week. You can even compete and get to knock people out or choke them. You can even earn a living from it
It's not for everyone. violence isn't good. Do you want to be injured and in pain/die? No one wants that, not even "warriors". Sit the frick down, and enjoy your comfy privileged life.
All of what you said is true and I certainly am enjoying it but at the end of the day you gotta wonder just how you would be in conflict and life and death situations? Combat sports and training in a comfy gym with no danger is not the same thing whatsoever. I do want to know what I am like if pushed but at the same time I'd be an idiot to give up a life my ancestors fought for me to have.
The movie does support this. I found it very odd how quickly a stoke broker adapted to prison life and how he charged at the black guy who challenged him immediately with little fear. He always had it in him and despite losing his family, I feel like Money understood and became what he always was. A line that suits this from TD S2
>Didn't you use that man to be what you were always waiting to become? It was always there, waiting. Your wife, all this other stuff. Those are just excuses.
Kino character transformation.
I don't have to wonder shit I was in the Marines and went to Iraq.
Maybe YOU (homosexual) have those questions for YOURSELF but don't put YOUR untempered experience on me
No.
Shut the frick up and stop coping about your wageslaver worthless life on an anonymous board, you don't know how anyone else feels about anything.
teenagers under 18 not allowed here.
I didn't get that impression and the movie doesn't lean there but it would have been more captivating if he didn't have a family and was this nice guy stock broker just starting out with clear issues on the inside then he does a violent crime, ends up in prison and discovers his self and transforms. I read a manga about this once.
His confrontation with The Beast at the end is real but also metaphorical. He was confronting the beast within himself and by killing Beast he finally embraced his true self and became the new Beast.
All the stuff about protecting his family was just a lie he told himself.
>I read a manga about this once.
Name?
Shamo. Guy kills his family for no apparent reason and goes to prison and then undergoes crazy transformations inside. The whole thing is just unhinged and ballsy and kino.
And he had to eat bland white people sandwiches and apples for breakfast lunch and dinner every day for the rest of his life.
>mid wife
Her face is mid but her body is kino
what a godamn beak
He became the Shot Caller (2017) after all!
validated
he pulled the work for his family
It's true, he was a wagie who enjoyed a workspace environment with a rigid hierarchy. Prison was heaven for him
has she put in the work bros?
3 scenes? She's not one of the select few allowed to wear that ink
Heard how she got down in New York. Keep puttin in that work Meili Ma'm.
Queen of paperwork hoopin
I wanted to like this movie but the jumping back and forth on the timeline of the story made it unwatchable.
you just got your punk ass greenlit
you either shot call or you get raw dogged
There were some serotonin against to be had but he literally lost his life and his sense of self, so much so that he could never return to it as he had become a different kind of animal. Really odd that you didn't get that but it makes sense that a moron lionizing American prison gangs would come to this conclusion.
He would have "enjoyed" not accidentally killing someone and taking back his mistakes, watching his son grow up and living with his wife, eating steak and going to the beach instead of prison slop, cold cells and shitty motels for the rest of his days.
who would win?
The guys from Alcatraz(2018)
He enjoyed it in the sense that he's naturally a climber but he views himself as trash for being in a prison gang and becoming a criminal and sees his life as a hell
Nah, he might have enjoyed climbing the ranks and what not but the life itself was always trashy to him and he was ashamed of it, notice how he's always hiding his tattoos when he's out.
wrong, movie shows him being overwhelmed with being so happy in his current situation.
He saw a Black person getting cheeked and decided "im not a hard c**t, but not taking any shit neither" which Bones promtly told him good luck with the lone wolf shit.
He was actually moronic because he didnt just roll it up and check in. But i guess there wouldn't be a movie then. Which is why Felon is better. Felon shows the gladiator camp style prison setup which is definitely still a thing, although it's more in county/juvey and NEVER in feds prisons and never was. Which is why b***h herc had it so easy for 10 years.
He enjoyed Ripper thats for sure
Nobody has mentioned how ashamed of himself Money was in regards to his family. This shame however does not extend further than that context. He, as a Father and Husband, is ashamed of his choice to commit to the gang and consequences to follow over his prior commitment which was to his wife and child. Even his remorse over his original crime was short lived. He in fact tattooed the penal code of that crime on himself. Not to shame himself but to display it as a badge of honor. Because his crime is considered a solid piece of work as far as that goes with convicts.
He certainly found a taste for the life of a savage & being connected to a gang. Also a taste for being respected and recognized for his puttin in work and being loyal to the Brotherhood. This is what was more appealing than power really at that time. These are things not shown to a working square. A job/employer rarely shows any respect to employees for anything they do regardless of their loyalty and sacrifices.
I believe there are many subtle references throughout the movie that show Money as an individual that was not exactly satisfied by his square life. While also scenes showing rather subtly that he felt genuine pride in himself for his loyalty and efforts on behalf of the gang and by the brotherhoods acknowledgement of this.
When trying to answer what was Money honestly all about by the end of the film you gotta pay attention to the sequence of the work he put in as timelined by the movies mixed chronological scenes. Popping his cherry on that first killing he was responsible for with Shotgun was not when he went all in as a down for the crown soldier. He definitely transitioned and grew (or degenerated) from that event but still he wanted to go home. It was not until his participation in the riot when he takes that serious ass shank from the hand of that inmate he collided with. I believe it was that moment when he made his decision to go all in. And immediately put his choice on display by goin full torpedo on that toad. Very next scene was him realizing that decision; when he notices the cameras angle. Followed by answering for that decision; being sentenced to concurrent terms. Followed by his reaction to having answered for his decision; where he makes the absolute statement of reckoning with that conscious decision by telling his wife "Its over. Forget I exist."
After that we see how it goes down.
**Correction: I wrote Shotgun above but meant to write Chopper.**