No, it didn't. People liked it enough but nobody was freaking out like they did with Black Mirror or even the original radio broadcast of War of the Worlds. If you are going to meme at least be funny or accurate.
"Number 12 Looks Just Like You" is an episode where young people are surgically altered to look (and think) like some desirable ideal. Its very applicable to the real world.
Nick of Time is soo great because you don't really know if there's something supernatural going on or if it's Shatners superstition getting the better of him.
Anyone who says he's a bad actor just needs to watch that episode. My favorite part is at the end when he's reading the cards to his girlfriend and he takes on a sinister tone as if the machine is speaking through him until he snaps out of it.
I have this fantasy that they made another season of the 60's Batman TV show with Star Trek actors...
William Shatner as Harvey Dent/Two-Face
Leonard Nimoy as Mr. Freeze
DeForest Kelley as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow
Nichelle Nichols as Catwoman
Grace Lee Whitney as Poison Ivy
>not understanding the deeper concept that in eternity anything can be a punishment and the real heaven is the ups and downs of an every day life lived to its best
>Donald Trump has said that this episode of The Twilight Zone inspired his philosophy of success, commenting, "I fight hard for victory, and I think I enjoy it as much as I ever did. But I realize that maybe new victories won't be the same as the first couple."[7][8]
To be fair, I’ve seen something like this happen in real time.
>friend is constructing a dental clinic out in a relatively shit part of town >there’s a homeless Mexican guy who decides to shack up on that particular plot of land >have to go tell him to frick off >show up to the property with cops >one of the cops is friendlier, but also seemed a bit manic >was eager to exercise his authority in front of us >the bum wasn’t on the property at the moment >a random black guy waiting at the nearby the bus stop gets a bit spooked when he sees us >as soon as the bus comes by, he tries to get on it ASAP >cop assumes that’s the guy we’re trying to get rid of, says something along the lines of “I’ll go book him right now,” and starts making for the bus >my friend and I tell him that’s not the fricking guy and try to get him to calm down
I couldn’t believe what I was fricking seeing. I used to think black folks were overly dramatic about cops abusing them senselessly, but that one moment made it very clear to me how easily a cop can just shit on an innocent person’s day.
look at that nog's face, looks like a demon. permanently angry, permanently stupid. >hey I'll aggressively use the same movements as someone pulling a gun
To be fair, I’ve seen something like this happen in real time.
>friend is constructing a dental clinic out in a relatively shit part of town >there’s a homeless Mexican guy who decides to shack up on that particular plot of land >have to go tell him to frick off >show up to the property with cops >one of the cops is friendlier, but also seemed a bit manic >was eager to exercise his authority in front of us >the bum wasn’t on the property at the moment >a random black guy waiting at the nearby the bus stop gets a bit spooked when he sees us >as soon as the bus comes by, he tries to get on it ASAP >cop assumes that’s the guy we’re trying to get rid of, says something along the lines of “I’ll go book him right now,” and starts making for the bus >my friend and I tell him that’s not the fricking guy and try to get him to calm down
I couldn’t believe what I was fricking seeing. I used to think black folks were overly dramatic about cops abusing them senselessly, but that one moment made it very clear to me how easily a cop can just shit on an innocent person’s day.
yeah because he's dealt with hundreds of others that were guilty and can sense guilty behaviour.
guaranteed that fleeing suspect was guilty of someone else he'd done recently.
I drink and drive around my neighborhood occasionally and illegally buy amphetamines from people I know. If a cop were to arrest me while waiting at a bus stop, do you think that’d be fair?
Innocent until proven guilty exists so that trigger happy cops don’t arrest you for minding your own fricking business.
>If a cop were to arrest me while waiting at a bus stop, do you think that’d be fair?
if you start looking dodgy when you see them then yeah it's fair and you're asking for it
I get the feeling a lot of 'woke' period entertainment is going to be lost. never released again but people will trade copies to marvel at how moronic and evil it all was.
I like how Hollywood takes reality and turns it upside down and then people believe their lie is the truth. Same thing media, academia, and many others do.
The best episodes are Nightmare at 20,000ft and to serve man but everybody knows them. To serve man looses its impact since everybody knows the ending. Some lesser known great episodes would be
Night Call
A Piano in the house
The Masks
Uncle Simon
Living Doll
Making them an hour long was a mistake as I've always said that the 30 minute format was perfect for anthologies because the longer the episode the more filler needs to be added to pad out the runtime such in the case of season 4 of TZ and The Outer Limits.
Night Gallery had the right idea by doing hour long shows that consisted of two or more short films that don't wear out their welcome.
Also, no one gives Producer Buck Hughton enough credit. He was the backbone of the show and got shit done while Serling was a bit of a flake and lost interest by the end of the third season and one of the reasons why Hughton left.
With season 5 they went back to the 30 minute format but didn't hit the heights of the first 3 despite having some classic episodes such as Nightmare at 20,000 (Directed by Richard Donner of Superman and lethal Weapon etc...) , Living Doll, Number 12 Looks Just Like You, Night Call (which was the inspiration for Kavinsky's song Nightcall https://youtu.be/MV_3Dpw-BRY?si=Bd1c7m5nO6wHcOdc), An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge (which was actually a short film they had purchased), The Masks, Stopover In A Quiet Town and The Bewitchin' Pool (the last two both written by Earl Hamner Jr. along with The Hunt and would later create The Waltons).
TZ was also inspiration for the best pinball game ever made....
>Time Enough to Last.
perfect episode for autists with a happy enlightening conclusion. >Old Man in the Cave.
my personal favourite.
basically a post nuclear bomb scenerio where the survivors of a remote town get their information on what to do and what not to do by a 'mysterious old man' in a cave that has only one human man allowed to interact with him. to me the whole episode is a premonition of our western society in the clutches of the current AI beast system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street is timeless. I also really enjoy the one with the nuclear bunker getting destroyed by the guys' friends over a fake scare.
Most of the are great so this is basically just every episode, but here's the definitive list:
Where Is Everybody?
The Lonely
Time Enough At Last
Judgement Night
And When the Sky Was Opened
And When the Sky Was Opened
I Shot an Arrow into the Air
The Hitch-Hiker
The Last Flight
Elegy
The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street
People Are Alike All Over
The After Hours
King Nine Will Not Return
The Howling Man
Eye of the Beholder
The Invaders
Twenty Two
The Odyssey of Flight 33
Long Distance Call
A Hundred Yards Over the Rim
The Rip Van Winkle Caper
Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?
The Obsolete Man
Two
The Shelter
The Passersby
The Grave
The Midnight Sun
Five Characters in Search of an Exit
To Serve Man
The Little People
The Dummy
The Changing of the Guard
Miniature
The Parallel
On Thursday We Leave for Home
Nightmare at 20,000 Feet
A Kind of a Stopwatch
Living Doll
The Old Man in the Cave
Probe 7, Over and Out
The 7th Is Made Up of Phantoms
The Long Morrow
Number 12 Looks Just Like You
Black Leather Jacket
Night Call
From Agnes—With Love
Spur of the Moment
An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
Queen of the Nile
The Masks
I Am the Night—Color Me Black
Stopover in a Quiet Town
The Encounter
The Fear
The Bewitchin' Pool
I like the one where the convict is serving out a prison sentence on a remote planet, but they give him a robo-waifu as company. Then he gets so attached to her, he doesn't want to leave.
I think that one really resonates with most of Cinemaphile.
The Hitchhiker always creeped me out
Also the one where the electronics talk to the lonely guy.
Also the one where a guy runs someone over with his car, flees the scene, and the car start laying on the horn at night driving the guy crazy with guilt
It's not a top episode, but I liked The Jungle episode about superstition and voodoo and stuff.
Some other good ones were the hitch hiker, monsters are due on maple street, time enough to last, will the real martian please stand up, midnight sun, an occurance at owl creek bridge, shiiieet so many classics. Probably the best tv show of all time.
OP, I'm not bullshitting when I say that I was thinking about this episode today and how it exemplified something that only you are aware of and no one else believes you. The fear of being isolated with no help and unable to convince others and that something is going to happen to you and there's nothing that you can do to stop it stop it. The ending is chilling!!!FACT!!!
>Why? >Can't you just watch the episode and make up your own mind about it?
I have watched the episode many times but like to hear what others have to say because maybe they might have some insight that I overlooked because I'm not an egotistical c**t who won't listen to others because being proven wrong or enlightened on something that I was unaware of would make me doubt myself and create an existential fear within my subconscious and an uncomfortable feeling of uncertainty every second of the day!!!FACT!!!
>I'm not an egotistical c**t
HAHAHAHA, yet you feel the need to use a name and push your queer FACT meme for years now. Give me a fricking break, namehomosexual.
I haven't seen this episode, or any of the Twilight Zone outside of what I've absorbed from other media. But as a millennial, I'm sorry, I would have found this annoying.
I like my weird space things that do things and the author has the courage to actually tell you what it is as opposed to letting you "imagine what could be".
I don't need everything spelled out. It's just how I like my sci-fi. "What the hell is that and what is it doing?"
wasn't there another similar ep? i remember an airplane in a hanger with some passengers and it ends with all of them disappearing except for one military guy. i think even the hanger disappears in the end?
my favorite is it's a good life. The short story it's based off of is even spookier since they explain what happened the moment he was born [spoiler[ the doctor who delivered him tries to kill him on the spot and that's when the "child" first uses it's powers to wipe out everyone on earth but the farm town[/spoiler]. It's fricking crazy.
i agree truly the most disturbing episode.
what is the short story called?
an i never noticed the pictures removed from the walls. the boy must have killed the people in the pictures off and didn't want to be reminded?
>the part where beyond the cornfield is a paradise for animals that he created for them based off their thoughts and desires and how he gets satisfaction from their simple gratitude
It's A Good Life is a great episode while I also love Joe Dante's version for the TZ movie..
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It should also be noted that the voice of Bart Simpson, Nancy Cartwright, played Anthony's "sister" Ethel along with Cherie Currie (lead singer of The Runaways) as his real sister Sara who now does chainsaw sculpting.....
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They did a sequel episode for the 2002 TZ revamp called "It's Still A Good Life" with Bill Mumy returning as Anthony who now has a daughter that has the same powers....
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Finally, Bill Mumy and Robert Haimer would go on to create the band Barnes & Barnes, famous for their song Fish Heads while it's music video was Directed by Bill Paxton (Aliens, Weird Science, R.I.P.) who also appears....
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And you can see a very young Miguel Ferrer (R.I.P.) in their other video Pizza Face....
dude the TZ movie sucked ass, especially it's a good life. the puppets were fricking stupid and they changed the lore so that it's just the family that's tortured but he can also go in the real world sometimes and even get yelled and and hurt without vaporizing anyone FACT
>dude the TZ movie sucked ass, especially it's a good life. the puppets were fricking stupid and they changed the lore so that it's just the family that's tortured but he can also go in the real world sometimes and even get yelled and and hurt without vaporizing anyone FACT
I agree that the original is superior but I love the cartoonish tone that Dante creates but Gremlins is my 3rd favorite movie of all time, so I may be biased. But there's no way to argue that the 20,000 remake isn't better in every way, except for the shit end with Ackroyd.....
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It's too bad that instead of Landis and Spielberg they couldn't have got Don Coscarelli (Phantasm) and Sam Raimi to have done the other two segments with different stories. Might have been interesting.
I just want a retro black & white TZ show set in the era that the original was made that copies the style and aesthetics that the original show had. Sure CGI would be used but don't over do it by having fancy Blade Runner environments or H.R. Giger style aliens. Draw from pulp Sci-fi/Horror movies/comics and keep things visually simple while there's plenty of great short stories that could be adapted!
Finally, I hate JJ Abrams but will always give him respect for doing an episode of his show Felicity as a homage to the original TZ and even hired Lamont Johnson, who was one of the best original TZ Directors, to Direct it while the episode itself was written by Abrams and Matt Reeves!!!FACT!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3-_wWDT3Ck
in the short story it's noted that the townspeople only have a few personal effects remaining, such as paintings or instruments or pets, and they take turns with them, swapping them every sunday at church.
The original Twilight Zone is my favorite TV show and the recent Jordan Peele version was nothing more than racebaiting Black Mirror trash.
When Rod Serling created TZ he was using Sci-fi/Fantasy/Horror to tell tales about the human condition that he couldn't get away with otherwise while working with some of the best people in the business.
Serling believed in fairness and equality but not this SJW "FRICK WHITE PEOPLE!!!" bullshit that raving SJW's spew. TZ were essentially morality tales.
I've been saying for years that the problem with every new version of TZ is that it's set in the era that it's made in. The reason why the original worked was because it had the dichotomy of having all of these weird, horrific, creepy things happen in this 1950's Norman Rockwell white picket fence world.
I've also been saying that I want a TZ remake that's shot in black & white and set in the era of the original. Why the frick is this soo hard to understand?!? It would be cheap and easy to produce. Just adapt great short stories and there's no way you couldn't make a good show.
For anyone who calls themselves a fan of the original TZ, there are two things that are absolutely essential;
The Twilight Zone Companion by Marc Scott Zicree and the American Master's doc on Rod Serling which you can watch on YouTube although the picture quality isn't great!!!FACT!!!
I watched that doc 10 years ago to understand his writing and realized no one writes like that anymore and that was during the shitty wall street protest. Now it is even worse.
Why does no one write stories or tv like that anymore wtf happened?
Where the frick did you find the first clip?
Serling seems so nervous saying umm and other verbal fillers during an interview. A modest motherfricker.
He sounds like a normal human being. Like a teacher almost. Damn. He was a huge influence in me majoring in English when I was in college 15 years ago. Too bad all college writing now is woke and terrible. No sense of wonder and love for the craft of writing stories.
Not sure if this a direct reference, but this bit always reminded me of the episode Judgment Night where the guy doesn't remember how he got aboard a ship that soon gets attacked by a German U-boat commanded by himself
>The reason why the original worked was because it had the dichotomy of having all of these weird, horrific, creepy things happen in this 1950's Norman Rockwell white picket fence world.
you're sooo close to understand why the Peele reboot did what it did, yet so far it's very funny
>you're sooo close to understand why the Peele reboot did what it did, yet so far it's very funny
What I understand is that he wanted to use it to shove race baiting identity politics into it while the original was, not always, more subtle with its messaging about fairness and quality compared to Jordan's "FRICK WHITE PEOPLE!!!" approach!!!FACT!!!
Horseshit. Any real TW fan knows he's on record at basing the show on leftist messages he presented through allegories. And yes, that included white man bad.
>And yes, that included white man bad.
Ok, but it's obviously far more subdued. People who try to muddy the waters and act like the original Twilight Zone is just as bad as "The American Society of Magical Black folks" are delusional. The only example of "white man bad" from the original series I can think of is the episode where Dennis Hopper plays a George Lincoln Rockwell-esque neo-Nazi. But since Rod Serling was israeli, his hatred of Nazis is not really surprising.
There's differences between the political messages in the older Twilight Zone. Mainly two: >Better writing that balances both entertainment, and message, rather than favoring messaging over entertainment value
and >Evergreen messages that are relevant even today. The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street, and The Shelter, shows that humans are self-interested, and innately paranoid. And, if we're not careful, it can be the death of us all. The Obsolete Man shows the danger of allowing government censorship.
Compare that to "Lmao the kid is a president! Get it? It's like we have a CHILD as our president!", and it's so far ahead, it's ridiculous. The messages of the old Twilight Zone are universal, and timeless, not just a vent session on current affairs.
Exactly right, the stories in The Twilight Zone were written to be universally appealing fables. They aren’t didactic. Rod Serling was a total libshit but the show made sure not to shove everything down your throat most of the time. The writing excels in its metaphor. Nowadays, nothing would be as subtle.
>Her name: X-20. Her type: an experimental interceptor. Recent history: a crash landing in the Mojave Desert after a thirty-one hour flight nine hundred miles into space. Incidental data: the ship, with the men who flew her, disappeared from the radar screen for twenty-four hours.
>USAF Lieutenant Colonel Clegg Forbes arrives at a military hospital to visit his friend and co-pilot Major William Gart. The two had recently piloted an experimental spaceplane, the X-20. During their voyage the craft disappeared from radar screens for a full day before reappearing and crash landing in the desert, leaving Gart with a broken leg. Forbes is agitated and asks Gart if he remembers how many people were on the mission. Gart confirms that only he and Forbes piloted the plane, but Forbes insists that a third man – Colonel Ed Harrington, his best friend for 15 years – accompanied them.
Reality is changing as each man begins to realize he is about to be erased from existence. When the first guy gets the feeling that something is off and that they shouldn't be there, he calls his parents and they say they have no son.
Best was the one where there's like nuclear annihilation or whatever and guy's last man on Earth. He's like "frick yeah, I hated everybody, glad they're dead, now I'm gonna read books all day" and then he breaks his glasses
Scary shit
Does anyone think Serling gets perhaps a bit too much credit when he was mostly adapting works of other sci-fi writers? How many original stories did he write?
Not really. Sure a lot were adaptations but he really gets credit with bringing them to life, and no one could present quite like him. Also deserves credit for being a quality filter; as he’d say him and his team could get like 4,000 submissions and maybe 12 would be worth the paper they were written on
>Does anyone think Serling gets perhaps a bit too much credit when he was mostly adapting works of other sci-fi writers? How many original stories did he write?
He wrote quite a few originals but you can't deny that it was his vision and luckily had people who supported him and steered the show in the right direction, same as Gene Coon with Star Trek and Gary Kurtz who Produced Star Wars, Empire and Raiders before Lucas shitcanned him for Empire going over budget and Lucas just wanting to turn Jedi into a remake of A New Hope and ghost Directing it through Richard Marquand, which Kurtz disagreed with!!!FACT!!!
like the one with the holocaust abortion doctor being praised as an essential hero one day then deemed sinister evil the next because he corrected a woman biographer 60 years later
or the one where the southern colonel 'racist' keeps wakes up from a nap and his once proud strong respectable white sons turn into skinny weak jive talking black kids.
no the worst one is the business man who builds a robot to eliminate all the old workers jobs from the factory he took over from his father and then the robot of course ends up taking his job too.
>hating on the robot episode
It’s always been pretty relevant about being careless towards human value over machines for the sake of just efficiency. You could replace the robots with illegal workers and get the same message.
there's is one weak episode where richard basehart lands on a distant planet in his damaged spaceship. He communicated with earth on the radio and finds out a nuclear war has started and they can never come rescue him. But fortunately there is a QT there for him to make friends with and oh his name is adam and hers is eve.
I had a friend in high school whom I cannot find in my yearbook or social media. I looked at some prom pictures and he's not in any of them. I swear he existed but everyone thinks I'm crazy so I don't talk about it with anyone.
don't know f you are trolling but....same thing happened to me.
30 years ago i had someone in grade 6, a cool girl from another school that we all had a crush on, stay only 1 year and then leave. but the 3-4 people i still keep in contact with from that time think i am making her up. granted i can't recall her name but the way she dressed and looked and where she sat are very clear. but those guys, they genuinely are confused when i bring up situations with that girl, situations that we were all around and part of and had consequences with other events, definitely not isolated....but just blank stares and a slightly disturbed laugh on their part 'oh anon you always were a strange cat'. i have since stopped bringing her up and might have been quite a few years since i did but thanks to your post i am going to jerk off to my totally real core memory of making out with in her while the space hog cd changes over to muddy banks at the whiskah in the new 5 disc changer her dad's kick ass hi fi had in his semi finished north end basement.
I believe you. I found that I actually have an outstanding memory. Most normies are unbelievably forgetful and can't really remember anything a year out.
don't know f you are trolling but....same thing happened to me.
30 years ago i had someone in grade 6, a cool girl from another school that we all had a crush on, stay only 1 year and then leave. but the 3-4 people i still keep in contact with from that time think i am making her up. granted i can't recall her name but the way she dressed and looked and where she sat are very clear. but those guys, they genuinely are confused when i bring up situations with that girl, situations that we were all around and part of and had consequences with other events, definitely not isolated....but just blank stares and a slightly disturbed laugh on their part 'oh anon you always were a strange cat'. i have since stopped bringing her up and might have been quite a few years since i did but thanks to your post i am going to jerk off to my totally real core memory of making out with in her while the space hog cd changes over to muddy banks at the whiskah in the new 5 disc changer her dad's kick ass hi fi had in his semi finished north end basement.
well as a fellow district grand autist over here i have the same issue.
i can recall instantly specific dates when albums or movies came out and what i was doing then and what others were doing to. 'anon you know me more than i know myself!' very common phrase directed to me.
yet i am the one accused of having a faulty memory in regards to a girl that we were all experiencing together for a year? but i assume they think i am up to something dastardly and occult when i start flapping my arms accusing those gays of insanity especially when i tell them..again...the reason she is not in the yearbook is because she came late in the year.
Frick. Why does God do this to us? I remember mine. Her name was Maddy. She would hang out with my sister and I and the neighborhood kids, play pokemon, Turok evolution, and never winter nights.
>I had a friend in high school whom I cannot find in my yearbook or social media. I looked at some prom pictures and he's not in any of them. I swear he existed but everyone thinks I'm crazy so I don't talk about it with anyone.
I actually had something like this happen to me.
Last week I had to go to the doctor at a walk-in clinic. I haven't been there in over a year but the Doctor I saw at the time was taller than me, black and heavy built like a football player with his head shaved. I go back and he's still black, has his head shaved but now shorter than me and very skinny with a small frame
Despite having the same name I swear it's not the same person I saw last year!
don't know f you are trolling but....same thing happened to me.
30 years ago i had someone in grade 6, a cool girl from another school that we all had a crush on, stay only 1 year and then leave. but the 3-4 people i still keep in contact with from that time think i am making her up. granted i can't recall her name but the way she dressed and looked and where she sat are very clear. but those guys, they genuinely are confused when i bring up situations with that girl, situations that we were all around and part of and had consequences with other events, definitely not isolated....but just blank stares and a slightly disturbed laugh on their part 'oh anon you always were a strange cat'. i have since stopped bringing her up and might have been quite a few years since i did but thanks to your post i am going to jerk off to my totally real core memory of making out with in her while the space hog cd changes over to muddy banks at the whiskah in the new 5 disc changer her dad's kick ass hi fi had in his semi finished north end basement.
She didn't either, close your eyes and don't think about her.
>I had a friend in high school whom I cannot find in my yearbook or social media. I looked at some prom pictures and he's not in any of them. I swear he existed but everyone thinks I'm crazy so I don't talk about it with anyone.
I actually had something like this happen to me.
Last week I had to go to the doctor at a walk-in clinic. I haven't been there in over a year but the Doctor I saw at the time was taller than me, black and heavy built like a football player with his head shaved. I go back and he's still black, has his head shaved but now shorter than me and very skinny with a small frame
Despite having the same name I swear it's not the same person I saw last year!
FINALLY, SHE HAD FRICKING BRACES!!!FACT!!!
He got old, stop overthinking.
Frick. Why does God do this to us? I remember mine. Her name was Maddy. She would hang out with my sister and I and the neighborhood kids, play pokemon, Turok evolution, and never winter nights.
It's a commentary on news propaganda. thats one aspect. at the time analogous to Soviet propaganda but nowadays more analogous to the state controlled media propaganda of the U.S. as well as globally
I actually think they had a good idea and it was absurd that the cost of gold would not at least be what it worth in the past if not way, way more in the future. Just set the wake up to 60 years to be safe.
>Just bought the box set recently. Saving it for Christmas though
I got the box set a long time ago, and worth every penny, but the lack of the American Masters doc is a glaring omission.
Anywho, I'd also recommend Kino Lorber's release of all three seasons of Night Gallery which are fantastic and includes the original TV pilot with Steven Spielberg's Directorial debut, Eyes - starring Joan Crawford, and my personal favorite segment, The Cemetery, Directed by the before mentioned late Boris Sagal while here's the excellent score by Billy Goldenberg.....
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I was also able to find the original trailer for the pilot...
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And some interviews with Spielberg on his Night Gallery experience....
I actually think they had a good idea and it was absurd that the cost of gold would not at least be what it worth in the past if not way, way more in the future. Just set the wake up to 60 years to be safe.
Somewhat on topic but Boris Sagal, who directed the TZ episodes The Silence and The Arrival, went on to Direct The Omega Man, based on TZ writer Richard Matheson's novel I Am Legend (adapted as Last Man On Earth starring Vincent Price in 1964 and the awful 2007 Will Smith abomination, while also the basis for Night of the Living Dead) and scored by Ron Grainer who created the theme for Doctor Who....
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Whose composes a beautiful and haunting melancholic soundtrack...
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Finally, Sagal was the father of Katey Sagal (Peggy from Married with Children and Leela from Futurama) and was killed in an accident during production of the miniseries World War III, when he was partially decapitated by walking into the tail rotor blades of a helicopter in the parking lot of the Timberline Lodge in Oregon. An investigation revealed that he turned the wrong way after exiting the helicopter. He died five hours later in a Portland hospital.
I remember years ago watching an edit of Planet of the Apes (which Serling wrote) that was really good. Basically they cut it down into a 30 min black and white Twilight Zone episode with narration and all and it was great. Worked really well.
Remember the kino one where the dead men of the civil war march home and the southern lady meets Lincoln at the end of the line, realizing she’s been dead for weeks?
>i'm going to download this and watch it, never seen any before, so only the original series in black & white is any good?
The 80's revival has its moments, while I love the opening intro with music by The Grateful Dead....
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But they made each episode of the first two seasons an hour long, creating the same problems as I mentioned before with that format, with only 4 episodes being 30 minutes, then stuck with that for all of season 3, which was the last season.
Every new version has been utter fricking trash and since I brought them up...
It’s A Good Life is the best episode. Really great performances and the idea of killing a kid to get out of the situation is so dark today nevermind when it first came out
>I love anthology TV shows. Recently bought Alfred Hitchwiener Presents/Hour as well as Tales Of The Unexpected to dig into over Christmas
Anthologies are the best format for Horror, same as short stories in general as they can be straight to the point with no filler.
Tales from the Crypt was a good example but it kinda had the opposite problem that they were adapting stories from the comics that could barely fill out a 30 minute runtime and led to a lot of padding while Night Gallery's hour long multiple story format would have been better suited.
One thing I'd love to see is a fully animated 2D Horror anthology show and I don't know why it hasn't been done while Love+Death&Robots doesn't fit the bill as it's more Sci-fi and uses multiple styles with no consistency!!!FACT!!!
>that episode where the guy goes back in time and falls in love with a school teacher >only for a lame loony-tunes tier """"""accident""""" to ruin it and """convince""" the guy he can't stay
always hated TZ's short-sighted and lame strawmans
one of my least favorite gimmicks along with "getting free wishes/things will always monkey-paw because humans le stupid 🙂 "
Charles Beaumont wrote some great ones, his books of short stories are excellent as well. It's a shame how he just suddenly fell ill with the chronic disease and wasted away. Some insiders mentioned that it got so bad, that he couldn't even sell his scripts at meetings, because his mental state was so bad.
Wanna say that I've really enjoyed this thread as it's refreshing to have people who actually want to talk about something compared to the NPC wasteland the catalogue usually is.
Thanks to all of you for your contributions, even if you were being a c**t.
Does anyone else find it weird that a 1950s science fiction show is more profound than most art being made today? Some of these episodes are absolutely brilliant, still relevant today and worth anyone’s time
It's certainly harder to write something good that resonates with a lot of people today for a few reasons. First, so many stories have already been told, it is hard not to be derivative. Second, there is less mystery to the world as technology has progressed and people have become more informed and connected to each other, even if that connection isn't genuine in person connection. Third, there are so many more things competing these days for your attention that I feel writers don't want to risk being nuanced and subtle for fear of being overlooked. Or I guess all writers these days are shit idk.
There's too many good ones to choose from but I'm fond of the episode where he passes through his old town and it's essentially a time capsule and he meets his younger self and his parents
I always thought it was kind of sweet and melancholy
The only episodes of these types of shows (TZ, outer limits) that scared me were :
the crazy guy maintaining a rube goldberg machine that, if left unattended, will destroy the world, eventually dies and the main character is compelled to run the machine in his stead
the episode (outer limits I think) where someone sees faces in stains on the walls/ceiling and eventually people start to protrude from the walls to pull the main character in
some random loser finds a weird immobile "fish" in a fishtank that is actually psychic and starts to manifest its will
Not all of them. A lot of them have real messages to them, others are just fun science fiction stories. Like the one where the couple wander through an abandoned town and then the ending reveals they are actually kidnapped by a giant girl who uses them as toys in a fake toy town
There's plenty that are just sci-fi or fantasy silliness. >The confederate army finds a satantic spell book. >Some woman pushes her uncle down the stairs, and is surprised he gets turned into a robot, so she'll never inherit the house. >Aliens come down with a book titled To Serve Man, and it's revealed it's actually a cook book. >A little boy is given God powers, and becomes a tyrant >A dolly is evil, and talks. >A woman keeps seeing a hitchhiker. Turns out she actually died years ago.
And many more. Boiled down, there's really only three types of stories in The Twilight Zone: The Greatest Enemy of Man is Man, Deals With the Devil Never End Well, and sci-fi shenanigans.
>A little boy is given God powers, and becomes a tyrant >A dolly is evil, and talks
These ones I remember the most because of Johnny Bravo episodes that parodied them.
>The confederate army finds a satantic spell book
What episode was that? Cause I remeber the one with a Road where soldiers were dead and the lincoln was at the end?
Anyone listen to the Twilight Highlight Zone podcast? It was done by two Game Informer editors that watched and reviewed every original episode. It's a comfy friendship simulator and fun to listen to as you work through the episodes.
>nobody will remember you existed at all
This made boomers shit,piss,barf and cum in their pants consecutively and simultaneously
>PERCEPTIONS OF THINGS CHANGE FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION? WOW! THEY WERE SO LE DIFFERENT!
*yawn*
so you don't know what the episode was about. great, thanks for posting.
It's 'And When the Sky was Opened'
dumb esl monkey
p sure the spooks here come from your impending death that you can do nothing to stop and that nobody believes you about
>"omg is that an empty office building? I'm gonna freak!"
>what if childhood thing was made by a murderer and had the souls of dead kids in it?
OH MY GOSH I'M SO JUMPSCARED
Good bait
No, it didn't. People liked it enough but nobody was freaking out like they did with Black Mirror or even the original radio broadcast of War of the Worlds. If you are going to meme at least be funny or accurate.
t. 80s boomer
>the original radio broadcast of War of the Worlds
Didn’t happen at all. This is a case in point why people hate gullible boomers.
>dumb meme template repeated ad nauseum for years on end
this made zoomies piss and shit themselves with laughter
What episode?
List some other top episodes.
The Howling Man
this one sucks. waste of time
The Howling Man is king. You’re just a homosexual.
Pleb == Filtered
Some good ones
>Nightmare at 20,000 Feet
>Eye of the Beholder
and from the 2002 reboot
>The Pool Guy
>Chosen
"Number 12 Looks Just Like You" is an episode where young people are surgically altered to look (and think) like some desirable ideal. Its very applicable to the real world.
It's very applicable to South Korea. I always think about my time in South Korea when I watch that episode. Plastic surgery is just like that in SoKo.
Seriously, it's incredible how well that episode aged.
The Invaders
The invaders is great
for me it's "Nick of Time"
My top three..
Nothing In The Dark
The Lonely
Nick of Time
Nick of Time is soo great because you don't really know if there's something supernatural going on or if it's Shatners superstition getting the better of him.
Anyone who says he's a bad actor just needs to watch that episode. My favorite part is at the end when he's reading the cards to his girlfriend and he takes on a sinister tone as if the machine is speaking through him until he snaps out of it.
Then there's the ending....
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Ohhhh Nothing in the Dark is so fricking good. For me it's
>Shadow Play
>The Night of the Meek
The Night of the Meek is my personal favorite because it's a Christmas special.
>Ohhhh Nothing in the Dark is so fricking good.
And with an early appearance by Robert Redford while here's a brief snipped of him talking about it....
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Nick of Time is fricking class. Top 5 for me. I also like the silly one with the diner and the aliens, but I can't remember the name.
Will the real martian please stand up.
Not kidding. That is the name of the episode
Will the real martian please stand up is one of my all time favorites.
also one of the few ones with a somewhat happy ending
at least for shatty dawg
I remember Shatner was in that
But I don't remember what it was about.
it's about being trapped in Ohio
fr fr no cap homie u got me laffin :skull emoji: :skull emoji: :skull emoji:
hey bruh, just hit the windows key and . and you can post emojis!
actually no you can't, thank christ
I have this fantasy that they made another season of the 60's Batman TV show with Star Trek actors...
William Shatner as Harvey Dent/Two-Face
Leonard Nimoy as Mr. Freeze
DeForest Kelley as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow
Nichelle Nichols as Catwoman
Grace Lee Whitney as Poison Ivy
!!!FACT!!!
AI that shit when the tools reach normie hands.
Five Characters in Search of an Exit
A Nice Place to Visit
>noooo I don't want to have everything I want whenever I want this is hell nooooo
>not understanding the concept of eternity
>not understanding the deeper concept that in eternity anything can be a punishment and the real heaven is the ups and downs of an every day life lived to its best
>Donald Trump has said that this episode of The Twilight Zone inspired his philosophy of success, commenting, "I fight hard for victory, and I think I enjoy it as much as I ever did. But I realize that maybe new victories won't be the same as the first couple."[7][8]
People are going to say the usuals so I’ll bring up ‘I Fired an Arrow Into The Air’
Based Shat enjoyer
for me it's the episode where an evil white officer stalks a black family that didn't do anything
This is actually what they think happens. Is it possible for an entire race to live in collective denial?
To be fair, I’ve seen something like this happen in real time.
>friend is constructing a dental clinic out in a relatively shit part of town
>there’s a homeless Mexican guy who decides to shack up on that particular plot of land
>have to go tell him to frick off
>show up to the property with cops
>one of the cops is friendlier, but also seemed a bit manic
>was eager to exercise his authority in front of us
>the bum wasn’t on the property at the moment
>a random black guy waiting at the nearby the bus stop gets a bit spooked when he sees us
>as soon as the bus comes by, he tries to get on it ASAP
>cop assumes that’s the guy we’re trying to get rid of, says something along the lines of “I’ll go book him right now,” and starts making for the bus
>my friend and I tell him that’s not the fricking guy and try to get him to calm down
I couldn’t believe what I was fricking seeing. I used to think black folks were overly dramatic about cops abusing them senselessly, but that one moment made it very clear to me how easily a cop can just shit on an innocent person’s day.
look at that nog's face, looks like a demon. permanently angry, permanently stupid.
>hey I'll aggressively use the same movements as someone pulling a gun
yeah because he's dealt with hundreds of others that were guilty and can sense guilty behaviour.
guaranteed that fleeing suspect was guilty of someone else he'd done recently.
I drink and drive around my neighborhood occasionally and illegally buy amphetamines from people I know. If a cop were to arrest me while waiting at a bus stop, do you think that’d be fair?
Innocent until proven guilty exists so that trigger happy cops don’t arrest you for minding your own fricking business.
>If a cop were to arrest me while waiting at a bus stop, do you think that’d be fair?
if you start looking dodgy when you see them then yeah it's fair and you're asking for it
>a black family that didn't do anything
even for the twilight zone that's pretty out there
and then.....
I get the feeling a lot of 'woke' period entertainment is going to be lost. never released again but people will trade copies to marvel at how moronic and evil it all was.
I like how Hollywood takes reality and turns it upside down and then people believe their lie is the truth. Same thing media, academia, and many others do.
This is the quality that made Hideo Kojima agree to partner with Jordan Peele to create KINO.
>ooo, whatcha say
The Midnight Sun. Pure kino.
This, I had a nightmare of this scenario last summer, my a/c had died during the night.
The best episodes are Nightmare at 20,000ft and to serve man but everybody knows them. To serve man looses its impact since everybody knows the ending. Some lesser known great episodes would be
Night Call
A Piano in the house
The Masks
Uncle Simon
Living Doll
Hour Long episodes from season 5
Minature
On thursday we leave for home
There's some THING on the WING
Hang in There
Kino
The 20,000 remake in the TZ movie is God-tier and gave us one of the best references ever....
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THERE’S A MONKE ON THE WING!1!1
season 4 is the one with hour long shows. That being said “on Thursday we leave for home” is pure kino.
Making them an hour long was a mistake as I've always said that the 30 minute format was perfect for anthologies because the longer the episode the more filler needs to be added to pad out the runtime such in the case of season 4 of TZ and The Outer Limits.
Night Gallery had the right idea by doing hour long shows that consisted of two or more short films that don't wear out their welcome.
Also, no one gives Producer Buck Hughton enough credit. He was the backbone of the show and got shit done while Serling was a bit of a flake and lost interest by the end of the third season and one of the reasons why Hughton left.
With season 5 they went back to the 30 minute format but didn't hit the heights of the first 3 despite having some classic episodes such as Nightmare at 20,000 (Directed by Richard Donner of Superman and lethal Weapon etc...) , Living Doll, Number 12 Looks Just Like You, Night Call (which was the inspiration for Kavinsky's song Nightcall https://youtu.be/MV_3Dpw-BRY?si=Bd1c7m5nO6wHcOdc), An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge (which was actually a short film they had purchased), The Masks, Stopover In A Quiet Town and The Bewitchin' Pool (the last two both written by Earl Hamner Jr. along with The Hunt and would later create The Waltons).
TZ was also inspiration for the best pinball game ever made....
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The Last Night of a Jockey
pure unadulterated kino from young mickey rooney, a one man tour de force
Two
The Hunt
>Time Enough to Last.
perfect episode for autists with a happy enlightening conclusion.
>Old Man in the Cave.
my personal favourite.
basically a post nuclear bomb scenerio where the survivors of a remote town get their information on what to do and what not to do by a 'mysterious old man' in a cave that has only one human man allowed to interact with him. to me the whole episode is a premonition of our western society in the clutches of the current AI beast system.
>What episode
And When the Sky Was Opened is the name of the episode in the op
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grave_(The_Twilight_Zone)
Was just about to suggest this one. Kino!
They really flip the idea of a "Wyatt Earp" character by making him secretly afraid and cowardly.
Wyatt earp character? Where theses based off actual people? I didn't realize
No, I just meant any US Marshall in the Wild West. They usually have an alpha male archetype. The protagonist in "The Grave" had false bravado.
Ahh alright I see
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grave_(The_Twilight_Zone)
>Was just about to suggest this one. Kino!
>They really flip the idea of a "Wyatt Earp" character by making him secretly afraid and cowardly.
Always liked the ending....
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Due_on_Maple_Street The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street is timeless. I also really enjoy the one with the nuclear bunker getting destroyed by the guys' friends over a fake scare.
>I also really enjoy the one with the nuclear bunker getting destroyed by the guys' friends over a fake scare.
Parodied beautifully on The Simpsons....
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Game of pool and any other of the jack klugman episodes
Obsolete Man is kino, even if the final minute or so is a little lame
The radio adaptation featuring Jason Alexander (George) is good to
George being the Obsolete Man connects way too well
kek
>I can't be obsolete! I work for Vandalay Industries! VANDALAY!!
The odyssey of flight 33 is shlock kino
I know it's kind of sappy, but "One for the Angels" is my favorite.
"The Fugitive" is mine and has a similar vibe.
printer's devil was my favorite
Mr. Bevis is my personal favorite. I think it's underrated.
mr.Bevis and a passage for trumpet are my two favorites
just general good vibes from both of them
A Game of Pool
Comfiest episode of TV ever
Great episode
the one where Takei banzais out of a window
one of the worst episodes along with a lot of the other ww2 ones
I don't care about the rest of the episode or post wwii bullshit politics for that matter, but takei banzaing out of a window is great.
Most of the are great so this is basically just every episode, but here's the definitive list:
Where Is Everybody?
The Lonely
Time Enough At Last
Judgement Night
And When the Sky Was Opened
And When the Sky Was Opened
I Shot an Arrow into the Air
The Hitch-Hiker
The Last Flight
Elegy
The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street
People Are Alike All Over
The After Hours
King Nine Will Not Return
The Howling Man
Eye of the Beholder
The Invaders
Twenty Two
The Odyssey of Flight 33
Long Distance Call
A Hundred Yards Over the Rim
The Rip Van Winkle Caper
Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up?
The Obsolete Man
Two
The Shelter
The Passersby
The Grave
The Midnight Sun
Five Characters in Search of an Exit
To Serve Man
The Little People
The Dummy
The Changing of the Guard
Miniature
The Parallel
On Thursday We Leave for Home
Nightmare at 20,000 Feet
A Kind of a Stopwatch
Living Doll
The Old Man in the Cave
Probe 7, Over and Out
The 7th Is Made Up of Phantoms
The Long Morrow
Number 12 Looks Just Like You
Black Leather Jacket
Night Call
From Agnes—With Love
Spur of the Moment
An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
Queen of the Nile
The Masks
I Am the Night—Color Me Black
Stopover in a Quiet Town
The Encounter
The Fear
The Bewitchin' Pool
You mean well, but you can't drop 20+ episodes and expect anyone to take u seriously
I like the one where the convict is serving out a prison sentence on a remote planet, but they give him a robo-waifu as company. Then he gets so attached to her, he doesn't want to leave.
I think that one really resonates with most of Cinemaphile.
i liked the gift and death ship
I like the buster keaton one.
What's the one with people in pig masks? That's the image that always sticks out in my mind from Twilight Zone.
The Hitchhiker always creeped me out
Also the one where the electronics talk to the lonely guy.
Also the one where a guy runs someone over with his car, flees the scene, and the car start laying on the horn at night driving the guy crazy with guilt
The Invaders is fricking great
It's not a top episode, but I liked The Jungle episode about superstition and voodoo and stuff.
Some other good ones were the hitch hiker, monsters are due on maple street, time enough to last, will the real martian please stand up, midnight sun, an occurance at owl creek bridge, shiiieet so many classics. Probably the best tv show of all time.
Grab you the essential episodes dvd and marathon those. Shouldn't take you more than an afternoon
Yeah, not only the fact that you were meant to die but universe itself is writing you out of existence is pretty dreadful.
Watch Tales from the Darkside "Slippage"
>This episode is fricking terrifying.
OP, I'm not bullshitting when I say that I was thinking about this episode today and how it exemplified something that only you are aware of and no one else believes you. The fear of being isolated with no help and unable to convince others and that something is going to happen to you and there's nothing that you can do to stop it stop it. The ending is chilling!!!FACT!!!
Here's a good video on this episode.....
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!!!FACT!!!
Why?
Can't you just watch the episode and make up your own mind about it?
>Why?
>Can't you just watch the episode and make up your own mind about it?
I have watched the episode many times but like to hear what others have to say because maybe they might have some insight that I overlooked because I'm not an egotistical c**t who won't listen to others because being proven wrong or enlightened on something that I was unaware of would make me doubt myself and create an existential fear within my subconscious and an uncomfortable feeling of uncertainty every second of the day!!!FACT!!!
>I'm not an egotistical c**t
HAHAHAHA, yet you feel the need to use a name and push your queer FACT meme for years now. Give me a fricking break, namehomosexual.
I haven't seen this episode, or any of the Twilight Zone outside of what I've absorbed from other media. But as a millennial, I'm sorry, I would have found this annoying.
I like my weird space things that do things and the author has the courage to actually tell you what it is as opposed to letting you "imagine what could be".
I don't need everything spelled out. It's just how I like my sci-fi. "What the hell is that and what is it doing?"
>But as a millennial, I'm sorry, I would have found this annoying.
stfu homosexual
It's not about the space thing.
Let me guess, you want the show to also explain how the fuel injectors on the x-20 work?
wasn't there another similar ep? i remember an airplane in a hanger with some passengers and it ends with all of them disappearing except for one military guy. i think even the hanger disappears in the end?
Yes, season 3's The Arrival.
None of these are scary. Cool prompts, well written, memorable, engaging, and cause for thought but never scary.
That's pretty spooky
I don't know the moronic kid with godlike powers was pretty scary.
WHERE'S MY HOT CHOCO O LATE BAR BAR A
For me it’s the mannequin episode
What did his son do that was so bad he would kill him?
Voted for Drumpf
vax status?
why did they dissapear??
They were meant to die, but somehow survived the trip back from space. So they were punished by being erased from existence.
ooohhhh
thanks m8
The GOAT
Not the most clever episode but the performances and shots are god tier
which one is that?
The Obsolete Man
I just watched it. I like how they called out Stalin as a baddie.
my favorite is it's a good life. The short story it's based off of is even spookier since they explain what happened the moment he was born [spoiler[ the doctor who delivered him tries to kill him on the spot and that's when the "child" first uses it's powers to wipe out everyone on earth but the farm town[/spoiler]. It's fricking crazy.
the guy who they throw a birthday party for is literally me when i'm at a party and there is a homosexual in the room too
i agree truly the most disturbing episode.
what is the short story called?
an i never noticed the pictures removed from the walls. the boy must have killed the people in the pictures off and didn't want to be reminded?
http://ciscohouston.com/docs/docs/greats/its_a_good_life.html
thanks man i got such a shit internet connection and that site loaded perfect lmao
>the part where beyond the cornfield is a paradise for animals that he created for them based off their thoughts and desires and how he gets satisfaction from their simple gratitude
is this supposed to be about the old testament god
and i just found out there is a sequel to the tz episode where he has a child with the power to resurrect...lol
It's A Good Life is a great episode while I also love Joe Dante's version for the TZ movie..
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It should also be noted that the voice of Bart Simpson, Nancy Cartwright, played Anthony's "sister" Ethel along with Cherie Currie (lead singer of The Runaways) as his real sister Sara who now does chainsaw sculpting.....
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They did a sequel episode for the 2002 TZ revamp called "It's Still A Good Life" with Bill Mumy returning as Anthony who now has a daughter that has the same powers....
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Finally, Bill Mumy and Robert Haimer would go on to create the band Barnes & Barnes, famous for their song Fish Heads while it's music video was Directed by Bill Paxton (Aliens, Weird Science, R.I.P.) who also appears....
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And you can see a very young Miguel Ferrer (R.I.P.) in their other video Pizza Face....
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hmmm this post would surely get you banished to the cornfield.
>mfw when fish heads is written by bart
dude the TZ movie sucked ass, especially it's a good life. the puppets were fricking stupid and they changed the lore so that it's just the family that's tortured but he can also go in the real world sometimes and even get yelled and and hurt without vaporizing anyone FACT
>dude the TZ movie sucked ass, especially it's a good life. the puppets were fricking stupid and they changed the lore so that it's just the family that's tortured but he can also go in the real world sometimes and even get yelled and and hurt without vaporizing anyone FACT
I agree that the original is superior but I love the cartoonish tone that Dante creates but Gremlins is my 3rd favorite movie of all time, so I may be biased. But there's no way to argue that the 20,000 remake isn't better in every way, except for the shit end with Ackroyd.....
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It's too bad that instead of Landis and Spielberg they couldn't have got Don Coscarelli (Phantasm) and Sam Raimi to have done the other two segments with different stories. Might have been interesting.
I just want a retro black & white TZ show set in the era that the original was made that copies the style and aesthetics that the original show had. Sure CGI would be used but don't over do it by having fancy Blade Runner environments or H.R. Giger style aliens. Draw from pulp Sci-fi/Horror movies/comics and keep things visually simple while there's plenty of great short stories that could be adapted!
Finally, I hate JJ Abrams but will always give him respect for doing an episode of his show Felicity as a homage to the original TZ and even hired Lamont Johnson, who was one of the best original TZ Directors, to Direct it while the episode itself was written by Abrams and Matt Reeves!!!FACT!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3-_wWDT3Ck
Joe Dante’s version of this episode is fantastic, by far the best segment of the movie. Great art direction and imagery
in the short story it's noted that the townspeople only have a few personal effects remaining, such as paintings or instruments or pets, and they take turns with them, swapping them every sunday at church.
It’s the his “odd shadow” for me
My favorite episode as well
how tf can you defeat this lil homie?
I wonder if he would get distracted by a big pair of juicy hooters?
The original Twilight Zone is my favorite TV show and the recent Jordan Peele version was nothing more than racebaiting Black Mirror trash.
When Rod Serling created TZ he was using Sci-fi/Fantasy/Horror to tell tales about the human condition that he couldn't get away with otherwise while working with some of the best people in the business.
Serling believed in fairness and equality but not this SJW "FRICK WHITE PEOPLE!!!" bullshit that raving SJW's spew. TZ were essentially morality tales.
I've been saying for years that the problem with every new version of TZ is that it's set in the era that it's made in. The reason why the original worked was because it had the dichotomy of having all of these weird, horrific, creepy things happen in this 1950's Norman Rockwell white picket fence world.
I've also been saying that I want a TZ remake that's shot in black & white and set in the era of the original. Why the frick is this soo hard to understand?!? It would be cheap and easy to produce. Just adapt great short stories and there's no way you couldn't make a good show.
!!!FACT!!!
For anyone who calls themselves a fan of the original TZ, there are two things that are absolutely essential;
The Twilight Zone Companion by Marc Scott Zicree and the American Master's doc on Rod Serling which you can watch on YouTube although the picture quality isn't great!!!FACT!!!
!!!FACT!!!
I watched that doc 10 years ago to understand his writing and realized no one writes like that anymore and that was during the shitty wall street protest. Now it is even worse.
Why does no one write stories or tv like that anymore wtf happened?
Here's some insight into Serling as a writer...
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While I love that Brian DePalma had him do the opening narration for The Phantom of the Paradise....
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Only to die the next year R.I.P.!!!FACT!!!
Where the frick did you find the first clip?
Serling seems so nervous saying umm and other verbal fillers during an interview. A modest motherfricker.
He sounds like a normal human being. Like a teacher almost. Damn. He was a huge influence in me majoring in English when I was in college 15 years ago. Too bad all college writing now is woke and terrible. No sense of wonder and love for the craft of writing stories.
>Where the frick did you find the first clip?
Just type "Rod Serling interview, writing" into YouTube and you should get a list of clips...
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And here's Serling talking about casting that mirrors the problems of today....
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And him on censorship...
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>Rule 4. Write with a desperate urgency
wished George R. R. Martin followed this rule
ty
I find parodies of tz better than a remake because in order to parody it you have to understand it.
>I find parodies of tz better than a remake because in order to parody it you have to understand it.
That's why I always loved the Simpsons TZ parodies...
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Not sure if this a direct reference, but this bit always reminded me of the episode Judgment Night where the guy doesn't remember how he got aboard a ship that soon gets attacked by a German U-boat commanded by himself
For me, it's The Scary Door
>The reason why the original worked was because it had the dichotomy of having all of these weird, horrific, creepy things happen in this 1950's Norman Rockwell white picket fence world.
you're sooo close to understand why the Peele reboot did what it did, yet so far it's very funny
>you're sooo close to understand why the Peele reboot did what it did, yet so far it's very funny
What I understand is that he wanted to use it to shove race baiting identity politics into it while the original was, not always, more subtle with its messaging about fairness and quality compared to Jordan's "FRICK WHITE PEOPLE!!!" approach!!!FACT!!!
>you're sooo close to understand why the Peele reboot did what it did, yet so far it's very funny
why don't you enlighten us, o wise anon?
Horseshit. Any real TW fan knows he's on record at basing the show on leftist messages he presented through allegories. And yes, that included white man bad.
>And yes, that included white man bad.
Ok, but it's obviously far more subdued. People who try to muddy the waters and act like the original Twilight Zone is just as bad as "The American Society of Magical Black folks" are delusional. The only example of "white man bad" from the original series I can think of is the episode where Dennis Hopper plays a George Lincoln Rockwell-esque neo-Nazi. But since Rod Serling was israeli, his hatred of Nazis is not really surprising.
There's differences between the political messages in the older Twilight Zone. Mainly two:
>Better writing that balances both entertainment, and message, rather than favoring messaging over entertainment value
and
>Evergreen messages that are relevant even today. The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street, and The Shelter, shows that humans are self-interested, and innately paranoid. And, if we're not careful, it can be the death of us all. The Obsolete Man shows the danger of allowing government censorship.
Compare that to "Lmao the kid is a president! Get it? It's like we have a CHILD as our president!", and it's so far ahead, it's ridiculous. The messages of the old Twilight Zone are universal, and timeless, not just a vent session on current affairs.
Exactly right, the stories in The Twilight Zone were written to be universally appealing fables. They aren’t didactic. Rod Serling was a total libshit but the show made sure not to shove everything down your throat most of the time. The writing excels in its metaphor. Nowadays, nothing would be as subtle.
Threads like these remind me that allegory and storytelling really is a lost art these days.
if i am the night color me black was a part of the jordan peele tw then jagger wouldve faced no consequences for his actions
what's the context of this episode?
>Her name: X-20. Her type: an experimental interceptor. Recent history: a crash landing in the Mojave Desert after a thirty-one hour flight nine hundred miles into space. Incidental data: the ship, with the men who flew her, disappeared from the radar screen for twenty-four hours.
>USAF Lieutenant Colonel Clegg Forbes arrives at a military hospital to visit his friend and co-pilot Major William Gart. The two had recently piloted an experimental spaceplane, the X-20. During their voyage the craft disappeared from radar screens for a full day before reappearing and crash landing in the desert, leaving Gart with a broken leg. Forbes is agitated and asks Gart if he remembers how many people were on the mission. Gart confirms that only he and Forbes piloted the plane, but Forbes insists that a third man – Colonel Ed Harrington, his best friend for 15 years – accompanied them.
why is the headline changing each time?
Reality is changing as each man begins to realize he is about to be erased from existence. When the first guy gets the feeling that something is off and that they shouldn't be there, he calls his parents and they say they have no son.
What are some episodes people think are bad that you enjoy? I like the moronic baseball player one
The Forty Fathom Grave for me.
Best was the one where there's like nuclear annihilation or whatever and guy's last man on Earth. He's like "frick yeah, I hated everybody, glad they're dead, now I'm gonna read books all day" and then he breaks his glasses
Scary shit
if you pause it you can see a few books in braille so he's fine.
but then his hands fell off
some of the surviving Kindles would have still had a charge and contained a plethora of audio books.
>some of the surviving Kindles would have still had a charge and contained a plethora of audio books.
But then his ears fell off!!!FACT!!!
but then the ears woke up from the dream...
but who was rest of face?
How are you going to learn to read braille with no one around to teach you and no glasses available to read about it?
So there's no abandoned optometrist building anywhere in the city or town he was in? They have glasses
>just find a glasses store and perfect lenses for your eyes in post-nuclear fallout 1960s, without a car! XDD
Yeah. It's not that hard. Do you think he's completely bind with his glasses?
He obviously has no time to go around his town to find some glasses
Why wouldn't he have time? He has nothing but time.
I think To Serve Man has the mist satisfying twist of any episode. Maybe not the best but it’s sure something after all the buildup.
Does anyone think Serling gets perhaps a bit too much credit when he was mostly adapting works of other sci-fi writers? How many original stories did he write?
Not really. Sure a lot were adaptations but he really gets credit with bringing them to life, and no one could present quite like him. Also deserves credit for being a quality filter; as he’d say him and his team could get like 4,000 submissions and maybe 12 would be worth the paper they were written on
>Does anyone think Serling gets perhaps a bit too much credit when he was mostly adapting works of other sci-fi writers? How many original stories did he write?
He wrote quite a few originals but you can't deny that it was his vision and luckily had people who supported him and steered the show in the right direction, same as Gene Coon with Star Trek and Gary Kurtz who Produced Star Wars, Empire and Raiders before Lucas shitcanned him for Empire going over budget and Lucas just wanting to turn Jedi into a remake of A New Hope and ghost Directing it through Richard Marquand, which Kurtz disagreed with!!!FACT!!!
I make a point not to read posts written by namegays.
For me it’s five characters in search of an exit
>mr sterling we got a new story to develop
>*long drag of cigarette*
>make it a racial allegory and put a nuke in it
Which is the worst episode in your opinion?
The Bewitching Pool, the very last episode of the show.
the preachy ones.
like the one with the holocaust abortion doctor being praised as an essential hero one day then deemed sinister evil the next because he corrected a woman biographer 60 years later
or the one where the southern colonel 'racist' keeps wakes up from a nap and his once proud strong respectable white sons turn into skinny weak jive talking black kids.
no the worst one is the business man who builds a robot to eliminate all the old workers jobs from the factory he took over from his father and then the robot of course ends up taking his job too.
>hating on the robot episode
It’s always been pretty relevant about being careless towards human value over machines for the sake of just efficiency. You could replace the robots with illegal workers and get the same message.
there's is one weak episode where richard basehart lands on a distant planet in his damaged spaceship. He communicated with earth on the radio and finds out a nuclear war has started and they can never come rescue him. But fortunately there is a QT there for him to make friends with and oh his name is adam and hers is eve.
I enjoyed that one
Put that apple back you dumb broad
/slaps
I remember there being one with a pool game that was a chore to sit through
had the same lame israelite in it as the trumpet one.
both dire
that episode about the lion killing that industrialist guy. it's ham-fisted, isn't scary or thought-provoking, and makes no sense.
I had a friend in high school whom I cannot find in my yearbook or social media. I looked at some prom pictures and he's not in any of them. I swear he existed but everyone thinks I'm crazy so I don't talk about it with anyone.
don't know f you are trolling but....same thing happened to me.
30 years ago i had someone in grade 6, a cool girl from another school that we all had a crush on, stay only 1 year and then leave. but the 3-4 people i still keep in contact with from that time think i am making her up. granted i can't recall her name but the way she dressed and looked and where she sat are very clear. but those guys, they genuinely are confused when i bring up situations with that girl, situations that we were all around and part of and had consequences with other events, definitely not isolated....but just blank stares and a slightly disturbed laugh on their part 'oh anon you always were a strange cat'. i have since stopped bringing her up and might have been quite a few years since i did but thanks to your post i am going to jerk off to my totally real core memory of making out with in her while the space hog cd changes over to muddy banks at the whiskah in the new 5 disc changer her dad's kick ass hi fi had in his semi finished north end basement.
I believe you. I found that I actually have an outstanding memory. Most normies are unbelievably forgetful and can't really remember anything a year out.
same gay schizoid
well as a fellow district grand autist over here i have the same issue.
i can recall instantly specific dates when albums or movies came out and what i was doing then and what others were doing to. 'anon you know me more than i know myself!' very common phrase directed to me.
yet i am the one accused of having a faulty memory in regards to a girl that we were all experiencing together for a year? but i assume they think i am up to something dastardly and occult when i start flapping my arms accusing those gays of insanity especially when i tell them..again...the reason she is not in the yearbook is because she came late in the year.
based noticer and normie exposer. they dont deserve you
Frick. Why does God do this to us? I remember mine. Her name was Maddy. She would hang out with my sister and I and the neighborhood kids, play pokemon, Turok evolution, and never winter nights.
>I had a friend in high school whom I cannot find in my yearbook or social media. I looked at some prom pictures and he's not in any of them. I swear he existed but everyone thinks I'm crazy so I don't talk about it with anyone.
I actually had something like this happen to me.
Last week I had to go to the doctor at a walk-in clinic. I haven't been there in over a year but the Doctor I saw at the time was taller than me, black and heavy built like a football player with his head shaved. I go back and he's still black, has his head shaved but now shorter than me and very skinny with a small frame
Despite having the same name I swear it's not the same person I saw last year!
FINALLY, SHE HAD FRICKING BRACES!!!FACT!!!
no fricking way that eerie, you must've mixed him up with someone else
He didn't exist, stop thinking about him.
She didn't either, close your eyes and don't think about her.
He got old, stop overthinking.
Don't think about her, schizo.
alright, ive taken the notes, where now do I watch these episodes? what service stream them?
paramount +
FRICK! They aren't on Netflix anymore?
It's a commentary on news propaganda. thats one aspect. at the time analogous to Soviet propaganda but nowadays more analogous to the state controlled media propaganda of the U.S. as well as globally
Does MeTV still do the New Year's Eve marathon?
That marathon was always my favorite part about new years
Sci Fi channel does them now I think
Is it anything like this? I'm still pissed off Prime pulled Twilight Zone, I can't be arsed looking it up and downloading now.
10 gigs for dvd quality on pirate bay. have a few thumb drives with the collection on it that i bring to parties as background conversation starters.
If you want a rarely recommended episode, On Thursday we leave for home is good. It is a S4 choice.
Otherwise I like all the standard choices.
>Willoughby! Next stop, Willoughby!
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Die I guess
True kino coming through
These are my two favorite episodes.
downloading seasons 1-5 right now, will watch it later with mom 😀
Watch it drunk on new years eve and sober up with it the next day.
Just bought the box set recently. Saving it for Christmas though
>Just bought the box set recently. Saving it for Christmas though
I got the box set a long time ago, and worth every penny, but the lack of the American Masters doc is a glaring omission.
Anywho, I'd also recommend Kino Lorber's release of all three seasons of Night Gallery which are fantastic and includes the original TV pilot with Steven Spielberg's Directorial debut, Eyes - starring Joan Crawford, and my personal favorite segment, The Cemetery, Directed by the before mentioned late Boris Sagal while here's the excellent score by Billy Goldenberg.....
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I was also able to find the original trailer for the pilot...
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And some interviews with Spielberg on his Night Gallery experience....
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I actually think they had a good idea and it was absurd that the cost of gold would not at least be what it worth in the past if not way, way more in the future. Just set the wake up to 60 years to be safe.
Somewhat on topic but Boris Sagal, who directed the TZ episodes The Silence and The Arrival, went on to Direct The Omega Man, based on TZ writer Richard Matheson's novel I Am Legend (adapted as Last Man On Earth starring Vincent Price in 1964 and the awful 2007 Will Smith abomination, while also the basis for Night of the Living Dead) and scored by Ron Grainer who created the theme for Doctor Who....
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Whose composes a beautiful and haunting melancholic soundtrack...
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Finally, Sagal was the father of Katey Sagal (Peggy from Married with Children and Leela from Futurama) and was killed in an accident during production of the miniseries World War III, when he was partially decapitated by walking into the tail rotor blades of a helicopter in the parking lot of the Timberline Lodge in Oregon. An investigation revealed that he turned the wrong way after exiting the helicopter. He died five hours later in a Portland hospital.
!!!FACT!!!
The Monsters are due on Maple Street was always a favorite of mine. I’m old enough to have seen them when they first aired.
>I’m old enough to have seen them when they first aired.
Get a load of this grandpa
Nick of Time is my fave. The Passerby runner up probably but there are so many good ones.
Mirror Image spooked me.
Me too. I thought it was going to be yet another purgatory story but it had one of the most memorable endings imo
I remember years ago watching an edit of Planet of the Apes (which Serling wrote) that was really good. Basically they cut it down into a 30 min black and white Twilight Zone episode with narration and all and it was great. Worked really well.
Sounds entertaining hope to find it so I can watch
Bryan Singer said in the X-Men 2 commentary that he lifted this shot of Mystique transforming.....
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Of the Devil walking behind the pillars from The Howling Man....
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!!!FACT!!!
Mr. Garrity and the Graves is a good one while I love the twist at the end, sorry about the shit quality....
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!!!FACT!!!
Remember the kino one where the dead men of the civil war march home and the southern lady meets Lincoln at the end of the line, realizing she’s been dead for weeks?
i'm going to download this and watch it, never seen any before, so only the original series in black & white is any good?
The original series is the best. 1980s is alright 2002 less good newest one is unwatchable
It just keeps getting worse and worse
>i'm going to download this and watch it, never seen any before, so only the original series in black & white is any good?
The 80's revival has its moments, while I love the opening intro with music by The Grateful Dead....
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But they made each episode of the first two seasons an hour long, creating the same problems as I mentioned before with that format, with only 4 episodes being 30 minutes, then stuck with that for all of season 3, which was the last season.
Every new version has been utter fricking trash and since I brought them up...
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!!!FACT!!!
Good on you to hop onto the best tv series ever made.
yes all the reboots suck shit just watch the original black and white ones
It’s A Good Life is the best episode. Really great performances and the idea of killing a kid to get out of the situation is so dark today nevermind when it first came out
The one where the hypochondriac sells his soul to the devil for immortality and invulnerability is fun and surprisingly light-hearted.
I liked the one where the guy takes the bet to shut the hell up for a while year, and to verify it, they build him a cage in the rich persons club.
I love anthology TV shows. Recently bought Alfred Hitchwiener Presents/Hour as well as Tales Of The Unexpected to dig into over Christmas
>I love anthology TV shows. Recently bought Alfred Hitchwiener Presents/Hour as well as Tales Of The Unexpected to dig into over Christmas
Anthologies are the best format for Horror, same as short stories in general as they can be straight to the point with no filler.
Tales from the Crypt was a good example but it kinda had the opposite problem that they were adapting stories from the comics that could barely fill out a 30 minute runtime and led to a lot of padding while Night Gallery's hour long multiple story format would have been better suited.
One thing I'd love to see is a fully animated 2D Horror anthology show and I don't know why it hasn't been done while Love+Death&Robots doesn't fit the bill as it's more Sci-fi and uses multiple styles with no consistency!!!FACT!!!
>that episode where the guy goes back in time and falls in love with a school teacher
>only for a lame loony-tunes tier """"""accident""""" to ruin it and """convince""" the guy he can't stay
always hated TZ's short-sighted and lame strawmans
one of my least favorite gimmicks along with "getting free wishes/things will always monkey-paw because humans le stupid 🙂 "
that shit was so fricking stupid just kill the horse
Or a chemist. Lots of places stock eyeglasses
room for one more, honey
>it's a bottle episode
>it's actually good
Charles Beaumont wrote some great ones, his books of short stories are excellent as well. It's a shame how he just suddenly fell ill with the chronic disease and wasted away. Some insiders mentioned that it got so bad, that he couldn't even sell his scripts at meetings, because his mental state was so bad.
most people have you filtered and no one cares who you are.
Most people are moronic.
I found his info to be very interesting and I would never filter him. You, on the other hand...
What was the twist? I have the box set, but it’s been years since I watched them.
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Wanna say that I've really enjoyed this thread as it's refreshing to have people who actually want to talk about something compared to the NPC wasteland the catalogue usually is.
Thanks to all of you for your contributions, even if you were being a c**t.
Goodnight...
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!!!FACT!!!
Please do not post in the upcoming comfy TZ NYE marathon threads, thanks.
excellent interesting youtube links friend.
what is your take on Old Man in the Cave and how it relates to todays AI Beast system?
I suck dick
!!!FACT!!!
~30 minutes episodes > the later ~60 minute episodes
Does anyone else find it weird that a 1950s science fiction show is more profound than most art being made today? Some of these episodes are absolutely brilliant, still relevant today and worth anyone’s time
It's certainly harder to write something good that resonates with a lot of people today for a few reasons. First, so many stories have already been told, it is hard not to be derivative. Second, there is less mystery to the world as technology has progressed and people have become more informed and connected to each other, even if that connection isn't genuine in person connection. Third, there are so many more things competing these days for your attention that I feel writers don't want to risk being nuanced and subtle for fear of being overlooked. Or I guess all writers these days are shit idk.
The episode where the guy punches his b***h wife out the fricking window is the best one
There's too many good ones to choose from but I'm fond of the episode where he passes through his old town and it's essentially a time capsule and he meets his younger self and his parents
I always thought it was kind of sweet and melancholy
That was Rod Serling’s favorite episode
The only episodes of these types of shows (TZ, outer limits) that scared me were :
the crazy guy maintaining a rube goldberg machine that, if left unattended, will destroy the world, eventually dies and the main character is compelled to run the machine in his stead
the episode (outer limits I think) where someone sees faces in stains on the walls/ceiling and eventually people start to protrude from the walls to pull the main character in
some random loser finds a weird immobile "fish" in a fishtank that is actually psychic and starts to manifest its will
Do all Twilight Zone episodes have a deeper or perhaps philosophical meaning or are some of them just spooky with nothing more to it?
The Monsters are Due on Maple Street is just a silly fun episode about aliens playing a prank.
Not all of them. A lot of them have real messages to them, others are just fun science fiction stories. Like the one where the couple wander through an abandoned town and then the ending reveals they are actually kidnapped by a giant girl who uses them as toys in a fake toy town
There's plenty that are just sci-fi or fantasy silliness.
>The confederate army finds a satantic spell book.
>Some woman pushes her uncle down the stairs, and is surprised he gets turned into a robot, so she'll never inherit the house.
>Aliens come down with a book titled To Serve Man, and it's revealed it's actually a cook book.
>A little boy is given God powers, and becomes a tyrant
>A dolly is evil, and talks.
>A woman keeps seeing a hitchhiker. Turns out she actually died years ago.
And many more. Boiled down, there's really only three types of stories in The Twilight Zone: The Greatest Enemy of Man is Man, Deals With the Devil Never End Well, and sci-fi shenanigans.
>A little boy is given God powers, and becomes a tyrant
>A dolly is evil, and talks
These ones I remember the most because of Johnny Bravo episodes that parodied them.
>The confederate army finds a satantic spell book
What episode was that? Cause I remeber the one with a Road where soldiers were dead and the lincoln was at the end?
Still Valley https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Valley.
You seem to be recalling The Passerby, by the way https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passersby
Both episodes have somefin to do with civil war.
While it seems this thread is about to die, I want to thank you gentlemen for a good twilight zone thread.
Great episode.
How does Night Gallery compare to Twilight Zone?
Not as classic, but quite enjoyable. More horror/sci-fi themed.
Also as a good movie suggestion, the Italian film Cemetery Man is very fitting to the TZ style in many ways
For anyone for anyone looking for an actually good modern take on the TZ formula, check out Inside No. 9.
Anything after the Rod Sterling era worth watching?
the monsters are due on maple street is great and it was written by serling
every episode of the twilight zone is the same
Anyone listen to the Twilight Highlight Zone podcast? It was done by two Game Informer editors that watched and reviewed every original episode. It's a comfy friendship simulator and fun to listen to as you work through the episodes.
No, but that sounds extremely feminine. I wish you luck on your transition.
twilight zone really is max comfy new years is coming up lads get ready for the marathon