The Witcher series had so much potential.
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You mean neurotic israeli hags with mommy issues
They spoiled it with Black folk and gay singing. Trust Netflix to ruin shit with race mixing.
not really, the books are mostly shit, was hilarious seeing autists pretend the netflix show had ruined some masterpiece
Ya the books were pretty bad. I loved all the games and have beaten each on multiple times so I tried to read the book and they’re really not very good. But it doesn’t change the fact that the Witcher series had so much potential, just don’t adapt the books. It’s not that hard to make a show with Geralt, Dandelion, Zoltan, Ciri, and Yennefer/Triss going on adventures, fighting different monsters. Taking an episodic approach with different monsters/setting most episodes and then tying it all together with some overarching plot. Also it should have been animated.
>zoltan
I love that lil homie like you wouldn't believe
The book series itself was never that good and the author knew. They started as short stories where the whole thing was just putting a twist on a classic fable or faity tale and watching Geralt figuring out how to defeat whatever weird creature/curse. The short stories are the best.
The Last Wish is still pretty solid at least
How hard is it to frick up ‘buff dude travels the land killing monsters and slaying pussy’?
every easy apparently
you just need to to ignore the main character in favor of side characters, change the structure of events and insert your own shitty OC
you could also say: just let women be in charge
What's wrong with the books? I read The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny and enjoyed them. Is the main saga really that bad?
>Is the main saga really that bad?
I wouldn't call it bad but the short stories contained in The Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are clearly better.
Depends on how much you hate bratty Ciri and Geralt being extra sulky and going "aaaah my knee" for two books or so. It still has amazing characters and epiosdes that you'd really wish to see adapted in some sort of TV show that isn't going to shit the bed, but not in this lifetime I guess. It couldn't be anthology forever, the series had to go somewhere considering the set up was already in the first books.
The books feel like a subversion of the wandering fellowship trope which I like. The ending is terrible though. It's the reason why I'm glad the games exist as a continuation, even if Sapkowski doesn't consider them to be canon.
>even if Sapkowski doesn't consider them to be canon.
interestingly enough sapcuckski seeing how shit the show is inspired him to write a new book
The books were fine. Every time a show does bad you get posts saying the source material was bad.
>the books are mostly shit,
hyperbolic posts like this are moronic
the books are ok, mediocre, steal too much from other books, and the local myth stuff gets sidelined too much
also short stories really could use a better overarching plot, and the saga could use less moronic escalation of scales
also i felt the writer kept projecting too much on Geralt, he goes from the best swordsman in the world on one page to having problems with a farmer with a knife the next, to being too old for this shit, to being in amazing physical condition and back to being a grampa
you could tell the writer as he aged started projecting his out of shape life on his characters, fricker was like 40 when he wrote it, but i would think he was 80, thats the problem with commie boomers, never worked a day in their life
>show made by israelites in the year of our lord 2000+
yeah... so much povtential, so much sovl... almost
Had
A lot of things have potential. Unfortunately we're living in dark times where writing and casting is concerned.
Damn good choreo
too many stupid ass spin moves
Same with the games.
In witcher 3 if you max out the dodge skill every fight is 75% spinning.
I seem to remember a lot of "Geralt spun out of the way" in the books.
geralt's spins towards the end of the clip are kinda okay but the beginning of the fight the girl spins every fricking move and it looks stupid
I mean, in a knife fight turning your back on your opponent would just give them a massive opening and a lovely target. Besides, I wasn't defending the clip, just referencing the books. The show completely botched The Lesser Evil and it's obvious the writers/showrunner either never read it or failed to understand it at all.
>I mean, in a knife fight turning your back on your opponent would just give them a massive opening and a lovely target.
obviously but there are ways to do them that look good on video and you can excuse the occasional spin but not that many
what did he mean by this?
he has good taste in women and is waiting for her to be legal
This girl should have been.castl as Triss instead of the mongoloid we got
hell yes
Reminder this could have been Millie Brady as qhe was cast first for this role but she was too good for this slop
Renfri was about the only compelling character. Show peaked so early lmao
funny how none of this gay ass shit happened in real sword fights 1000 years ago, it wall all randomly swinging with as much body weight as possible and blunt damage
>Had
No. Even Henry isn't suited for the role of Geralt, and he's the most fitted compared to the other band of misfit outcasts
Said the same thing since the start, Henry is too much of a nuscular, handsome dude. He is Superman, not Geralt. Geralt is tall, lanky, creepy looking, but still alluring in a dark way. Henry never fit that and they never even tried. Still, he is very much a fan of Witcher and brought in a lot of Star Power. And the rest of the show starred literal who's. They fricked up, a dude like that only bothers with stuff like this if they take a paycut and they are fans, but the weird b***hes and their catty clique ran him off. Season 4 is gonna bomb hard without him.
so like robert patterson?
throw a mop on his head and I can see it. but at the same time he's too young looking still. Geralt is like an old man isn't he? He has that slavic weariness of the face.
yeah he's like 100 in witcher 3 because his mutations give him increased longevity but he also has increased youthfulness
come to think of it i dont know what the downside of the mutations is apart from the trial of the grasses hurting like a motherfricker
oh and it makes you infertile but who cares its not like you could provide for a family youre a witcher and youre going to be zipping around the continent boning sorceresses who also are infertile
...
goddamnit i think the anon who called this fanfic-tier writing might have a point
i think it's supposed to do something to your mind as well as your body, and combined with their upbringing basically the witchers are all uber autists who can only dedicate themselves to monster hunting forever. And in order to survive that trial amongst other witcher stuff you have to having that child soldier upbringing first. It is a power fantasy, but one with a lot of baggagge. It's a lot different that say, Harry Potter where if you are a wizard you are basically set for life and there is little to no downsides.
Also you end up as an outcast because nobody feels comfortable around some magically-crafted killing machine, so everyone hates you and your only companions are your fellow Witchers or other maladjusted outcasts
>downside of the mutations
according to Geralt they numb emotions, but I think it's just something he made up. but witchers are sterile due to the mutations
most of them die in the process iirc so it's more the only ones who survive don't have to deal with the drawbacks
The 90% mortality rate would probably be seen as a drawback.
One of the drawbacks is living your life being treated as a freak by everyone you meet, even the people who need you to do shit for them. I'm pretty sure there's a few instances in both the books and the game where Geralt risks his life for a payday and when he goes to collect his employer just says "lol, frick off you mutated weirdo". All that while also knowing your parents sold you to a stranger who they knew would most likely end up killing you. But yeah, woo hoo, you survived the trial of the grasses. Go you!.
>zipping around the continent boning sorceresses who also are infertile
I'm pretty sure that was all Geralt the rest of them got zero sorceress pussy. Lambert gets some after you're done with her but that's the only other time I can think of.
One of my favorite parts of the books is when people shit themselves on seeing him. The part under the wagon had me crying.
I only know Geralt from the games and in Witcher 3 he isn't ugly either. Also, Cavill's passion for the Witcher universe is important imo and worth any possible difference regarding his looks.
It was a train-wreck from the start and somehow it only got worse. Quite the metaphor tbqh.
I really liked season 3
You now remember ballsack armor
>current era
>potential
No.
season 1 was below-average, generic high-fantasy slop and that was with a great lead, established fanbase, hype, and gigantic budget. it was always going to be objective trash, henry just took too long to see how much of a waste of his time it was.
>first episode has one good fight scene mostly done in one shot so you see everything
>every fight scene afterwards has multiple cuts with shaky cam
this pissed me off the most
an opinion I never express because I don't want to seem contrarian, but I the the Witcher 1 is better than 2 and 3. It's amazing they did it on the NWN engine.
the witcher 3 sucked because it was a bloated boring mess, ubisoft garbage tier map.
Lol. The Witcher 1 gameplay was awful and boring and is a game only worth playing for the story. Witcher 2 and 3 are better in every way.
I disagree, and I want to know what you think is ''bad'' about TW1's gameplaye in contrast to consolified TW2 and Ubisoft tier TW3.
lol witcher 1 had such horrible crappy fanfic story that it was no reason to play for it
single 'omg village people are all evil!' and then fanfics about super mutants and saturdays morning cartoon villains
on release people played it only for sex cards
>on release people played it only for sex cards
Bait, but you got me. I played it back in the day because I heard it was a good RPG if a bit jank. I didn't even know sex cards were a thing.
not even baiting - sex cards were the only thing people cared about on release. outside of how horrible buggy, unplayable mess it was before ee
>buggy, unplayable mess
which it wasn't, I still have the fat box of the original physical release. I got through the game fine, unpatched. the frick are you talking about g?
and no, people weren't talking about the sex cards back then.
>which it wasn't
what the hell are you talking about?
I have original release box on my shelf, you fraud
the game was so bad on release, that even a friend of mine created a monkey patch to fix memory requirements that were thrown at last moment to help with loading times
the only thing that you could even read it media were: bugs, sex cards, horrible loading times and every npc model looked the same, as there was no variety and thry only added extra models in ee edition
game needed a whole overpatch to make it playable, which was combined in Enchanced Edition version
hell, even now bunch of stuff is just not working and game can lock you from being able to finish it
Smart people like me got the collector’s edition with the art book including the sex cards so you didn’t even have to play the game.
It's fine. It's mostly just undercooked rather than outright bad
i agree, but at the same time I wouldn't call it undercooked. this was a game made pre-dragon's dogma and dark souls, so the idea of fusing an RPG and an action game was lost on european developers. the combat wasn't worked out yet.
it's still a god tier game
>the idea of fusing an RPG and an action game was lost on european developers.
Man, action RPGs were a staple of Eurojank by that point. Gothic, Arx Fatalis, the Divinity series. Two Worlds came out the same year as The Witcher, and Dark Messiah was just the year before.
Gothic series always sucked so let me reiterate, the idea of GOOD action RPG's was something we westerners couldn't do. I love the RPGs we make and Planescape Torment is one of my favourite video games all time. but games like TESand Gothic feel like trash to play
do not kid yourself, Japan greatly improved it with Souls games, Monster Hunter and using shit like DMC, Ninja Gaiden and so on as examples. frick that new God of War too, cinemnatic TRASH.
>Gothic series always sucked
Thank you for frontloading your post with confirmation that you are a moron
go frick yourself and take your elder scrolls- lite with you. TES sucks too. Problem?
piranhabytes were a shitty developer and should have died years ago. frick offf.
>Gothic
> elder scrolls- lite
It's like you're intentionally trying to outclass your moronation with each new post
gay, gothic is trash. so is elex.
I'm not schizo enough to understand what this image is meant to convey
It means I actually play RPGs, and Gothic is trash.
>It means I actually play RPGs
Those are all like 'babby's first RPG rec' games bruv
kek, as opposed to? what super secret underground CRPGs are you playing, bro? I have icewind dale in a big box with a god tier manual that almost works as a DND ruleset.
>what super secret underground CRPGs are you playing, bro?
You're the guy trying to flex your credentials here, moron
you're right, baldur's gate 2 and 3, planescape torment and fallout 1 2 are traaaaaaaaaaaash, so enlighten me on good CRPGs bro.
please. I'm fricking dying to hear it.
lmao, frick off you disingenuous homosexual. You made the utterly moronic claim that action RPGs were some sort of alien concept to Euro developers, when anyone with even a passing interest in the genre knows that's moronic and that Euro developers had been experimenting with combining action and RPG elements for decades. And all you have to say in response to these well-known titles being named is
>uh-buh-buh but I played BG2 and Arcanum tho so actually that doesn't count!!!
You are the biggest moron around
you're so obviously a butthurt samegay, enjoy the euroslop, but stop talking to me, you consider Dark Messiah an RPG. you exposed yourself, moron.
>enjoy the euroslop,
Anon, this is a thread about The Witcher.
shutup
fricking moron
watch out anon next he's gonna accuse you of editing the pic lol
meanwhile based chads like us have superior taste in RPGs
you have passive aggressive female mentality, and are yet to post an RPG better than BG2, BG3 and PST.
>, and are yet to post an RPG
That's not even me lmao, I'm the Anon who you for some reason felt the need to show off your RPG list to and then demanded I start naming RPGs.
I don't see why though, because it wouldn't change the fact that European devs had been making action RPGs for years before The Witcher.
i posted chroma squad, eye, dark messiah and enclave and all are infinitely superior to baldur's twat
>i posted a bunch of non-rpgs
congrsats on having downs syndrome
>i posted a bunch of non-rpgs
so what defines rpg then, homosexual? do you consider witcher to be an rpg? if so then all of those are rpgs as well
Are you serious right now? If you consider those RPGs then you may as well consider modern Call of Duty an rpg.
you haven't answered my question Black person
what defines an rpg?
based on a tabletop rpg (even loosely), has customizable stats that affect your gear and what you're able to put on, has traditional TT classes
as expected, you have no clue what you're talking about lmao. now kys while i continue to enjoy my rpg kino.
>it means i play rpgs
>the most casual and common slop available
lmao homosexual, this is what a real RPG player's list consists of, not your crap
the only good RPG here is EYE, and it;'s arguable that it's an RPG in the first place. bards tale sucked, and Dark Messiah despite being a great game is NOT an RPG, it's probably the only might & magic game you have LMAO
kys tryhard
gothic 1 and 2 are fricking amazing, like actual immersive properly done rpg
the combat is jank by current year standards but if you can learn it then the two games are about the best rpg vidya out there
TES are terrible in comparison
risen, elex and whatever else modern attempts at gothic are all trash
also Dark Messiah is not a fricking RPG!
Why did you have to remind me about my demon waifu. Now I need to replay that game again.
it's not undercooked it was just made on an engine not designed for what cdpr had in mind
i'm amazed they got it to work the way it did
now let me offer a daring synthesis of these opinions: witcher 1 was good at the time and is still good BECAUSE the gameplay is janky and the menus are innavigable
I don't understand, what's wrong with the menus? it's fairly typical of a mid 2000's european rpg
It only took a few episodes of season 1 before I was done. Black Triss, Yen, Frinjila, to name a few. What a joke. The final straw was the Black person elf with a fro. Didn't bother watching further after that. Absolute garbage.
imagine spending time and money on this
Sad.
Is it true the feminist producers created those armors to look like a scrotum as a inside dig at the fans or was this just very bad design and a story made up after by anti-witcher show fans?
yes. nilfgaard are le ebil empire so of course their amazing and beautiful armor from TW3 is extremely probablematic so they had to look like black wiener and balls
it was a shit design and the power of autism believing anything they read online, if it was some epic feminist agenda to dab on the fans they wouldn't have spent money to make new armor for the second season, they would have doubled down.
This makes more sense. I didn't even notice they changed the armor in S2 tbh, just skipped through some episodes and your correct they gave them proper black/gold armor. It's still hard to imagine anyone could make that S1 armor and think it was a good idea though
considering what publicly came out about the showrunners in the past few years, i honestly wouldn't be shocked if it were a true story
It's crazy they patched this into the game like anybody fricking wants that.
it was pure fricking shit from the start
I was losing my mind with how every normie praised season 1
>The Witcher series had so much potential.
no it didn't
it was made by netflix danger haired women who care more about casting nonwhites than they care about story
and it's not like the books are great either. the short stories are solid but the main saga is a slog
this show could not have been worse even if it was on the CW, with Jensen ackles as geralt
yeah we were robbed of proper henry kino, this seems to be the norm for israelitelywood these days
They willfully made it bad too. They could have made something good but they chose do make it bad on purpose. Frick these b***hes.
I like his studded leather gimp suit masquerading as armour
It should've been an anime
It already is and it sucks too you fricking weeb moron.
American produced cartoons animated by dog-eaters aren't anime, anon
Zero difference, considering how much of "nippon cartoons" is being outsourced to Koreans too at this point.
All anime is shit, regardless of the eye shape and degree of bugness of who created it
>the band dying one by one at Stygga
Moments men are allowed to cry at. Especially Angouleme made me tear up.
The only good the show gave us was The Song of the White Wolf
>Angouleme
My homie. Nobody even mentions her.
>what if we v0-0s1rxgkvf8wa1
what did you mean by this
The English translation was done in haste and poorly to ride the hype around the game.davt
The lack of blacks in Avatar is straight up peculiar.
Cavill sucks at acting. Michael B. Can actually...
The showrunner, casting director and writing room ruined this show. Shame, I kinda liked S1
I liked Anya as Yen.
>specifically described in the book as the most majestic and beautiful creature anyone there ever witnessed
How do you do fellow book readers?
Anya is beautiful to me but yeah she wasn't the right fit for Yennefer
man the show really fricking butchered this story, like all the others in S1 were a mixed bag in terms of execution but they went out of their way to frick this one in particular for some reason
I'm talking about the "Golden Dragon," not your poo actress.
>dwarves are cast as literal midgets
>gigachad paladin Eyck of Denesle that is equal to Geralt in monster hunting dies from being a complete moron and eating rotten flesh
>Tea and Vea are not exotic and rare strangers from a land far away because half of Temeria is black anyway
>the golden dragon looks like moronic chicken with gold pain thrown on it
>its not even a real dragon, only has 2 legs
this episode was beyond shit. actually insultingly bad
Netflix is desperate for some franchise they could milk, they lack the legacy franchises other channels have in their catalogues, so shitting the bad with Wither, that is not just the story, but a world you can milk with spin offs and all that is so stupid. Watch them go all in with Rebel Moon and yet again frick it up.
I love barn owls.
Who the frick is this supposed to be?
Get fricked.
Not with that shitty cast.
Dwarves as literal midgets is the dumbest thing ever. Ever.
did it?
the books suffer from some of the same issues of the show (like a unclear geography and worldbuilding)
No, it really didn't.
>netflix
>diverse writers room
>black actors
>female showrunner
Plus all adaptations are shit. They always say they'll StAy TRuE tO tHe SoUrCE MatErIaL but they always change tons of shit for little to no good reason.
it would've been amazing if the current world we live in wasn't shit
Never watched the witcher Should I?
No.
no
The series is a shit-show. Read the books or play the games instead.
this, ideally you read the books then play the games since the games are set after them
/thread
absolutely not. ciri actress is cute and cavill as witcher is like a dream come true for many but the plot and cast diversity is utter trash. frick, honestly you'd even excuse all the Black folk, chinks and brownoids all over the place if the plot wasn't that shit. absolute lunacy
I'm so glad Blood Origin happened. Not even the most braindead normies could continue pretending that this writer team wasn't a catastrophic disaster after that
oh, it's the same writers? didn't want to watch it after seeing the first couple of seconds from the trailer
Lauren Hissrich is the showrunner for the main show (and I reckon the whole IP at Netflix), but her right hand man Declan DeBarra was the lead writer for BO, she was also promoting the shit out of it everywhere
>story about oppressive space elves who conquered the universe, fricking with it so much that it ended up bringing creatures from different worlds onto one planet, and which will ultimately end the universe
nah the premise is too moronic
So did Star Wars prequels. So what.
nice bait
how to tell people you suck dicks without telling
>just...adapt thing faithfully
Why is it so hard?
because that means you're making someone else's creation come to life instead of your own. that's a career death sentence.
Can we return to bashing Netflix please? I'm getting second hand cringe attacks here
Only had Sapkowski to blame for being eternally assmad the games were a huge success, eclipsing his books regardless of them making the series known worldwide.
Not to mention declining the better offer when the devs gave him the opportunity for a % of profit.
He just wanted money, Netflix had the money to give.
to be fair, first game was horrible and had horrible fanfic level plot
after reading it, he didn't want to do anything with cd project
there was also horrible movie adaptation and tv show with female witchers
unironically you have shit taste if you thought the first game was horrible
I'd love to see some actual, serious, non-shit writers and showrunners adapt The Witcher 2's storyline from Letho's perspective
Iorveth's story is far more important considering that he disappeared in 3, and also the importance of elves in the Witcher universe. time travelling, dimension hopping space nazis.
My bad, I most likely just wanted you to shut the frick up considering western fevs suck at combat in RPGs in a world where DMC-lite RPGs like Dragon's Dogma exist.
>considering western devs suck at combat in RPG
Oh.
You're one of *those* people.
The "muh grorious nippon souls-like" mongs who think the way to improve any game is just 'make it more like Dark Souls'.
You really are moronic lel
no, dark souls has it's own style and identity as an action rpg series. can you name a single western RPG with combat as good and in-depth as Dragons Dogma?
>can you name a single western RPG with combat as good and in-depth as Dragons Dogma?
What does that have to do with the actual point of contention?
I said western rpg devs suck at combat, you disagreed so I'm challenging you to bring up western RPGs with good combat comparable to Dragon's Dogma. The Witcher 3 came close because CDPR even admitted they were trying to imitate Dark Souls.
>with good combat comparable to Dragon's Dogma.
Why does 'good' need to be measured against DD? Especially when we're talking about the state of the genre some 5 years before DD released, and when the first Witcher was going for something very different in style to what DD was aiming for
And that's all besides the fact that this is a game that's impossible to play, because any title I name you'll just dismiss offhand
>If you consider those RPGs
We are specifically talking about *action* RPGs, not 'pure' RPGs
>We are specifically talking about *action* RPGs, not 'pure' RPGs
Good, then you have no argument. Bloodborne, Nioh 2, Dark Souls and Dragona's Dogma shit all over the rest. there's no competition.
>have no argument
What 'argument' do you think you're having here?
I don't fricking know I'm drunk as hell
define an RPG
he thinks a role-playing videogame has to be based on a pen and paper rpg in order to qualify as an rpg, he has no clue what the frick he's going on about, not to mention his obvious weaboo fetish.
>Iorveth's story is far more important
it isn't
besides that, following Letho would naturally involve Iorveth and the Scoia-tael anyway
Never forget
Why this homie look like the shadow king from that legion show lmao
With israelites, you lose
TV writers are the most useless dysgenic hacks to ever exist along with diversity and inclusion policies. The tv writers can't cope having to work from source material by someone with 1000x more soul and skill than them. So they try to spin it their way or write their own story undermining this entire world.
Feminism destroyed peak kino
Season 1 was 10/10 despite book differences. It went downhill fast with season 2
>Season 1 was 10/10 despite book differences.
Lmao
>Mousesack dying for no reason and getting replaced by a doppler
>Foltest is a sloppy fat frick
>Aretuza students turned into eels
>whatever the frick was going on with Fringilla and Cahir
>Eyck, dwarves, a hundred other things