>it ends just like The Whale where you don't know if the character whether lived or died after a great climatic moment
Not bad. I just didn't like the drama with his daughter. I think it didn't work out pretty well. Also, the prostitute that became a romantic interest, Marisa Tomei, I'd frick her so hard and cum in her so many times that she'd have to wrestle me to get me off her. What an absolute mommy.
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there are a bunch of similarities to The Whale. The Wrestler is just done way better.
Honestly you could say Black Swan has a similar ending to both too
Yeah, also I can relate more to Ram because he is not an obese homosexual.
>there are a bunch of similarities to The Whale.
Marisa Tomei is played by 2 large deluxe pizzas in "The Whale"
homie the whale died
It's a fricking work brother, I ain't doing the job for no one not even dr.d. Now tell me what do you want?
I liked when he was getting into a groove on his first day and started frickin around with all the customers
>what can i get ya spring chicken
Me too. That one dude had to ruin it.
Yeah, his natural sense of showmanship was really helping him there. It's a nice touch that someone who knew how to play the crowd would do well in that environment.
HEY RAM YOU SUCK!
*tosses brick through front window*
Why didn’t he just lie and say “yeah, volleyball. That’s where you know me from” and walk away?
He got worked into a shoot.
because there was no lie to tell at that point and he couldn't walk away.
The guy kept setting him up where he could lie though. Kept suggesting stuff like “you in the union? You play volleyball? You go to xyz?”
Because he was a ding ding diddily dimeless shitter working bingo halls and couldn't even draw those so he had to work the counter since he bumped himself into sawdust and couldn't do construction.
For
>"Hey Ramalam! I need half a pound of roast beef, half pound havartti, and some life advice. I got this 16 year old coworker giving me all the signals. She even bought me a birthday present (I'm 38). So Ram, you think I should frick her? Isn't that, you know, against the law?"
In what scenario does a 38yo man have a 16yo coworker? Wtf?
Restaurants.
>Listen babyface, let's run a dark match right now: I'm the 16-year old green and you're up to do the mic work. Whaddaya say into the stick to make this into a main match?
I look like that
I remember Bret Hart shit on this movie a bit for “making it seem like anyone could be a wrestler” and further enforcing stereotypes of people in the business. It honestly sounded like he never even watched it
Who give s a frick that wet the shitman fart says?
Didn’t Goldberg finally tell him to shut the frick up about this? Like he said he’s done apologizing and Hart just is relentless
Goldberg is too busy doing his boomer car garage thing on israelitetube so probably not.
He sometimes does a match for $1 million in Saudi Arabia
Bret comes off as so incredibly bitter in every interview he's done after retiring
Sort of.
I hate bret but holy shit goldberg is such a self mark moron. Jericho rolled him up backstage and he couldn't break out until security showed up. Bret and plenty of other people have said it before, goldberg can't wrestle for shit and is incredibly unprofessional.
>Jericho rolled him up
what's that? a lot of wrestling moves are probably tough to get out of if you're doing it for real on someone
Jericho learned how to wrestle from stu hart who trained a lot of guys that came out of canada. Stu knew actual wrestling moves like you would see in the olympics that would put the hurt on someone.
you wrestling gays are the worst. it's not a sport. it doesn't even look like any style of real wrestling. there's no "control" moves that are anywhere close to realistic. if you want to pin someone you don't grab their leg, you isolate their arms (go watch real wrestling matches). you gays are unbearable
Ya seethe? Ya bubblin?
>it's not a sport.
It's story telling and performance art, you fricking moron. It was among the greatest forms of live entertainment ever created.
it's athletic so it's a sport
Many wrestlers had experience with legit wrestling.
Shut your mouth brother
Bret really thinks he's tough shit for being very technicaly sound at pretend fighting. If he was really that good, he should have just tried becoming an actual fighter
>caring what a professional jobber thinks
Andrew Anderson had a really good cameo in this movie.
>UHHHH TOO MUCH DRAMA EEEURRRGHHH I WANNA CUM
Very worthwhile review
learn to read, fricktard. I didn't like the drama with the daughter, albeit it wasn't necessarily bad. It had great moments but I am just not wired to enjoy chad father and lesbian daughter drama with a Black person female, at least not yet.
It would have been better if she wasn't lesbian and had a Black person girlfriend.
durrrrr eeerrghhhh oooaaaahh *splooges on your post*
God damn there are some seething morons in here, holy shit
>It would have been better if she wasn't lesbian and had a Black person girlfriend.
Aranofsky is a hack and has one ending.
The Wrestler is good but in an unintended way like Starship Troopers. I've had enough of the bankers to be honest.
Another thing I loved about the movie was Bruce Springsteen composing the credits emotional song. the ost of the movie is kino as frick, Quiet Riot, Accept, etc.
The 90s sucked
*The 90s fricking sucked
Also, something something Kurt Cobain was a pussy.
Neither ending is ambiguous in the slightest.
Marisa Tomei was still too hot to play a stripper nobody likes
everyone liked her though
All of the customers were telling her to kick rocks, some being very rude about it
I’m surprised that Robin randomly asked a young kid to play Nintendo with him. Wouldn’t the other kids think that’s weird?
not in a trailer park
It wasn't randomly. It was their thing. You get the impression that all of the kids have played Nintendo with him at some point. He's the cool uncle type in the park. They all fricking woke him up to come out and play, ffs. Watch it again.
I literally just watched it. Robin specifically asked that kid when he was playing with kids already. One on one is different than multiple kids. Just surprised since parents are usually so paranoid nowadays
not in trailer parks
LOL, fine, stay hung up on some little detail you thought was out of place. Let it distract from the enjoyment.
True story: I was watching this with a buddy and his c**ty, vapid girlfriend, and she somehow got the idea that Randy didn't shower after a wrestling match, and she kept commenting that he must stink so much. It was absolutely moronic. We both told her that just because they didn't have a showering scene, we shouldn't assume that he didn't, and even so, why the frick are you interrupting the movie to point out such stupid shit? Thank god they broke up. She was such an idiot.
You're overthinking how much I'm hung up about it. This is one of my favorite movies. Isn't the board for autistically discussing little details?
Anyway, I felt bad for Robin there because obviously he was just lonely and even the kid was getting bored as shit with the games.
Jesus Christ. It was a scene meant to reinforce that Ram was stuck in the past. You know, the ENTIRE theme of the film? Thats why he is still playing an old MES game while the kid talks about COD
There is zero ambiguity about either ending. They both die, moron.
The Ram was awesome, bros. After I saw this kino I moved out of my house and started cycling gear and pumping iron and I'm gonna try out for an indy fed!
I thought it was hilarious that the guy that sold him roids got busted a week after the movie was released for selling roids
first watched this in 08 as an 8th grader. I got it. but now over a decade later I REALLY get it. Man Rourke should've won.
Yeah, Penn's Harvey Milk is barely remembered. Rourke was so fricking good in this
Dan White did nothing wrong
It was pretty obvious he was at the end of his rope, there's nowhere else he could be and so he decides to die in the ring.
Would you turn down Marisa Tomei telling you she was ready to start a relationship?
le man's legacy
also I was into marisa tomei since wild hogs - I'd put it all behind me if I weren't this character who was a major frick up
Since Wild Hogs? LOL
You're aware she's from the 80s, right?
you're aware she was hot in wild hogs, right
>Would you turn down Marisa Tomei telling you she was ready to start a relationship?
single mother
prostitute
stripper
drug addict
if you thought she was some heart of gold gonna turn my life around roastie
> you have no experience with women
once Ram died
she started escorting
(i should say, 'she continued escorting')
this movie blows the frick out of The Whale.
The Whale is a way more emotional and has a redemption with family theme.
I'd say The Wrestler was way more emotional that The Whale. and does he really redeem himself to a daughter that seemed to contemplate murdering him at some point? All he did was stand up and die in front of her. He got closure, but Rourke also did with his fans
Family comes first. The Whale saved his daughter from becoming a lesbian Black person lover. The Wrestles did not.
How edgy and racist. White Power! White Strength!
The whale saved his daughter by solving the emotional conflict that would have persisted as trauma if he didn't reconcile with her, preventing her daughter from having personality disorders and making bad decisions because of daddy issues, therefore saving her from being a prostitute and a Black person lover. These are facts. The Wrestler decided to be a frick up and embrace it, the good and the bad side of it.
>The whale saved his daughter
lol....no, he didn't
NO ONE was redeemed in the whale.
if you look at every single character in the movie, even the delivery driver, they are all pieces of shit
> the only consistent character full of love and hope was the 2 large supreme pizzas
Neither of these movies are political. They are Character studies you fricking brainlet zoom zoom
who said anything about politics, you moron?
You are the one seeing politics in that post.
You are the one seething about the lesbian daughter with a negress GF.
is there something wrong about not liking drama scenes that involve a lesbian Black person?
I'm a man, I don't like Black person homosexualtry. The rest of the movie is great.
Absolute zoom zoom
>The Whale saved his daughter from becoming a lesbian Black person lover.
we don't know that
>you don't know if the character whether lived or died
you weren't paying attention
THEY SERVED IT UP TO YOU IN CRAYON
> wrestles with 'job' = loses
> wrestles with 'love interest' = loses
> wrestles with daughter = loses
guess what happens at the end?
what? he's whole life was going down hill but in the ring he was a winner, he won the matches.
>he won the matches.
bruddah
in life, you don't win matches
you survive them, bruddah
who's that monster
>who's that monster
you can't be this moronic
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Nothing about Whale's ending is even remotely ambiguous. You need a death card or something?
Nothing about this movie is ambiguous. Its clear he dies in the ring. Just like Black Swan has her die after her performance in a fade to white. Its an aronofsky staple
>he dies bro you just don't see it but he dies
nah you're led to believe that he dies in the ring at that last moment but you can still hold onto disbelief because there's an element of uncertainty in the ending by not showing what happens that makes it kino. You will never know for sure if he died at that moment.
>You will never know for sure if he died at that moment.
he didn't die right away. They explained this in the DVD commentary. His exertion caused a massive hematoma rupture tearing his heart open. He lasted another 7.5 minutes after Ram Jamming the Ayatollah. Robin lay on the mat, his ears ringing, the left side of his body in paralysis. He rolled over to his back, stunned, blood pouring out of his nose and mouth and eventually his eyes. He was in complete shock. Griped with terror he cried and whimpered like a helpless baby, but there was nothing anyone could do. Audience members were horrified at the gruesome scene. Such agony. Marisa Tomei was show distraught she got drunk and blew the promoter who would eventually get her strung out on heroin when she sold her 10 year old boy's butthole out to a group of pedophiles
Gotta be honest, this is one of my favorite movies. Touching all the way, and excellently told tragedy of a good man whose mistakes keep piling up and end up defeating him.
>where you don't know if the character whether lived or died after a great climatic moment
You're not very smart, are you?
The movie doesnt even work if he didnt die in the end.
Thats beside the fact its established if he exerts himself he will die, and hes having bad symptoms the entire fight. His GF leaves because she doesnt want to watch him die, he goes it in one last blaze of glory.
>bro he dies despite Darren not making it explicit that he dies
Lol you will never prove that Ram dies in the ring, that's the beauty of it. The story is going there for emotion but it never concretely shows it.
Are you literally underaged?
You must be really low iq not to see nuance.
I don't care if she's like 60. I want Marisa Tomei to sit on my face.
she actually looks hotter as a mature old lady
Shes a fox as a milf, but youre a tardo if you dont realize My Cousin Vinny Marisa is prime cooz
She has those prime genes that make her hot af even as a grandma.
>I just didn't like the drama with his daughter
but that's the whole plot anon, are you moronic by any chance?
People thinks the whale ending is ambiguous?
>People thinks the whale ending is ambiguous?
people buy the whole "gay lover" background story.
its all a fantasy in his head. Everything that happens after his pizza binges are lucid dreams during a diabetic coma.
>Knock knock
>Ryan Mar, Mike Morris, and Jimmy Graham
No Aunt May naked? You've changed Cinemaphile, you've changed.
one of my favorite films. if someone has a recommendation for a movie with similar themes (burning passion, struggling man etc) i'd love to hear em
All 3 Aronofsky character movies
Warrior.
Rush
TT3D documentary (even better since its actually real and people die every year).